The Bunny
Sep 29 2009, 06:03 AM
QUOTE (Bag-o-Legion-Ears @ Sep 29 2009, 01:12 AM)

Pella would make an excellent royal concubine/jester.
concubine/jester is a bad multiclass. Laughing at someone jumping around in a funny suit and trying to actually create an erotic atmosphere don't go along too well.
Dayon
Sep 29 2009, 06:50 AM
QUOTE (Leu @ Sep 24 2009, 03:47 PM)

HOT ELF ON Orc MAGE ACTION.
Someone had to say it. Benny IS a Orc, right?
I think she's a troll. LFG seems to have its roots in World of Warcraft, so that's what gives me that idea.
I seriously hope they just move on from this point, and that they have their boink and pick up and go on. I was afraid they'd hook up, 'cos I think it'd really set the story of this strip back.
For the record, I liked it when it was funnier and Cale was still goofy.
Devin Austra
Sep 29 2009, 10:13 AM
Keep it on topic, folks, or it's getting closed.
It's sad when advanced members continue to derail multiple topics even after one or more warnings while most of the new users have no problem staying on topic. Seriously, some long suspensions are going to be handed out if people don't keep topics on track; derailment of topics has occurred far too much since the last two comic pages were posted.
Head over to General Discussion and the Jibber Jabber thread if you want to chitchat and wander off topic.
Jonath
Sep 29 2009, 01:55 PM
I wonder how many people don't like the pairing because they would rather have Cale/Richard.
Bag-o-Legion-Ears
Sep 30 2009, 12:09 AM
QUOTE (Jonath @ Sep 29 2009, 06:55 AM)

I wonder how many people don't like the pairing because they would rather have Cale/Richard.
RICHARD IS MINE!!!
I mainly don't like the Cale/Benny Pairing because it detracts from having more Ricahrd in our lives
Fel Kitteh
Sep 30 2009, 12:40 AM
I thought something lke this would happen. And it had to be with Cale cause Richard would slaughter anybody who loved him. As for it being with Benny, shes probably a better match for Cale then Pella. i dont know
Jonath
Sep 30 2009, 02:03 AM
QUOTE (Bag-o-Legion-Ears @ Sep 29 2009, 07:09 PM)

RICHARD IS MINE!!!
I mainly don't like the Cale/Benny Pairing because it detracts from having more Ricahrd in our lives

You're hopeless sir.
Rurik
Sep 30 2009, 02:30 AM
QUOTE (Dayon @ Sep 29 2009, 01:50 AM)

I think she's a troll. LFG seems to have its roots in World of Warcraft, so that's what gives me that idea.
I seriously hope they just move on from this point, and that they have their boink and pick up and go on. I was afraid they'd hook up, 'cos I think it'd really set the story of this strip back.
For the record, I liked it when it was funnier and Cale was still goofy.
LFG has it's roots in fantasy in general, not any one particular setting or world.
Jonath
Sep 30 2009, 01:46 PM
QUOTE (Rurik @ Sep 29 2009, 09:30 PM)

