Anyone else bugged by how different the top of the temple looked in the previous strip compared to this one? I know it's the kind of thing I should just let go, but it's bugging the crap out of me.
As for the sudden lack of armor, my guess is their new forms make them much faster, stronger, ect., and wearing armor would only get in the way of the major ass kicking they are about to deal out.
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Yeah the lack of armor is probably due to armor being useless now. They've probably unlocked their innate power through the Fusion ritual and are about to lay down some major hurt on the Redshirt Arm- I mean Legion.
I think the lack of armor is leveled more on the aesthetic appeal of the new garments rather than the functionality. they look more like descendants of Gods rather than just mere soldiers with those clothes.
I think it's obvious that Captain Tah-Vraay is NOT fused. Consider the page where she's sending the brothers off to be fused and she says "Enjoy your new prison." That and her 'weak grasp of magic' pretty much spells it out and she's been a dark elf the entire time. So basically two theories on how light-skinned mages become dark elfs.
Either A) It was an illusion spell. For whatever reason, the Sisters wanted to keep their connection to the Brothers a secret. (I'm not trudging through this comic to see how possible this is.)
Or
It's an inconsistency in the comic. The story was either not completely formed in those first pages or there may have been a miscommunication between storyteller and artist. This is the theory I'm going with until later notice, but really, I don't need it explained to me. A page explaining why elves are blue sounds really dull.
Either A) It was an illusion spell. For whatever reason, the Sisters wanted to keep their connection to the Brothers a secret. (I'm not trudging through this comic to see how possible this is.)
Or
It's an inconsistency in the comic. The story was either not completely formed in those first pages or there may have been a miscommunication between storyteller and artist. This is the theory I'm going with until later notice, but really, I don't need it explained to me. A page explaining why elves are blue sounds really dull.
Dis - a - ppointed
If Thursdays comic shows us the Trolls or something, I will be very upset and the world shalt know. I wanted to see Cale/Richard/Benny continue.
But I like the bald guys humour.
If Thursdays comic shows us the Trolls or something, I will be very upset and the world shalt know. I wanted to see Cale/Richard/Benny continue.
But I like the bald guys humour.
QUOTE (Kronus @ Oct 5 2009, 10:08 AM) 
Dis - a - ppointed
If Thursdays comic shows us the Trolls or something, I will be very upset and the world shalt know. I wanted to see Cale/Richard/Benny continue.
But I like the bald guys humour.
If Thursdays comic shows us the Trolls or something, I will be very upset and the world shalt know. I wanted to see Cale/Richard/Benny continue.
But I like the bald guys humour.
Don't be like that, it was the perfect time for a scene change and we are getting to see some action and hopefully they will kick the legion's arse.
i get lack of armor and no flying guys also the sisters all looking alike
makes it hard for the enemy to call attacks on prioty targets [ kill the female mage " witch 1 sir " ]
but i dont get the lack of golems unless the golems have been changed as well and there holding them in reserve for the dragons the legion has
be cool flying golems with lazer eyes muhahhaha
makes it hard for the enemy to call attacks on prioty targets [ kill the female mage " witch 1 sir " ]
but i dont get the lack of golems unless the golems have been changed as well and there holding them in reserve for the dragons the legion has
be cool flying golems with lazer eyes muhahhaha
I saw blue Cale again
QUOTE (Cecilia Lynne @ Oct 5 2009, 04:21 PM)
Don't be like that, it was the perfect time for a scene change and we are getting to see some action and hopefully they will kick the legion's arse.
Hey, I like these scenes as much as the other scenes, but my brain doesn't have a grasp of time or memory, so when the Benny/Cale thing happened, I thought it was only a few comics since the last scene switch, which realistically it isn't.
Besides, I've also been waiting to see development in the sons/daughters story for a while, they kept occasionally popping in with no real explanation or progression in the storyline with them but we probably will now.
QUOTE (Suntiger @ Oct 5 2009, 05:44 AM)
Interesting...
Is this the remnants of the last elven nation going to war then?
I wonder how old the Matron really is...
Page 287 implies that the Matron was the one to send the Sons into exile (which was a long time ago, but how long?).
