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Captain
ZOMG! New Comic! Assassinating!
Lunaya
Hehe. I'm guessing Richard got his "fwoosh" back. tongue.gif
Captain
If by "Richard" you mean "Gnomes with trebuchet" then sure, I guess.
Rae-Rae =^.^=
Or a catapult with burning piles or trash...

What IS the difference between a trebuchet and a catapult anyways?
Captain
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What IS the difference between a trebuchet and a catapult anyways?


Holy Crap!

I never thought mandatory 9th grade history would ever be useful, and here we go.

A catapult uses a spring - best described as a rubber band with a spoon. A Trebuchet, in addition to being the medieval equivalent of a big fuckoff gun, and being a lot of fun to say, uses all those wacky laws of gravity, momentum, and inertia to swing a big ol' phallic thingy around in a circle and lob rocks at the enemies to cause bruises, sometimes they use barrels and whatnot filled with "greek fire" or what have you, to cause explodey orgasms of death.
Rae-Rae =^.^=
9th grade history was all American history where I went... and then they put me in another frshman class because my history classes were all mixed around compared to my new school's...

But basically, the objective is to launch bludgeons really long distances with the intent of destroying shit, both using the laws of physics. Yay for parabolic vertical movements!
Captain
More or less - the only real important difference is that a Catapult is comparable to an eight year old trying to throw a stone like a limp wristed poof, and a trebuchet is an Australian fast bowler.
Franz
So much for conceived notions of chivalry.
Lunaya
*sigh* I guess it was just wishful thinking. I mean, when you see fireballs reducing people to ash, who do you think of?
Rae-Rae =^.^=
I think of them landing on bunnies...
soylent_greentastic
QUOTE (Captain @ Mar 19 2007, 12:39 AM) *
More or less - the only real important difference is that a Catapult is comparable to an eight year old trying to throw a stone like a limp wristed poof, and a trebuchet is an Australian fast bowler.


But I always thought trebuchets were more effective...
Rae-Rae =^.^=
Holy crap, Toasty, when the hell did you come back onto a compy!? I haven't seen you in forever...

Am I the only one who thinks this? I might just be convinced to see a shrink about my memory lapse.
TSBasilisk
Trebuchets may fire a greater distance and may launch more, but they are also far more difficult to build, move, maintain, aim, and fire. They're mainly intended for besieging castles and cities, as their size and lack of mobility makes them easy targets.

Catapults are smaller, simpler, and easier to transport, giving them some use as an offensive weapon outside of sieges.
Cyborg
Yeah so it's kinda like

M60 - pretty powerfull and still mobile

vs.

Big Berta - EXTREMELY powerfull but not very mobile
Bjarki Dalsgarð
In The Lord of the Rings - Return of the King

At the siege of Minas Thirith, the orcs use catapults, and the gondorians use trebuchets.

If you haven't seen the film, then you are not worthy to read this
Captain
QUOTE
In The Lord of the Rings - Return of the King

At the siege of Minas Thirith, the orcs use catapults, and the gondorians use trebuchets.

If you haven't seen the film, then you are not worthy to read this



I was pretty damned tempted to use that example, but I wasn't sure if everyone else watch the LotR Trilogy every night in lieu of sleep.
Cyborg
Heh yeah but it doesn't really give any info on the differences except that the orcs are stupid for not building trebuchets... ;P
Kraus
Well, I sure didn't see that one coming. That kind of... came quick.

Interesting turn of events, really, but I would've liked to know why all this happened just when it did. I'm getting a bit exhausted here.

Krunch was bloody cool anyways. wink.gif
Lunaya
Yeah, I got a little confused by this one to be perfectly honest...Or maybe I'm just that slow unsure.gif I just couldn't figure out how much time had passed between this issue and the last one. How did Krunch have enough time to rally the gnomes for an assault on the troll camp? And if the assault was planned beforehand, why wouldn't Krunch have mentioned it to Cale?

Sooo tired....must.stop.rambling.
IMB111
Catapult:


Trebuchet:



Krunch is btw very "effective" blink.gif
Teleros
QUOTE (Captain @ Mar 19 2007, 04:22 AM) *
If by "Richard" you mean "Gnomes with trebuchet" then sure, I guess.

I'm still hoping its a certain warlock tongue.gif . I mean seriously, how long do you think they could keep him locked up for wink.gif ?
Ghislord
QUOTE (Lunaya @ Mar 19 2007, 07:03 AM) *
Yeah, I got a little confused by this one to be perfectly honest...Or maybe I'm just that slow unsure.gif I just couldn't figure out how much time had passed between this issue and the last one. How did Krunch have enough time to rally the gnomes for an assault on the troll camp? And if the assault was planned beforehand, why wouldn't Krunch have mentioned it to Cale?

Sooo tired....must.stop.rambling.

I don't think he actually did anything. He just saw a situation that changed and he used it to his advantage. Krunch is the brains here, fighting with his head as best as he can, using situations to his advantage. It's what gives him an edge.
TheGayHare
QUOTE (TSBasilisk @ Mar 19 2007, 06:18 AM) *
Trebuchets may fire a greater distance and may launch more, but they are also far more difficult to build, move, maintain, aim, and fire. They're mainly intended for besieging castles and cities, as their size and lack of mobility makes them easy targets.

Catapults are smaller, simpler, and easier to transport, giving them some use as an offensive weapon outside of sieges.



