Actually, the way I see it is this falling out is one of the strongest hints of romantic interest I've seen involving Cale, partly because he's so hurt that she can't be trusted and heartbreak could be an undertone here. Besides, you always have to have an occasional fight for the relationship to work.

But, as much as it is to make theories, I'm pretty sure that romance has little, if any, place in LFG.



I KNOW, isn't it delicious??

All i'm gonna say is that this debate seemed to be going in circles and i'm just glad that it's broken free of that.

That is true, if this were a crappy "steamy" romance tract Pella would slap Cale and they'd start making out angrily.

I don't know, Cale kicking boots with Pella? He's an elf. Does he even know how to kick boots with the opposite gender?
That matter remains worth debating I believe...

Whatever his reasons for throwing a fit at her, he's miscalculating. Even if Pella *was* an evil pawn, which we know she isn't (at least intentionally), the old rule prevails: keep your friends close to you and your foes even closer. By letting her on the fact that he's unmasked her little "Douze Salopards" sabotage operation, he's weakening his hand in the game.
Is he hurt? Most likely. Not necessarily in a "my heart is bleeding to see that you killed innocents" way, by the way. Cale is evolving into a nasty piece of work and he doesn't even know it. Not too long ago, he was indeed "looking for group". Then he became the awkward goody-two-shoes type, then a real part of the pack, and now? He's becoming slowly but surely a king. He's already *aknowledged* as one by many of his companions. He knows that, and I think he's getting a taste for it. Don't all leaders, beyond a certain point, get paranoid around their "friends"? He's mad that he can't trust Pella, right... or maybe because he realizes that she can't be manipulated by him as he pleases. She's a joker in the game, and Cale doesn't know who's holding that card. Period.
Als, Pella is hot. There, I said it!
Dwarvy hotness set aside, come on... I'd like to adress the ladies in the forum: had you been Pella, working in the shadows to protect the pointy-eared emo, carving through flesh and steel to get to him in that underground jail with just musical aid, killing gnomes against your principles, all of that for the aforementioned elfic git, wouldn't you be hurt by his reaction to a couple corpses? As it's been pointed out, Ricky is a genocide on legs. Pella merely tipped the balance a bit.
I don't know if Cale is reflecting on his own "I killed a kid" case to overreact like this, but his outburst and "I was trying to figure out if you were trying to kill me too" state of mind is a fine example of misplaced self-righteousness.

You're looking too deeply. Cale's just pissed and he's taking it out on Pella. No one's called him a King to his face he doesn't know anything about that all he knows is he's building a nation.

Maybe he's looking too far into it. Maybe not. But I think anyone who says he's just yelling at her for some nonexistant or stupid reason aren't looking far enough, just taking it at face value.

And as for the part of building a nation, who does that without some kind of kingship in mind. You don't bring together all manner of people and races without being a part of the power structure.

Of course he has a reason, he feels betrayed by her. It's not the act that disgusts him, its the fact she did it. I'm sure if the other group members had done it he would have accepted it but he saw her as a more trustworthy person. I don't have much of a problem with the page except for the Richard comment which is still bugging the hell out of me. Its something of a wallbanger.
I doubt Cale's the type though to let that go to his head. He's a nice humble guy he wouldn't start acting like "Oh hell yeah I'm about to be a King! Y'all bitches better do what I say!"

Initial reaction to the comic? Wanting to see Pella b-slap Cale, then kick him in the balls and walk away for being an @#$. She deserves so much better than that whiny little temper tantrum and threats. She has risked her own life how many times for him now? Much like the previous poster mentioned, how many guards did she take out in the dungeons to get him free?

And having just read though the 6 pages here on the forums and feel the need to point out something that no one else seems to have yet...at least here.

Aren't the diggers Dwarves i.e. Pella's people?

If so, then Cale is ok with, nay, expects Pella to kill her own kin/kind for the sake of other people to which she has no known attachment?

Not to mention his plan of cleaning out the mountain if they had just taken more time. Weak.

Seems all in all that Cale is taking out his frustrations with someone/thing else out on an easy target. A target that up to this point has done nothing but pull his hindquarters out of the fire time and again.



Enough babbling, first post (ever) on the forums over.

-G-


P.S.
Oh and as for the comment a few pages back about Richard never having killed an ally?

Wrong.

He kills "innocent" allies numerous times. Amongst the gnomes alone he turns one into a hand puppet and pushes another into the lava.

Also, he may be upset to see others becoming as corrupt as he, himself, thinks he is? Can we say, 'misplaced anger'?


PS: About Pella killing her 'kin': these are the antagonistic descendants of those she would consider her kin, a dark mirror of those she knew growing up. I think she is almost definitely saddened by what her culture has become, but it obviously isn't enough to stop her from waging war . . . . so far. For all we know, she may feel, in a way, morally obligated to oppose them.

To be fair the first time the Gnomes weren't their allies yet but yeah I've already mentioned how its crap that Richard "doesn't leave evidence"
And no I don't think Pella killed a Black Dwarf, she made a point of that.

