For the purpose of arguing your increasingly idiotic point you'd be willing to bet anything I'm sure.
You might be able to make an argument that Cale's slightly feminine (really it ends at the hair, after that there's no real femininity in him) but you can't argue he's a biological woman.

Of course not, Cale's an elf, because of that I can no more effectively argue Cale is a man than I can argue Cale's a woman.

Jonath, I heard a phrase today that you might do well to consider.

"Never get in a pissing contest with a skunk."

He's going to win this fight. Not because he's right, but because he'll dirty up the whole argument and wear you out.

@ Jonath: How can you NOT recognize this as a "troll, troll, troll yer boat"???

I vote he's MALE. That's it. I refuse to budge. Nanny nanny boo boo.

I think Jonath just enjoys an exuse to raise his post count.

Damn they've discovered my secret
I must eliminate them
My problem is that as long as Rurik makes dumb posts I have a compulsion to point out just how dumb they are and all the holes in his "logic"

And you realize that getting you into that flustered state is what feeds him, right? Your compulsions are playing right into his hands, my good man.

While I personally think this whole conversation has been wonderfully entertaining, stupidity and all, I think it's about time it ended. In my experience, arguing just to get someone else riled up eventually leads to flames, derailments, hard feelings, and the occasional suspension.




And Cale's a male. See, it even rhymes. Nyah.

I would have voted if the 'neither' or 'both' option was presented.

The discussion is over, majority has voted no so he is male and don't look like a woman.

I put in one vote to yes, just because it is the best option on the list.

Actually, technically the majority has voted either yes, or meh.

I call a revote! With both and neither included as options!

Neither would have actually been my vote had it been an option, since that's precisely how elves are best described.

Technically the majority has voted no or meh. I knew you were a troll but I thought you could at least count.

It's called perspective, the majority didn't vote for either no or yes, they voted for a combination of one or the other and meh, more people voted for no or meh than they voted for yes, conversely more also voted for yes or meh than no, but either way you choose to look at it, saying the majority voted yes is innacurate.

That's not how statistics works Rurik. And if you want to be technical about it then a plurality voted for No which still counts as a win seeing as meh votes are more or less thrown out as non-issues.

A lot of people probably voted for meh because there was no both or neither, I almost voted for meh myself, but figured if I can't vote for neither, Cale is closer to feminine than masculine so that would be as close as I got.

I assumed it was visually. If you simply look at the character and his actions then, other than wearing his heart on his sleeve, he's very much a man's man. There's nothing lady-like about him.

Being a fellow with long hair and "pretty" facial features this kinda crap just irks me, sorry. Ill stop feeding da troll now.

To be honest, i dont think Cale is feminine, he have long hair, but so what? long hair is quite manly, also Richards body have a far more feminine build.


Moral of the story; This joke is getting very old, and very boring.

And yet here we are, continuing it.

The Aye's = 9
The No's = 14
The Meh's = 7

The No's wins, even if the Aye's are above the No's!

(Sorry, I just couldn't restrain myself...)

You people obviously just have issue distinguishing men from 11 year old girls.

that kind of issue would probably get you to jail pretty soon...

well, i say NO, because i can obviously tell he is a he cause of the angular jaw, thicker upper torso, and even is dialogue. HOWEVER!!!!!! it is a common mistake to make, seeing as a MALE elven character is slightly more feminine in build, than, say, a male human, also like a Female Dwarven is more masculine than a female human. Elven are more feminine, HOWEVER, they don't lack in skills.

I say, to counter Rurik/make his head explode, somone go in photoshop, find the manliest picture they can find of Cale, and edit away his long hair and make his ears humanlike.


DUN DUN DUN

If you edited his ears, made his hair short and brown, and gave him five o'clock shadow wouldn't Cale just be Noel from LICD?

... dear god your right. Noel is an 11 year old girl!

Photoshop all you want, still can't give an elf a clearly defined gender.

This thread saddens me
It was a question of masculinity and not of his gender
Rurik said he looks feminine... Who really cares? It was a question of manliness not if Cale was a male.. Besides that, this was entirely an opinion based question and NOT fact based.
For what its worth, I voted no...

Technically gender applies equally to biology and masculinity/femininity.

Then again, being masculine does not make you a man, nor does it make you a woman.
He asked if we thought of him masculine not if hes male or female.

I don't care. He is STILL an 11 year old girl. Inside and out. literally.

You said "He".
Even if this is true, he still got a half attractive green female to have a form of ,what is believed to be, sexual intercorse with. He might be an 11 year old girl but he still made Benny moan...
Arrg... I'm getting off subject.

It was feeding. The Benny we see now is an evil clone.... 11 year old guirls have that power you know. So i restate HE BE FEMALE!

I don't think cale looks feminine because of the hair i just think he looks feminine all together

Care to elaborate? Besides the hair what about Cale is feminine?

that proves my point, does it not. Unless, say you were going towards their lenient stylings.

io dont really hink he is that femine besides the hair.... and personality. becuase at the begining of the comic he was pretty sweet to things and over the time he has started to become more not caring =/

but he is elven and all elven are feminine in some way shape or form. they just have a more elegant, fluid and graceful build. is that enough proof? Also, thats my screensaver!

Cale is clearly masculine. The theory that he's feminine simply because he's an elf doesn't work, just because elves feminine or androgynous in some fantasy fiction doesn't work because it's only the looking for group world that matter's in discussing Cale's masculinity.

I think in the beginning he did look a little more androgynous in the beginning but his new life style of constant walking while carrying weapons, battling and regular training have made more of a man out of him. Hence the joke being dropped in the comic. I was going to look for a page with shirtless Cale such as when he was unknowing building war-machines for the bloodrage but that's so nicely been done for me. That looks incredibly male to me, only the ugliest most 'masculine' of female body builders have chest that square cut. Also the casual acceptance of him being shirtless is a very masculine quality.

I know I'm a first-time poster, but you know what?

I think this thread has already served it's purpose, so...

... Uh, nothing to see here, folks... Move along...

so my post decided it?
YAY!

Just commenting to say, that I do not think that Cale looks the least bit femine. The long hair does not look like a women's typical haircut either - it is just look hair. There is nothing about his body that seems the least bit female. I have seen a lot of skinny guys in real life to find his feature rather male looking.

Even next to the other elves he still appears male and not female in my eyes. I think all the LFG elves show very clear gender attributes, even though they are much more lean and slender compared to the humans or dwarves.

He's an elf. Enough said.

Finally, someone besides me makes some sense.

*Gasps* ..really?!?

Who? ..Where? ..When? *looks around for that someone*

_{Ohwaitamin- ..that's me!}

No no, you're thinking of Bullhead over there, finally someone else who realizes the fact that Cale's an elf, and that makes Cale androgynous by nature, just like being Richard makes you awesome by nature.

I'd say being Richard makes you over-rated by nature.

Elves come in one brand; female. Some are just a little less female than others.

i've been finding Richard very not-awesome lately, and just annoying.


He's jumped the shark by now.