LFG has it's roots in fantasy in general, not any one particular setting or world.
True but I'd say it owes its genesis to WoW and many of its elements to DnD.
Q..
Sep 30 2009, 03:38 PM
I chose the other ( Explain ) option, so here's my thinking on how this relationship would go :
First, good pairing.
To the person saying there wasn't any hints I disagree, and to the argument there was nothing that you wouldn't do with a friend, I disagree again ; you never been into lifethreatening situations like those did.
Here we are not talking about teenage hormones.
Life threatening situations can ( and will ) build a lot of adrenaline that in turn will produce it's share of hormones that will make you more attracted/attractive to the the other sex. On top of the fact that there is true bonding going there, you learn to know people as they are when their life is about to end, no more masks, you know them for who they really are.
Once again, I don't think a lot of people saw their friends make very hard decisions in horrible situations and be : that person is a good person. ( I just think anyone can be good when everything is going well, but it's when nothing is good that people show their true face )
All that to say, sexual tension is real and may have been with those two characters for awhile.
But those two have shown many times that they can keep their head cool and not let feelings always dictate how they act.
Add to that that sometimes, it takes a while to decode sexual tension. You feel uneasy, but you brush it away ; blame it on something else, ignore it or even counter attack with sarcasm.
And one day you wake up and realise ; all those times I was uneasy, I was with him/her, i like him, i care for him, I want him close.
Especially in times of distress, where yourself needs comfort, but doesn't seem to find it in those who gave you comfort before ( like the uncle ) and you realise, that you'd just want "him" to be with you.
Even in real life relationships can build themselves off screen.
How many friend guy/girl friends were just that, friends, until one day, for some reason ( be it they had a particular good day, they had a little too much to drink ) they jump one each other because suddenly they realise how good they fell when the other is there, and it just happens overnight ; we've been friends for years, and on night, it just happened, we were watching comics like usually we do saturday night, and suddenly, sexual tension rises, kisses and more, and since then, they've been together.
SO.
All that to say that I think it makes sense, even without the hints, even if it came out of the blue, beside the fact that they are not teenagers. Spend so much time, bonding in the harshest of situations, finding someone you can trust and that you admire, and that on top, is physically attractive, something is bound to happen. Yeah, you might not show it since you have an orc/troll ego ( and other guy is focused on the mission at hand so tries not to feel at all if he can help it )
As some have said, it's the couple that makes the make sense ; it makes sense, but it's still unexpected. It's also two characters that do no hog the attention, that won't fall into any sorts of : I love you, no I love you more, no I love you more ! you hang up, no you hang up kinda of crap.
They complement each other, and understand each other.
Not like Pella et Cale, they have a connection, but they don't understand each other as well as Bonny and Clyde.
Going for that, it leaves room for a relationship evolving without taking over the story, because both of them are focused on the mission, they know what's at steak ( haha, I said steak, mooo ) and won't put their relationship above the rest, neither of them would want the other to walk away of their path for them, because that would take away part of what they admire about the other ; Benny would be disappointed ( even feel betrayed ) if Cale would choose to let down everyone just for her sake )
And that's how I feel it will go at first, subtle, not much about it, keeping their head cool, they just share bed and advice ( maybe Cale will open up more on his feelings and finally have someone he can share his burden with )
But then, much later on, something will happen and their relationship will take over the arc for a little while, (benny kidnapped ? benny forced to do something against her will ?) It will put Cale in a difficult position where he'll either ;
1- Keep his head cool, decide that Benny knew the risks, and won't help her at first, but then Benny's uncle will beat some sense into him ; it's okay to feel sometimes, go get her, we'll cover in the meantime, just be fast
2- Will decide to stop everything to go to Benny, where she'll either be relieved or disappointed ( probably a trap ? )
Wether it's ensuing this situation or not, at somepoint they will have to make a decision for the greater good, that doesn't involve them being together ( she becomes queen of the trolls but can't have them live with humans, so they have to part since their king and queens of two too different species ?, she saw how he risked his life and the mission to save her life, and decides she can't be responsible if Cale dies because of her since so many count on Cale, so she prefers to brake up to be sure Cale doesn't risk everything again for her )
But then again, maybe Cale took enough pain on himself for the sake of others, so at least, in the end, he'll keep the woman ( even if they brake up for a while )
it's all right to keep a little happiness for yourself.
so there you
that was my take
See, richard is nowhere in there ; soon the comic relief won't be that comical anymore but has nothing to do with cale and Benny ( except if he's the one to bring the tough decision ; richard : bla bla bla ! Benny : I know it's tough, but he's right... Cale : if you think he's right, go with him, but I can't walk this path, BYE ! )
Q.
Rurik
Sep 30 2009, 06:47 PM
QUOTE (Jonath @ Sep 30 2009, 08:46 AM)

