Chibii
Oct 13 2009, 03:28 AM
I'm not sure if someone noticed it, but the fact that they are bowing to the bunny have nothing to do with the archmage.
Just see this:
http://lfgcomic.com/page/169
DFlame
Oct 13 2009, 03:43 AM
QUOTE (Chibii @ Oct 12 2009, 10:28 PM)

I'm not sure if someone noticed it, but the fact that they are bowing to the bunny have nothing to do with the archmage.
Just see this:
http://lfgcomic.com/page/169We all know about that, but it seems like too much off a coincidence for them to suddenly be worshipping the time-traveling, shape-shifting, archmage bunny. It's not like they go around worshipping every bunny they see... at least I certainly hope not.......
So yh, it's fairly certain that the archmage has something to do with their bunny worship.
Allegrasan
Oct 13 2009, 03:49 AM
QUOTE (Chibii @ Oct 12 2009, 08:28 PM)

...the fact that they are bowing to the bunny have nothing to do with the archmage.
or
everything to do with the archmage.
HeavyP04
Oct 13 2009, 03:51 AM
QUOTE (Xal @ Oct 12 2009, 11:38 AM)

Something tells me their lord, quite possibly the most powerful mage of all time, doesn't have much to fear from a warlock.
Hmmm...the Archmage is, well, "The Archmage" and has shown himself to be capable of large-scale Abjuration/Transmutation/Conjuration spells (y'know, making a city disappear from reality for a while and all) and is apparently a capable Chessmaster.
Richard, while generally classed as a Warlock, appears to be a good deal more powerful than one would expect a standard Warlock to be. Standard FWOOSHing is in evidence, of course, but how about opening portals through time, breaking a banishment spell, or having power enough for the Phares to borrow a bit to stop a tidal wave? In addition, while magic is abundant, I've seen no evidence of any other Warlocks, other than Richard's self-proclaimed title of "Chief Warlock of the Brothers of Darkness." There's no shortage of evil, power-hungry b*stards who would have no problem with the apparent side effects of walking the path of the Warlock, so I'd conclude that it's neither simple, nor easy to become one.
Granted, Richard is a major character, so we see much more of his abilities and history than the Archmage, who while being alluded to as a mysterious and powerful magic-user, is limited to appearances as either bunny-in-the-background or this week's guest NPC. All in all, I don't give Dick the win by default but should the two ever squab, I do believe it'd be a fairly even matchup and one hell of a fight.
Chibii
Oct 13 2009, 04:03 AM
QUOTE (Allegrasan @ Oct 13 2009, 04:49 AM)

or everything to do with the archmage.
But the bunny travel with powerful mages, like Benny and Richard, so how the Sisters found out the archmage and they didn't?
PS: Sorry for my grammar.
Dreamweaver
Oct 13 2009, 04:14 AM
QUOTE (Chibii @ Oct 13 2009, 06:03 AM)

But the bunny travel with powerful mages, like Benny and Richard, so how the Sisters found out the archmage and they didn't?
PS: Sorry for my grammar.
benny is a priestess and Richard does know that the bunny is archmage
Beron
Oct 13 2009, 04:21 AM
QUOTE (HeavyP04 @ Oct 12 2009, 11:51 PM)

In addition, while magic is abundant, I've seen no evidence of any other Warlocks, other than Richard's self-proclaimed title of "Chief Warlock of the Brothers of Darkness."
Tha'ts because they've been Dickrolled.
Fwooshed. even.
Peanuts
Oct 13 2009, 04:58 AM
QUOTE (Rurik @ Oct 12 2009, 02:46 PM)

