QUOTE(The Lone David @ Jul 20 2008, 04:15 AM) [snapback]250031[/snapback]
Whatever happened to real heroes? Why do you need to idolize a made up character when the world is filled with people like Ghandi, Malcolm X, or Martin Luther King Jr? Or couldn't your father be your hero? Or maybe it's your mother? Or somebody you just happen to know who somehow manages to stay sane while her husband gets fired from his job and she's only making a first year teachers salary, while still taking her son to soccer games.
I know Ghandi was a racist (hated black people quite noticeably) and I'm sure the other two famous people had their lovely quirks too. My dad's a self-loathing narcissist with an alcohol abuse problem. My mum's a schizophrenic dimwit who's blatantly unable to look after herself let alone her [other] children. And maybe it's just me but you don't suddenly become heroic by doing what you're
supposed to do so your example with the single mother isn't very compelling either. She's a hero because her husband got fired? Or because she has a low-paying job? Or because she, like a competent parent, manages to take her kid to the scheduled soccer games?
At what point does the heroism come into it? Because I don't buy the Everyone Is A Hero In Their Own Way bullshit.
QUOTE(The Lone David @ Jul 20 2008, 04:15 AM) [snapback]250031[/snapback]
I have to tell ya, it kinda makes me sick if you choose some anime character over a real person. Goddamnit, we should all be saying WG is our hero because of all he's gone through, the man can still make us laugh after... well I won't tell you what happened to him.
And I have to tell you that your promoting hero worship of a human being, prone to all the flaws and foibles the rest of us have, is sickening in itself. What, you think you're any better? You're not. You're doing the exact same thing that they are only you're probably worse because doing it with people involves actively lying to ourselves. There's a reason people refer to hero-worship as putting someone on a pedestal. You ignore their faults and focus on their supposed virtues.
People aren't heroic for surviving bad shit. As someone who's survived some bad shit, I feel I'm in a good position to know. Being funny after bad shit isn't really a heroic trait either. Of course, you're solemnly determined to have your head up your arse here so let's break it down, shall we?
Anime characters are a part of our culture. Modern myths and legends. The fact that myths (and later folk tales, fairy tales and fantasy) have been a part of all human cultures all over the world speaks to a human need to idealise and idolise. And I hate to break it to you but whether you're admiring Achilles or Naruto, you're admiring a fictitious construct. A device created to express some part of our species' psyche. The standard we'd like to reach. There are all sorts of nuance in there but the basic gist of it is simple: human beings are pathologically wired to admire and worship powerful and charismatic figures. We need them to be perfect. Fundamentally grand in a way your average chump isn't.
And when you focus this need onto another person, well, then we start the lies. Gandhi did a lot of good but I'll be damned if I worship someone who actively campaigned in South Africa that Indians weren't like those lazy, worthless niggers. Of course, if you weren't so absolutely focussed on being a "serious and mature" eighteen (or is it nineteen now?) years old, you might have actually learned that a) people frequently discuss "serious and mature" topics in a light-hearted way because nobody gives a shit about your deep, dark emotions until
after they like you and B) the worship you propose we should have is even more empty than what they're feeling for the anime characters.
As an immensely analytic person, not burdened with much in the way of feeling, I can assure you that worshipping some one or thing because we "ought to" is an empty and pointless activity. I don't look at anybody as a hero so I'd know. I could go through the motions but what you're really suggesting is that everybody else should
be different until they're like you.
How deliciously like my perspective.