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king raven
So, this is my latest short story, hope you like it.
Many thanks to Rayne for helping me, inadvertently, to dredge up the trauma that was the inspiration for this story. Any comments are welcome, so long as they're productive. One thing I don't need to know is that there are comma mistakes. I know, I don't see them all, but I know they're there. I've caught a few and fixed them, but I'm still working on the rest.

To sleep, perchance, to dream.


The man awoke in a field, a man, no, a boy rather, perhaps 16, maybe 19, not that it matters. After all, were we to ask his age, he wouldn't tell us, rather, he couldn't. Nor his name, so neither is that any concern of ours.

Where was he? Well that is a question that could be answered by the woman who approached him, but it€™s not
relevant to our tale. Who was he? Asked the woman, as she came nearer, but as we know, a question he could not answer.

Well, at the least I can tell you that he was in a peaceful place, as the woman kindly invited him to her home. Perhaps though, it was because of his apparent youth, who can really know the truth of the circumstances?

Suffice it to say that he was brought to her home and treated well by her family, her husband and their two sons. The next day, they promised him, they would bring him down to the police station. And so, that very next morning, there he was presented, and they did their best to identify him. It was sad to say though that none seemed to miss him.

There were no reports of a missing person, or any outstanding warrants for him of any sort. And so, apologies were made, luck was wished to him, and the man and the family departed, with the promise that a call would reach him should there be any news.

That night, the family made a decision. The man was well mannered, intelligent, his only flaw being his lack of memories, though that being no fault of his own so far as they could ascertain. And so, the man had a home, a family to hold him until such time as he should know again who he was.

A year passed and no word reached them of his identity. He had no hopes, he was happy with where he was. It was easy to make a life in this town. Nearly everyone was kind, with very few exceptions, and the man€™s highly personable nature made him difficult to dislike, so the number of his enemies was insignificant.

Soon after he settled into the town, he had work, despite his lack of identification or even age, as his personality and intelligence were more than enough to convince others that he was worthy of employment. Eventually, those with power in the town took notice of him and he was eventually sponsored to go to the local university and get a complete education. And it was there that he met her.

We'll never know exactly what she looked like, as memory, as we have now realized, is a fickle and tricky thing. What we can know for sure is that she possessed trued beauty, both in body and in mind.

A unique human, whose distinctions were likened to his own. There was no question of their feelings, even having never experienced it; both of them knew that nothing else could be called love.

For the man, college had been an incredible time already, but being together with her had changed the world for him entirely. Every day that he was able to see her was full of happiness for him, and mere days after they had graduated together, he proposed.

The wedding she'd always dreamed of, that was how she had described it to him on their wedding night. He didn't know exactly what he had dreamed, though he was sure it was something similar.

And now, we can move further into the future. Much further it would seem, as the man has lost much of his hair, and what remains is grayed, nearly white. He sits in an easy chair and smokes a pipe as he reflects on his life. Happiness and success have dogged his footsteps. His eldest son is in law school, his daughter is a musical prodigy, creating beautiful melodies, no matter the instrument. His youngest son is in the military, serving overseas in some war or another. Which one it is matters little to this tale as we come near to its end.

The man sits in his chair, his wife in the other room speaking to a friend on the telephone, and he realizes what the feeling is that he is experiencing. It is fulfillment; it is contentment. As he releases a long sigh of happiness, he is no longer alone. A man stands beside him.

A shock of white hair pressed under a black bowler hat, matching his black suit, run through with grey pinstripes. His shirt and tie are a deep, blood red, and a carnivorous grin splits his features. His teeth are unusually pointed the man notes, as the visitor opens his mouth and begins to speak.

"Have you enjoyed your life?" He asks, a hint of glee in his tone. The man answers in the affirmative, it has been everything he could have hoped for. He pauses for a moment before asking the question that weighs heavily on him. Is the visitor death perhaps? He asks. He doesn't wish to struggle, he's lived his life to the fullest and he regrets nothing, he simply wishes for a moment to kiss his wife goodbye and say he loves her. The visitor's grin widens at this and he appears to suppress laughter.

"Oh no," he says in reply, "I'm not death; at least, not in the sense that you might think. No, I'm simply here to tell you that it's ended. It's time for you to wake up."

A man sits upright in his bed, clutching at his heart. The pain is incredible, though not physical. The man collapses forward, sobbing into his hands. No matter how many times the dream came to him, the pain of it did not lessen. His happiness, snatched away from him in an instant. He'd lived a life of decades, had success, love, fulfillment, and it had been shattered in an instant.

