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IconX
Love the wide-eyed pose from blondie in panel 3, even though he clearly has not seen the horde of dragons yet.
Lady Gray
One word: Whoa. Cale an' co. may want to hurry the hell up.
Nexus
QUOTE(IconX @ Jan 7 2009, 11:22 PM) [snapback]358972[/snapback]
Love the wide-eyed pose from blondie in panel 3, even though he clearly has not seen the horde of dragons yet.

He's probably not sure what to make of the previous statement.

Anyway, this battle will be epic.
IconX
Also, is that a dead sheep in a wheelbarrow I spy on the right in the first panel?
Lady Gray
lol looks like
Lady Gray
Hey, do we know this commander's name? Just out of curiosity...

edit: Ohhh sorry for the double post! Did not notice!!!!
Indignant
That...is not good.

I wonder if the Gnomes have invented effective anti-air ballistae yet...it might be their only chance, especially if they can automate the thing...kind of like that old-ish Van Helsing movie's crossbow. That would probably help.
Kerrah
Commander Kickass continues to be worthy of his nickname.
Admiral_Kelly
I am rooting for the humans. They have a very good motive for doing all of this.

Wait - what is their motive other than being the Evil EmpireTM? This was never explained.

But I am rooting for the humans anyway since they stand a pretty good chance. I mean they have dragons, dammit, dragons.

Oh wait... and he's 'not a warrior'... not to mention the cavalry that's coming... so...

Why do we care for this grand upcoming battle again?
Indignant
Be that as it may, it doesn't bode well for our heroes...Richard can take at most 2 dragons at a time? (As far as I can tell, all of his magic requires his hands, right? One spell per hand at a time.) And he's the biggest powerhouse against an aerial force, with the exception of Cale if he can hit JUST right every time. And that's a big maybe. So...get working engineers!

EDIT: I think the motive is "Let's not get invaded today."
Nexus
I want a dragon. They look like cats with their front feet tucked in, and one is scratching itself with its hind leg! Cats with scales and wings. And fire. And really big. happy.gif
Indignant
And they eat...everything...they're large enough to probably eat a whole cow. Now...imagine having to clean that out of your backyard...both after eating (which could be really messy too) and after digestion.

EDIT: I don't mean to rain on your parade...just random thoughts I had.
Admiral_Kelly
QUOTE(Indignant @ Jan 8 2009, 12:43 AM) [snapback]358986[/snapback]
Be that as it may, it doesn't bode well for our heroes...Richard can take at most 2 dragons at a time? (As far as I can tell, all of his magic requires his hands, right? One spell per hand at a time.) And he's the biggest powerhouse against an aerial force, with the exception of Cale if he can hit JUST right every time. And that's a big maybe. So...get working engineers!

EDIT: I think the motive is "Let's not get invaded today."
Yes, maybe I am being a little too nit-picky. I'd just like the humans to be shown as a serious threat instead of another villain archetype. The dragons are very badass but the humans still do not seem to have the strength of their opponents even if you don't take Cale's small army into account.
Indignant
I think they are using the common strategy known as "Zerging"

From www.reference.com:
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Zerging - 1 reference result
Rush (video games)
In real-time strategy (RTS) and team-based first-person shooter (FPS) computer games, a rush is a fast attack at the beginning of the game. In this context, it is also known as swarming, goblin tactics or Zerging, referring to the Zerg rush tactic from StarCraft. It emphasizes speed in an attempt to overwhelm an unprepared opponent. It is analogous to the blitzkrieg in real-world ground warfare, in which speed and surprise are used to overwhelm an enemy before they build a sizable defense. In fighting games, this style of play is called rushdown. This also has a different meaning in massively multiplayer online role-playing games (MMORPGs), where characters skip the usual progress path with the aid of others to reap benefits that are usually denied to them until a later time.

The alternatives to rushing are turtling and rapid expansion.

Rushing in computer games carries the connotation of being disorganized, too easy, and/or unfair, and players who employ this tactic are often considered inferior or cheap. There are few defenses against a rush, one of these few being camping. Proponents, especially in realtime strategy games, feel that the threat of a rush keeps their opponents honest, forcing them to play defense from the beginning of the match.



