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Rip Van Ishmael
But seriously. The Archmage seems way to into Cale for his own good.
Lunaya
Protect Cale from his friends? Did you guys notice those red eyes over Cale's shoulder in the painting? blink.gif
CrystalSuicune
QUOTE(Rip Van Ishmael @ Dec 18 2008, 01:23 PM) [snapback]345938[/snapback]
But seriously. The Archmage seems way to into Cale for his own good.

*sniffs air*Uh oh,control freak alert,control freak alert..(the Archmage)
Seriously,Cale's going for his own road.Stop it,Archmage!
Nexus
QUOTE(Lunaya @ Dec 17 2008, 11:24 PM) [snapback]345941[/snapback]
Protect Cale from his friends? Did you guys notice those red eyes over Cale's shoulder in the painting? blink.gif


I noticed. My money's on Richard.


Looks like the prologue to page 68.
Rip Van Ishmael
Hells yea.


That was just the A.M.s way of including himself in the portrait.


Or maybe that's all those white splotches in the background...
foxeye
QUOTE(Rip Van Ishmael @ Dec 18 2008, 05:23 AM) [snapback]345938[/snapback]
But seriously. The Archmage seems way to into Cale for his own good.



Indeed he is.
Lady Gray
Oh wow, I didn't notice the eyes. hmm...
I did notice the coronet, tho. And it looks like Pella painted that, too, if the brushes and stuff in the background are anything to go by. Hmmm... destined to be his guardian?
This is really interesting...

nothingbroken
The Cale portrait really made me laugh, for some reason. laugh.gif
Nexus
Oh...

If the Archmage is Richard, his last line is much more... interesting.



At least this comic gives insight as to why Pella sticks around, as well as to why the Archmage was so direct with Pella in 208.
Metalcommand
love the last panel... wub.gif
iloverichard
QUOTE(Lunaya @ Dec 17 2008, 09:24 PM) [snapback]345941[/snapback]
Protect Cale from his friends? Did you guys notice those red eyes over Cale's shoulder in the painting? blink.gif


I saw those too... and immediately thought of our Richard. So what's exactly going to happen when he breaks the crystal?
Joe™
QUOTE(Rip Van Ishmael @ Dec 18 2008, 05:23 AM) [snapback]345938[/snapback]
But seriously. The Archmage seems way to into Cale for his own good.



I was thinking this too.

Richard is quite evil if you do remember, staying with the group was only for fun, who's to say Richard's actually good?

If he grows bored of them...he might just drain their souls xD
Gingerplague
NOOO! Curse u and your cliff hangers! mad.gif I need to know more!

(god... I really am addicted...)

my theory is that the "friend" that Cale needs protection from is Pella herself!
or..... they could drag up Travis from nowhere like they did last time wink.gif
Vote_Richard_or_Die_2008
QUOTE(Rip Van Ishmael @ Dec 17 2008, 10:23 PM) [snapback]345938[/snapback]
But seriously. The Archmage seems way to into Cale for his own good.

Aye, that and Pella looks just damn hot panel 5. Mmm, avvie plz? Will give brownie points!
Greenguy
QUOTE(Gingerplague @ Dec 17 2008, 11:20 PM) [snapback]345999[/snapback]
NOOO! Curse u and your cliff hangers! mad.gif I need to know more!

(god... I really am addicted...)

my theory is that the "friend" that Cale needs protection from is Pella herself!
or..... they could drag up Travis from nowhere like they did last time wink.gif


Ummm ... did you mean Tavor?
Cuz if u mean Tavor ... and he were to come back watch out for Lunaya ... she might just run you over

And looking at it ... I would say the archmage painted the picture ... looks like there is a bed in the corner there that he could be using
Lady Gray
Why are all of my posts long???
QUOTE(Lunaya @ Dec 18 2008, 12:24 AM) [snapback]345941[/snapback]
Protect Cale from his friends? Did you guys notice those red eyes over Cale's shoulder in the painting? blink.gif

Remember, the Bloodrage tribe's eyes turn red when they're pissed. It's even on the cover of that issue. Also, check out Pella's Benny's eyes here (last panel) and here (second-to-last panel.) That happens other times, too, but I'm too lazy to go track them down. And while I'm not sure if that's just an artistic way of showing anger or if it's something that actually happens to their eyes, I think it's significant that neither Cale nor Pella's eyes (er, as far as I recall...) ever turn red (tho I also can't think offhand of a time when either of them was really, really angry.) Richard's eyes pretty much always stay yellow, tho, even when he's looking particularly pissed (third panel) or... would you call this annoyed? (last panel) or when he's being menacing (panel two.) Sometimes he has flames in his eyes, like in panel 11 here, and sometimes they're gradated with a bit of red but... I don't think they're ever that flat red. And does he really need the added menace of red eyes???