Definitely a bit anti-climactic whatever happened considering the build up, no earth shattering aura of power, no booming proclamation to the legion that their lives are forfeit issued by each and every elf simultaneously, didn't even get a badass fight scene. Would have expected something a bit more dramatic than a makeover and a presumed increase in power.
*nod*nod* or at the very least:
*rumble*rumble*rumble*
Legion Captain: What happen?!
Bald dude: somebody setup us the bomb!
Brothers and Sisters: *emerge* how are you gentlemen!! All your base are belong to us! You are on the way to destruction!
Legion Captain: What you say?!
Brothers and Sisters: You have no chance to survive make your time, HA HA HA!
Fluff
Oct 13 2009, 06:39 AM
QUOTE (Richie9999 @ Oct 12 2009, 06:30 AM)

I knew the blue peoples were still alive, I just knew it.
Yay, bunny worshiping. I want in on that religion.
Also, just wondering, does anybody else think that the reason that tree is shaped that way is because Richard mutilated or manipulated it some how? I mean most trees don't grow like that.
Actually i had a coral tree in my backyard that grew like that it had a nice deck to it where i spent much of my childhood laying across
in fact i had 2 trees like that one was lower than the other. I've seen lots of trees like the one he's laying on in my area. maybe you just havent seen them? xD
Kunama
Oct 13 2009, 08:30 AM
Felbunny is cute.
Congrats to all those people who were right in the last thread about most of the bodies being Legion soldiers.
Library Ghost
Oct 13 2009, 11:33 AM
Ashendale is a blatantly English name, so Richard wasn't a blelf (ignoring his appearance and that of his village). On another note, archbunny looks so cute in the last panel. Major bowage to the two lords!
Beron
Oct 13 2009, 12:04 PM
QUOTE (Library Ghost @ Oct 13 2009, 07:33 AM)

Ashendale is a blatantly English name, so Richard wasn't a blelf (ignoring his appearance and that of his village). On another note, archbunny looks so cute in the last panel. Major bowage to the two lords!
British and, if you take the springboard into account, Night Elf; so the name "Ashendale" is generic enough, that it could go either way. Also, under soem circumstance and in at least one draft of any given part of LoTR, I can see Tolkien having used the name Ashendale for an elf. Typically, though, it would have been "Richard, Lord of the Ashen Dale" or, at the end, "Richard, Lord Ashendale".
Jonath
Oct 13 2009, 02:02 PM
QUOTE (Beron @ Oct 13 2009, 07:04 AM)

British and, if you take the springboard into account, Night Elf; so the name "Ashendale" is generic enough, that it could go either way. Also, under soem circumstance and in at least one draft of any given part of LoTR, I can see Tolkien having used the name Ashendale for an elf. Typically, though, it would have been "Richard, Lord of the Ashen Dale" or, at the end, "Richard, Lord Ashendale".
Nah Ashendale is a human name. And a Tolkien elven name would be something like Ildria or something. Ashendale just sounds Night-elvish because it sounds like Ashenvale. Honestly I don't think Sohmer consciously made it night-elvish.
Baeron von Bleat
Oct 13 2009, 03:05 PM
QUOTE (Dreamweaver @ Oct 13 2009, 12:14 AM)

benny is a priestess and Richard does know that the bunny is archmage
"http://lfgcomic.com/page/256" Ah, but he does
QUOTE (Jonath @ Oct 12 2009, 04:55 PM)

That's lame though. Why not call it a synthesis of ideas then?
Besides philosophies generally don't "fuse".
Also, on the fusion, the girls got blue, the guys got fit (?). The guys were magical before, they just looked more Yoda like and were feeble... so very feeble.
Dreamweaver
Oct 13 2009, 03:35 PM
QUOTE (Baeron von Bleat @ Oct 13 2009, 05:05 PM)