The human soldiers are weak but legion. A Bloodrage can only take so many wounds before he's down, and we've seen how easily giants can be defeated. If the invading army has a chance, it is in strength of numbers, not arms.
Admiral_Kelly
That may work depending on the size of the human forces. Overpower the ground troops while the dragons take out the enemy air contraptions, then scorch the land - they have a chance of winning. Cale's reinforcements is a wildcard of course.
Nexus
QUOTE(Indignant @ Jan 7 2009, 11:55 PM) [snapback]358989[/snapback]
And they eat...everything...they're large enough to probably eat a whole cow. Now...imagine having to clean that out of your backyard...both after eating (which could be really messy too) and after digestion.

But they're like cats, so just train them to use the litter box. Like the soldiers did! Do you see a drop of dragon poo in that picture? Not I! Yeah, those blobs are soldiers. Live soldiers. Probably. Tame dragons! *gasp* My cat's named Dragon! I forgot

/babbling

QUOTE(Indignant @ Jan 8 2009, 12:03 AM) [snapback]358992[/snapback]
I think they are using the common strategy known as "Zerging"

From www.reference.com:

Ah StarCraft. *points to username*



And, it might be interesting to see our heroes lose. Not killed, just defeated. After all, one would expect them to win. This is a good chance for irony. Though when thinking about it this way, there's really no way they can lose. Something unexpected will happen and our heroes will win - as usual.
dmh3000
Cale and the others will probably arrive right as Krunch is readying his final attack. We might even get another Lord of the Rings reference.
Jodah
Yea but Richard can do the whole "pull their skelatons out of their faces" thing that he did earlier. He couldn't do it to the last dragon cause he was pinned but now...Skeletal dragons anyone? Plus Krunch can just tackle a few more!
Rip Van Ishmael
Yaaaay we're [most likely] gonna see Richard pwning/riding/generally fucking around with all the dragons he could ever want!!!

You know how Richard loves him some dragons.


*snif* It's like a late Christmas....


willow_kidd
QUOTE(Nexus @ Jan 8 2009, 12:53 AM) [snapback]358988[/snapback]
I want a dragon. They look like cats with their front feet tucked in, and one is scratching itself with its hind leg! Cats with scales and wings. And fire. And really big. happy.gif



I think the 'scratchy' one is cute, but I think my favorite has got to be the one on the bottom right corner that seems to be biting at fleas..... dragon fleas are probably huge!

Darkhawk
Lar! If you read this, I have a question for you! I know how much you love cats (or at least seem to, you talk about them a lot and like getting them on your cam, tongue.gif ), so...after what the others said in this thread, I went back and looked at the page again. Did you base their stances/sitting positions and stuff off of cats? A lot of the dragons do really closely resemble how cats sit/stand/scratch/lay. biggrin.gif

Also, I sort of hope the north loses. Not because I have anything against the north or actually want them to lose, but because it'd be really interesting to see someone have the good guys lose. It would keep us guessing. Maybe they will lose, and everyone in the north will flee to live in Cale's city. Then as king there, he will be gathering people into his kingdom to fight them off. Holy shit, I like that idea. I hope they lose! biggrin.gif
BlackFrost
hmmmmm methinks we are forgetting something here, there not just humans there will be some elves, or half elves or etc etc because remember the city is based upon Vuulti and they are elves tongue.gif

edit: heh if Dragons are cats, where are the dogs :S and if there are lets hope there on the norths side tongue.gif
second edit tongue.gif : i think its a bit late for Zerging lol so victory through attrition the Japs used this strategy in the Pacific
Rip Van Ishmael
Yaaaaay racism!


Hm...catdragons.....intriguing...
BlackFrost
QUOTE(Rip Van Ishmael @ Jan 8 2009, 08:01 PM) [snapback]359016[/snapback]
Yaaaaay racism!
Hm...catdragons.....intriguing...