He composed himself as best he could, showered, and dressed for work. Breakfast, he skipped. He had no appetite, though he never did in the mornings. He goes to work and sits in his cubicle, doing his menial tasks, each keystroke reminding him painfully of his dreams that haunt him each night, destroying him every morning.

A knock on his cubicle wall summons him to alertness, and his supervisor stands there with a dour look on his face. The man knows what is happening, he knows. He can see the envelope in his supervisor's hands. He takes it, tears streaming down his face, and he begins to put his things in order. Today would be his last day.

As he finishes his work for the last time, he walks out onto the street. He stares at the grey sky and sobs silently. Tonight again, he knew, he would be submitted to that torture. Tonight, and the next night. His happiness, within his grasp, and then shattered. He stopped at the convenience store down the street from his house and used what money he had with him to buy his dinner and restock his medicine cabinet.

His dinner has been eaten, his lack of appetite conquered by his body's natural hungry state. He sits on the bed and reads the label on the bottle in his hand. Sleeping pills, it says that they will provide a dreamless sleep. Carelessly, he tips one into his hand and swallows it without water.

He pauses for a moment, and then repeats the process. Twelve times he tips the bottle into his hand and swallows. With a small sigh, he lays down on his bed and stares at the ceiling, feeling his eyelids droop. As his eyes close for the last time, the visitor appears before him.

"Are you ready to begin?" he asks, cackling. The man smiles in triumph as the visitor's edges begin to blur. As the picture in his mind's eye fades to black, the smile stays on his features. As darkness fully encircles him, he breathes out a contented sigh and whispers his last words.

"To sleep, perchance, to dream."
Pariah II
So, Visitor is trying for "The Biggest Asshole in the Multiverse Award"? Why? This raises more questions, and does not answer many.
king raven
QUOTE (Pariah II @ Oct 24 2009, 01:23 AM) *
So, Visitor is trying for "The Biggest Asshole in the Multiverse Award"? Why? This raises more questions, and does not answer many.


Well, it wasn't really meant to give you insight into his reasons so much as his methods. Basically he does it for sport. It's fun for him.
Pariah II
.........And I know this guy? Okay, he is officially off the God Radar, and onto "Thee Listes offe Petie Anoyunnces".


I'm smiting the hell out of this RP. It's a Lovecraftian fate-worse-than-death for this one. And by that I mean I'm going to eat him.
Sal
Okay. First off Raven, I'm going to say that was fantasmic which saying that is a great honor for you, because fantasmic is an awesome composition... *ehem* but that aside...

I have a few problems with it.

1) I think you should describe the man a little more. Since he's the main character it would help just to know at tad more about him so we can relate more, but I understand that the beginning part, being the dream is a little more vague will not probably have that description. Maybe just something to think about.

2) Another thing that bothered me was how you switched from past tense to present tense to future tense a lot. I've gotten yelled at enough by my english teachers that I figure I should just pass on the word. Try to keep the same tense in the same paragraph or something...might be wrong though.

Things I really liked:

Tons. It was suspenseful, and the ending was chilling. I loved the use of the word 'perchance' because hardly anyone uses it nowadays... Now the Visitor...I like this guy. Well and hate him at the same time...but anyways...with this on my mind, I shall now go to sleep...hurray! laugh.gif
king raven
QUOTE (Sal @ Oct 24 2009, 02:15 AM) *
Okay. First off Raven, I'm going to say that was fantasmic which saying that is a great honor for you, because fantasmic is an awesome composition... *ehem* but that aside...

I have a few problems with it.

1) I think you should describe the man a little more. Since he's the main character it would help just to know at tad more about him so we can relate more, but I understand that the beginning part, being the dream is a little more vague will not probably have that description. Maybe just something to think about.

2) Another thing that bothered me was how you switched from past tense to present tense to future tense a lot. I've gotten yelled at enough by my english teachers that I figure I should just pass on the word. Try to keep the same tense in the same paragraph or something...might be wrong though.

Things I really liked:

Tons. It was suspenseful, and the ending was chilling. I loved the use of the word 'perchance' because hardly anyone uses it nowadays... Now the Visitor...I like this guy. Well and hate him at the same time...but anyways...with this on my mind, I shall now go to sleep...hurray! laugh.gif


Thanks Sal, I appreciate it. As for "the man" needing more details, to an extent I agree, but for the most part I disagree. He's not the main character, as a matter of fact, there really is no main character. If you want to go in terms of who the focus is on, then it's really The Visitor, since so little is known about him. He's a point of interest, a mystery that the reader can't solve. He's obviously behind the dreams and the man's spiral into ruin, so his presence is obvious.