Was that a reply to the one i replied to?
because you said the same as i did.
Beron
Oct 13 2009, 03:51 PM
Huzzah, redundancy. And I said "draft" not "final version. LOL!
From that one page, I've always had the feeling that, though felbunny was Richard's mount, that it's also, in a sense, the Archmage's "mount", or channel/observer to the group, and that Richard formed a pronounced attachment to the small furry since the time he was chibified. Before that time, we hardly saw him interacted with felbunny at all, but afterwards... That was a big turning point for Richard, character-wise. Before then, he was still more of the gung-ho-ish, sort of, type, but afterwards, we've seen him do a few things that he would not have, before that point, up to and including saving Cale from dying, and from being re-incinerated (if you remember the introductory "fwoosh").
Kronus
Oct 13 2009, 04:00 PM
So does Richard know Felbunny is The Archmage?
Jonath
Oct 13 2009, 04:34 PM
For the last time yes, Richard knows and is seemingly on his side with the whole building a Utopia plan.
Rurik
Oct 13 2009, 05:00 PM
Well, he knows there's a connection between Felbunny and the Arch-mage at any rate, it's still not been confirmed that he is a shapeshifted Arch-mage since we've never actually seen a single panel where Felbunny is shown as being completely replaced by him, the only panel we do have appears more like a projection using the cute little furball as a temporal/dimensional anchor.
Jonath
Oct 13 2009, 05:19 PM
I see the Bunny as more of an Avatar of the Archmage. I believe the Archmage is actually physically dead but his essence and consciousness lives on due to his great power and ability to travel through time. That's the thing, if someone can travel through time at will and be in any time he's never truly dead. Yet at the same time I don't think he's truly alive and needs to act through an avatar.
Beron
Oct 13 2009, 05:32 PM
Of course, too, how do we know that Richard's not the Archbunny, only his pastself isn't aware fo the connection (yet, anyway)?
Rurik
Oct 13 2009, 05:33 PM
QUOTE (Jonath @ Oct 13 2009, 12:19 PM)

I see the Bunny as more of an Avatar of the Archmage. I believe the Archmage is actually physically dead but his essence and consciousness lives on due to his great power and ability to travel through time. That's the thing, if someone can travel through time at will and be in any time he's never truly dead. Yet at the same time I don't think he's truly alive and needs to act through an avatar.
Essentially the same idea as being a temporal/dimensional anchor, in order for him to manifest in any time, he requires an anchor since he exists outside of time, he didn't need one in Kethenacia before because it also existed outside of time.
Jonath
Oct 13 2009, 05:36 PM
QUOTE (Rurik @ Oct 13 2009, 12:33 PM)

Essentially the same idea as being a temporal/dimensional anchor, in order for him to manifest in any time, he requires an anchor since he exists outside of time, he didn't need one in Kethenacia before because it also existed outside of time.
Yes but I like the word Avatar better.
(I've always loved the idea that as conscious beings we exist outside of space and time and instead exist as creatures of mind)
Lyrathian
Oct 13 2009, 06:02 PM
QUOTE (Beron @ Oct 13 2009, 10:32 AM)

Of course, too, how do we know that Richard's not the Archbunny, only his pastself isn't aware fo the connection (yet, anyway)?
When they first met, didn't Richard say he thought he looked familiar?
Jonath
Oct 13 2009, 06:10 PM
QUOTE (Lyrathian @ Oct 13 2009, 01:02 PM)

When they first met, didn't Richard say he thought he looked familiar?
Yes but that was before Felbunny was ever introduced.
Lyrathian
Oct 13 2009, 06:26 PM
So Richard had some sort of connection to the Arcmage before he started following the group.
Jonath
Oct 13 2009, 06:27 PM
QUOTE (Lyrathian @ Oct 13 2009, 01:26 PM)

So Richard had some sort of connection to the Arcmage before he started following the group.
That seems to be the case.
Chibii
Oct 13 2009, 06:30 PM
QUOTE (Dreamweaver @ Oct 13 2009, 05:14 AM)

Richard does know that the bunny is archmage[/color]
Whoa, i missed this. Can u tell me the strip number?
Dreamweaver
Oct 13 2009, 06:36 PM
QUOTE (Chibii @ Oct 13 2009, 08:30 PM)

