The Legacy
Feb 9 2009, 06:46 AM
http://lfgcomic.com/page/225Lar's late, but no matter.

I think they're done for. Those reinforcements should have been there two comics ago.
BlackFrost
Feb 9 2009, 06:58 AM
yes, its really to late for reinforcements now, TO KENETHICA!(or however its spelt XD)
Novalyyn
Feb 9 2009, 07:50 AM
Oh dear. Even if they do arrive in time to do anything, it won't be much more than salvaging, and not much would be salvageable...
cHr0n0sPh3r3
Feb 9 2009, 08:02 AM
*insert the independance day speech here*
zdhusn
Feb 9 2009, 09:03 AM
Soooo, is this the end of Krunch,Sooba & Tim
Kunama
Feb 9 2009, 09:23 AM
Nooooooooo.
Doesn't this mean they are burning their own dwarves too?
IMB111
Feb 9 2009, 09:34 AM
QUOTE(Kunama @ Feb 9 2009, 10:23 AM) [snapback]375386[/snapback]
Nooooooooo.
Doesn't this mean they are burning their own dwarves too?
Well... sometimes you have to sacrifice some pawns to win.
And it really looks like the cavalery being too late.
Lunaya
Feb 9 2009, 09:41 AM
Yeah...I'm fully expecting Richard to make good on that Gandalf impression. "Look to the east!"
Thorgalson
Feb 9 2009, 10:12 AM
Well, that reminded me of Braveheart.. When the king decided to just shoot arrows into the fray.. "But we will hit our own men!" "yes, but theirs as well". Anyway, I thought the mages were a bit silly. They are powerfull enough to conjure fire and let it hover a metre above their heads, fire that will cling to arrows and burn anything that arrow hits, but they can't just throw the stuff themselves? Now what mage can't throw fire himself and needs arrows to make it go anywhere? That's just silly.
And boy, it's not looking good indeed.. although I must say that the place isn't drawn that clear in the last picture.. almost as if we're not allowed to have a good look at what the fire is doing..

So maybe that means the damage isn't as extensive as we are led to believe?
CrystalSuicune
Feb 9 2009, 10:39 AM
........All I can say is:Oh shit.
Unless this is a case of No One Could Survive That,
I have to say Cale and Richard will be too late to save
them.
Chuint
Feb 9 2009, 10:40 AM
QUOTE
Well, that reminded me of Braveheart.. When the king decided to just shoot arrows into the fray.. "But we will hit our own men!" "yes, but theirs as well". Anyway, I thought the mages were a bit silly. They are powerfull enough to conjure fire and let it hover a metre above their heads, fire that will cling to arrows and burn anything that arrow hits, but they can't just throw the stuff themselves? Now what mage can't throw fire himself and needs arrows to make it go anywhere? That's just silly.
And boy, it's not looking good indeed.. although I must say that the place isn't drawn that clear in the last picture.. almost as if we're not allowed to have a good look at what the fire is doing.. wink.gif So maybe that means the damage isn't as extensive as we are led to believe?
Who said they couldnt? Maybe the fire was moving on it's on it's own and you just didn't realize that two ranged attacks going different directions (though starting in the same place) are better than just one.
The last panel could just be full of smoke and explosions, maybe it's so high up the destroyed area can hardly be seen.
Also,
I. Hate. Battlemages.
Don't know why, but I just do.
malkavian
Feb 9 2009, 11:21 AM
oh dear.the sisters will miss the return of felbunny.and we remember what the battlemages did to richard before..
dmh3000
Feb 9 2009, 11:26 AM
QUOTE
Well, that reminded me of Braveheart.. When the king decided to just shoot arrows into the fray.. "But we will hit our own men!" "yes, but theirs as well". Anyway, I thought the mages were a bit silly. They are powerfull enough to conjure fire and let it hover a metre above their heads, fire that will cling to arrows and burn anything that arrow hits, but they can't just throw the stuff themselves? Now what mage can't throw fire himself and needs arrows to make it go anywhere? That's just silly.