Not to mention, all of the above ignores the possibility that the eyes on the portrait represent something completely different. One of Cale's enemies that the Archmage mentioned, maybe-- is Tavor back to hiding in those blades, btw? --or even something metaphorical, or less tangible, like Cale's "inner evil." (Wow, how much fun would an evil!Cale be??? Runs the risk of being a plot device if he's suddenly fighting an internal evil, but... evil!Cale!) Maybe the eyes' meaning is less specific, just a general "BAD OMEN EVIL EYES ZOMFG" sorta... thing. Yeah, shut up.

Anyway. So while there was a bit of a "LOLgeez" moment when the Archmage said "from his friends" and my first though was, of course, RICHARD!!!!111ONE I think that, not only is there merit to the idea that the Old Dude could be referring to someone else, but a lot of amazing plot potential if it turns out he is. And as an added note: Cale's not exactly the best judge of character. Does "friends" refer to his Group? Or does it refer to people he (at least seems to) trusts? Like, say, Tah'vraay-- whose intentions are still questionable, what with that whole "helping to raise an entire army in secret" thing.

The eyes are behind him, suggesting a "sneak attack" or a surprise, which in turn implies some kind of betrayal. But that could just as easily refer, again, to Tavor, or the nature of his race. OR HIMSELF. ph34r.gif

OR... maybe those eyes don't represent a threat to Cale. Maybe they represent some power Cale has at his back? Like, say... Richard?

So VERY many ways to take it, so little sleep-deprivation I can afford.

Guess we'll have to wait and see.

...I HATE waiting... but so long as SohLar keep the awesomeness coming, I suppose I can at least suffer in appreciative silence.
lappen
QUOTE(Nexus @ Dec 18 2008, 07:25 AM) [snapback]345945[/snapback]
I noticed. My money's on Richard.
Looks like the prologue to page 68.

ehmm, richard got yellow eyes.

what creeps me out is that... when benny is angry she gets red eyes.



o_O
SylentKnight
Hmmm...

I'm really thinking about the possibility that it may be Benny.
Remember, she can be quite [post="http://lfgcomic.com/page/186"]ruthless[/post].

And on the last panel [post="http://lfgcomic.com/page/181"]here[/post] she has the "red eye" thing going.

She also set Cale up by not mentioning the guards inside the jail.

Richard is a flame thrower; Benny is a poison dagger in the back.
Gingerplague
QUOTE(Greenguy @ Dec 18 2008, 04:18 PM) [snapback]346017[/snapback]
Ummm ... did you mean Tavor?
Cuz if u mean Tavor ... and he were to come back watch out for Lunaya ... she might just run you over


yes I did mean Tavor ty for the correction. Oh... and don't worry about Lunaya I have...things in motion <.< >.>

QUOTE(Lady Gray @ Dec 18 2008, 04:53 PM) [snapback]346028[/snapback]
Also, check out Pella's eyes here (last panel) and here (second-to-last panel.)


Ok now i have to point out someone else's mistake to make myself feel better.... you are thinking of Benny...

whadda u know... it works.. laugh.gif
nothingbroken
Benny's eyes do get red sometimes when she's really mad, but I'm assuming the glowing eyes in the portrait belong to Richard. smile.gif I love it when we get little hints of things to come like this!
Ap' anon
gotta love mooorrreee Pella wink.gif

my likes some red head dwarf.
pine-cone
so does this meen that the gang is gona sortof implode and start hating and attaking each other (kinda like the 1st scooby doo film) my money's on richard to win.
Richard the Great
Everyone wondering about the eyes' identity while there's a more important question in front of you: how the heck is Pella's father alive and breathing? Is he some kind of ghost or vision that only Pella and the Archmage can see? blink.gif
Lord of the dance
Well, for starters Cale described Tavor as a friend. I agree though that not much is holding the group together. Except Pella's titanic efforts, her muscles straining with the effort, breathing between clenched teeth as sweat pours ... sorry.