Also, through the writing style, I've made implications that The Visitor is actually the narrator, being that he's the only one to speak, until the very end, and that only occurs after he leaves. I specifically avoided using dialogue in the other characters so that connection might be drawn by someone who thought along those lines.

As such, I feel that I provided adequate detail for the "main character." You might note that, like the dialogue, the only one who actually has a physical description is The Visitor.

As for your second point, I don't see any point at which I move to future, but I do note that I move between present and past very briefly in the final part of the story. That choppiness was an intentional, though perhaps pointless, way of helping the reader to understand that things are unravelling.

I do appreciate your comments, and I'm glad you enjoyed it otherwise.
Rayne
First off, I won't address your comma heavy lurve, but I will address this:

"And so, that very next morning, there he was presented, and they did their best to identify him. It was sad to say though that none seemed to miss him.[/indent]
There were no reports of a missing person, or any outstanding warrants for him of any sort."

Do you see what I see? The /indent? Yeah. *pokes*

Anyway, I liked the flow you had going. It's not something I've seen very often, and I doubt I've seen the exact use(s) before. I could probably pick out a few points where you shifted to something at least vaguely resembling future tense, but I don't really want to get nit picky. So I won't.

"Many thanks to Rayne for helping me, inadvertently, to dredge up the trauma that was the inspiration for this story."

Gee, that didn't come out oddly at all.

Moving on.

It was very narrator-focused, yes, but you pulled it off well. It added to the air. For the record, when it comes to setting a mood, almost nothing is pointless. Any one tiny change can potentially alter the tone drastically; whether or not this is for better or for worse all depends.

Lastly, it was very depressing and mind-screwy. So. Kudos.

8/10. I'd give you a seven, but I'm obsessive about good, quality tone, and you had that down pat (like, really down pat). I'm actually tempted to give you a nine... but I'm not feeling very generous today. If you fix that /indent issue, maybe.

Edit: I was too lazy to bother with actual quotes.

So shut up.
king raven
QUOTE (Rayne @ Oct 24 2009, 12:36 PM) *
First off, I won't address your comma heavy lurve, but I will address this:

"And so, that very next morning, there he was presented, and they did their best to identify him. It was sad to say though that none seemed to miss him.[/indent]
There were no reports of a missing person, or any outstanding warrants for him of any sort."

Do you see what I see? The /indent? Yeah. *pokes* Oops... fixed

Anyway, I liked the flow you had going. It's not something I've seen very often, and I doubt I've seen the exact use(s) before. I could probably pick out a few points where you shifted to something at least vaguely resembling future tense, but I don't really want to get nit picky. So I won't.

"Many thanks to Rayne for helping me, inadvertently, to dredge up the trauma that was the inspiration for this story."

Gee, that didn't come out oddly at all.

Moving on.

It was very narrator-focused, yes, but you pulled it off well. It added to the air. For the record, when it comes to setting a mood, almost nothing is pointless. Any one tiny change can potentially alter the tone drastically; whether or not this is for better or for worse all depends.

Lastly, it was very depressing and mind-screwy. So. Kudos.

8/10. I'd give you a seven, but I'm obsessive about good, quality tone, and you had that down pat (like, really down pat). I'm actually tempted to give you a nine... but I'm not feeling very generous today. If you fix that /indent issue, maybe.

Edit: I was too lazy to bother with actual quotes.

So shut up.


Lol, thanks Rayne, I appreciate the comments. and 80% is better than a DNP
Jonath
Depressing. I'll say that first off. So depressing I had to listen to Feels so Good by Chuck Mangione to get back to a happy place but I'm guessing that was your intention so bravo. smile.gif
The main problem with it is the style of narration. It's somewhat poor form to constantly address that things aren't important to "the story". You could just mention the and leave them at that.
Honestly this sounded a bit like some of Rod Serling's work which is a good thing, believe me.
king raven
QUOTE (Jonath @ Oct 24 2009, 02:02 PM) *
Depressing. I'll say that first off. So depressing I had to listen to Feels so Good by Chuck Mangione to get back to a happy place but I'm guessing that was your intention so bravo. smile.gif
The main problem with it is the style of narration. It's somewhat poor form to constantly address that things aren't important to "the story". You could just mention the and leave them at that.
Honestly this sounded a bit like some of Rod Serling's work which is a good thing, believe me.


Thanks Jonath, I appreciate it.

