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Comic 231

Aelloon has a Dagger of Truth?

EDIT: link was broken.. laugh.gif
CapnChaos
The sisters retreated, and therefore, krunch could have escaped too.
Indignant
Quite easily, in fact.
Nathael
QUOTE(CapnChaos @ Mar 2 2009, 06:13 AM) [snapback]386034[/snapback]
The sisters retreated, and therefore, krunch could have escaped too.


I expect more some kind of magic ritual thingy to return to an earlier state of time...

Paper_Dick
Well...all I have to say is....what a dick!
Devin Austra
Guess I can't refer to Aelloon as a complete bastard anymore...
Gingerplague
is Aelloon wearing a one-sie? O.o
Danny J
QUOTE(Gingerplague @ Mar 2 2009, 12:20 AM) [snapback]386043[/snapback]
is Aelloon wearing a one-sie? O.o



AN EVIL ONE-SIE!

Also anyone see the resemblance of Aelloon in his silhouette to the silhouette of the Vulii warlord in that one comic a while back>
Rombom
If Aelleon is a General, and his father is a Commander, then who is the King?
Chuint
Dude...

He looks a little like Batman.
Needs a cape, though.
Escariot
Watch out for the secret exit of the temple through the mountainside from behind the giant marble bunny.
cHr0n0sPh3r3
I get the impression that the Commander was infact unwilling to destroy the northerns, and it was Aelloon who ordered the invasion...
Michi
Hmm interesting...I sense great displeasure there ;P
SilverKnight
Okay, why does Aelloon look like Magneto?

I'm just curious.
Gwynasyn
QUOTE(Nathael @ Mar 2 2009, 12:20 AM) [snapback]386038[/snapback]
I expect more some kind of magic ritual thingy to return to an earlier state of time...


Thats what I thought too, but now that we have news of some survivors I'm not so sure.
Lunaya
Okay, sooo:

Chief Bloodrage is Krunch's father,

the Matron is Captain Vraay's mother,

the Dwarven general is Pella's father,

the King of Gamlon is (probably) Tavor's father,

Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker's father,

And now, the Legarion general is Aelloon's father.

huh.gif Just so long as I have it straight.
Blackshroud
All I can say to this one is "eh". A nice little plot reveal, but I'm waiting to see what the heroes plan to do.
The Traveler
QUOTE(Danny J @ Mar 2 2009, 12:26 AM) [snapback]386045[/snapback]
AN EVIL ONE-SIE!

Also anyone see the resemblance of Aelloon in his silhouette to the silhouette of the Vulii warlord in that one comic a while back>

its just the Tri-point on the helmet, which could be explained as a tradition to generals or very high ranking leaders of any kind


QUOTE(Lunaya @ Mar 2 2009, 01:30 AM) [snapback]386077[/snapback]
Okay, sooo:

Chief Bloodrage is Krunch's father,

the Matron is Captain Vraay's mother,

the Dwarven general is Pella's father,

the King of Gamlon is (probably) Tavor's father,

Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker's father,

And now, the Legarion general is Aelloon's father.

huh.gif Just so long as I have it straight.


nah the main reason people think Tavor is the son of the Gamlon king is his line about his dead family, with his main point on sister, they assume that the little girl from Gamlon the princess is his sister even though at Gamlon he said his sister was already dead, and if he where the king's son he would have said "a promise to my dieing father" not "a promise to a dieing king"
and its Commander Kickass
Karrade Krise
I sense a lot of Father-Son related issues in that last panel...
DonutGuard
QUOTE(Lunaya @ Mar 2 2009, 01:30 AM) [snapback]386077[/snapback]
Okay, sooo:

Chief Bloodrage is Krunch's father,

the Matron is Captain Vraay's mother,

the Dwarven general is Pella's father,

the King of Gamlon is (probably) Tavor's father, <---- Nah, the King of Gamlon was just the Shriek's father

Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker's father,

And now, the Legarion general is Aelloon's father.

huh.gif Just so long as I have it straight.


Considering that Tavor didn't die in past Kethenecia, it's entirely possible that he might be Cale's father. Just a thought. (Unlikely though)

Either that or Cale is some sort of immaculate birth since he does seem to be the savior of the world in the comic. Or... Richard is his father... (though I highly doubt that since I would say he was probably human before he became undead)


What's most likely is that we've yet to, and likely will never see or learn anything about Cale prior to his meeting Richard. Personally I would prefer that anyway.
BlackFrost
were assuming that Aelloon is the commanders child, I dont think so, I think that is used because he has known him for a rather long time and is kinda used as respectful.

also it looks like the commander has a richard gem on his vest, I just noticed that it looks like the sisters have richard like gems on the walls of there bunny cave smile.gif
Darkhawk
Am I the only one that things the commander has half-elf looking ears on this page? The silhouette of the general reminded me of the leader of the Vulli...then when they had that full father son moment, and how he is trying to turn it into an empire and everything...well...does anyone else think that his ears look sort of pointed? I mean, they do look sort of elvish, and less human than normal, right?

