Watch this all the way through and listen closly to it. Tell me what you think of it. My personal opinion is this crossed a certain line, the line between reasonable conflict and utterly retarded. I would seriously smack this kid across the face for this.

Does this cross the line?

Also, what do you think crosses the line? What have you seen that makes you think "I would smack that person for being so dumb."

Heh. I've done that before, but less whiney.

You sir, Have crossed the line! LOL

It's a situation I simply do not understand. Mostly my relatives are pretty intensely intimidated by me so they don't often attempt to tell me what to do.

Verbose, stop -

You are an insignifigant sack of meat. Leave.

*whimpering*

Hey, don't ask me. I don't understand why they're intimidated.

Well, I understand why my mum is intimidated but that's because she's a very weak person and I quietly play on her fears that I'll simply abandon her. But everybody else shouldn't be so scared of me. It's not like I could do anything to most of them and I've never even hinted I would.

Oh, except for the one uncle who knows I may get a little stabby if he tries to talk to me again.

*rolls eyes*

Guess there are all kinds of people.

Im gonna be nice to Fly and ask, what crosses the lines for you guys? For me its just a person who lose and argument but holds on to the topic as if for dear life. I might seriously snap through few minutes of that, it kills me when Dan- I mean Fly does that to me.

If i was that kids parents, at crying scene one, i would have gave him something to really cry about and that comp would be thrown out the window. Either that or i would just go and cancel the subscription and change the password.

In my defence, I freely and openly threaten physical violence on the uncle who I really dislike because he was a small man who spent a number of years in prison. His will to stand up to people physically bigger than him has long since shattered and seeing as he's a coward, so long as I'm resolute in my "talk to me and you get hurt" stance then he's too much of a coward to ever do more than mumble a greeting or farewell to try and appear like the kind and forgiving older relative to others.

The minute the kid said "But mom," it would have been "Yes, your butt is going to be red if you don't shut the computer off now. I don't give a fuck what game you're playing or why, it shuts off, or I shut it off for you. If you don't do it and I do it, and it ruins the motherboard/videocard/anything else, that will be your problem because you're being an idiot to argue with me."

The argument would have been ended at first word out of his mouth.

Can we just lock them all up on an island with nothing but Martha Stewart magazines and Ensure?

PLEASE?

Not having any progeny of my own I can't say what I would do other than I would like to think my minion would have never gotten to that point. And if they had they wouldn't be such a whiny pathetic bitch. Come on, those threats and psychological attacks were PIDDLING. "How you're reacting to it" is tearing the family apart? OH PLEASE! No what you need to say is "I use this game to escape your terrible *insert main parental foible such as drinking overeating binge shopping obsessive nagging* it is the only freedom I have away from YOU and the foul air you exude!"

Or something to that effect.

And I have gotten that whiny when I was younger. The sad sad sad thing is it was over books. I was soooo upset (read: crying and having a tantrum on the ground IN PUBLIC) because I wasn't allowed to take out more than 10 books at the library. Mom had to haul my ass out of there.

The line in the sand is really if it's a repeatable behavior. If so then a flogging is in order.

Flo, if it was over books then your parents are doing something right.

Yeah, but with most any competent parenting, the kid would never have tried that angle.

You only whine like that because it's worked for you before. Kids are opportunistic little parasites early in their lives - they change their behaviour to whatever gets their sticky little fingers on the goal. Whichever style works best is what they stick with and by the time they're, what, ten? That's pretty much who they are.

I've known good parents, a couple of great parents and a whole boatload of horrible parents. The kids always indicate the most effective behaviour against their parents.


Or something really quite perversely wrong.

Oh shit yes. I still do it. Works like a charm. When you're raising your children - have no mercy, show no weakness and give no quarter. This is a war that just popped out of your vagoo.
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What kind of books we talkin' bout here?

Exactly right.

Best behaved kids come from the parents who only reward good behaviour. You need to set your Geneva convention rules in stone early on.


You see the thrust of my point.

Fantasy books! I wanted the ENTIRE Belgariad series in one sitting. My problem is, when handed a series, I will NOT STOP reading it till it's done. Even if that takes days. Reading til passing out mmm mm my fav.

And yeah my folks didn't do too bad. I WAS an only child so the level of spoiling was higher than average. But I was such an odd kid that they didn't wind up dealing with the drugs/dating/sex until I was in my 20s. And by then they figured they could wash their hands of it and let me fug up my own life.

Although... mom and I had a huge row when I checked out a romance novel (some stupid silhouette one without even a clinch on the cover... I think it had aliens or something in it). It DID have sex in it and I was 13. So she wigged and told me I had to throw the book away. Not return it. Throw it out. Well I didn't want to PAY for the damn thing. So we fought and romance novels became verboten... and highly titillating after that.

There was this "25 ways to know you're a teacher" list in the teacher's bathroom at my school. The final thing on the list was something to the effect of "You know exactly why a kid behaves the way they do when you meet their parents". It is terribly true.

I really, really, really, really want to smack that kid. Seriously.

I am currently working on a time machine/teleporter just so i can kill that kid during the making of that video.

It's true that a good parent wouldn't need to deal with such behavior because the kid would allready be well educated enough to not do it. I'll yet again plug an author who I very much admire (except for his most recent novel) Carlos Cuautemoch Sanchez, who has written in various of his book different essential points about raising children, if you're interested, yo can check the websie, because I'm too lazy to actually tell you wat those points are.