Ok i got a serious question- WHY ARE ONLY THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MAIN CHARS REZZED? Cale was resurected after richard's outburst early on, so why doesnt benny resurect all of the casualties after the battle, or at least the ones on their side?

Serious answer:
Rezzing takes time and effort and Benny can't be expected to rezz every last soldier from a battlefield.
Less Serious answer:
No one cares about non-main characters.

Or at least mabey the father of the bloodrage brothers, he seems to be important
possibly an act as a good samaratin?
Or just to let richard to try again with the interrogation


In unrelated news, i believe i have found my antagonist on these forms

From my understanding, it has to do with the comic taking a more serious tone with an large story since the beginning. To still allow Benny, or any other healer type person, to bring anyone they want back to life would make death completely meaningless in the comic.

Well Papa Bloodrage's ashes were mixed in with everyone elses, she couldn't rez him.
And in unrelated news you're not even on my Radar.

cause im stealthed

Hmm, good question!

A few possible explanations:

1: Benny has to have a sort of connection with the people she rezzes. Can be counter-argued that in the first few pages of the comic, she rezzed Cale for a fee.

2: OOM

Simple:
Cale asked her not to.

!) Maybe she can only prepare a certain number of spells per 'x' amount of time.

2) It takes a certain amount of 'mana' from her, or she needs the aforementioned connection.

3) She needs all of the body, or a certain percentage of it.

4) There's a time-limit during which it can be done after the time of death, afterwards, it's impossible.

5) Maybe some people have a permission-card, 'In case of death, I do not want any extreme or heroic attempts for life-support or revivification. *signture*'. Or, it could be considered sacrilege to resurrect a warrior who had fallen in battle.

6) Even if the spell is successful, she would need the cooperation of the person's soul. (Maybe this is why it was difficult to heal Ray'd, who was so close to death. He was severely injured, and from his viewpoint, his kin and culture were gone.)

The only friendly non-main characters that die in droves are often in no condition to be rezzed. Theoretically Benny could have tried to pull a miracle and rezz the entire scorched battlefield but seeing as the ashes of all the dead warriors were mixed in it probably would have produced some form of abomination, AKA "Good times"

good times indeed

Its simply a form of Deus ex Machina that occurred when the comic was less 'serious', but now that it is, such deus ex machina would ruin its 'serious' mood.

Or the 'serious' one: I like to believe that she needs all the body and it needs to be relatively soon after the death occurred. ( I point to Richards comment to Cale that, if there was hole in the bag, he would be missing something after the res.)

The part about her not being able to reattach/heal Ray'd's arm can back up that statement too. Once it rots or has been apart from the body for too long, it can no longer be repaired, and if the person has been dead too long, the soul has moved on and the body can't be resurrected to true life.
Richard, being undead, doesn't count, as he's not actually "alive".

I continue to believe Richard just heals himself with a healing factor that makes wolverine look like a hemophiliac. He just pretends Benny does it to make her feel useful.

Ressurections/raise dead/revive is a complex spell and is taxing for both the caster to cast and for the person being resurrected, it also requires alot in components/focus.

I don't know about that, she didn't seem to require that much in the way of components nor focus when she raised Cale, and neither of them seemed very winded, hell, Cale went and leaped straight into a literal ballroom brawl.

well what about the bloodrage druid? As a druid, he has a battle rez spell, and he was nearby. Why did he not act?

You're not that quick, are you? That's something in WoW, this is not WoW

He's not even a druid, he's more of a Shaman. And no you can't assume that magic of LFG is the same as WoW magic because LFG isn't WoW.

To a different extent, nobody is guaranteed to know any specific spells based on their class. There is no level system that causes them to automatically learn a spell at regular intervals. They need to take the time to actually go and learn the thing and not muck it up with all sorts of consequences.

Yep, not a game, its a story, different. But really, its (if one excludes advancement of story seriousness) in my opinion, some sort of time constraint/ amount of body left thing.

Yep. I would assume this kind of magic would require at least most of the body, and as 'fresh' as possible.
(Now, that sounds disburbing . . .)

It's bringing somebody back from the dead. There's bound to be disturbing elements when you pervert the laws of nature like that.

I would have to say it's for the same reason that nobody uses a Hearth Stone every half an hour in LFG. Like a handful of people have already said, LFG is not WoW.

even though it has a MASSIVE basis in it, almost like a roleplayers view of it.

If you pay attention you'll see that WoW makes up maybe 35% of its substance. Not nearly enough for you to start pulling out rules from the WoW RPG Rulebook as if they're LFG canon.

jonath, u really dont like me do you?

I don't have anything against you. Just ask Rurik and BoLE, I can but-heads with others and I might even turn to name-calling but I don't hate anyone on this forum, not outright anyhow. I just don't like that you try to apply WoW rules to LFG to support points you make.

thing is i am a logical mind, and i link things to past experiences, aka WoW, and I wish people could see from the modern WoW view, as well as the Lore view. I see things as your ways, but the thing is such things are based on assumptions, and Y'all know what that leads to....

OOM


aka


Out oF mana


cant tell you how many times i've died and a preist has spammed "OOM"

yet she had not been casting at the time, yet a logical point, if it were off screen. BUT she would have rested before contuining. and BTW, ask for a shaman, mine is faster than a preist and stronger as well as more mana efficient.

