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Scaramouche
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GothicMoocow
Dont 0.0
addiction my friend.. addiction
HEATH MY WARNING!!!!
AND RUNNNN
pentheraphobia
WoW has the largest community, and most people are gonna tell you it's better (and honestly, I've played both, WoW ends up being favorable).


And rogues aren't just light thiefy guys. >.> They employ cheap tactics and feats of agility and cunning and luck and precision etc.. however they do have to get past the warrior's huge damage mitigation. If the warrior is defensive, then it'll beat any rogue any day, but fury warriors don't stand much a chance. Arms is in between.


edit: But I was barely able to quit. I'm lucky to get out alive.. yet I still have the memories.. and sometimes I find myself talking about it as though I'd never quit at all.....
GothicMoocow
QUOTE(pentheraphobia @ Oct 29 2008, 09:08 PM) [snapback]314656[/snapback]
WoW has the largest community, and most people are gonna tell you it's better (and honestly, I've played both, WoW ends up being favorable).
And rogues aren't just light thiefy guys. >.> They employ cheap tactics and feats of agility and cunning and luck and precision etc.. however they do have to get past the warrior's huge damage mitigation. If the warrior is defensive, then it'll beat any rogue any day, but fury warriors don't stand much a chance. Arms is in between.
edit: But I was barely able to quit. I'm lucky to get out alive.. yet I still have the memories.. and sometimes I find myself talking about it as though I'd never quit at all.....

Thats why rogues like me used stun. what stun proff? blind!*** no? vanish!

my rogue used its "cheap" tricks to beat any class
i was surpised how easy i did it on my druid
i could take on lvls 10 higher then me with so much ease compared to a rogue. i was like .. "hell .. yes!"

Edit: yes. wows better. but be warnned it gets addicting- u be better off spending time reading books.
pentheraphobia
I once had a shammy who beat a druid 7 levels higher than me.

but the druid has rez sickness, so, yeah. (I was 12, he was 19.)
GothicMoocow
QUOTE(pentheraphobia @ Oct 29 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]314671[/snapback]
I once had a shammy who beat a druid 7 levels higher than me.

but the druid has rez sickness, so, yeah. (I was 12, he was 19.)

Well duh. a lvl 10rogue can be a lvl 30 hunter with res sickness -.-
pentheraphobia
I wouldn't know, Shu'halo is the lowest population Normal server in existence. .-.
GothicMoocow
QUOTE(pentheraphobia @ Oct 29 2008, 09:26 PM) [snapback]314675[/snapback]
I wouldn't know, Shu'halo is the lowest population Normal server in existence. .-.

sounds like a new sever, or not Western/US
but ya. res sickness is really lame cause it just gives unfair advantages to ppl
and most of the time ppl have to res due to a glicth in the game
i once died outside of uc and then poped up infront of the instance "DM"
i was only lvl 10!!!
>.>
or when u fall through the zep. that was fun.
have to swim to shore and catch teh next one hopin it dont drop u (i use to climb on the weird parts of the zep just in case lol)
Legendaryratboy
My advice for playing MMORPGs is the same as my advice for watching TV... don't, they're a voracious and insatiable time waster that will grab you with steel claws and is nearly impossible to escape from.
theLandpirate
Don't get into MMO's. They're more addicting than crack
get a x-box instead
GothicMoocow
QUOTE(theLandpirate @ Oct 29 2008, 10:55 PM) [snapback]314754[/snapback]
Don't get into MMO's. They're more addicting than crack
get a x-box instead

hes right
xbox down the road is cheaper and more fun
get it live and play agiasnt other ppl
then u can actually have LAN parties
were u can interact with real ppl and play as a team


its alot better then MMOs
Scaramouche
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pentheraphobia
QUOTE(GothicMoocow @ Oct 30 2008, 12:30 AM) [snapback]314681[/snapback]
sounds like a new sever, or not Western/US


It is quite US, thank you. And it had already been around for 2+ years when I joined in April of 2007. To think it still gets low, recommended even, made me laugh pretty hard. dx
Triforceelf
A few tips for any game.

1. DONT STAND IN THE FIRE!

2. Find someone who knows what they are doing and follow them around. Act like when you copy them, it was your idea first.