I was going to look at Aelloon's ears to see if his were weird too, but his helmet covers his ears. Thoughts anyone, or am I just being more tired and silly than normal?
Pinguin333
I'm confused by the first panel. The commander says he already buried his best friend, who does he mean? If he means the bloodrage king why in the world did he send those black dwarves to the heart of the city and burn it down to the ground when he thought he'd won the day? If they were best friends he wouldn't do that, but if the friendship was broken because the north set up a defence he wouldn't be sorry about it afterwards.
On the other hand it could imply that the matron is a friend of him aswell and that he means "I already buried one friend and do not want to have to bury more" and therefore doesn't attack the sisters. Quite confusing blink.gif


On a completely different matter, did anyone else notice the facial expression of the soldier in the second panel? It looks like he has a spider crawling up his trouser leg and is about to run around and scream like a girl laugh.gif
The Bunny
ookaay, so commander kickass is Aellons daddy... that explains some of his kickassery.
on the other hand he seems to have some kind of moral standards that his son clearly lacks...
Graeystone
QUOTE(Pinguin333 @ Mar 2 2009, 04:55 AM) [snapback]386110[/snapback]
I'm confused by the first panel. The commander says he already buried his best friend, who does he mean? If he means the bloodrage king why in the world did he send those black dwarves to the heart of the city and burn it down to the ground when he thought he'd won the day? If they were best friends he wouldn't do that, but if the friendship was broken because the north set up a defence he wouldn't be sorry about it afterwards.
On the other hand it could imply that the matron is a friend of him aswell and that he means "I already buried one friend and do not want to have to bury more" and therefore doesn't attack the sisters. Quite confusing blink.gif
On a completely different matter, did anyone else notice the facial expression of the soldier in the second panel? It looks like he has a spider crawling up his trouser leg and is about to run around and scream like a girl laugh.gif


Orders are orders including the 'burning down the enemy's city'. Alelloon looks to be a real baddy though. Then there is the dragon on the final panel. History showed dragons practically owned the realm. Wouldn't be surprised if some surviving dragons wanted it all back in some way.
Max360
no one is asking the right question:
Who the fuck is the commander's oldest friend?
The Bunny
QUOTE(Max360 @ Mar 2 2009, 11:52 AM) [snapback]386114[/snapback]
no one is asking the right question:
Who the fuck is the commander's oldest friend?


daddy bloodrage. see here http://www.lfgcomic.com/page/202
dmh3000
The commander did what he could to ease the Bloodrage. But it seems it was not enough.

I like seeing a baddie with a conscience. It makes them more realistic, rather than "EVIL! EVIL! EVIL!"
Kunama
I can't help but think Aelloon looks like a bear. Or a gorilla. Or some sort of humanoid with far too much hair.

As for the link to 202, it might be possible that there were prisoners.
Kerrah
QUOTE(Lunaya @ Mar 2 2009, 08:30 AM) [snapback]386077[/snapback]
Okay, sooo:

Chief Bloodrage is Krunch's father,

the Matron is Captain Vraay's mother,

the Dwarven general is Pella's father,

the King of Gamlon is (probably) Tavor's father,

Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker's father,

And now, the Legarion general is Aelloon's father.

huh.gif Just so long as I have it straight.

Yeah, it's like EVERY CHARACTER must have parents. How weird is that?
malkavian
QUOTE(Lunaya @ Mar 2 2009, 01:30 AM) [snapback]386077[/snapback]
Okay, sooo:

Chief Bloodrage is Krunch's father,

the Matron is Captain Vraay's mother,

the Dwarven general is Pella's father,

the King of Gamlon is{and or } Tavor's or{son},

And now, the Legarion general son of tevor's son

Aelloon's is the son of the general...

huh.gif Just so long as I have it straight.


which would mean that tevor is alive and that means some really bad pay back
Gathers Scrolls
The commander has a red gem, Alloon has a yellow one. I think these are marks of rank, like military bars or pips. They remind me of the diamond-shaped military/jurisdiction diamond-shapes in the book Poison Study by Maria Snyder.
ryannayr417
QUOTE(malkavian @ Mar 2 2009, 10:32 AM) [snapback]386134[/snapback]
which would mean that tevor is alive and that means some really bad pay back


What did you do to Lunaya's post? 1) She would never ever misspell Tavor and 2) the quote above you is completely different. Just, what? It isn't nice to edit a quote without saying so in your post, that is how miscommunications start.
Dragonmeister
QUOTE(Lunaya @ Mar 2 2009, 01:30 AM) [snapback]386077[/snapback]
Okay, sooo:

Chief Bloodrage is Krunch's father,

the Matron is Captain Vraay's mother,

the Dwarven general is Pella's father,

the King of Gamlon is (probably) Tavor's father,

Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker's father,

And now, the Legarion general is Aelloon's father.

huh.gif Just so long as I have it straight.