That appears to have been to hide them, completely, while the Sisters (shouldn't it be Daughters?) hid in a more visible way, either via body modification or an externally applied illusion that holds even if the person die.
(And in page 148 you can see dead sisters that are not an illusion to fool the Legion.)
Apparently the Matron thought that splitting her people and hiding them was the only way to ensure their survival. The growing realm of Legara or what was to become Legara was a threat to them it seems, or was more nations than that a threat? Too little information... *grumblegrumble*
One wonders how they made more in the meantime though... Artificial wombs using preserved sperm and ovaries respectively? Oh well.
It doesn't seem to the them that are glowing as much as the light and reflections from the temple.
Both genders have cleaned up and put on some fancier clothing though. Btw, the sons "plate armour" seems to have been clothes, except for the shields. Perhaps reinforced silk, it's frequently been used as cheap/light armour historically.
Anyway, I think the fusion is more than just a slight change in appearance. Exactly what it entails we'll probably see later on.
And, Tah'vraay is a 'failed' Sister? I wonder if that was by choice, or if her weak grasp of magic (which is what her one pink eye seems to imply, instead of both being yellow/orange) forced the different role upon her.
Still, she's been useful as a free-roaming agent and go-between I imagine.
Heh, and the bald aide de camp reminds me of Haskill.
And a sick, twisted part of me imagined the elves marching out of the temple singing:
I love you, you love me, we're a happy family.
*and switch*
We're off to kill Legara, the horrible legion will die!
(to the tune of 'We're off to see the Wizard')
Is this the remnants of the last elven nation going to war then?
I wonder how old the Matron really is...
Page 287 implies that the Matron was the one to send the Sons into exile (which was a long time ago, but how long?).
That appears to have been to hide them, completely, while the Sisters (shouldn't it be Daughters?) hid in a more visible way, either via body modification or an externally applied illusion that holds even if the person die.
(And in page 148 you can see dead sisters that are not an illusion to fool the Legion.)
Apparently the Matron thought that splitting her people and hiding them was the only way to ensure their survival. The growing realm of Legara or what was to become Legara was a threat to them it seems, or was more nations than that a threat? Too little information... *grumblegrumble*
One wonders how they made more in the meantime though... Artificial wombs using preserved sperm and ovaries respectively? Oh well.
It doesn't seem to the them that are glowing as much as the light and reflections from the temple.
Both genders have cleaned up and put on some fancier clothing though. Btw, the sons "plate armour" seems to have been clothes, except for the shields. Perhaps reinforced silk, it's frequently been used as cheap/light armour historically.
Anyway, I think the fusion is more than just a slight change in appearance. Exactly what it entails we'll probably see later on.
And, Tah'vraay is a 'failed' Sister? I wonder if that was by choice, or if her weak grasp of magic (which is what her one pink eye seems to imply, instead of both being yellow/orange) forced the different role upon her.
Still, she's been useful as a free-roaming agent and go-between I imagine.
Heh, and the bald aide de camp reminds me of Haskill.
And a sick, twisted part of me imagined the elves marching out of the temple singing:
I love you, you love me, we're a happy family.
*and switch*
We're off to kill Legara, the horrible legion will die!
(to the tune of 'We're off to see the Wizard')
1. Too old? *ducks.
2. Ponn Farr. *giggle* Arranged twists, secreting the male-born away to join the other males, and keeping the females to raise secretly in the Temple. With Tah'vraay as intermediary, of course.
3. Trinkets, charged to maintain the illusion.
Just a quick question: What do the Sisters do with their hands? Some kind of strange gesture... Are they casting a spell or something like that? And why only Sisters? 
Just wanted to point out that not all the females are bald. Some have single ponytails/braids at the back of their heads. All in all, a pretty darn good comic. I can't wait for the impending Legion Arse whupping that is sure to come.
I do think it's odd that the sisters changed so much while the sons only got a costume change. I do think these blue skinned sister are the same we have been seeing though. The glowy golden eyes would suggest so at least.