ABlindManSees
What about Warhammer online? I haven't played it myself but everyone I've talked to says it's better than WoW and less addicting and also a bit more realistic with the fighting:

ie: a couple level 2s could take down a level 5
niarBaD
I vote Warhammer Online. In my opinion it is better than WoW because it's grittier. More realistic, you can level up PvP or PvE, however if you only do one you'd be missing out. They made PvP fun in this game and have a balancing system to keep people stats roughly the same in PvP. You'd be missing out by neglecting this possibility.
Redington
My friend was playing Warhammer Online and he told me basically it's mostly PVP. Obviously, he didn't tell me everything but from the impression I get from him that it's more focused on PVP than PVE. I'm not saying that's a bad thing since people have different tastes, but just wanted to point that out. My friend is coming back to WoW after playing Warhammer for a little while.


I mean, it depends on how developed the game really is. Generally when a mmo comes out, it's not going to be at it's prime just after hitting the shelves obviously because they still need to work out bugs and stuff that people find broken or not properly functioning. That and most mmo's don't put all their content out at once since then they won't be able to keep people hooked on the game for years to come like most mmos do.



What it comes down to really, is what are your preferences for games. If you like playing against other people than, Warhammer maybe be a better choice for you. If you like a mix, then WoW could be a possibility. If you like uhm... whatever Age of Conan's strongpoints are then AoC is a good choice.

That goes for that kind of mmo,


For space mmos... uhm.. the only good one that I know if is EVE Online. Which has a very steep learning curve for a person that is just getting into mmos. It is very PVP-based as you can basically pick a fight with anyone as long as you have the firepower and manpower to back up your fight. And there's no leveling up to it in the sense you have to get to an end level; it's more of taking time to train skills than leveling. Skills traing even while you are not online so you can set a long skill to train over a long period of time if you see yourself not playing for awhile so you can get it out of the way or you can do all kinds of stuff with it.

I know this becaus I played EVE for a little while but I didn't really get far because I guess I was doing it wrong and didn't seek help to get ahead where I could have. I definitely recommend finding someone nice that plays the game and get advice from them.




As for other mmos, *shrug*
WarlockFTW
QUOTE(Scaramouche @ Oct 29 2008, 11:55 PM) [snapback]314634[/snapback]
I'm considering getting into an online game, and at the moment the front-runners are WOW and EQ2. Naturally I'll consider several factors when choosing which game to play.

First, I want to be clear, all I've played is WoW, so you shouldn't listen to my advise, heh.

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Community.

I would expect the communities to be about the same. I'm sure both are very large, probably equally as active. But I welcome any discussion of this.

WoW has a stupid community in most of the servers I play, best thing to do, don't ask for advise or facts on Alliance and turn off trade chat on Horde. I like the stupidity, though, so I don't care =P

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Graphics.

I wasn't impressed with the WOW graphics, last time I had a look. EQ2 did look better.

Not really much to comment on. WoW updated the graphics, so the spells look better. That's it. I don't care, the rest makes up for it.

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Character types.

I like a lot of variety and the ability to customize. It seems EQ2 is ahead on this point, but I'm not sure.

Again, not much to say. WoW now has hairstylists, so you can change your hairdo and color anytime you want, for a price, but not much else.

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Gameplay/Rules.

Which has the better gameplay? The better rules? Best moderation?

When you need the mods, they are there, but kinda standoffish. I wouldn't know, I don't feel like writing out tickets, so I never talked to one, but short of hacking and dead baby jokes in trade chat there isn't much reinforcement. Mostly why there's a leave chat button in the options =P

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Inexplicable crap.

Now one thing I find utterly stupid in many games these days is the whacky idea that a rogue/thief/etc is a better warrior than a trained warrior. Like some little lightweight with a leather shirt and a dagger will have better attack and defence than a serious warrior in plate armour with a huge freakin sword. I'm told this unfortunate bit of bizzaro crap is the case in WOW, that lightweight thiefy dudes with tiny little daggers are better warriors than the actual warriors. Is this true?