Racism :S not racism historical fact
Kerrus
Why is it that I see Richard attempting to form Voltron using the dragons?
The Nozzle
Richard would do that with the sand dragons. Assuming he's managed to assert his position as the alpha-male.
Rip Van Ishmael
QUOTE(BlackFrost @ Jan 8 2009, 04:05 AM) [snapback]359018[/snapback]
Racism :S not racism historical fact


Just because people used to call them Japs doesn't mean its not racist.
BlackFrost
QUOTE(Rip Van Ishmael @ Jan 8 2009, 08:56 PM) [snapback]359023[/snapback]
Just because people used to call them Japs doesn't mean its not racist.


i thought you meant the other thing tongue.gif i dont think its racist its just lazy lol its the same as calling Australians Aussies not racist just shortened
Yakumo
I guess I'm the only one that's amused that the report could be read as "The Gnome Flyers and Gnome Giants are dominating the sky"? Yes it's late, as I'm also picturing Christopher Lloyd pulling goggles over his eyes and saying, "Gnomes? Where we're going, we don't need Gnomes."

Anywho...

QUOTE(Indignant @ Jan 8 2009, 05:38 AM) [snapback]358982[/snapback]
I wonder if the Gnomes have invented effective anti-air ballistae yet...it might be their only chance, especially if they can automate the thing...kind of like that old-ish Van Helsing movie's crossbow. That would probably help.


and a few other posts about logistics of the Northern Alliance (I like that tongue.gif). There's a whole clan of Bloodrage. One Bloodrage has tackled a dragon on his own. And the shaman of the same clan was able to augment Ray'd enough to take a giant out in one blow (*giggle fit continues at thought of "look me in the eye"). And now the giants are own board.

I'm not belittling the Legaran force, I'm just thinking we don't have a full eval of the NA forces. No need for anti-air ballistae...okay, though they really should have something, but probably only on their mountain.


QUOTE(Darkhawk @ Jan 8 2009, 08:47 AM) [snapback]359010[/snapback]
Also, I sort of hope the north loses. Not because I have anything against the north or actually want them to lose, but because it'd be really interesting to see someone have the good guys lose. It would keep us guessing. Maybe they will lose, and everyone in the north will flee to live in Cale's city. Then as king there, he will be gathering people into his kingdom to fight them off. Holy shit, I like that idea. I hope they lose! biggrin.gif


Ermm, I hope not, if that's how it goes. That description sounds typical and formulaic. Maybe if there was a falling out within Legara to give some semblance of why they could beat Legara after being crushed multiple times. Otherwise, too Hollywood (and yes, that is bad).

QUOTE(BlackFrost @ Jan 8 2009, 08:52 AM) [snapback]359013[/snapback]
hmmmmm methinks we are forgetting something here, there not just humans there will be some elves, or half elves or etc etc because remember the city is based upon Vuulti and they are elves tongue.gif


Methinks you forget that this is a subjugating empire that has assimilated whole races in a somewhat Romanesque fashion (and artfully drawn Romanesque too). We know the Vuulii used Chained Ones back in the day, maybe they still have some other members of the same race as the Bloodrage. We've been told Clan Breem is essentially working with them, and we've seen dwarven guards in Legaran towns or outposts ("I was told where your mate and offspring reside.") Upshot, I think there should be a large pool of diversity to pull from.

On the whole Roman feel (and yes, like WoW, I realize they aren't Roman, just there's an influence), any historians, amateur or otherwise, know whether a whole region of diverse groups actually did band together against Rome at any point prior to, say, 300 AD? I'm thinking not. That can make a huge difference.

Sleep now...heheh Gnome Giants...Good night.
Novalyyn
Why must all the properly dragonish dragons be enemies? DX

Needa good ol' dragon to fly the good guys around. And maybe something to fill Sooba's place in gnawing on Cale.
Rencol
Wow. Imo not even Richard can handle such army! Maybe we shall see inc of another force!
CrystalSuicune
*readies barbeque fire*Anyone for a bit of dragon steak?Plenty
of supply to go around!
But still,that's one hella army.Hope the Northern
Alliance can handle this lot..
The Nozzle
The Brothers Wizzies are going to assist Richard by forming Richardtron who will promptly use his abilities as lord of hte dance to stomp on the ground forces.
euology
Drawing an entire panel with a flock.. or would it be murder... of dragons = win.
foxeye
holy crap it's like a swarm of seaguls! seaguls that can eat you alive!
MrEasterband
Great, all the dragoncave users have united to support Legaria... Aren't dragons supposed to be really hard to find? It's not like they hatch like chickens... Perhaps Legaria have developed clone technology! That would be interesting...
Karrade Krise
Indignant
You know what I just realized, thanks to that (de)motivator? Well...That's not the whole force. More are arriving...if this is what Legara can do with RARE creatures like dragons (assuming, of course, that they are rare and not bred like horses), imagine what they could do with an army...conscription throughout the empire...etc.