Don't forget, Cale is Richard's mother.
ryannayr417
QUOTE(Dragonmeister @ Mar 2 2009, 11:01 AM) [snapback]386147[/snapback]
Don't forget, Cale is Richard's mother.


Who could forget that!

Me, that's who.

I wonder if that will ever have some sort of bearing later in the comic...

I think Krunch may be the last surviving Blood Rage if not the last of the Tauren/Minotaur/Bullpeople
Rombom
QUOTE(Kerrah @ Mar 2 2009, 09:29 AM) [snapback]386133[/snapback]
Yeah, it's like EVERY CHARACTER must have parents. How weird is that?


Well, err, People tend to have Parents, even if they are fictional...
Maow
I don't think it was Commander Daddy who ordered the mage fire to burn down the north. If you read page 225 he says 'The legion will cease it's advance' and 'We will call for a halt'

You don't see whoever gives the orders for the mage fire, however, whoever it is has the same arm as Aelloon. Commander Daddy is also surprised (And thus drops his wine) when he hears that there is no one left to oppose them (and so the North is beaten)

I think that Aelloon ordered the mage fire to burn down the North, after Commander Daddy left. Even though Commander Daddy knew Papa Bloodrage (if that is the friend they are talking about) had been killed he might not have known that it had been burnt to the ground.

Also, has anyone realised that Aelloon's Dagger looks just like a mini Sword of Truth

Oh... and Rombom... I think Kerrah was being sarcastic, owing to the fat that people do tend to have parents =D
ryannayr417
Am I the only one who finds Aelloon extra sexy today?
Karrade Krise
QUOTE(Maow @ Mar 2 2009, 05:31 PM) [snapback]386174[/snapback]
I don't think it was Commander Daddy who ordered the mage fire to burn down the north. If you read page 225 he says 'The legion will cease it's advance' and 'We will call for a halt'

You don't see whoever gives the orders for the mage fire, however, whoever it is has the same arm as Aelloon. Commander Daddy is also surprised (And thus drops his wine) when he hears that there is no one left to oppose them (and so the North is beaten)

I think that Aelloon ordered the mage fire to burn down the North, after Commander Daddy left. Even though Commander Daddy knew Papa Bloodrage (if that is the friend they are talking about) had been killed he might not have known that it had been burnt to the ground.

Also, has anyone realised that Aelloon's Dagger looks just like a mini Sword of Truth

Oh... and Rombom... I think Kerrah was being sarcastic, owing to the fat that people do tend to have parents =D


Wrong tongue.gif Aeloon pushes the Comander, making him spill his wine.
MrEasterband
Every character that's been introduced lately seems to be the parrent of a character that was introduced in the first or second issue...
I bet that the next character that's introduced is Benny's biological father...
Gwynasyn
QUOTE(Kunama @ Mar 2 2009, 08:43 AM) [snapback]386120[/snapback]
I can't help but think Aelloon looks like a bear. Or a gorilla. Or some sort of humanoid with far too much hair.


Is he a bearlock?! blink.gif



laugh.gif
Ahrok
QUOTE(Maow @ Mar 2 2009, 06:31 PM) [snapback]386174[/snapback]
I don't think it was Commander Daddy who ordered the mage fire to burn down the north. If you read page 225 he says 'The legion will cease it's advance' and 'We will call for a halt'

You don't see whoever gives the orders for the mage fire, however, whoever it is has the same arm as Aelloon. Commander Daddy is also surprised (And thus drops his wine) when he hears that there is no one left to oppose them (and so the North is beaten)

I think that Aelloon ordered the mage fire to burn down the North, after Commander Daddy left. Even though Commander Daddy knew Papa Bloodrage (if that is the friend they are talking about) had been killed he might not have known that it had been burnt to the ground.

Also, has anyone realised that Aelloon's Dagger looks just like a mini Sword of Truth

Oh... and Rombom... I think Kerrah was being sarcastic, owing to the fat that people do tend to have parents =D


Well... he does call for a halt, but he also says that they will seize the advantage, and if u look closely u'll notice that the arm doesent cary a plate mail, but a scale mail like the commander ^^

And yeah! that dagger looks like the Sword of Thruth, but then he is the one who wants Benny to retreive it for him in the first place.