Whoa, i missed this. Can u tell me the strip number?
One of the last posts on the previous page has it linked
Rurik
Oct 13 2009, 07:09 PM
QUOTE (Lyrathian @ Oct 13 2009, 01:26 PM)

So Richard had some sort of connection to the Arcmage before he started following the group.
Or it's possible Richard was just being a smartass as usual, or even if he was being serious, the Arch-mage just has one of those faces. I'd be amazed if anyone could honestly say they've never thought someone looked familiar when they'd never met them.
Jonath
Oct 13 2009, 07:50 PM
Yeah thinking back to when he saw the pirate at the gallows (the blue guy) and said he looked "familiar" and wondered if they used to play Chess with one another you have to wonder how much of it is his own smartassery and how much of it is the fact that his brain is rotten.
In this case though I think he was being serious, he had his serious pondering face and the Archmage was pretty keen on getting rid of him.
Jordan04d
Oct 14 2009, 08:38 AM
QUOTE (Rurik @ Oct 14 2009, 02:00 AM)

Well, he knows there's a connection between Felbunny and the Arch-mage at any rate, it's still not been confirmed that he is a shapeshifted Arch-mage since we've never actually seen a single panel where Felbunny is shown as being completely replaced by him, the only panel we do have appears more like a projection using the cute little furball as a temporal/dimensional anchor.
http://lfgcomic.com/page/229 you can see the transformation from felbunny to archmage.
besides, see the three little green jewel-like orb things on top of the bunny's head? its so similar to the archmage
The Desolate One
Oct 14 2009, 05:23 PM
They're all obviously reffering to the Bunny, or Richard would have killed some of them already.
Rurik
Oct 14 2009, 07:28 PM
QUOTE (Jordan04d @ Oct 14 2009, 03:38 AM)

http://lfgcomic.com/page/229 you can see the transformation from felbunny to archmage.
besides, see the three little green jewel-like orb things on top of the bunny's head? its so similar to the archmage
No, you can see an image of the Arch-mage appearing over Felbunny, without proof one way or another we have no clue if that's a projection using the bunny as a focal point, if he is shapeshifted as the bunny, or if he is possessing the bunny.
Suntiger
Oct 14 2009, 08:11 PM
You know, I think both Felbunny and the Archmage are avatars for a deity or semi-deity.
Not even extremely powerful mages are usually capable of playing with time and space the way Felbunny does.
Rurik
Oct 14 2009, 09:17 PM
That depends largely on the setting really. In D&D there are lots of spells that let you play with the fabric of reality, creating your own planes of existence, stopping time, etc.
Xal
Oct 14 2009, 09:19 PM
QUOTE (HeavyP04 @ Oct 13 2009, 04:51 AM)

but how about opening portals through time,
The portal was already there, it just needed someone powerful enough to open it. That doesn't mean that he's incredibly powerful, just that he had enough power. But what difference does that make anyway, opening a portal through time shows he has
less power than the archmage (who can travel through it freely), not the same amount.
QUOTE
breaking a banishment spell,
He didn't even do anything, "magics don't mix". Benny could have done the same thing.
QUOTE
Granted, Richard is a major character, so we see much more of his abilities and history than the Archmage, who while being alluded to as a mysterious and powerful magic-user, is limited to appearances as either bunny-in-the-background or this week's guest NPC. All in all, I don't give Dick the win by default but should the two ever squab, I do believe it'd be a fairly even matchup and one hell of a fight.
Richard's already been beaten quite a lot of times.
Here, for example. There are
lots of more powerful mages than Richard, so for it to be even then the archmage would have to be equally weak in comparison to them.
Jonath
Oct 14 2009, 09:47 PM
It seemed that Tavor implied that it didn't really require someone amazingly powerful and any old mage would have done fine, Richard was just the only person they had on hand. The reason Benny couldn't do it is probably because priestly magic works through theurgy while mages and warlocks act as conduits of raw mystical energy. I mean the Shriek wasn't exceptionally powerful, (a bucket defeated her) but she opened a portal up.
Rurik
Oct 14 2009, 11:40 PM
Don't forget what Gid told Cale when Richard was banished to the Plane of Suck. "Magics don't mix." If she had tried to open the portal, she might have ended up blowing everyone to hell.
Jordan04d
Oct 15 2009, 12:28 AM
QUOTE (Rurik @ Oct 15 2009, 03:28 AM)