When I wrote it, I had a reason for pointing out that things weren't relevant.... I can't really remember it right now though....

It was kind of a combination of foreshadowing about how none of it was real, and also a way to establish that, since I wasn't describing this character in any way, then there must be something really important about the one I do describe in some detail.

I think that was it. It certainly sounds like me...

And yeah, my intention was to convey how heart-wrenching that sensation is.
Jonath
The story's title is even Twilight Zone-ish. I'm just imagining a young William Shatner playing the role of the protagonist.
king raven
QUOTE (Jonath @ Oct 24 2009, 02:13 PM) *
The story's title is even Twilight Zone-ish. I'm just imagining a young William Shatner playing the role of the protagonist.


As my RPers know, I'm gonna take this character "the visitor" and run with him. I'm planning on incorporating him into several of my next stories....

But I have to write a happy story next... my girlfriend wants one.

I don't know if I can write "happy."
Jonath
So this character is recurring in your works then?
Yeah I'm currently entertaining the notion of a single central being that holds together all my stories and fictional universes and would allow me to write crossovers if I wanted.
Writing happy is something that comes naturally to me. I wouldn't say my work is upbeat but it definitely always ends more or less on a positive note. Try writing something about human kindness if you can, that usually works. You don't even have to make it a 'happy story' just give it a happy ending. Kinda like a reverse of what you did here.
king raven
QUOTE (Jonath @ Oct 24 2009, 02:36 PM) *
So this character is recurring in your works then?
Yeah I'm currently entertaining the notion of a single central being that holds together all my stories and fictional universes and would allow me to write crossovers if I wanted.
Writing happy is something that comes naturally to me. I wouldn't say my work is upbeat but it definitely always ends more or less on a positive note. Try writing something about human kindness if you can, that usually works. You don't even have to make it a 'happy story' just give it a happy ending. Kinda like a reverse of what you did here.


so like

The man woke. His wife lay beside him, down the hall a warm blaze flickered in the fireplace. A dream, he thought, that was all it had been. As he settled back into his bed and he closed his eyes, a smile settled on his features. It was good to be alive.


except, I would have so much trouble not writing this part in too

A shadow crossed the flickering light of the fire and sat in the easy chair. The visitor's smile was as wide as it ever had been as he leaned forward to warm himself.

"I think I'll keep you here a little longer then," he said, to no one in particular, "after all, you can't escape me that easily."

In the real world, the man lay in a hospital bed, monitors surrounding him, vitals being recorded by nurses. A coma, the doctors had told his family. The man had attempted suicide and had instead ended up in a coma. The head nurse left the room in a hurry, eager to move on to the next patient. That smile on his face was creepy to say the least. Oh well, she thought, at least he's having a pleasant dream.
Jonath
The Visitor sounds a lot like the G-Man from Half-Life only it seems like the Visitor just does it for the Lulz.
king raven
QUOTE (Jonath @ Oct 24 2009, 02:51 PM) *
The Visitor sounds a lot like the G-Man from Half-Life only it seems like the Visitor just does it for the Lulz.


Don't know who the G-Man is, I've never played Half-Life.... but yeah, he basically does it for sport. I'm going to have a lot of fun with this character in the future
Sal
QUOTE (king raven @ Oct 24 2009, 12:32 AM) *
Also, through the writing style, I've made implications that The Visitor is actually the narrator, being that he's the only one to speak, until the very end, and that only occurs after he leaves. I specifically avoided using dialogue in the other characters so that connection might be drawn by someone who thought along those lines.

As such, I feel that I provided adequate detail for the "main character." You might note that, like the dialogue, the only one who actually has a physical description is The Visitor.

As for your second point, I don't see any point at which I move to future, but I do note that I move between present and past very briefly in the final part of the story. That choppiness was an intentional, though perhaps pointless, way of helping the reader to understand that things are unravelling.

I do appreciate your comments, and I'm glad you enjoyed it otherwise.


You know what. That makes a lot more sense, and using the voice I imagine for 'The Visitor' really adds points in creepiness. Kinda deep, but mocking a little bit especially around the parts where it really doesn't matter. God....how can I describe this voice...Oh well.

And I don't know why I said future. I reread it and didn't find any future tense...probably didn't help I read it almost at midnight...probably just wasn't thinking straight.

Second. I blame you for my very creepy dream last night, because this was the last thing I read before I feel asleep...and my dream was horrible....I might just make a short story out of it. wink.gif

Third....You should totally put that part you added in a few posts ago in the actual story. Like the man thinks he died...but haha! You're only in a coma and ' The Visitor' is going to continue to mess with you forever!