And boy, it's not looking good indeed.. although I must say that the place isn't drawn that clear in the last picture.. almost as if we're not allowed to have a good look at what the fire is doing.. wink.gif So maybe that means the damage isn't as extensive as we are led to believe?
He said to pull back the soldiers, so I'm guessing that it was planned beforehand. They might have had drills on that particular event.
I'm surprised they didn't plan to just hammer the shield until it broke and then do this maneuvre though. Would have saved them some men. Unless of course, the shield can only be broken by breaking the power source (ie. the sisters)
Pinguin333
Feb 9 2009, 11:43 AM
Sure the fortress is lost, but the Lord Commander's own tactics gave the Northern alliance an escaperoute: the black dwarf tunnels. Just send in Krunch first to do some more "I'll rip out your spine and beat you to death with it" and they might even end up behind enemy lines, giving them the advantage. Judging by the size of the drills in previous comics Krunch would fit in the tunnels, though it may be tight.
Minor comment about the flaming arrows thing though: There is no way an arrow flying at full speed through a flame will a) catch fire and b) remain a flaming arrow all the time until it hits the ground. Historically flaming arrows had a pitch-soaked cloth wrapped around them and were lit before they were fired.
SilkyZ
Feb 9 2009, 01:04 PM
EDITED*
Prediction on what happen and what will happen:
Krunch, being the wise one, took command after his father died and ordered a "Tactical Withdraw." (not a surrender or retreat) They fell back into the mountain threw the gnome tunnels (what mountain doesn't have tunnels?) and are falling back to New Kethenecia with Cale 'n' Co. The tactical purpose of skirmish at Bloodrage Island was to give Cale and Co enough time to strengthen New Kethenecia as well as thin out the Legarian lines.
Why?
-It gives Krunch, Sobba, and Tim as well as the other Northern Leaders time to regroup and live
-The Wak-a-Gnome and excise amounts of long range weapons with a light infantry says to me that they were trying to thin them out as much as possible
*-The loss of air support early in the defensive. AIR SUPPORT = VICTORY, the moment that was lost, preparations were set to evacuate.
-The shield cast over Bloodrage Island was relatively weak, breaking in only a few (three-ish) strips. Far too weak, even against the power of Ligaria, to serve any defense for a siege
*-Their is the issue of marching time (i could go all thread with this one). the speed the Cale could reach Bloodrage Island would be slower then the speed he could reach New Kethenecia with the size of his force. this is the main reason why they had so much time since the escape from the northern garrison until now, Ligarians move like slugs.
Rip Van Ishmael
Feb 9 2009, 05:06 PM
QUOTE(Pinguin333 @ Feb 9 2009, 06:43 AM) [snapback]375398[/snapback]
Sure the fortress is lost, but the Lord Commander's own tactics gave the Northern alliance an escaperoute: the black dwarf tunnels. Just send in Krunch first to do some more "I'll rip out your spine and beat you to death with it" and they might even end up behind enemy lines, giving them the advantage. Judging by the size of the drills in previous comics Krunch would fit in the tunnels, though it may be tight.
If the Black Dwarves were
smart (or loyal), they'd collapse the tunnels behind them to keep precisely that from happening.
But who knows.
So, isn't the Bloodrage city mostly stone? I mean, that's what it
looks like.
This was actually addressed on that page, too. The whole 'burning stone buildings' thing.
In other news,
man that 503 error is annoying.
Danny J
Feb 9 2009, 05:38 PM
QUOTE(Pinguin333 @ Feb 9 2009, 06:43 AM) [snapback]375398[/snapback]
Sure the fortress is lost, but the Lord Commander's own tactics gave the Northern alliance an escaperoute: the black dwarf tunnels. Just send in Krunch first to do some more "I'll rip out your spine and beat you to death with it" and they might even end up behind enemy lines, giving them the advantage. Judging by the size of the drills in previous comics Krunch would fit in the tunnels, though it may be tight.