No, you can see an image of the Arch-mage appearing over Felbunny, without proof one way or another we have no clue if that's a projection using the bunny as a focal point, if he is shapeshifted as the bunny, or if he is possessing the bunny.
let me just say you are overanalyzing the comic. It is logical for a comic to take things as it is, as what the viewers will most likely perceive. Yes, I may give in that the writers might give allowances for some twists in the storyline but seriously, the writers should be expecting that we (readers) do not analyze the comic in detail.
If I was the writer or the artist, and I am trying to have the bunny as the focal point for an astral projection, I would have drawn a beam coming out of any part of the bunny and this would be where the archmage would be projected. similar to starwars, because this is what readers would most likely conclude. I would NOT draw a bunny changing size and shape into the image of the archmage when I am trying to aim for an astral projection rather than shapeshifting capabilities.
GothicMoocow
Oct 15 2009, 12:36 AM
whered this thread come from?!! all of a sudden its here >.> and i cant find my post...
anywho

luv the new page
Rurik
Oct 15 2009, 12:41 AM
They didn't draw Felbunny changing shape at all however, you can still clearly see his outline, you know in the glowing part of the insubstantial looking bald guy where his feet would normally be. As I've said before, without substantial proof any hypothesis is equally valid to the next, since all we have to go on is one single panel which will look like different things based on different people. And there's no over analyzing involved, a type of astral projection is the first thing that occurred to me when I first saw that page months ago, not transformation.
Xal
Oct 15 2009, 07:44 AM
We already know that the archmage can transform. He transformed from the boy to the archmage, and then made it clear it was a transformation by saying the boy never existed. That transformation looked like the transformation from rabbit to archmage, so it should be clear that the same process is going on.
Saying that it's an equally valid theory because it hasn't been disproved is just wrong. We have no evidence whatsoever to suggest that the archmage can go about possessing rabbits, and yet we know that he can transform. Even if he can possess rabbits he would have no reason to. And you've yet to explain why his "astral projection" would look the same as transforming, or why the rabbit started to look like the archmage whilst it was transforming. The comic isn't an animation, the proof you're demanding is impossible. We can only be shown a before, during and after. We got shown all of them, and the evidence fits a transformation.
Devin Austra
Oct 15 2009, 07:49 AM
^ Yeah, that.
But that's pretty much off-topic for this topic though, since it happened many pages ago.
Onward with discussing Richard's cluelessness about to whom the blue elves are bowing.
Rurik
Oct 15 2009, 07:54 AM
QUOTE (Xal @ Oct 15 2009, 02:44 AM)

We already know that the archmage can transform. He transformed from the boy to the archmage, and then made it clear it was a transformation by saying the boy never existed. That transformation looked like the transformation from rabbit to archmage, so it should be clear that the same process is going on.
Saying that it's an equally valid theory because it hasn't been disproved is just wrong. We have no evidence whatsoever to suggest that the archmage can go about possessing rabbits, and yet we know that he can transform. Even if he can possess rabbits he would have no reason to. And you've yet to explain why his "astral projection" would look the same as transforming, or why the rabbit started to look like the archmage whilst it was transforming. The comic isn't an animation, the proof you're demanding is impossible. We can only be shown a before, during and after. We got shown all of them, and the evidence fits a transformation.
All the fact he has transformed proves is that he can, until I see proof that he is, beyond any shadow of a doubt, Felbunny, it's not fact, and I refuse to treat it as such.
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