True but I'd say it owes its genesis to WoW and many of its elements to DnD.
Warcraft, not WoW, always remember that the world of Warcraft existed years before the game of the same name ever did, (and frankly the original Warcraft games were infinitely superior) which of course in turn owes it's existence to D&D, the original RPG, and D&D owes it's existence to the ancient monomyth from which pretty much all stories ever written about a hero has sprung. Hrm, which makes me wonder, are we at the Woman as Temptress stage of the monomyth now?
finkle
Sep 30 2009, 07:00 PM
I'm gonna say that Benny turns out to be an opposing force against Cale for one reason or another. That's how everything is supposed to happen as foretold by the beholder. However, the two will unknowingly attempt to change this, causing Pella to have to step in and right it because she has some connection to the beholder. (and other guy who I can't exactly remember who he is at the moment >.<)
Rurik
Sep 30 2009, 07:06 PM
It's possible for her to be an opposing force without being an opposing force. Love is a highly irrational state of mind, the... well I guess Cale probably considers her to be beautiful, or he's blind, either way the hero's beautiful love is captured by the enemy, or otherwise placed in harms way, and he stupidly throws away his quest to save the world in order to protect her, made all the more stupid because she's just going to die along with him and everyone else when the ultimate evil unleashes the eldritch abomination which in turn blows up the whole of the multi-verse.
8BitsOfDeath
Sep 30 2009, 09:13 PM
Well I guess it was too be expected... Ryan's other comic has relationship development, it was only a matter of time for this one. quite frankly I'm surprised it took so long. but I doubt it'll go very far, like you said it's likely their relationship will be used against them and either A: almost kill everyone, or B: cause Cale to break it off "for the good of the quest". speaking of questing, why does he want that angry sword again?
Rurik
Sep 30 2009, 09:24 PM
To impress the trorc, she needed it to pay off old whatshisface way back in volume one, which I guess doesn't matter any more since they're officially at war with the kingdom he serves, so no real use in trying to settle debts with him.
Jonath
Oct 1 2009, 01:12 AM
QUOTE (Rurik @ Sep 30 2009, 04:24 PM)

To impress the trorc, she needed it to pay off old whatshisface way back in volume one, which I guess doesn't matter any more since they're officially at war with the kingdom he serves, so no real use in trying to settle debts with him.
She's not a trorc, there's been no indication that there's orcs in LFG and Benny certainly isn't one. Just call her a half-troll or a thing.
Rurik
Oct 1 2009, 01:26 AM
Trorc, combination of troll and orc, that way whether she's part troll or part orc it's covered. Somehow I doubt Sohmer will ever actually tell us though, I have a feeling her parentage is the LFG version of Vaarsuvius' gender.
Jonath
Oct 1 2009, 01:26 AM
QUOTE (Rurik @ Sep 30 2009, 08:26 PM)

Trorc, combination of troll and orc, that way whether she's part troll or part orc it's covered.
There's no Orc in her, you just think there is because she's green.
Rurik
Oct 1 2009, 01:28 AM
For all we know there is, we don't know what she is, and apart from her fang and colour there's really no proof of any theory, so orc, troll, frog, any guess is equally as valid as the next.
Jonath
Oct 1 2009, 01:28 AM
QUOTE (Rurik @ Sep 30 2009, 08:28 PM)

For all we know there is, we don't know what she is, and apart from her fang and colour there's really no proof of any theory, so orc, troll, frog, any guess is equally as valid as the next.
From now on she's a Bennysaur.
Bag-o-Legion-Ears
Oct 1 2009, 02:21 AM
Damn it guys she is the lovechild of Kermit and a Teenage mutant Ninja Turtle.
zdhusn
Oct 1 2009, 03:34 AM
QUOTE (Bag-o-Legion-Ears @ Oct 1 2009, 07:51 AM)

Damn it guys she is the lovechild of Kermit and a Teenage mutant Ninja Turtle.
Which one? The stoner, the nerd, the prick or the one with anger-management issues?
Rurik
Oct 1 2009, 03:37 AM
Clearly Raphael, she wears red.
Peanuts
Oct 1 2009, 03:39 AM
QUOTE (zdhusn @ Sep 30 2009, 08:34 PM)

