Hunter
May 3 2007, 04:06 AM
Great comic, had more story than humour this time around. I loved the last line, "Your aspiration is to be impaled on a halberd? Your parents must be proud."
But leave it to me to get the date wrong even though it was the 2nd for me when it was posted.
Felstorm
May 3 2007, 04:11 AM
Yeah, I started a topic on that tavor in the last panel, just didn't look right to me for some reason.
Not my fault, it's in my nature to be inquisitive and to observe everything in extreme detail ;p
Anyways I'm off to bed, got college tomorrow...Multimedia Logistics and then work
Lizard Lord
May 3 2007, 05:16 AM
QUOTE (Felstorm @ May 2 2007, 11:11 PM)

Yeah, I started a topic on that tavor in the last panel, just didn't look right to me for some reason.
Not my fault, it's in my nature to be inquisitive and to observe everything in extreme detail ;p
Anyways I'm off to bed, got college tomorrow...Multimedia Logistics and then work

IMO, he didn't look right because he didn't feel right. He facial expression was darker, and I have a feeling the tone of his voice would have been darker as well. This could be a turning point for his character(rather soon since he was almost just introduced, but whatever), it could be a single moment of doubt, or I could be reading to much into it. Who knows?
Rae-Rae =^.^=
May 3 2007, 05:59 AM
Tavor not being his completely sarcastic self is a nice change of pace. It doesn't make him appear so apathetic towards the outcome of the battle... I kinda had that impression for a while.
The darkened expression was gorgeous. Congrats for another wonderful page!
Zrem
May 3 2007, 08:54 AM
Yes, more story!
He catacombs will preserve her eh? Indeed, it just might.
That helps things a little.
And we're getting back to Kethenecia. Things are connecting.
Its a lovely feeling.
TSBasilisk
May 3 2007, 10:06 AM
We may finally know where Cale came from; he could be a descendant of the wetland survivors.
Xeth'Lir
May 3 2007, 02:00 PM
QUOTE (TSBasilisk @ May 3 2007, 12:06 PM)

We may finally know where Cale came from; he could be a descendant of the wetland survivors.
wait wait, they went to wetlands? THE Wetlands? The place were you usually go to from Loch Modan?
Lunaya
May 3 2007, 02:03 PM
The wetlands refers to an ecosystem. The Wetlands in WoW just happen to have a pretty unoriginal name.
Ghislord
May 3 2007, 02:03 PM
Oh gods... I feel another "This isn't WoW" debate coming.
It's not because it's called a wetland that it's THE wetland from WoW. A wetland is a type of land that is apparent to bogs and marshes. The wetland could be called Duckberg for all we know. So, no, I don't think they're talking about that particular wetland because this isn't WoW... it's losely based on it and on many other worlds/stories but it's not WoW.
EDIT : Yup, what s/he said.
Lunaya
May 3 2007, 02:05 PM
I'm interested to learn the significance of the Treeal shrines to the elven race. Specifically, does being cut off from the Shrine's magic kill the elves and maybe, turn them undead? I doubt it, but I thought I'd ask.
Richard Rules
May 3 2007, 02:35 PM
The last line Tavor says is very Richard esque, so I'm going with what Zrem said about the last thread in that Tavor is Richard.
Raya
May 3 2007, 04:07 PM
This page seems to say an awful lot about Cale's morals. When he kills (generally by accident) an innocent, he's completely torn up about it and horrified at himself, but when he's fighting something he sees as evil (or to protect somebody), he's hacking away as gleefully as Richard. Well, maybe not gleefully, but you get my meaning. Look at his expression in the first panel.
So if Cale has no qualms about killing evil people, should be interesting when he meets people in a very grey area...
Lizard Lord
May 3 2007, 05:24 PM
QUOTE (Raya @ May 3 2007, 11:07 AM)

This page seems to say an awful lot about Cale's morals. When he kills (generally by accident) an innocent, he's completely torn up about it and horrified at himself, but when he's fighting something he sees as evil (or to protect somebody), he's hacking away as gleefully as Richard. Well, maybe not gleefully, but you get my meaning. Look at his expression in the first panel.
So if Cale has no qualms about killing evil people, should be interesting when he meets people in a very grey area...
Cael didn't have a happy look on him in this panel. He was gritting his teeth in anger or frustration. He wasn't smiling. If you are talking about the one before this, he was just happy to see that his people weren't always evil.
Zrem
May 3 2007, 11:46 PM
QUOTE (Raya @ May 3 2007, 09:07 AM)

