I started horde, I'm going to stay that way, at least for now.

lol I've been told the horde is evil, and that I am an evil person for playing them. what do you guys make of this?

the hoard is not evil, just misunderstood.

And what do you have to say about Richard?
He's evil.

I go alliance btw.

I have a bit of both. Mainly I'm alliance because I raid as alliance. But I also have a lvl 67 horde druid; although, I haven't played him in awhile. Lately I've been playing a blood elf priest; she's only lvl 25.

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I met to do that.

sometimes the connection lags, this was probably one of those times.

as for richard, he's funny.

Why thank you.

i started horde but then switched becuase of my friends but im starting back with the HORDE!!!!!!

go to Mug' Thol

join my guild "Mine is for Ponies"
- Forponys

I am alliance, Rexxar. You and your horde can come get facemelted by my mangle spam.

Good and Evil are all based on societies views. Things you do in one place are sometimes considered a virtue, while in other places it can be a crime. Of course we don't look at kicking the Indians aside out of their land as a crime, i'm pretty sure they did.

That depends. If you dont think the forsaken are evil, you is messed up in teh heads. Go watch the wrath gate cinematic for proof. yes thats not all the forsaken, but lets face it, zombies are not lawful good. Or even Neutral good or chaotic good. The best they can hope for is maybe lawful neutral or something.

The forsaken are not the ones in the cinematic, that's the Scourage. The forsaken are free willed "zombies" and can have what ever alignment they want.

SPOILERS!


[spoiler]Considering the dude says "Face the wrath of the forsaken! Death to the Scourge! AND DEATH TO THE LIVING!" And proceeds to WTF pwn Bolivar and Arthas I think its safe to say he is Forsaken and not scourge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO0RAcxZQ4M...feature=related

Also, the leader is obviously from 4chan. That automatically makes them evil.

[/spoiler]

that was awesome! glad i'm on his team

Unless your already undead, no your not.

Personally, I want to be on the side with the dragons.

Richard,FTW

Im a minority, i mean i have both but really i just play ally.

Minority buds?

thats stupid. it seems to me that a lot of the problems with Azeroth have been caused by the Alliance.


undead are more chaotic neutral. theyre in it for themselves, but arent really going to go out of there way to kill more people, like our favorite warlock.

1. Yes, the alliance has caused just as many messes as the horde. At this point, its more like WWI when it comes to the alliance and the horde. Lots of hurt feelings and old hatreds with big armies and no one backing down.

As for the forsaken...

Taken from wowwiki "The Royal Apothecary Society, a sect of Forsaken alchemists, are fanatically loyal to the Dark Lady. Recently, the alchemists were assigned by Sylvanas to a project to create a master plague, similar to Ner’zhul’s, to wipe out the living races as well as the Scourge. The apothecary Faranell heads the project, constructing a new plague to wipe out all of humanity and the Forsaken’s nemesis, the Scourge. So far, the Society has not yet produced results. Since the world at large refuses to accept them as people instead of undead, they will continue their dark designs to eliminate all non-Forsaken life forms on Azeroth. However, at this point their plague kills only humans, and doesn’t affect the Scourge at all. The Royal Apothecary Society believes that their usefulness to the Dark Lady may be coming to an end. If they cannot finish their master plague soon, they may find their Society disbanded. Due to repeated failures by the society to make a new plague of undeath, Sylvanas has recruited necromancers to find other means of raising slain enemies, into her cause."

http://www.wowwiki.com/New_plague

Richard would fit right in. The forsaken as a rule are Evil aligned. There are exceptions and plenty of them (hell look at the Ardent Dawn forsaken in Lights Hope Chapel. Hes Lawful Good) but for the most part member of the forsaken faction are evil. Its not because I hate them, its from a lore standpoint and how their alignments are in the RPG. Again, look at the wowwiki page for reference.

i've been reading up on wow lore lately, damn theres alot...

Half of the immature kiddies pick Alliance because they say Alliance is "good" and Horde is "evil" and they want to be heroes. The other half picks Horde because they say Horde is "badass" and Alliance are "wusses" and they don't wanna be wusses.

Now both are wrong.

I picked my main to be a Night Elf, why, becuase I like their lore, I like their character and so on. I just wish they would have been portrayed more like a real Kaldorei in-game. I mean, Night Elf females act liek bloody cheerleaders, that's so totally out of character for the race...a true Kaldorei is proud, arrogant and reserved. And that's how I play my rogue.

Besides, WoW has 10M worldwide players, and at least 99.9% of them are not worth my attention.

Which is why I don't play as them.

I'll play good guys or bad guys. I won't play "misunderstood" characters. It shits me up the wall.

I chose horde because my friend plays horde, and now i'm drafted for them

I chose undead because of the dance.

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Half of the immature kiddies pick Alliance because they say Alliance is "good" and Horde is "evil" and they want to be heroes.

I always thought it was the kiddies wanted to play alliance so they could be Legolas or other LotR character and that's how the alliances ended up with most of the noobs while more veteran players played horde because they are tired/don't care about alliances races and found the horde races more interesting.