I got the idea that the Matron exiled the sons because something happened and she got pissed at them. The page where T'Avrey is talking to the sons make it seem more like the Matron exiled them in a fit of rage and (I think) has only revoked their exile because they need the males. I also think that the sons and sisters are naturally connected by some major mojo and the Matron was so mad over whatever happened that she broke this connection. That may also explain why the sisters were previously all golden skinned. Since the Matron was mad at the sons, when they split she made sure that the sisters got most of the magic and therefore making it over condensed and made them all golden instead of just their eyes. If you look back, all of the sisters are magic users while there is a much smaller percentage of son magic users.
I am totally okay with the no armor or golemns standing around. I'm just assuming that the sisters and sons are super badass now, way more than just their previous powers combined. Sort of like a lot of metal and powder sitting on a table doesn't do anything, but when you put it all together how it's supposed to be you get a gun and bullets.
I got the idea that the Matron exiled the sons because something happened and she got pissed at them. The page where T'Avrey is talking to the sons make it seem more like the Matron exiled them in a fit of rage and (I think) has only revoked their exile because they need the males. I also think that the sons and sisters are naturally connected by some major mojo and the Matron was so mad over whatever happened that she broke this connection. That may also explain why the sisters were previously all golden skinned. Since the Matron was mad at the sons, when they split she made sure that the sisters got most of the magic and therefore making it over condensed and made them all golden instead of just their eyes. If you look back, all of the sisters are magic users while there is a much smaller percentage of son magic users.
I am totally okay with the no armor or golemns standing around. I'm just assuming that the sisters and sons are super badass now, way more than just their previous powers combined. Sort of like a lot of metal and powder sitting on a table doesn't do anything, but when you put it all together how it's supposed to be you get a gun and bullets.
CBA to read the four pages of replies, but didn't you guys notice that there were pairs of male + female walking?
The fusion was clearly a mass-marriage.
The fusion was clearly a mass-marriage.
So the fusion made radiation that made women go bald? XD
I maintain that they are all wearing blackface now and it just kinda spiraled out of control from there.
"Enjoy your new prison"
clearly states that they just married.
"Marriage is an institution, and so is Alcatraz" =)
clearly states that they just married.
"Marriage is an institution, and so is Alcatraz" =)
QUOTE (Amish @ Oct 5 2009, 02:47 PM)
"Enjoy your new prison"
clearly states that they just married.
"Marriage is an institution, and so is Alcatraz" =)
clearly states that they just married.
"Marriage is an institution, and so is Alcatraz" =)
And now that is my favorite theory! YAY! Makes sense to me.
Mass marriage seems like a real cop-out, why bother using a cool term like fusion to describe something so mundane? While I agree that they seem to have paired off but I don't think that's the real fusion.
QUOTE (DFlame @ Oct 5 2009, 09:24 AM)
As for the sudden lack of armor, my guess is their new forms make them much faster, stronger, ect., and wearing armor would only get in the way of the major ass kicking they are about to deal out.
And
QUOTE (Shnezz @ Oct 5 2009, 08:53 AM)
In response to the missing armor question, maybe they removed their armor to keep up with the unarmored sisters. That weight would get in the way of a long march, and they probably want to kill those troops and escape before more arrive.
As far as I'm concerned, there's no way that the armor would get in the way of them fighting, I mean they marched from Legara to the Bloodrage's mass grave to the Temple in it, why ditch it now?
If it was getting in their way, they totally would have ditched it during the march when it would have made a difference.
Also, in regards to the pairings, I don't think its marriage, but rather sex partners maybe.
QUOTE (Richie9999 @ Oct 5 2009, 03:23 PM)
And
As far as I'm concerned, there's no way that the armor would get in the way of them fighting, I mean they marched from Legara to the Bloodrage's mass grave to the Temple in it, why ditch it now?
If it was getting in their way, they totally would have ditched it during the march when it would have made a difference.
Also, in regards to the pairings, I don't think its marriage, but rather sex partners maybe.
As far as I'm concerned, there's no way that the armor would get in the way of them fighting, I mean they marched from Legara to the Bloodrage's mass grave to the Temple in it, why ditch it now?
If it was getting in their way, they totally would have ditched it during the march when it would have made a difference.