Minor comment about the flaming arrows thing though: There is no way an arrow flying at full speed through a flame will a) catch fire and b) remain a flaming arrow all the time until it hits the ground. Historically flaming arrows had a pitch-soaked cloth wrapped around them and were lit before they were fired.
This is magic fire though.
Danny J
Feb 9 2009, 05:39 PM
QUOTE(Pinguin333 @ Feb 9 2009, 06:43 AM) [snapback]375398[/snapback]
Sure the fortress is lost, but the Lord Commander's own tactics gave the Northern alliance an escaperoute: the black dwarf tunnels. Just send in Krunch first to do some more "I'll rip out your spine and beat you to death with it" and they might even end up behind enemy lines, giving them the advantage. Judging by the size of the drills in previous comics Krunch would fit in the tunnels, though it may be tight.
Minor comment about the flaming arrows thing though: There is no way an arrow flying at full speed through a flame will a) catch fire and b) remain a flaming arrow all the time until it hits the ground. Historically flaming arrows had a pitch-soaked cloth wrapped around them and were lit before they were fired.
This is magic fire though.
SilkyZ
Feb 9 2009, 07:47 PM
Double post! Burn him in the Magical Fire of witch he speaks of!
J/K, but really...
The place is made of stone, the catapults aren't, the grasses and trees aren't, the Bloodrage aren't. Migi-Fire my bum, the place will burn leaving only the stones and bones of thoughts who died, the rest fled into the mountian when the troops withdrew.
Rip Van Ishmael
Feb 9 2009, 10:12 PM
The hoof, the hoof, the hoof is on fire! We don't need no water elemental, let that mother-killer burn!
Ehe.
Bullhead
Feb 9 2009, 10:41 PM
When I saw those battlemagi line up, I actually expected all of them to jump one by one into a pool and make syncronized flowerpatterns.
Chuint
Feb 9 2009, 10:56 PM
Huh, this is a quiet page. :I
QUOTE
oh dear.the sisters will miss the return of felbunny.and we remember what the battlemages did to richard before..
Richard may have let them beat him. It would have been inconvenient to have everyone in the land looking to claim the huge bounty on an undead warlock
(preferably still kind of alive so they could control him using powerful spells or something stupid like that) traveling with an elf, minotaur, troll-ish woman, female dwarf, panther, and a small brown rabbit
(preferably all dead).
Internet_Ninja
Feb 10 2009, 02:49 AM
I can just image the victorious Legion forces moving in towards the burning city, and Richard saying "Look for my coming on the third day..." and appearing dramatically on the hillside with the sunrise behind him, and then doing something to ruin the moment.
malkavian
Feb 10 2009, 03:25 AM
QUOTE(Chuint @ Feb 9 2009, 05:56 PM) [snapback]375492[/snapback]
Huh, this is a quiet page. :I
Richard may have let them beat him. It would have been inconvenient to have everyone in the land looking to claim the huge bounty on an undead warlock (preferably still kind of alive so they could control him using powerful spells or something stupid like that) traveling with an elf, minotaur, troll-ish woman, female dwarf, panther, and a small brown rabbit (preferably all dead).
they cant kill richard's bunny its been told that the king shall return with the hero i.e cale with bunny in hand or something like that
Aeryck
Feb 10 2009, 07:02 AM
QUOTE(Internet_Ninja @ Feb 9 2009, 07:49 PM) [snapback]375589[/snapback]
I can just image the victorious Legion forces moving in towards the burning city, and Richard saying "Look for my coming on the third day..." and appearing dramatically on the hillside with the sunrise behind him, and then doing something to ruin the moment.
lol just like this one
"Say the 'entire kingdom' line again"
Gingerplague
Feb 10 2009, 10:46 AM
QUOTE(Internet_Ninja @ Feb 10 2009, 12:19 PM) [snapback]375589[/snapback]
I can just image the victorious Legion forces moving in towards the burning city, and Richard saying "Look for my coming on the third day..." and appearing dramatically on the hillside with the sunrise behind him, and then doing something to ruin the moment.
oh, so hope they do that.