Actually, I'm not sure that these are true dragons in the sense that most people think...I think they're just animals...they've yet to show off their intelligence in any way...so to this end, I shall made a distinction and call them drakes as opposed to dragons. Dunno why, just sounds more animal to me. These drake fliers appear to be pretty good, but they still barely got away from the gnome pilots, in their usual squads...if a spy/lookout managed to spot this horde, defenses could be prepared.

The numbers are with Legara. The firepower MAY just be with the heroes...they appear evenly matched on strategic command. And defense is always easier than offense, strategically, so that might give a slight edge to the home team. Also take into account gnomish engineering...often as dangerous to the user as the target, in most sources, but strangely not here. Which is an edge, and they will probably have defenses that Legara will not foresee because it has never existed before. Along with the sisters, who were able to push the Bloodrage into submission...which is quite a feat in and of itself!

So don't discount the NA, they have advantages of their own.

Crucifer
People...people...that is not enough dragons the humans are doomed.

Felbunny > Dragon Army.

You heard it here first...Holy Grail Referance incoming...bunny of doom will be unleashed!

Telling you...
http://lfgcomic.com/page/169

Prepping for war the bunny is...
http://lfgcomic.com/page/178

Rage in the heart of the bunny...funnels are bad for bunnys...
http://lfgcomic.com/page/128

Seriously i'm warning you...he killed a man once already...
http://lfgcomic.com/page/130
sewerrat127
I'm banking on Richard coming in riding a glass dragon whilst singing a song. And then you know, more glass dragons behind him to aid in the battle.
MrEasterband
QUOTE(Crucifer @ Jan 8 2009, 05:39 PM) [snapback]359151[/snapback]
Seriously i'm warning you...he killed a man once already...
http://lfgcomic.com/page/130

That was Sooba's kill, just before he got distracted by the BoneBoneBoneBoneBone...

That bunny is an Exp-Hogger!
Crucifer
Negative they had moved down the hall...the bunny was following behind them giving them cover...i'm telling you he's undeniably the world destroyer...the giant statue is proof.
Manddragoran
All I see in that last panel are lots and lots of Dragon Popsicles for Richard to try to put back together later on in the comic.
For PONY!!!
Just to throw in my 2 cents worth... I foresee Richard changing sides... because he CAN!! (It's what I'd do.)
Xal
I'm not entirely sure he understood the concept of giants.
If anyone sees him, please tell him from me that it means dozens of his dragons can be taken down in a moment by just one of their giants.
Rurik
Maybe Richard could call upon his own army? I mean, he is the master of the Brotherhood of Darkness, lord of the bones, etc. etc. Not to mention all the Richard fans who would come to his aid, myself included!
Yakumo
I don't know if this has been brought up in a prior thread, but the LFG group may get help against the dragons from another corner:

As someone mentioned, these dragons don't seem to be intelligent like the dragons of Kathencia's legend, but there's definitely a feel of dragonish connection. And we know that some of the dragonkin/humanoid dragonlike people/whathaveyou are present at this time, or at least one is because he talked with Pella in the modern day Kathenica.

I am interested to see if something might be done.


And the dragon population motivator (that sight does demotivate me from WANTING dragons spade and nuedered at least :/) is probably one of the best I've ever seen.
Chuint
Im putting my money on Richard and co. appearing either right as the battle starts, or right as the North begins to lose.

That's all Ive got to say, aside from how excited I am to see some more Richard battle-action. laugh.gif
Indignant
QUOTE(Rurik @ Jan 8 2009, 05:11 PM) [snapback]359570[/snapback]
Maybe Richard could call upon his own army? I mean, he is the master of the Brotherhood of Darkness, lord of the bones, etc. etc. Not to mention all the Richard fans who would come to his aid, myself included!


The problem with organizations of people who are both insane and evil is that the groups don't tend to work together well. Evil crazy people don't tend to get along unless they have a particular kind of crazy, and then things can just be awkward...
Rurik
Ah, but evil can often be motivated to work together by a leader who's both insane AND powerful enough to inspire fear. Besides, there's still his rabid fans. XD
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