I saw recently that the chinese had a type of Trebuchet that was much lighter, far more mobile and easier to aim. Course it didn't have the power of the big ones.
BunnyBones
While I appreciate the trebuchet / catapault method, I had to laugh at Cale, ready to defend Krunch's back with the most fearsome weapon of all... the dual Karate Chop.

Good luck, Cale.
Stukov
QUOTE (Teleros @ Mar 19 2007, 06:23 AM) *
I'm still hoping its a certain warlock tongue.gif . I mean seriously, how long do you think they could keep him locked up for wink.gif ?



I felt the need to register here and add my thoughts. The idea that it is Richard seems likely. I mean, that eliminates any need to explain how Krunch would've gotten the gnomes to attack. And hey, a warlock throwing flaming rocks? Thats not too far fetched, now is it?
Lunaya
Yeah, I was just wondering how Krunch was expecting a signal from anybody. It all happened so fast. But I agree, Krunch is very good at thinking on his feet.

(And I'm still holding on to the notion that the fire came from Richard and that the gnome assault was just a ruse wink.gif )
Nocton
Okey so were the meteors / fireballs / trebuchet-thrusted projectiles a plan all along? Apparently it was so. I sincerely don't want it to be Richard.

And I don't want it to be Richard because that means we've missed part of the story. Unless we do a freeze frame cliffhanger and actually go back in time to see how Benny and Richard managed themselves out of the Pit of Despair. I certainly don't want them "rescued" - I want Richard to free himself, dammit.

On the other hand, if it turns out to be the gnomes... Our heroes will have to be rescued - they should be able to hold their own.

Call Sooba already, Cale!

And I'm dying to see what Sohmer is cooking for the Pit of Despair. Are we going to get to see it ever? I mean Krunch is really a smart and even ruthless tactician, but this Richard-less diet is giving me the shakes. Bring on the warlock and let's have some good old mayhem laugh.gif
Lartist
*cough*Thursday*cough*
Felstorm
I've got a hunch thinking Krunch really isn't the son of the bloodrage lineage, and used it as a cover. Also, I'm guessing we'll either recieve a few comics of what richard and benny have been up to or they just meet up with the party (and/or rez fitch if they feel like it).

Oh, and the 5th member is TIM! ;p
New Reno
Thanks Lar, take care of that cough, we want you in top shape you know...
Phoenix Talion
QUOTE (Felstorm @ Mar 19 2007, 07:27 PM) *
I've got a hunch thinking Krunch really isn't the son of the bloodrage lineage, and used it as a cover.


Huh. That's a good thought actually. Krunch's ambigious response to the "warrior or scholar" question could have been because he thought the troll was trying to catch him in a lie.
Traith
QUOTE (Felstorm @ Mar 19 2007, 07:27 PM) *
I've got a hunch thinking Krunch really isn't the son of the bloodrage lineage, and used it as a cover. Also, I'm guessing we'll either recieve a few comics of what richard and benny have been up to or they just meet up with the party (and/or rez fitch if they feel like it).

Oh, and the 5th member is TIM! ;p



I was hoping to post that!!! He is named and featured in at least two strips.. My vote is Tim!



Missing Richard... I hope we find out the he and Benny have been up to lots of no-goodery




"You can do anything in a cartoon!"
Rae-Rae =^.^=
Wait, now the theory is that Krunch really is neither the scholar nor the warrior? I can't keep up with this right before beddy-bye time.... >.> <.< Although it is pretty interesting how all of this seems to be going fairly well considering their situation. It does give the hintings of a plan that Cale was left out of. Although, a whole strip or two devoted to a flashback would be kinda frustrating...
BunnyBones
Of course Cale would have been left out of any plan involving subterfuge and trickery... he is a bit of a boob when it comes to seeing beyond the end of his nose and thinking ahead. The only way for him to appear clueless to any brilliant but sneaky plan is for him to actually be clueless with regard to that plan.

The day will come when everyone, even Tim, is part of the plan except for Cale. He is just too naive to deceitful.

...though I am still wondering if he can actually hold off the troll army with his dual Karate chop defence.
Felstorm
QUOTE (BunnyBones @ Mar 20 2007, 01:34 PM) *
Of course Cale would have been left out of any plan involving subterfuge and trickery... he is a bit of a boob when it comes to seeing beyond the end of his nose and thinking ahead. The only way for him to appear clueless to any brilliant but sneaky plan is for him to actually be clueless with regard to that plan.

The day will come when everyone, even Tim, is part of the plan except for Cale. He is just too naive to deceitful.

...though I am still wondering if he can actually hold off the troll army with his dual Karate chop defence.

The other idea is was fitch really killed or was that faked? Was there a plan made before they left to kill stoll? Also is our team even sided with the gnomes or they going to kill them as they did with stoll? I'm just throwing out questions for y'all to consider, because of the turn of events and the more I think about it the more questions I think of.
WalkingSaint
Finally gave up and registered. smile.gif

Krunch is awesome! I would, however, love to see some of Cale's competencies. He's obviously not a complete tool, just naive. I suspect that when it comes to killing things (rightfully) that he'd be just as effective as everyone else. He just doesn't like to do it unnecessarily.

Oh, I think Krunch is the warrior. Who says they're all brawn and no brains? I suspect his brother the scholar will be the suck-up in the family.

I look forward to the day that Cale's just jaded enough to know when to keep his mouth shut and does "the right thing" (not "the good thing") with a rueful look on his face.
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