Edit: It's Pella's memory we're seeing, note the fluffy frame borders.
BlackFrost
I am thinking mabye protect him from his friends like they may either change his destiny and character so he isnt what he is supposed to be or not like something he does and kill him, I feel kinda dumbnow, THanks Lord because Benny dissapeared lolz, it has to be a memory
A3K
what about THESE red eyes my friends...

http://www.lfgcomic.com/page/78
http://www.lfgcomic.com/page/79
Nexus
QUOTE(Lady Gray @ Dec 18 2008, 01:23 AM) [snapback]346028[/snapback]
Remember, the Bloodrage tribe's eyes turn red when they're pissed. It's even on the cover of that issue. Also, check out Pella's eyes here (last panel) and here (second-to-last panel.) That happens other times, too, but I'm too lazy to go track them down. And while I'm not sure if that's just an artistic way of showing anger or if it's something that actually happens to their eyes, I think it's significant that neither Cale nor Pella's eyes (er, as far as I recall...) ever turn red (tho I also can't think offhand of a time when either of them was really, really angry.) Richard's eyes pretty much always stay yellow, tho, even when he's looking particularly pissed (third panel) or... would you call this annoyed? (last panel) or when he's being menacing (panel two.) Sometimes he has flames in his eyes, like in panel 11 here, and sometimes they're gradated with a bit of red but... I don't think they're ever that flat red. And does he really need the added menace of red eyes???

Not to mention, all of the above ignores the possibility that the eyes on the portrait represent something completely different. One of Cale's enemies that the Archmage mentioned, maybe-- is Tavor back to hiding in those blades, btw? --or even something metaphorical, or less tangible, like Cale's "inner evil." (Wow, how much fun would an evil!Cale be??? Runs the risk of being a plot device if he's suddenly fighting an internal evil, but... evil!Cale!) Maybe the eyes' meaning is less specific, just a general "BAD OMEN EVIL EYES ZOMFG" sorta... thing. Yeah, shut up.

*snip*


Or the eyes could represent Richard. I saw a shadow that resembled his face mask below the eyes, and his hood above them, with a slightly brown (red) tint.

But yeah, you're right; he doesn't even need red eyes. ...then again, you could argue that that isn't Cale because Cale doesn't wear a circlet.


Speaking of the circlet, only royalty wears them, so far.

I want to know now why the Archmage didn't just show Pella who Cale is with his scrying magic. He actually took the time to paint a picture, and even put the mysterious eyes in. Man, must he be bored.

And why Pella? Is there a specific reason or did the Archmage just pick somebody semi-important (a General's daughter)?
Crom The Conqueror
QUOTE(Richard the Great @ Dec 18 2008, 03:14 AM) [snapback]346044[/snapback]
Everyone wondering about the eyes' identity while there's a more important question in front of you: how the heck is Pella's father alive and breathing? Is he some kind of ghost or vision that only Pella and the Archmage can see? blink.gif


It was a memory I think. Of when her father was still alive. Remember that Pella was prepared to fight with our good "heroes" from day one. As I understand it he was training her to guard our good once and future king. It also helps explain why Archmage had a telepathic connection with Pella. On a completely unrelated note, I would just like to voice my undying support for the recent trend of half-naked benny and sweaty dwarf-maiden shots.
Randgrith
I registered because this was not pointed out yet...

The eyes, I naturally though they would be from Sooba. If one looks carefully at the eyes, one can see that there´s a round arc, right above the eye that resembles the top of a head, it would have to be Sooba´s head, so close to the eye and all.

I am not sure about the red though, since Sooba usually presents with a yellow eye.

(final though: Sooba makes sense, right? Being the companion and all...)
BunnyBones
I have decided the red eyes are those of Felbunny. Nobody EVER suspects the Felbunny.

QUOTE(Crom The Conqueror @ Dec 18 2008, 08:41 AM) [snapback]346057[/snapback]
On a completely unrelated note, I would just like to voice my undying support for the recent treand of half-naked benny and sweaty dwarf-maiden shots.


Hear Hear.
Suntiger
You know, I don't like the archmage and his great plans and destinies for various people in the group.
"A glorious destinies gets you a glorious funeral" more often than not...

Just to muddy the waters a bit; it's possible that the red eyes in the backgrou8nd of the painting represent an enemy and Pella having to protect Cale from his friends actually means that she has to protect him from their well-intentioned but wrong advice and/or help.