This page is frustrating. Cale is frustrating. Every rationalization I create for Cale's defense seems to bring me back into full circle of thinking he's in the wrong to react that way. I get that its supposed to be a moment of tension - Cale showing that he doesn't know who he can trust in this world which seems to be full of evil, maybe even to the point of not even trusting himself. If he wants to be a leader, he's got to show that his word is final - none of this "he" stuff. That's all well and good, but Cale's comparison of Pella to Richard makes me want to scream that he's being a hypocrite.

"At least when Richard kills, he's smart enough to incinerate the evidence."
"Damn right!"

Why is he making that comparison? And how does he figure that's true? Is he trying to say that she's worse than Richard? And if so, why? How? Was it just a nonsensical humorous jab? I give Sohmar more credit than that, so I don't think so. Yes, Cale's angry and disappointed that he can't trust Pella, or maybe his anger is misplaced and he's taking out on her - understandable. It just seems unfair of Cale to make that comparison. It makes his entire speech seem hypocritical - I've read the entire thing without that panel, and his argument actually seems sound. I'd actually be on his side, if not for that panel. Am I not supposed to side with him?

I don't understand why that bit of dialogue was written in. I feel like I'm missing the obvious need for it, and its frustrating not to know what it could be.

Could someone tell me what I'm missing?

Maybe Cale isn't in the right in this argument. Maybe he didn't think his argument through because he was upset. Maybe he, like a real person in a real argument, said something in order to hurt the other in the heat of the moment in a way that he may regret later.

They can't be perfect people.

I considered that, its the best argument for the panel I have, but why did Richard agree? Just to be a jerk? I would think Richard would want thorough clarification that if he killed someone, he doesn't need to hide it as though he's ashamed or doesn't want Cale to know. Richard tends to do what he pleases, whether others approve or not - Cale especially. I guess he could have a liking for burning bodies, but he usually seems perfectly content to let them lay about.

It does seem that comment was poorly thought out. Although if you're looking for the point in him saying that it's just to point out that she left evidence of what she did and that was how he knew of it. I doubt he's that angry about her leaving evidence, though it could strain their alliance with the gnomes if they saw it. Might also be that he wishes she hadn't left evidence so he wouldn't know of it and wouldn't feel so betrayed.

And while I don't agree with Cale's actions, I do think they are completely understandable considering everything.

Ok I was late reading the last two pages so I didn't bother to read through 6 pages cause it's late and I'm tired, so if I'm repeating stuff, well... too bad.

Cale needs to chill out. But of course he has absolutely no way of knowing what her purpose is and that she's only doing what she has to do to keep past mistakes from repeating themselves. At any rate, I suspect Cale will find out sooner or later and end up apologizing and thanking her etc... though I think that it may involve some close calls between them before it comes to the happy part. It's kinda cliche yeah, so it's pretty much to be expected unless Sohmer decides to kill off Pella, but then again he could end up doing that by having her die to save Cale's life... which I'm really suspecting that's actually what will happen before the teary apology and thanks from Cale... but anyways, I hope I'm wrong cause I personally think Pella rocks.

On another subject:



A red dawn rose in my small town this morning.






omfg what do i do. D:

XD

I always thought those look pretty cool. Though my mom said it's called a Blood Moon and that a long time ago some civilizations (i forget which) used to use it as an excuse for human sacrifices.

I have the most accurate reason for that little fight.

It's Cale's time of the month.

Oh, verryyy funny!

Probably.

Has anyone mentioned the fact that during the battle all of the Bloodrage responded to the tower collapsing? Gnomes were not the only peoples who were involved in the battle with the collapse of the tower. So any Bloodrage who were harmed or killed in battle, could essentially be Pella's fault.

Cale had already began to work out a plan with Richard to move the Gnomes out of the mountain, which began with the explosion of the volcano. What Pella did, essentially, was announce to Cale that she would not follow him as a leader. Instead she followed the choice of her own choosing, and with out discussing it with anyone, preceded with her own plans. If I were Cale, then yes, I would be extremely upset, and worried.

Cale is now responsible not only for the villagers that he has already, left back at Kethnica, he is now the leader of the Bloodrage. He must ensure that his people, who are very few in numbers now, make it to safety. He was already in discussion with the Gnomes to get them to agree with coming under his wing, and with Pella pulling the stunt she did, she may very well have ruined all discussion. Sure, the gnomes are with them for now, but only because they are trying to get away from a place of obvious death. If I were one of the gnome leaders, I would throw the tower collapse and the death of the fallen back in Cale's face when discussions resume.

On the argument with Richard sticking with Cale (or vice versa): Cale has actually curbed Richard's killing sprees. Think of how many times Richard has started to head to someplace and Cale has caught him and distracted him. Cale may not be able to stop ALL of Richard's murderous tendency, but he has put a noticeable dent in them.

Anyhow, late ramblings, that I doubt anyone will read, what with the new comic already out

(I felt my interest in LDG wane for many months now, due for the most part to the increasing silliness of Richard's antics, but this page made me come back to the forums to post.)

Cale sure has grown up. Scary.
Great page.

Not only did Pella act behind Cale's back, she admitted to working for someone else, making her dangerously close to being a traitor. Ouch.

Did nobody else notice that Cale, for the first time, has green eyes in this one? At least I've never seen him with any eye color earlier (maybe I'm just not paying attention). Is this another sign of his inner darkness?

He's been shown with green eyes at least once before.