That would be hilarious.
DragonFlame87110
Feb 10 2009, 02:20 PM
Well, this just took a definitive turn for the worst....
visceral
Feb 11 2009, 07:54 AM
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Well, this just took a definitive turn for the worst....
And yet, I absolutely love where it's going.
Shows that the creators aren't going with a happy-happy-joy-joy feel, that bad guys can win, that there are real people, even in comics.
That they're serious about the story arc, and aren't going to compromise it for a warlock gag (real fingers, virtually crossed).
Chev
Feb 11 2009, 08:13 AM
'Look to the east'
Tunnels
Tactical retreat
Ambush the partying Legion with the fell bunnie ^^
Dictaternutz
Feb 11 2009, 08:17 AM
I don't think anyones beaten me to it yet.
Things do be looking bad for our heroes.
DragonFlame87110
Feb 11 2009, 08:45 PM
QUOTE(visceral @ Feb 11 2009, 02:54 AM) [snapback]375991[/snapback]
And yet, I absolutely love where it's going.
Shows that the creators aren't going with a happy-happy-joy-joy feel, that bad guys can win, that there are real people, even in comics.
That they're serious about the story arc, and aren't going to compromise it for a warlock gag (real fingers, virtually crossed).
Oh I agree. I'm glad that they haven't gone with the predictable. This means they are creative and this is a good thing! ^__^
ryannayr417
Feb 12 2009, 02:00 AM
Don't hope too soon, a miraculous rescue is possible, preferably with Richard having a quick vengence on the Battle Magi
lfp6
Feb 12 2009, 02:22 AM
QUOTE(SilkyZ @ Feb 9 2009, 02:47 PM) [snapback]375431[/snapback]
Double post! Burn him in the Magical Fire of witch he speaks of!
J/K, but really...
The place is made of stone, the catapults aren't, the grasses and trees aren't, the Bloodrage aren't. Migi-Fire my bum, the place will burn leaving only the stones and bones of thoughts who died, the rest fled into the mountian when the troops withdrew.
No bones; ashes definitely. Not totally suprised, as I knew that The Chief would be incinerated to prevent ressing, but thats another bag of chips.
The Sisters probably teleported out [if any survived], and the remainder of the Northern Alliance are likely hauling ass under the tunnels, and the REAL battle will be at the gates of New Kethenecia.
And now I have this feeling that N.K. may as well be a magical version of Macross ^^;;;.
Chuint
Feb 12 2009, 03:02 AM
Im almost hoping there is no miraculous save from the heroes, and that we see a win for the bad guys.
Cale and company will have their day, after more planning and many tragic losses.
SilkyZ
Feb 12 2009, 04:37 AM
QUOTE(lfp6 @ Feb 11 2009, 09:22 PM) [snapback]376404[/snapback]
No bones; ashes definitely. Not totally suprised, as I knew that The Chief would be incinerated to prevent ressing, but thats another bag of chips.
The Sisters probably teleported out [if any survived], and the remainder of the Northern Alliance are likely hauling ass under the tunnels, and the REAL battle will be at the gates of New Kethenecia.
And now I have this feeling that N.K. may as well be a magical version of Macross ^^;;;.
Mmmmmmmm..... Macross saga...... good times......
Anywho, I feel exactly the same way. next panel we'll see Ligaria enjoying the spoils of war and realize the causality rate on the Northern side is too low for total annihilation
Oscar Hammerfist
Feb 19 2009, 07:18 PM
To all the talk of the arrows. It was magi-fire, after all it was green (I assume that it was ment to spread a whole lot and also burn EVERYTHING)
And as for who survived. I think that no one survived. After all, it seems as though everytime they've added someone to the group, someone got nocked off (at least since pella) and the captain does seem to be a part of the group now.