Interesting had nothing to do with it.

The Alliance races were prettier and the Horde has much better racials.

Well you know the kiddies make an undead lock and name it Ríchard too. There are kiddies and veterans on both sides. You can get the immature kiddie QQ at Horde too...

But as I said, 99.9% of WoW players are not worth my attentinon and those that are are evenly spread between alliance and horde.

And frankly, the alliance has more population, meaning more immature kiddies to besmirch the name of the alliance. What can a competent rogue do all alone?

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Well you know the kiddies make an undead lock and name it Ríchard too. There are kiddies and veterans on both sides. You can get the immature kiddie QQ at Horde too...

Which isn't enough because LotR has waaaaaaayyyyy more popularity and wide-spread familiarity to people that LFG comic has.

Or so it started. Turns out perception was the most OP'd racial in the entire game. Now its getting nerfed, but humans are getting a free PVP trinket. Who knew?

Compared to an AoE stun and a built in PvP trinket, giving Human Rogues an edge over other rogues isn't exactly game-breaking.

When they took the cast time off the gnomish Escape Artist, it was almost worth having except the only classes people play as gnomes don't get the most benefit of a free escape from snares.

Still doesn't make a player who picks alliance a noob by default.

Actually blizzard has been claiming that perception was the only racial to statistically boost peoples arena ratings. Total bullshit I know, but now humans get a racial thats actually OP in the form of a free PVP trinket. I personally think the nerf to shadow meld was kinda uncalled for. I mean seriously, who actually thinks that SHADOW MELD is OP?

Shadowmeld with a Night Elf rogue, in an arena, can allow a rogue to eat, stealthed, pop up, sprint to the arena buff, and stealth. Total visible time? .5 seconds.

Shadowmeld is also a level +1 stealth detection level, makes some items, catseye elixir, null with 5/5 master of deception. (3/3 wotlk.)

Shadowmeld, for rogues, and druids, was far more beneficial than, say any other NE class.

I rolled Alliance, and I honestly don't remember why. I wish I would've rolled an Orc lock instead of my damn human, for both the lore and the appearence..

Orcs = second most legit looking race in WoW, the first being Draenei imo.

Some folks need to look up warcraft lore if they think horde is evil. That's all I'm going to say.

The First Horde, governed by Shadow Council was indubitably evil. Most of people have not made it far enough to leave old hatreds behind. And 99.9% of WoW players CBA with lore. It saddens me.

Yup, but now the horde wants to destroy the Shadow Council.

Lore is an important part of the game, in my opinion.

It's an RPG for a reason.

Unfortunately, WOW became all about the numbers. Who can DPS the most, the best stats, the honor points... players only looked at the numbers. If you numbered too low, you were just a noob. That's what made me quit.

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Still doesn't make a player who picks alliance a noob by default.

I never said it was.

Tell that to those 9.9 million nabs out there >.<

I agree, of course. And well I think WotLK will be rich on lore one way or another. I just blame Blizz for forgetting about Gilneas and for still not letting us explore Nazjatar.

This reminds me of the other night on Emerald Dreams, an RPPVP server...and tehre were some people RPing in UC. There were two blood elf paladins and an undead rogue and the female paladin was upset because she got the "12 year old rogue drunk"

Kayhynn, my warlock, walked up and tapped her on the shoulder and said "Excuse me, but you're worried about getting one of the Forsaken drunk? He's already dead? What is he going to do? Become undead....oh wait, he already is. It could make him more flamable tho, because alcohol is flamable, and undead skin is dry and brittle...it has possibilities."

There was stunned silence followed by a lot of laughing and a "True..."

I hate the way the Kaldorei are portrayed in game. My rogue is a typical one lore-wise. Arrogant, and a cold bitch who can't say she loves the lesser races. So she gets into an argument with a human paladin who goes on and on about how Elune is just a bunch of crap etc, and well my line was something like:

"Say that again and you'll see why nobody likes the look of my blades up close" okay? It would be if it wasn't followed by the...

*bounce bounce bounce* animation!!!

It so bloody killed the RP....come on, a true night elf is caveman-wild, not cheerleader-wild!

That whole thought above made me start laughing, sorry Vegos.

Yeah, but when you want lore I think you'd want to take something with a little more depth than Warcraft.


That's true in any competitive setting. If you let people compete against one another, they'll want to do better than each other.

And the fact is, even when people aren't extreme about it there's almost always some noticeable amount of metagaming going on in any RPG.

Heh don't apologize, it was hella funny in a way. But you know, it broke the moment at that point...

I'm looking forward to encountering Kel'Thuzad once again, he's one of my favorite lore characters. And the Heigan dance of course.

I think you hit the nail on the head. Almost everyone who games has a competitive streak to one degree or another and sees gaming as a venue for competing. Why else is it always a race to see who can top the DPS charts or who can get the shiniest piece of gear?

Because it's shiny?

But its even better if its shinier then your friends/enemies/whoever.