Fourth...don't worry Raven. I can't seem to write happy things either. I find writing happy things not as fulfilling, but then again, if you think about it, this could be considered a happy story for someone involved. I mean, seriously, it looks like 'The Visitor' is having a lot of fun and is enjoying himself. XD
Nicol Bolas
Alright, I decided to run with Sal's idea of reading the whole thing in the Visitor's imagined voice (which is, for me, a resonant and unfathomably evil bass tone with a minor English accent), and I must admit that it enhanced the narrative quite a bit. It was pretty epic.
king raven
QUOTE (Nicol Bolas @ Oct 24 2009, 09:48 PM) *
Alright, I decided to run with Sal's idea of reading the whole thing in the Visitor's imagined voice (which is, for me, a resonant and unfathomably evil bass tone with a minor English accent), and I must admit that it enhanced the narrative quite a bit. It was pretty epic.



Lol, thanks.

I'm not sure exactly how I imagine the Visitor's voice. Affable and warm, but with sinister undertones I guess... like the friendly guy you meet that seems nice enough, but something in his voice tells you he'd just as soon put a knife in your back as talk to you.
Jonath
It's important to know a characters voice, it makes writing dialogue easier. For instance the fact that the villain from my first book, the Polar-Man has a constant supercilious and condescending tone which along with his posh Received Pronunciation Accent makes him sound like a pompous douchebag but in a weird way somewhat charming and charismatic which really describes his personality as a whole.
Rayne
QUOTE (Jonath @ Oct 24 2009, 11:02 AM) *
The main problem with it is the style of narration. It's somewhat poor form to constantly address that things aren't important to "the story". You could just mention the and leave them at that.

Like I said, though, it sets the tone in a way. Like, "I know that <name> doesn't always write that way, so I know that he's doing it purposely, and it's not because he wasn't taught right." is always in the back of my mind, so I can enjoy things a lot easier most of the people obsessive about form or prose.

Edit: It's one of the few cases where my being obsessive about something (tone) actually makes my life easier more often than it makes it harder.
KAKKAROOOT!!!
Ok, dude. Seriously. That needs to be published.

It could probably do with a bit of grammar proofing like Rayne said, and I noticed a single spelling error, but that needs to go into a book of epic short stories.
Dreamweaver
Very nice, i liked it. It's the first time i've read any story written in the narrator style so can't tell much more than than.

QUOTE (king raven @ Oct 24 2009, 07:44 PM) *
so like

The man woke. His wife lay beside him, down the hall a warm blaze flickered in the fireplace. A dream, he thought, that was all it had been. As he settled back into his bed and he closed his eyes, a smile settled on his features. It was good to be alive.


except, I would have so much trouble not writing this part in too

A shadow crossed the flickering light of the fire and sat in the easy chair. The visitor's smile was as wide as it ever had been as he leaned forward to warm himself.

"I think I'll keep you here a little longer then," he said, to no one in particular, "after all, you can't escape me that easily."

In the real world, the man lay in a hospital bed, monitors surrounding him, vitals being recorded by nurses. A coma, the doctors had told his family. The man had attempted suicide and had instead ended up in a coma. The head nurse left the room in a hurry, eager to move on to the next patient. That smile on his face was creepy to say the least. Oh well, she thought, at least he's having a pleasant dream.


That latter one would suit your story well. Makes it even more chilling to read. :3
king raven
QUOTE (Dreamweaver @ Oct 25 2009, 02:14 PM) *
Very nice, i liked it. It's the first time i've read any story written in the narrator style so can't tell much more than than.



That latter one would suit your story well. Makes it even more chilling to read. :3


Generally considered, I much prefer writing with a detached narrator, it lets me get away with not describing my characters physically. When you're talking to people, you need ways to distinguish them. If you keep the cast simple and use a narrator you can escape that.

And yeah, I'd like to add that in, but I feel like it closes out pretty nicely the way it is. Adding that would seem like I'm lengthening it unnecessarily.
SoitsHods
I dont think its 100 true but i have heard you only remember a dream if you wake up whilst you were dreaming.

Im sure I have remember the "dream before the one where I woke up" before, but certainly I remember dreams better if I wake up whilst dreaming and then think about the dream I just had. It is possible to completely not remember a dream even if you wake up in the middle of it, if you dont "think" about the dream ebfore going back to sleep.
ryannayr417
Well, what is to distinguish a dream ending from a dream breaking off at a point where it could be continued? Technically you always wake up in the midst of a dream.
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