Also, Those ewoks need to burn. I hope richard has fun.
The Reader
Feb 19 2009, 10:22 PM
if you'd notice, most skeletons are of human
also there only enough skeletons for 6 bloodrage (more or less

)
also you should notice that all the fighting was near the tunnels so there a good retreat you have there

(BTW this is my first post Hurray!)
Devin Austra
Feb 20 2009, 09:50 AM
Comparing the size of the skulls to the Ewoks juggling them, I'd say those are gnome skeletons. Some may be sisters, too.
There are more skeletons than are shown, I'm sure. Each panel is like a snapshot of a movie; there's more going on in between those panels that just isn't shown.
I doubt Krunch is dead. The whole "Here we are with an entire army just in time so no one's going to die" schtick would have been too cliche. Having them beaten badly, but not necessarily wiped out completely, seems more believable.
Rip Van Ishmael
Feb 21 2009, 03:52 AM
QUOTE(The Reader @ Feb 19 2009, 05:22 PM) [snapback]379730[/snapback]
if you'd notice, most skeletons are of human
also there only enough skeletons for 6 bloodrage (more or less

)
also you should notice that all the fighting was near the tunnels so there a good retreat you have there

(BTW this is my first post Hurray!)
I dunno, [as far as we saw] the Legarans didn't bother actually invading the Bloodrage territory. They stayed outside the barrier, both working to break it down so their ranged attacks can reach as well as picking off the oncoming Bloodrage forces. The only ones we saw fighting in actual Bloodrage territory were the Dwarves.
I'm no war strategist, but from what I saw of this battle I come to this conclusion:
The Legarans, despite being the ones to initiate the attack, fought incredibly defensively compared to the Bloodrage. And I think they
knew the Bloodrage wouldn't be able to help themselves from starting a ground-battle, such as they did, and that's why they lost. Notice as soon as the barrier was felled the Commander commanded (heh) them to raze the land with Wizards fire and leave. They didn't even bother moving in to take the remaining forces out by hand. They knew the Bloodrage would exhaust their best forces trying to drive off the 'invading' army instead of aggressively defending themselves, like they should have.
I wonder why Krunch didn't point that all out before the conflict....or maybe he did, but his warmongering father and doting brother thought him foolish. Remember, how do the Bloodrage 'surrender'?
Library Ghost
Feb 24 2009, 10:59 PM
Whatever happened, the archbunny is going to fix it (or try) and make it all good again... or at least that's what is implied.
The Reader
Feb 25 2009, 09:28 PM
I just noticed this, if you look back exactly 10 pages youll notice that the builders have been spying on the bloodrage
I dont know if that means much but its clear the bloodrage were at a larger disadvantage than we thought
Temperjoke
Feb 25 2009, 10:18 PM
QUOTE(The Reader @ Feb 25 2009, 04:28 PM) [snapback]383448[/snapback]
I just noticed this, if you look back exactly 10 pages youll notice that the builders have been spying on the bloodrage
I dont know if that means much but its clear the bloodrage were at a larger disadvantage than we thought
I fully expect a small portion of the defenders to have survived, probably in the Builder's own tunnels, although we don't know that the Legarion commander didn't send his troops back in after the fire attack to finish off or capture the rest.
What I don't get is, if they had a huge army inside the city, and the city's armies were gone to the north, why didn't they raze and destroy the city of Legara itself before they left?
Also, why didn't anyone realize how long it would take to move an entire army of people to the north? I mean, they're disappointed that they arrived too late, but it took Cale and his team how long to get there on their own? And an army travels a helluva lot slower than a crew of people!
Also, I'm going to cry "haxx" if the magus cheats and brings all of the Bloodrage back to life!
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