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Wise Goblin
What is Scientology exactly? I have seen parodies, jokes and all sorts of silly rumors. But what is the actual religion? Im just full on curious at this point. Please post what it is not what you heard it is.
Stalgar
Its some religion where they believe the 'overlord xenu' brought us here and then something about a volcano and that we're all just alien souls.

Thats really the only facts I know about it, other then its retarded and everyone hates them and... if I said anymore the plans would be ruined.
Grym
Scientology.

This wouldn't happen to have anything to do with my new signature, would it? unsure.gif

EDIT:
QUOTE(wikipedia)
Among these advanced teachings, one episode revealed to those who reach OT level III is the story of Xenu (sometimes Xemu), introduced as an alien ruler of the "Galactic Confederacy." According to this story, 75 million years ago Xenu brought billions of people to Earth in spacecraft resembling Douglas DC-8 airliners, stacked them around volcanoes and blew them up with hydrogen bombs. Their souls then clustered together, stuck to the bodies of the living and continue to do this today. Hubbard called these clustered spirits "Body Thetans," and advanced-level Scientologists place considerable emphasis on isolating these alien souls and neutralizing their ill effects.[77]


I actually don't think this comprises the main part of their beliefs. It was pretty far down the wiki.
Darkhawk
the way i understand it is that its a brain washing cult, o.O
Wise Goblin
Wow.....just wow........oh and about the sig. LOL, I did not notice it until now though maybe I subconsciously saw it and acted upon that.....or perhaps the space lord Xenu commanded me to make this post. Who made this up? How old is it? Any one know?
Stalgar
QUOTE(Wise Goblin @ Jun 2 2008, 08:53 PM) [snapback]211522[/snapback]
Who made this up? How old is it? Any one know?

Some person who had mental defects, Too old, Not really.
Darkhawk
i read far enough into the article to know that the guy who started it worked really hard in the 50's, 'preached' it through the 60's when he officially said it was a religion because of the standers it had. there have been arguments for awhile, but i don't think its been a big issue till the past 5-10 years or so. Ever since people talked about Tom cruise being apart of it or whatever, i've heard a lot of crap about it. my *very* religious christen grandparents thinks its so wrong and stuff, how its a huge cult, ect. ect. gogo old people hatin.
Grym
Made by a Sci-fi writer. Kid you not.
Wise Goblin
sooooo....its not old......its made by a Sci fi writer....and people buy this?
Taz
QUOTE(Grym @ Jun 2 2008, 07:46 PM) [snapback]211515[/snapback]
I actually don't think this comprises the main part of their beliefs. It was pretty far down the wiki.


Couldn't be further from the truth. It is the center of the entire religion. After many years (and dollars) spent auditing (holding metal rods and talking to another person) you eventually reach a state of OT clear (OT means Operating Thetan) from there, people reach many other levels of OT, all determined by how much time and money you spent on scientology. Tom Cruise is a high ranking official, care to guess why?

[spoiler]he has spent millions of dollars on audits and purchasing e-meters for personal use.[/spoiler]

QUOTE(Darkhawk @ Jun 2 2008, 07:57 PM) [snapback]211528[/snapback]
i read far enough into the article to know that the guy who started it worked really hard in the 50's, 'preached' it through the 60's when he officially said it was a religion because of the standers it had. there have been arguments for awhile, but i don't think its been a big issue till the past 5-10 years or so. Ever since people talked about Tom cruise being apart of it or whatever, i've heard a lot of crap about it. my *very* religious christen grandparents thinks its so wrong and stuff, how its a huge cult, ect. ect. gogo old people hatin.


Actually I think a lot of the controversy started when one of their members (who was just in a car accident) was checked out of the hospital far too early, taken to one of their hospitals (a hotel) and left to die. She was finally returned to the coroner's office of the first hospital DOA and the corpse was covered with cockroach bites.

Not to mention a few other members who died in various ways, including boiled to death and another stabbed to death by her son.

QUOTE(Grym @ Jun 2 2008, 07:59 PM) [snapback]211531[/snapback]
Made by a Sci-fi writer. Kid you not.


He was many things, including a pedophile. He bought an enormous cruise ship (which he integrated into the religion, claimed they were studying clams (which is what they claim we evolved from)) and filled it with 14-16 year old girls, who's uniforms were even more revealing than the most provocative cheerleader outfits.

For more information on Scientology, I suggest reading http://www.xenu.net/

There many former members of scientology recount their stories from inside the org.