Also, in regards to the pairings, I don't think its marriage, but rather sex partners maybe.
So its the exact oppposite of marriage
QUOTE (Devin Austra @ Oct 5 2009, 01:07 AM)
those are definitly human ears, so now we have an army of shiny drow elves?
I have to admit, the guy saying "That's some dead bird" made me smirk. Ah, smart alecks. Ya love 'em, ya hate 'em. 
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I second the motion.
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If there's going to be one Legaran to survive this battle I hope its the bald guy.
I second the motion.
If there's going to be one Legaran to survive this battle I hope its the bald guy.
QUOTE (Jonath @ Oct 5 2009, 06:54 PM)
If there's going to be one Legaran to survive this battle I hope its the bald guy.
Amen, brother. Who knows, maybe he'll join Cale's merry band of adventurers and fortune seekers!
I am rather partial to the old bald fellow myself. He would make an excellent hat for Richard.
Nah Richard would want to keep him alive (or undead) as a snarky butler.
I also like the Cool Bald Guy (CBG? maybe just Guy for short?). I like the fact that he pointed out something odd happening, then had the guts to actually make a snide joke about it to a man I assume to be his supervising officer.
*thumbs up*
Btw, I don't think the fact that the blue elves are paired male/female means they're married, maybe it's just standard battle-formations? I mean, the sons probably have a more important role to play in their culture than merely genes.
*thumbs up*
Btw, I don't think the fact that the blue elves are paired male/female means they're married, maybe it's just standard battle-formations? I mean, the sons probably have a more important role to play in their culture than merely genes.
Whoa, the Legarans do seem in for a pretty nasty beat-up.
Or as we´d say in German:
"Jetz´ gibts Dresche!" >:))
CU
SaM
Or as we´d say in German:
"Jetz´ gibts Dresche!" >:))
CU
SaM
QUOTE (Gathers Scrolls @ Oct 6 2009, 01:28 AM)
I also like the Cool Bald Guy (CBG? maybe just Guy for short?). I like the fact that he pointed out something odd happening, then had the guts to actually make a snide joke about it to a man I assume to be his supervising officer.
*thumbs up*
Btw, I don't think the fact that the blue elves are paired male/female means they're married, maybe it's just standard battle-formations? I mean, the sons probably have a more important role to play in their culture than merely genes.
*thumbs up*
Btw, I don't think the fact that the blue elves are paired male/female means they're married, maybe it's just standard battle-formations? I mean, the sons probably have a more important role to play in their culture than merely genes.
Yeah, the males are the meatshields for the spellcasting women...
QUOTE (Potkanka @ Oct 5 2009, 01:37 PM)
Just a quick question: What do the Sisters do with their hands? Some kind of strange gesture... Are they casting a spell or something like that? And why only Sisters?
Obviously they watched far too much Naruto in their spare time.
In other news...I wonder how fast the Legion will proceed to empty out the camp?
It's also interesting to see how far the illusion stretched, which seems to be only the temple portion, since the statues outside haven't been restored.
I'm being lazy today and not reading back through the last 5 pages...
It seems to me like Mr. Some Dead Bird is trying to take our dear Dick's place as the comic relief on this page. I do like his sarcasm so I'll excuse it this time.
And yay for plot progression!
It seems to me like Mr. Some Dead Bird is trying to take our dear Dick's place as the comic relief on this page. I do like his sarcasm so I'll excuse it this time.
And yay for plot progression!
QUOTE (Jonath @ Oct 5 2009, 04:11 PM)
Nah Richard would want to keep him alive (or undead) as a snarky butler.
Perfect. Maikos is the sadsack manservant/ awesome second in command. And baldy is the snarky butler! A match made in heaven!
QUOTE (Dreamweaver @ Oct 5 2009, 07:34 PM)
Yeah, the males are the meatshields for the spellcasting women...
Thats just cold.
QUOTE (Richie9999 @ Oct 5 2009, 05:31 PM)
Thats just cold.
Yes. But it may not be so inacurate. See the men are armed, the women are not... can you say Tank and DPS partnership? To use gamer terms.