Past experiences mean all of nothing in this case. You're comparing apples to oranges here. Your logic is really just inflexibility, because you don't understand LFG's magic (really no one aside from Sohmer does since there are no real rules) you try to apply a different incompatible system of conventions to it.
And what do you mean by assumptions? If anything you're the one assuming that WoW lore applies here. An incorrect assumption that really annoys everyone who knows better.

u dont know the saying then.....

Oh don't mind him Redleg. He just a figurative stick up his metaphorical butt.
He just likes debate and argument, as do we all. When it comes to me our arguments are generally of the

BoLE: RICHARD PWNS ALL FOREVER!
Jonath: No.
BoLE: YES.
Jonath: NO!
BoLE: YES!!
*repeat with increasing level of exclamation*

He's actually rather tolerable once you get to know him.


But i must agree with him (again... wow... the world shall end very soon at this rate) at this point LFG is only loosely based of WOW, but it is a natural connection to make with the similar races. So there is 0 way to know for sure what the rules are. We can only speculate.

..So by that i can i compare D&D logic to the magic of LFG since it's my past experience

..meaning ressurections would cost way too much for ordinary people aka the normal unnamed characters in the comic and reduce a level (or two Constitution ability if level 1)) point when it is cast on someone. =P [/tongue-in-cheek sarcasm]

I agree with jonath though, LFG is a mix of fantasy settings and no particular magic system beside the one soh/lar's imagination creates.

I have a humble possibility to offer:

Benny can't resurrect people.

Cale's ashes are the only instance of a talking corpse I can recall in the comic. Richard and his town are undead, they are animate and alive, if not in the biological sense.

No one in the first few panels refers to Cale as dead, nor is the spell referred to as a resurrection. Rather they talk of him being healed. Cale was incinerated and the spell cast was a revive spell.

Richard is a vastly powerful being, it's within reason that he could incinerate someone in more than one manner. One of which may be more of a translutation to ashes than a true, kill-you-dead burning. Possibly he desired to keep Cale's ashes as a pet, and only allowed him to be healed out of curiosity.

Myself, I can't think of any other instances that could be viewed as a resurrection but it's too late for me to skim through the comic to make sure. This fits the events of both the early comic and the later more serious tone and doesn't nvolve any outside influences.

My $.02, goodnight.

They are two diferent cases. When Benny revived Cale, Cale was a talking pile of ashes. When the chief Tauren guy died, he did not talk to anyone. He went to the great grass plains in the sky and never came back.
Besides that, it is very possible that Richard just transmuted Cale into a pile of ashes and wanted Benny to turn him into a giant centipede monster for the fun of it all. (I apologize if i used the wrong type of magic)
Also, as stated earlier in this thread, if everyone who died was revived, would the whole death thing have the same impact?

hmmm.. good point though. but still, on the point of the transmutation to ashes, if one is frustruated, their mental control wavers. If ones mental control wavers, they have less control over the magics one may posess. if that happens, then his spells will be limited, and a transmutation/polymorph/conversion is a long, audrous spell that can be inaccurate and often fail, turning the energies back upon the user. YET richard is powerful, possibly to overcome the obstacle. HOWEVER, the time needed to cast such a spell is more than 1-2 seconds, often only done in the saftey of ones home or, in a magi's case, tower. So how could he have transmuted cale into ashes, and if so, Why ashes, Why not use a fusing spell to fuse cales body with that of the centipede? To have holy magics imbued into the new being? as we all know, darkness pwns , and light pwns, but not as much. if richard was trying to avoid the blame, it would have failed, as well as became an entity that would be uncontrollable, and turned on him. If he used his own magics to do the job, he could have bound it to his will as to be a better minion than you know who...... the little guy.

I don't think Richard ever planned on the "Good Times" from the start. Sure he would have loved to see it but he probably just left the bug in there for the Hell of it, maybe to give Cale company. I chock up the talking ashes to rule of funny, something that wouldn't happen now in the marginally-more serious LFG we know today.

mabey, but still, why not assist some people and make some extra cash? money makes the world go around!

1) Cale dont have any magic. >.> (to bolded part)
2) It's quite easy to transform/polymorph another creature, ressurection/revive/raise dead is an entirely other thing though.
3) Possible just a plot twist to bring Benny into the ocmic

I was referring to richard in bolded part. not cale. HOwever, for a permenant polymorph, it requires a long casting, like those that have best effect (pyroblast, demon summons, and, yes, rezzes.)

o_O; then it makes no sense to me, ..i read it as cale being ashes would degrade mental stability over time and concentration of his spells.


..but no, whether permanent or not, polymorphing takes a round to cast.

but polymorph is:
1. temporary, and increaces regeneration
2. used for controlling a crowd, as to lessen the targets.
3. premade for a persons preferences, as to specify who did it.

Richard got mad at cale for being called "dick". is that simple enough?

Red stop using WoW analogies and Dream stop using DnD!

No, polymorping others is permanent.

*snerks*


_{*and wonders when it's discovered we talk of two different magic systems*}


edit: *snaps fingers* damn it Ducky. =P

we use logic from past experiences and therefore we actually know what we are saying. JONATH STOP ASSUMING THINGS: REMEMBER THE SAYING. ASSUMING MAKES AN ASS OUT OF YOU AND ME . ass-u-me.

lol .. ..he's right.

Yes but if you had any real logic you'd understand that your past experiences with the magic of other settings means all of shit here.

Yup yup, QFT.

..was kinda my point when i used the DnD reference, magic systems in fantasy settings are all different and therefor LFG comic's magic is unique as it takes things from general fantasy.

(that i found it amusing messing with his minds logic with it *grins*)