Which one? The stoner, the nerd, the prick or the one with anger-management issues?
Raphael and Leonardo were both pricks with anger-management issues.
Oscar Hammerfist
Oct 1 2009, 03:40 AM
Back on topic. I lost one Shipping Thread today, I AM NOT LOSING ANOTHER.
Rurik
Oct 1 2009, 03:42 AM
Eh? What does the trorc bedding the ambiguously gendered elf have to do with a thread dedicated to mailing goods?
Oscar Hammerfist
Oct 1 2009, 03:46 AM
Relationshipping.
Its fanboy speak
Rurik
Oct 1 2009, 03:46 AM
Why not just say coupling, or pairing?
Oscar Hammerfist
Oct 1 2009, 03:48 AM
because '
shipping' is whats on tvtropes
prepare to lose 5 hours of your life.
Bag-o-Legion-Ears
Oct 1 2009, 03:50 AM
QUOTE (Oscar Hammerfist @ Sep 30 2009, 08:48 PM)

because '
shipping' is whats on tvtropes
prepare to lose 5 hours of your life.
He really didn't deserve that man. No one does.
Anyway. Do you think the soon-to-be-released page will be more Benny/Cale. Or something else.
Rurik
Oct 1 2009, 03:52 AM
Until it's in Webster's it's still a stupid term.
Oscar Hammerfist
Oct 1 2009, 03:59 AM
GODDAMN IT
just linking to it to put in the hyperlink and I'M trapped.
Rurik
Oct 1 2009, 04:04 AM
That'll learn you to try to trap a troper who's already walked the length and width of the wiki twice over and punched out Cthulhu on the way.
zdhusn
Oct 1 2009, 04:07 AM
Oscar Hammerfist
Oct 1 2009, 04:14 AM
QUOTE (zdhusn @ Sep 30 2009, 11:07 PM)

DAMN YOOOUUUUU.
I was just crawling out.
Zana
Oct 1 2009, 06:26 AM
It might not be romance at all, guys. She's a girl, he's a guy, the body has wants...sex is generally good for you too, so that could be all Benny is going for. A little pick me up.
Personally, though, I won't be bothered if they become a couple. Even if, up til this point, I've been suspecting some Richard/Cale. x'D It is interesting to notice that Cale gets all upset about Pella killing innocents for their cause, when Richard does it all the time for his own pleasure.
Bag-o-Legion-Ears
Oct 1 2009, 06:28 AM
QUOTE (Zana @ Sep 30 2009, 11:26 PM)

It might not be romance at all, guys. She's a girl, he's a guy, the body has wants...sex is generally good for you too, so that could be all Benny is going for. A little pick me up.
Personally, though, I won't be bothered if they become a couple. Even if, up til this point, I've been suspecting some Richard/Cale. x'D It is interesting to notice that Cale gets all upset about Pella killing innocents for their cause, when Richard does it all the time for his own pleasure.
WEll. Unless you get the herpes, or the aids, or the crabs... exc.
besides. Cale doesn't seem like a one night stand fellow.
Rurik
Oct 1 2009, 07:16 AM
QUOTE (Bag-o-Legion-Ears @ Oct 1 2009, 01:28 AM)

WEll. Unless you get the herpes, or the aids, or the crabs... exc.
besides. Cale doesn't seem like a one night stand fellow.
Don't forget parasites, BIG parasites, ones that can keep leeching off of you for years even though they exit your body after a bit under a year.
Devin Austra
Oct 1 2009, 08:01 AM
This is the last derailed topic that will just be closed.
I've been nice about it until now.
I've tried numerous verbal warnings and closing topics, and folks aren't getting the idea.
Next time, I'm just handing out suspensions. Long ones for those of you who've been warned more than once. There've been more than enough "stay on topic" notices and far too many good topics closed due to derailment because people won't pay attention to what they're posting and what topic they're posting it in.
Don't post in the comic forum just for the sake of posting and killing time; that's what General Discussion and the Jibber Jabber thread are for.
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