So if Cale has no qualms about killing evil people, should be interesting when he meets people in a very grey area...
He has met grey area people.
Krunch.
Krunch does what ever he needs to survive. Nothing good or evil, just survival.
And Cale's reaction? It seems like Cale gets along with Krunch better than Benny or Richard. Definatly better than Richard.
iloverichard
May 4 2007, 12:03 AM
great comic, once again!
so we now know why Leena is "immortal" and took Cale back in time... bnut if she was taken to the catacombs, why did she end up in the same castle where she actually met Cale, Benny, Krunch, and Richard for the first time? sounds kinda weird to me... but either way, it gives lots of insight about Kenthenicia and the Valii.
although we haven't heard of the Sword of Truth in a while... maybe this monday!
Hunter
May 4 2007, 12:05 AM
I'm figuring on at least a week monday since we need to have Cale get to the city and convince them to fight the Valii and help him locate the Angry Sword.
iloverichard
May 4 2007, 12:13 AM
maybe they could fit it all in one strip

that would be keul if they actually went through the portal back in the future and met Richard

no, Richard should go through the portal and join Cale and defeat the Valii!! he would pwn them sooo badly lol
Hunter
May 4 2007, 12:16 AM
Why would Richard destroy a nation of evil Elves? Then he couldn't tell Cale that he was evil when they met and then they wouldn't become friends and the comic would not exist.
iloverichard
May 4 2007, 12:21 AM
because what if Richard was actually NOT an elf (not Tavor, that is), and did not care about anyone but himself?
besides, he killed a whole bunch of evil orcs and trolls, so ha.
Hunter
May 4 2007, 12:23 AM
Richard will kill anyone, but making his jokes at Cale wrong, I doubt he would do that.
iloverichard
May 4 2007, 12:25 AM
weeeellllllll........
he would still kill a nation of evil elves just to save Cale so he could continue making fun of him
Hunter
May 4 2007, 12:31 AM
No I'm sure it would ruin the time line, if there were good elves Richard would take the time to harass Cale he would simply have turned him into ash then probably poured water on them making it impossible to be healed. But since Richard and Cale would have to go back in time to make it happen but since they didn't that time line wouldn't exist at all either, in fact most likely everything would not exist including the universe.
iloverichard
May 4 2007, 12:33 AM
but what if Tavor was not Richard

it really doesn't matter anyway

if he helps or not, we all know what happens.. even Cale knows
Hunter
May 4 2007, 12:36 AM
I think it was just that Cale knew how boned they were going to end up.
iloverichard
May 4 2007, 12:39 AM
after all, Richard told him how evil the BE's are anyway, and Cale was kinda shy about it

BUT STILL!!! i wonder if the catacombs have to with the old castle Richard and the gang are in ???
Hunter
May 4 2007, 12:43 AM
I as well am really curious about the catacombs, and the wetlands that the other elves are hiding in.
iloverichard
May 4 2007, 12:46 AM
or (i know, i know.. but just please ignore the fact that i am about to say something WoW related k? lol) it could be like a Theramore Island type of place... that would be perfect for the elves
Hunter
May 4 2007, 12:49 AM
I don't play wow but I guess its a distant place that is hard to get to that if filled with supplies.
iloverichard
May 4 2007, 12:51 AM
yes, it is located in a place called The Wetlands, and it is kinda like a refuge place with boats and lots of supplies and even a flight point

but i really think it could be Theramore... that would seriously be perfect for like a hide-out or something
Lunaya
May 4 2007, 12:56 AM
QUOTE (iloverichard @ May 3 2007, 06:39 PM)

BUT STILL!!! i wonder if the catacombs have to with the old castle Richard and the gang are in ???

Guys, the castle of Gamlon
is the castle that Cale, Richard and the rest were staying in. Sooo, the catacombs where Leena is going to hide are located in the same place. That's why she's still haunting it.
TSBasilisk
May 4 2007, 01:35 AM
Indeed, I'm often surprised by these three things concerning Cale's little adventure.
1.) People not realizing he's in the past, even though the girl said he was going to the past.
2.) People not realizing the castle's the same one, even though they have the same layout and appearance.
3.) People not realizing BOTH of these.
Richard Rules
May 4 2007, 02:13 AM
I think the little girl is still alive, because the King says something along the lines of "Tavor, take Leena to the catacombs, they will perserve her." So i think the elves natural longevity coupled with the magics of the catacombs keep her the same age as she was when she was hidden there.
Hunter
May 4 2007, 03:09 AM
QUOTE (TSBasilisk @ May 3 2007, 06:35 PM)