Too may interpretations possible. wink.gif
Gurluas
QUOTE(A3K @ Dec 18 2008, 01:34 PM) [snapback]346052[/snapback]


Yes could be possible...

QUOTE(Nexus @ Dec 18 2008, 02:35 PM) [snapback]346056[/snapback]
Or the eyes could represent Richard. I saw a shadow that resembled his face mask below the eyes, and his hood above them, with a slightly brown (red) tint.

But yeah, you're right; he doesn't even need red eyes. ...then again, you could argue that that isn't Cale because Cale doesn't wear a circlet.
Speaking of the circlet, only royalty wears them, so far.


The archmage calls Cale "King" in one page.
Eternal
I was thinking the eyes look more like Sooba...but Sooba's eyes are yellow. Maybe a mad Sooba?
Kerrah
QUOTE(Richard the Great @ Dec 18 2008, 11:14 AM) [snapback]346044[/snapback]
Everyone wondering about the eyes' identity while there's a more important question in front of you: how the heck is Pella's father alive and breathing? Is he some kind of ghost or vision that only Pella and the Archmage can see? blink.gif

Ever heard of the word "flashback"?
ChaoticDawn
I really want to know more about Pella's Clan now

like what happened to them to call them the Black Dwarves? (as mentioned in page 175)

damn you cliffhangers!
Xal
I call Tim!
Dorathan
I want sweaty Pella-Pinup picture!!
Kevin
I'm enjoying the Pella flashbacks. Does she paint?
Crom The Conqueror
I believe that was the Archmages painting.
Rayne
I call one of the remaining Bloodrage. \m/

...maybe. laugh.gif
Palomina
To be honest, most of the characters we've met so far manage to lead the rest of the group into some pretty dangerous situations (like here, or here, or even here, just to name a few) so by just being led into danger by his friends Cale will need protecting from the danger he was led into by his friends...

That made no sense whatsoever...but I know what I mean wink.gif

Am off to get a cup of tea and headache pills; anyone else want some?
Lunaya
QUOTE(Greenguy @ Dec 18 2008, 12:48 AM) [snapback]346017[/snapback]
Ummm ... did you mean Tavor?
Cuz if u mean Tavor ... and he were to come back watch out for Lunaya ... she might just run you over

Yay verily, Tavor shall be tackle glomped as no one has ever been tackle glomped before.

QUOTE(Gingerplague @ Dec 18 2008, 01:45 AM) [snapback]346032[/snapback]
yes I did mean Tavor ty for the correction. Oh... and don't worry about Lunaya I have...things in motion <.< >.>

O.o I'm afraid to guess.
Lady Gray
It looks long, but it's actually all quotes, so in fact it is not long. See?

QUOTE(Gingerplague @ Dec 18 2008, 02:45 AM) [snapback]346032[/snapback]
*snip*
Ok now i have to point out someone else's mistake to make myself feel better.... you are thinking of Benny...
QUOTE(Lady Gray @ Dec 18 2008, 04:53 PM) [snapback]346028[/snapback]

Also, check out Pella's eyes here (last panel) and here (second-to-last panel.)

whadda u know... it works.. laugh.gif


And I'd have gotten away with it, too, if it hadn't been for you meddling kids! XD Edit'd! Bwa-ha! Now they'll never know what you were talking about! I'm so sneaky with my crossing-out skillz. >:}
wink.gif

QUOTE(Nexus @ Dec 18 2008, 08:35 AM) [snapback]346056[/snapback]
Or the eyes could represent Richard. I saw a shadow that resembled his face mask below the eyes, and his hood above them, with a slightly brown (red) tint.

But yeah, you're right; he doesn't even need red eyes. ...then again, you could argue that that isn't Cale because Cale doesn't wear a circlet.
Speaking of the circlet, only royalty wears them, so far.

I want to know now why the Archmage didn't just show Pella who Cale is with his scrying magic. He actually took the time to paint a picture, and even put the mysterious eyes in. Man, must he be bored.

And why Pella? Is there a specific reason or did the Archmage just pick somebody semi-important (a General's daughter)?