Well, you have to take into account balance. Any game wants a balanced, wide character selection. If warriors owned thieves, mages, and every other character in the game, everyone would play warriors, and none of the others. IMO I think WoW has a decent balance, but the rogues are kind of overpowered >.> Alliance pretty much kicks @$$ in BattleGrounds, too. Anyhow, character balance will take a chunk out of reality, but it makes the game more playable.

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Price.

I'll be making a ton of money as soon as I begin my new job, but it's always good to check out prices.

WoW is expensive. You just have to decide how much you want it =P

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Other games.

Are there any other online games these days which can match those two in terms of size and quality?

Wouldn't know blink.gif

QUOTE(theLandpirate @ Oct 30 2008, 01:55 AM) [snapback]314754[/snapback]
Don't get into MMO's. They're more addicting than crack

Lol. True.

QUOTE(Triforceelf @ Oct 30 2008, 09:54 AM) [snapback]314821[/snapback]
2. Find someone who knows what they are doing and follow them around. Act like when you copy them, it was your idea first.


Please don't -.- That's the most annoying thing in the world.

So no, I'm no game connoisseur, I just thought I'd offer my stupid opinions, you probably didn't read half of it wink.gif But I did give warning at the beginning. So now it's your fault.
Emi
Don't do it.

if you MUST do it, go for Warhammer.

Wow's been around too long, you'll have to buy the game and two expansions, and you'll be years behind everybody else's accrued knowledge. Also Wow continually dumbs down the game to try and hold on to young players and non-gamer players.
Warhammer has the benefits of all the lessons learned by Wow without having to deal with the mistakes as well. Warhammer also doesn't have insane auction house and item level inflation that wow has incurred.

But anyway, don't do it. Take up salsa dancing or learn to sew or join a shooting club or something.
delta_mouse3
MMO's are very addicting. WoW has also been called World of Warcrack. One of my friends said I shouldn't play, I shouldn't "Come over to the dark side." Also, I've talked to some of my friends that play WoW; that game takes so much time to do one simple mission that it isn't even funny. So, MMO's are like drugs, just say NO!
Jabba
Take the wow trial. If you like the game, play it, if not, dont bother.

Saying anything else is useless, as we are all different, some people get addicted, some people dont, some peopl like WoW some prefer EQ2.

Try it and judge for yourself. IF you MUST play an MMO, i dont see why you shouldnt play something you know you like.
Taz
All I've played was WoW, and I'm still playing it.

QUOTE(Scaramouche @ Oct 29 2008, 10:55 PM) [snapback]314634[/snapback]
Community.

I would expect the communities to be about the same. I'm sure both are very large, probably equally as active. But I welcome any discussion of this.

Depends on where you go. If you go to a PvP forum, expect a lot of bragging, name-calling, and other basic aggression.
In general, if you do go to a forum asking for help, you'll get a helpful post or two, and five or six telling you to just play the game.

QUOTE(Scaramouche @ Oct 29 2008, 10:55 PM) [snapback]314634[/snapback]
Graphics.

I wasn't impressed with the WOW graphics, last time I had a look. EQ2 did look better.

I will say this, NEVER choose a game based on graphics. One of the most fun games I've played was Master of Magic for DOS, and it's still fun to play. I has NO storyline and has, well, DOS graphics!
QUOTE(Scaramouche @ Oct 29 2008, 10:55 PM) [snapback]314634[/snapback]
Character types.

I like a lot of variety and the ability to customise. It seems EQ2 is ahead on this point, but I'm not sure.

Define customize. More abilities for each class? Pretty outfits? General look of the character? I know they've added a barber shop in WoW for hair changes. Now all I see is humans walking around with "super sayan hair".
QUOTE(Scaramouche @ Oct 29 2008, 10:55 PM) [snapback]314634[/snapback]
Gameplay/Rules.

Which has the better gameplay? The better rules? Best moderation?

I enjoy the gameplay of WoW. If you look at the screen of a level 70, it all seems daunting with all the buttons and abilities and addons etc. It all builds up over time, it starts out slow, then grows into a mammoth game.
QUOTE(Scaramouche @ Oct 29 2008, 10:55 PM) [snapback]314634[/snapback]
Inexplicable crap.