QUOTE (Bag-o-Legion-Ears @ Oct 5 2009, 07:26 PM)
Perfect. Maikos is the sadsack manservant/ awesome second in command. And baldy is the snarky butler! A match made in heaven!
Maikos reminds me a bit of Baldrick. Although Richard is a little nicer than Blackadder is.
Huh, the Sisters gesture reminded me of Buddha... Or the hindu gods.
And yes, they're not completely bald. Kind of like the chinese or if it was mongol practice of shaving your head except for a scalp lock or braid. And both their clothes and weapons looks vaguely indian, particularly the females' dresses. Interesting detail.
And isn't Hare/Rabbit one of the eastern gods (though not one of the hindu ones I think)? Referring to their rabbit statue.
Oh well, we'll see.
Also, the Sons doesn't appear to have worn plate armour at any point. Observe:
Legara legion, heavy infantry, plate armour.
Legara legion, light infantry/scouts, leather armour with metal helmets.
The sons, infantry, what appears to be leather or reinforced silk armour, plus large tower shields and spears.
The sons, infantry, same as above.
The sons, infantry and spellcasters, still no plate armour in sight. The infantry appears to have some kind of fabric of fine mesh over their eyes though.
The sons infantry and spellcasters and on the next pages as well. Still no plate armour.
For some reason the male spellcasters seem to be significantly shorter than the infantry.
And once more still no plate armour at most it appears to be reinforced silk and metal mesh (over the eyes) as before.
"Married" or not, the sons and sisters does appear to operate in pairs or groups centered around the male/female pair.
While 'meatshields' are accurate in a way, I think they're fairly skilled warriors and 'bodyguard' might be more precise. The males are not just supposed to shield the women from physical threats, they're supposed to actively engage them.
Reminds me of the Templar/Warden pairing of the Kyorl'solenurn clan in Drowtales.
And yes, they're not completely bald. Kind of like the chinese or if it was mongol practice of shaving your head except for a scalp lock or braid. And both their clothes and weapons looks vaguely indian, particularly the females' dresses. Interesting detail.
And isn't Hare/Rabbit one of the eastern gods (though not one of the hindu ones I think)? Referring to their rabbit statue.
Oh well, we'll see.
Also, the Sons doesn't appear to have worn plate armour at any point. Observe:
Legara legion, heavy infantry, plate armour.
Legara legion, light infantry/scouts, leather armour with metal helmets.
The sons, infantry, what appears to be leather or reinforced silk armour, plus large tower shields and spears.
The sons, infantry, same as above.
The sons, infantry and spellcasters, still no plate armour in sight. The infantry appears to have some kind of fabric of fine mesh over their eyes though.
The sons infantry and spellcasters and on the next pages as well. Still no plate armour.
For some reason the male spellcasters seem to be significantly shorter than the infantry.
And once more still no plate armour at most it appears to be reinforced silk and metal mesh (over the eyes) as before.
"Married" or not, the sons and sisters does appear to operate in pairs or groups centered around the male/female pair.
While 'meatshields' are accurate in a way, I think they're fairly skilled warriors and 'bodyguard' might be more precise. The males are not just supposed to shield the women from physical threats, they're supposed to actively engage them.
Reminds me of the Templar/Warden pairing of the Kyorl'solenurn clan in Drowtales.
hey, thanks for that skytiger. I had forgot about what the matron said on page 222.
"The Prophecy will hold true."
"The Master will return the Sons."
Meaning the rabbit god could have exiled the sons and changes the daugthers into humans or they all was cursed by the Master or perhaps an enemy and the sons exiled?
"The Prophecy will hold true."
"The Master will return the Sons."
Meaning the rabbit god could have exiled the sons and changes the daugthers into humans or they all was cursed by the Master or perhaps an enemy and the sons exiled?
QUOTE (Dreamweaver @ Oct 6 2009, 03:54 AM)
hey, thanks for that skytiger. I had forgot about what the matron said on page 222.
"The Prophecy will hold true."
"The Master will return the Sons."
Meaning the rabbit god could have exiled the sons and changes the daugthers into humans or they all was cursed by the Master or perhaps an enemy and the sons exiled?