There's always the chance it's meant to represent something. As Suntiger pointed out:

QUOTE(Suntiger @ Dec 18 2008, 09:41 AM) [snapback]346066[/snapback]
*snip*

Just to muddy the waters a bit; it's possible that the red eyes in the backgrou8nd of the painting represent an enemy and Pella having to protect Cale from his friends actually means that she has to protect him from their well-intentioned but wrong advice and/or help.

Too may interpretations possible. wink.gif


And it's true: there are just too many possibilities to really make a good guess.

Also: I don't think the Archmage painted that. I think Pella did. He's taking off his hood, which sorta implies he just got there. Maybe it's the respectful thing to do when you walk inside, like taking off your hat. Plus this is Pella's workspace, and the paint brushes and water bowl are right there in the background of the last panel. Plus plus (check that out!) if Pella painted it, that explains why the Archmage picked her, if she had some sort of preexisting connection to Cale and his future.

Destiny, and all that jazz.

QUOTE(BunnyBones @ Dec 18 2008, 09:24 AM) [snapback]346064[/snapback]
I have decided the red eyes are those of Felbunny. Nobody EVER suspects the Felbunny.
Hear Hear.


What's hilarious is that you may, just may, be on to something. laugh.gif

QUOTE
*snip*
Am off to get a cup of tea and headache pills; anyone else want some?


Yes, please!
Snuffleupagus
Pella, dwarf girl, is so f'n HOT! wub.gif biggrin.gif
Nexus
QUOTE(Lady Gray @ Dec 18 2008, 11:11 AM) [snapback]346170[/snapback]
Also: I don't think the Archmage painted that. I think Pella did. He's taking off his hood, which sorta implies he just got there. Maybe it's the respectful thing to do when you walk inside, like taking off your hat. Plus this is Pella's workspace, and the paint brushes and water bowl are right there in the background of the last panel. Plus plus (check that out!) if Pella painted it, that explains why the Archmage picked her, if she had some sort of preexisting connection to Cale and his future.


But he's following Pella out, or is oddly approaching from behind. (My point being that we still can't say for sure who painted it.)
MrEasterband
Protect from friends... I'm hoping for Sooba! Since he needs more plot relevance! I miss Sooba...

But to be more realistical I'm guessing that the Archmage knows that Cale's friends will try to lead him towards a path that Cale wants, meaning not the path that the Archmage wants. So Pella's part in this would mean that she is going to try and convince Cale to follow the Archmage's path.

Anyone who understood what I just babbled about, raise your hand.
Crucifer
Anyone not put this one together yet...

Archmage -> Cale -> King.
King from Different Time -> Daughter -> Pella
Pella -> From Different Time -> Kings Heir.
Pella -> Older -> Has Son.
Cale -> Current Time -> Heir to Throne.
Pella -> Cale's Mother.


Cale'Anon of Clan Breem.

O_O

Cale'Anon protection from Himself....hrmmmmm.....hrmmmmm....to the Dark Side Cale....to the Dark Side.

Cale'Anon from his friends...def not Richard...if Pella thought Richard was a the threat mentioned then she would of dispatched him already.

I have a feeling there's a major plot twist/new character coming.
Kerrah
Pella's father is not a king. He's a general.
Venine
Today's comic made me huh.gif

Let's look at the Arch Mages words. He knows of Pella's destiny, as does she.

She has to protect Cale from himself; We've seen Emo-Cale, and we all love him when he gets vicious. Point being, will the time in the void have unleashed something else?

Protect him from his friends; Richard is a love-hate relationship, but still. Benny again, is the same, though she seems to be getting closer to Cale, sort of, as of late. Krunch... I'm un-sure about, but the thing they all have in common is the whole 'red eyes when pissed off' attribute; So maybe Cale takes a path they don't like, or does something to piss them all off.

Finally, to protect him from his enemies; as a King, there'll be plenty of those.

So Pella is either Cale's guardian, bodyguard, lover to be or whatever... Meh, I'm all for Pella/Cale relationship, but for now, i'm quite conent to sit back & let this tale tell itself, it's only beginning to get interesting.
Crucifer
QUOTE(Kerrah @ Dec 18 2008, 02:44 PM) [snapback]346314[/snapback]
Pella's father is not a king. He's a general.


Partially correct...it seems in the comic the Archmage is ruler of their village. The command of General means ruler of Clan Breem as you see the dwarves form to him. He also refers to Pella as his Heir.

Now I could of mistaken this...he could of meant King of Gamlon...that would make him that little princess's son that he helped save.

^ Also possible.
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