Now one thing I find utterly stupid in many games these days is the whacky idea that a rogue/thief/etc is a better warrior than a trained warrior. Like some little lightweight with a leather shirt and a dagger will have better attack and defence than a serious warrior in plate armour with a huge freakin sword. I'm told this unfortunate bit of bizzaro crap is the case in WOW, that lightweight thiefy dudes with tiny little daggers are better warriors than the actual warriors. Is this true?

Its not THAT the rogue has daggers, its WHERE the rogue puts the daggers.
Think of it this way, the rogue is the first guy who will stab you in the crotch if it means he lives.
I think that every class is beatable, just not by every other class. Approach it like rock, paper, scissors.
Sure, a Rogue may eat a Warrior, but a Hunter almost always eats a Rogue. I think Warriors may have the easiest time against Warlocks and Priests.
QUOTE(Scaramouche @ Oct 29 2008, 10:55 PM) [snapback]314634[/snapback]
Price.

I'll be making a ton of money as soon as I begin my new job, but it's always good to check out prices.

15 bucks a month for WoW.
QUOTE(Scaramouche @ Oct 29 2008, 10:55 PM) [snapback]314634[/snapback]
Other games.

Are there any other online games these days which can match those two in terms of size and quality?

no clue, WoW is coming out with another expansion soon raising the level cap to 80 and giving the players a total of 4 continents to explore.
Kalimdor, Eastern Kingdoms, Outland, and then Northrend.

Then there is the 10 races, each with an ability (some passive, others activated) which are only usable by their respective class.
Alliance: Humans, Dwarves, Gnomes, Night Elves, and Draenei
Horde: Orcs, Trolls, Tauren, Undead, and Blood Elves

Then there are the 9 classes (soon to be 10) which when combined with the classes make a rock, paper, scissors effect.
Druid, Hunter, Mage, Shaman, Priest, Warlock, Warrior, Mage, Paladin, and once WotLK comes out, the Dark Knight.
niarBaD
QUOTE(Redington @ Oct 30 2008, 06:16 PM) [snapback]315133[/snapback]
[color=#4169E1][font=Franklin Gothic Medium]My friend was playing Warhammer Online and he told me basically it's mostly PVP. Obviously, he didn't tell me everything but from the impression I get from him that it's more focused on PVP than PVE.


Honestly, it can be. IF YOU WANT IT TO BE. Is the issue though, they give you every opportunity to switch between PVP and PVE at will and made it fun both ways. That's why WoW is only a PvE game, because they never got the balance down on PvP, they never got it to be fun. Now Warhammer of course has a few issues, but none of them are game breaking "I'm going to quit because this one is so much better than the rest of the classes" at best they're doing minor adjustments to the classes based on what they see not giant nerfs or giant buffs which are more likely to upset the balance than fix it.

Really, if you have a choice between Warhammer and WoW i'd pick Warhammer only because you have more options in that game than you do in WoW as to how you wish to proceed. That and finding a group in Warhammer = 10000x easier than WoW ^^
theLandpirate
you could always try City of Heroes/City of Villains

Community: Surprisingly, the game has a lot of friendly people around. Most of the people have been playing for 9+ months, so they'll give out good advice and are fun to be around

Graphics: Meh, they don't give u a headache but aren't as fantastic as AoC

Character Types: Their are hundreds of character types, hero or villain. You can finetune your appearance to just the way you like it, and even change the body shape with sliders. It isn't just changing the hairstyle in this game.

Gameplay/rules: Mostly PvE, with a dash of PvP thrown in for flavor. Solo play gets kind of boring after a while, but the team play is ridiculously fun. I've heard the customer service is pretty good, I've never had any up-front service with them though. The game has been out for 4 years, so everything is pretty balanced and fun to play.

Inexplicable crap: This is not a fantasy game. The entire game takes place in a city, so if your looking for magical english forests with huge bears, this is not the game for you.

Price: The game is $20 US dollars, and subscription is $15 a month. Every expansion that has been released has been free, which is a huge plus



oh, and you can fly with a cape in this game biggrin.gif
Scaramouche
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Jiriyn
Everquest > WoW.


Simple as that.


Feel free to visit me on the Quellious server on EQ. Names Predator Jiriyn the Void Seeker smile.gif
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