"The Prophecy will hold true."
"The Master will return the Sons."
Meaning the rabbit god could have exiled the sons and changes the daugthers into humans or they all was cursed by the Master or perhaps an enemy and the sons exiled?
I'm curious about who that 'Master' is...
Is it a reference to Cale (but wouldn't it have been 'King' then?) who fetched them, or Felbunny/Archmage who set it all up (sort of)? Or even Richard (who saved Cale from the golems and enabled him to get back with the sons)? Or indeed their deity/mentor the Rabbit Being?
And what about Tah'vraay, who were the one to actually deliver the sons to the temple?
QUOTE (Suntiger @ Oct 5 2009, 09:12 PM)
I'm curious about who that 'Master' is...
Is it a reference to Cale (but wouldn't it have been 'King' then?) who fetched them, or Felbunny/Archmage who set it all up (sort of)? Or even Richard (who saved Cale from the golems and enabled him to get back with the sons)? Or indeed their deity/mentor the Rabbit Being?
And what about Tah'vraay, who were the one to actually deliver the sons to the temple?
Is it a reference to Cale (but wouldn't it have been 'King' then?) who fetched them, or Felbunny/Archmage who set it all up (sort of)? Or even Richard (who saved Cale from the golems and enabled him to get back with the sons)? Or indeed their deity/mentor the Rabbit Being?
And what about Tah'vraay, who were the one to actually deliver the sons to the temple?
It's definitely the Archmage
Perhaps the Master is simply their deity? Not every prophecy has to relate directly to Cale; I'm not even sure if the full prophecy the Matron was referring to has been stated in its entirety.
(Actually, it would be kind of refreshing to see a prophecy, riddle, or song inside this kind of fantasy / quest story . . . that has absolutely nothing to do with any prophecy, the Heroic Band, the Evil Overlord's weakness, or the Chosen One.
)
Just wild guessing here: I'm beginning to wonder what will happen when the Matron & Co. meet Felbunny / Archmage. I think it's a toss-up whether or not they'd recognize him, or become royally pissed because he is impersonating their god for his own ends.
(Actually, it would be kind of refreshing to see a prophecy, riddle, or song inside this kind of fantasy / quest story . . . that has absolutely nothing to do with any prophecy, the Heroic Band, the Evil Overlord's weakness, or the Chosen One.
)Just wild guessing here: I'm beginning to wonder what will happen when the Matron & Co. meet Felbunny / Archmage. I think it's a toss-up whether or not they'd recognize him, or become royally pissed because he is impersonating their god for his own ends.
what a pretty moment
QUOTE (Ariah @ Oct 5 2009, 08:01 PM)
It seems to me like Mr. Some Dead Bird is trying to take our dear Dick's place as the comic relief on this page. I do like his sarcasm so I'll excuse it this time.
Nobody can take Dick's place; though CBG might make Matron minion.
QUOTE (Jonath @ Oct 5 2009, 10:32 PM)
It's definitely the Archmage
Yea, definitely the Archbunny.
QUOTE (Jonath @ Oct 5 2009, 07:32 PM)
It's definitely the Archmage
I agree. That fits to an T. Really. I can't see how it would be anybody else... cept Richard. Because referring to him as master can help increase survival odds.
I propose that the top of the temple flowers open and the bunny statue shows up.
Or something. I don't know. I have no idea why the females are now blue, but they do look rather shiny paired in formation like that.
Or something. I don't know. I have no idea why the females are now blue, but they do look rather shiny paired in formation like that.
Huh, I just realized, those two are the mooks who were with old A-whosit's pops way back when.
QUOTE (Rurik @ Oct 6 2009, 06:29 AM)
Huh, I just realized, those two are the mooks who were with old A-whosit's pops way back when.
You're right! damn, so random unnamed characters can survive to show up again in this comic...
It seems strange that the Captain would be second in command after the Commander. He looks pretty young to be a second in Command of so many Legions.
Well he could just be a genius, he may not have wisdom, but that's why you'd typically pair the really smart guy with the really wise guy.
He doesn't look or act smart. I'd wager his dad is friends with the King.
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