Indeed, I'm often surprised by these three things concerning Cale's little adventure.
1.) People not realizing he's in the past, even though the girl said he was going to the past.
2.) People not realizing the castle's the same one, even though they have the same layout and appearance.
3.) People not realizing BOTH of these.
Well I was accused of this today but I know I understand these facts.
Rae-Rae =^.^=
May 4 2007, 05:00 AM
Likewise... but the citizens of the western world have a tendancy to pay more attention to random acts of stupidity than when anybody does something decent.
Lunaya
May 4 2007, 05:29 AM

I wasn't trying to be mean or make anyone feel dumb. Anyone can tell you I've said plenty of air-headed things in my lifetime. I was just trying to point out a fact.
Zrem
May 4 2007, 06:31 AM
QUOTE (iloverichard @ May 3 2007, 05:51 PM)

yes, it is located in a place called The Wetlands
Pssst. Theramore Island is actually in Dustwallow Marsh, the complete other continent from the Wetlands.
I'm Horde and I know this.
Enough WoW!
I do believe the catacombs are simply underneath the castle. And probably a good place to hide.
I mean, if you were to attack a fortress and capture it, would you turn to your men and say "Lets raid where they bury thier dead!"
Ghislord
May 4 2007, 12:48 PM
Guys, back on trak. We've started a real derailment here and there's still 2 and a half days till the next comic is up.
And, please, be courteous towards each other.
G!
Jimmy
May 4 2007, 02:11 PM
QUOTE (Zrem @ May 4 2007, 01:31 AM)

I do believe the catacombs are simply underneath the castle. And probably a good place to hide.
I mean, if you were to attack a fortress and capture it, would you turn to your men and say "Lets raid where they bury thier dead!"
If I really hated them and wanted to desecrate their dead, sure. Or if I thought they'd buried their treasure with their dead... it's not all that far fetched.
Oh, and just because he said the magics would "preserve" her, that doesn't mean she's still alive. They seem to have preserved her spirit, maybe that's all he meant.
Zeet
May 4 2007, 02:26 PM
Seems to me that Cale is killing with hate in his heart,

look at his face and tell me he isnt pissed..
of course he could just be being serious and trying to survive.. but his swords have blood..
iloverichard
May 5 2007, 01:22 AM
QUOTE (Zrem @ May 3 2007, 11:31 PM)

Pssst. Theramore Island is actually in Dustwallow Marsh, the complete other continent from the Wetlands.
I'm Horde and I know this.
oops! that's right lol.. i knew it was in a marsh somewhere...

anyway, back on topic... if the castle IS the catacombs, then why did the king tell Tavor to take Leena there? wouldn't she already BE there? besides, she could have traveled back to the castle place and stayed there forever or whatever. dunno where it could be tho
Richard Rules
May 5 2007, 02:02 AM
the catacombs are UNDER the castle, not the castle itself. Silly
Lunaya
May 5 2007, 02:19 AM
The king was basically telling Tavor to take the kid downstairs, where she is still "preserved" today.
Rae-Rae =^.^=
May 5 2007, 05:02 AM
... in spirit form though.
However, Leena's current existence is explained, but what about the Shriek's? People have been neglecting her lately, and she's just as mysterious.
iloverichard
May 5 2007, 06:33 AM
the Shriek is probably Leena's mother, but she most likely died a long time ago giving birth to her becasue of her age, and just haunted the castle...
well, that's just my theory
Hunter
May 5 2007, 06:48 AM
well if she is a protector I'm thinking she would a spirit of the catacombs to take care of the bodies down there.
Lunaya
May 5 2007, 07:48 AM
Well, regardless of where the story goes from here, I for one, am having a lot of fun. I mean, when it comes to TV shows and comics, very few writers have ever been able to hold my interest with "episodes" that don't include my favorite character. Even though Richard is by far my favorite, I have to say that I'm really enjoying this time alone with Cale.
The story is so engaging that I am just as interested in watching it unfold as I am in seeing what my favorite warlock is going to do or say this week. I find myself wanting to know more about the other characters. I just think it says a lot about Sohmer as a writer and Lar as an artist. I am always excited to see what will happen next.
lunytoon deal with it
May 6 2007, 12:04 PM
well the ghost could be the protector of the secrets cept within the citys walls
iloverichard
May 6 2007, 09:10 PM
could be a protector or just a ghost introducing Leena to immortality.. either way, i agree with Lunaya that whatever happens next will be fun

i can't wait to see either!!!
lunytoon deal with it
May 9 2007, 06:37 PM
i cant wait eather

sadly i hope richard gets incinerated soon...... BIG CHANGE XD
iloverichard
May 10 2007, 12:20 AM
what?
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