I think our dear Aelloon is suffering from Hubris, and the commander was trying to warn him... So this will end with his Nemesis!! zomg!?!
Kerrah
QUOTE(Rombom @ Mar 2 2009, 06:33 PM) [snapback]386159[/snapback]
Well, err, People tend to have Parents, even if they are fictional...

You should get your sarcasm detector fixed.
malkavian
QUOTE(ryannayr417 @ Mar 2 2009, 11:02 AM) [snapback]386146[/snapback]
What did you do to Lunaya's post? 1) She would never ever misspell Tavor and 2) the quote above you is completely different. Just, what? It isn't nice to edit a quote without saying so in your post, that is how miscommunications start.

first dont troll, yes i mispelled his name..

second its saying that it might be tavor son or tavor himself..

now you was saying
The Traveler
QUOTE(malkavian @ Mar 2 2009, 02:35 PM) [snapback]386217[/snapback]
first dont troll, yes i mispelled his name..

second its saying that it might be tavor son or tavor himself..

now you was saying


um excuse me but how is it trolling to point out that you changed a quote? and the mispelling point was i think a mention that the person who's quote you changed likes tavor so much that they never would, and not used as an insult towards yourself, and to be honest the way you worded your change isn't quite clear
Devin Austra
Oh for fuck's sake, can't we just talk about the damn comic?

Why the hell does someone always have to try and start some stupid argument over something trivial in every damn comic topic?
So what if he edited a post a little? I don't know why anyone would bother editing it myself, but the quote still carries the same meaning. If the person being quoted wants to gripe about it, they can, but I don't think it's anyone else's place to tell someone they're not allowed to edit a quote (other than a moderator, of course).
Is it really so big of a deal to some folks that they're willing to pick a fight over it?

Regarding other, on topic posts:

Rank/gems: Yes, they look like Richard's gem, but a diamond-shaped gem/emblem is not exactly unique. Matter of fact, the Marine Corps JROTC uses silver diamonds, called lozenges, to signify high cadet rank. Look at past pages and you'll see other Legion soldiers with them too. It's not necessarily something magical that has something to do with Richard.

It's been clearly stated in more than one comic that the commander and the Bloodrage chief were very old friends.

Other pages with the commander show he clearly has human ears. Depending on the angle they might look a bit elfin, but they're clearly not. There are many past pages showing he has human ears.

Aelloon calls the commander "father". The commander refers to him as "boy" and treats him more like a son than a commanding officer; a much different manner than everyone else, who bows over at the waist. It's pretty clear he's Aelloon's dad and commands more respect from Aelloon than others.
Sohmer loves throwing us for a loop and going in a completely different direction than we expected, but this is just too straightforward to be interpreted as anything else.

It's not Aelloon giving the order for the mage fire. You can see some of that dragonscale armor at the shoulder of said arm ordering the fire, which Aelloon doesn't wear. Although apparently he does wear a onesie. smile.gif

I also think "Commander Kickass" is a good name for him until/unless we are given his real name. He's a good commander, intelligent, willing to do what is necessary to win, loyal, but also has a conscience.

A lot of the questions/theories in this topic (some of which are thought-provoking, but quite wild) could be answered/put to rest just by checking back pages.

I love how each new page raises more questions than it answers. No sarcasm; we just don't have enough backstory yet to really figure out who is who for sure, and it makes for some good discussion.
TYHE
Assuming that EVERYONE eventually went with Captain Vraay, Aeloon's father may find sister's temple much better protected than he thinks.
Maybe he will even loose the battle.
After all, they've got Richard and and will not hesitate to use him ^^
Hctib is a real Bitch
I thought Cale was Richard's mom jk jk jk lol

But don't forget that Pella is Cale's gaurdian or w/e
Gwynasyn
QUOTE(TYHE @ Mar 2 2009, 04:19 PM) [snapback]386259[/snapback]
Assuming that EVERYONE eventually went with Captain Vraay, Aeloon's father may find sister's temple much better protected than he thinks.
Maybe he will even loose the battle.
After all, they've got Richard and and will not hesitate to use him ^^


Plus another big ass army who will be understandably pissed off wink.gif
Nathael
QUOTE(SilverKnight @ Mar 2 2009, 07:14 AM) [snapback]386071[/snapback]
Okay, why does Aelloon look like Magneto?

I'm just curious.


Aelloon hasn't changed that much... http://lfgcomic.com/page/7

Back then he was still Commander like his daddy. Question is: Who is the king of the legion?
Tavor maybe?
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