EDIT:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ3AOqtLTfY

It's about their fair game policy.

The person speaking at the very beginning is L Ron Hubbard (The founder).

They fabricate anything they want about anyone who criticizes them, then act as though it were real. I believe scientologists should be executed in a manner best befitting virgins, throw them into a volcano.
Wise Goblin
So this shit is expensive to?! How and why do people buy into this obvious scam!?
Taz
QUOTE(Wise Goblin @ Jun 2 2008, 08:19 PM) [snapback]211557[/snapback]
So this shit is expensive to?! How and why do people buy into this obvious scam!?


Because they're stupid. They refuse to question it. They're dense beyond all belief. They believe prozac makes you vicious. Anyone who speaks out against them is instantly a criminal of some sort, while it is in fact their founder who was scum.

They are against all pharmaceuticals and psychology. All problems in the human body are a result of an imbalance of vitamins or some such bologna.
Darkhawk
who knows, why do people believe anything, o.O cults r kewl.
reader
QUOTE(Wise Goblin @ Jun 2 2008, 06:19 PM) [snapback]211557[/snapback]
So this shit is expensive to?! How and why do people buy into this obvious scam!?



from what i understand, the people who are in it have to bring other people into it. they have to go through some kind of confession in order to progress in the ranks. while confessing they bring up other people, and these other people are blackmailed somewhat into joining them.

an example i have in my head is something like this:

person joins the cult, they confess that they had an affair with a person. that person is brought in, and "shown" how it would be beneficial for them to go through the program to "cure" them and to not cause further problems with their current life.

i could be completely wrong. im just trying to remember the stuff my friend told me. he likes to study the weird cults out there
Wise Goblin
But...its expensive! (Im cheap as hell), What is the reward for this? If you hold these metal bars long enough do you go to...alien heaven?
Taz
QUOTE(Wise Goblin @ Jun 2 2008, 08:35 PM) [snapback]211570[/snapback]
But...its expensive! (Im cheap as hell), What is the reward for this? If you hold these metal bars long enough do you go to...alien heaven?


Nope, you shed the excess thetans from your human host (yep, we're not in control, an alien is driving us, or rather we're the aliens.) leaving just the one in the body. Once that is done, the subject obtains god-like powers (none of which has ever been confirmed) and has a mastery over linguistic skills (which never goes past swearing). From there, the subject signs a billion year contract with the church of scientology, (they believe in reincarnation, no heaven for you! total heaven nazi's they are) where once your thetan finds it's way back into another human host, you begin serving the church of scientology until you contract is up. After that, no one knows. I don't think anyone has completed a contract yet.

The two metal rods are hooked up to a meter which wobbles, and where along the dial it wobbles is your current level of OT.

EDIT: I think one of the god-like powers given is the ability to jump on a couch on live TV and look like a total moron, all the while confessing love for a woman while still being secretly in the closet, dreaming of John Travolta.
Grym
If I ever discover time travel, I'm going to go back in time and tell my past self that the Scientologists were correct. Then I'm going to kick myself as soon as I get back.

QUOTE(Taz @ Jun 2 2008, 09:15 PM) [snapback]211552[/snapback]
Couldn't be further from the truth. It is the center of the entire reI believe scientologists should be executed in a manner best befitting virgins, throw them into a volcano.

Please don't throw me into any lava soon, KTHXBAI

QUOTE(Taz @ Jun 2 2008, 09:24 PM) [snapback]211559[/snapback]
Anyone who speaks out against them is instantly a criminal of some sort, while it is in fact their founder who was scum.

My god. That man is a genius.

I can only hope to someday create a religion as awsome as this one.
Darkhawk
if you make a religion, it should say, "we all need to be like our savior verbose." the closer you get to achieving said goal, the more cookies you get. also, if you help him complete his life goals, you get brownies. ooooOoOoOOOOOoOooOoOoo.
The Lone David
My religion is completely based on gummi bears. We must strive to be like the gummi bears, who give their lives for our tasty enjoyment.
Grym
QUOTE(The Lone David @ Jun 2 2008, 10:03 PM) [snapback]211612[/snapback]
My religion is completely based on gummi bears. We must strive to be like the gummi bears, who give their lives for our tasty enjoyment.

And occasionally defending our shores against cheese.
Taz
QUOTE(The Lone David @ Jun 2 2008, 09:03 PM) [snapback]211612[/snapback]
My religion is completely based on gummi bears. We must strive to be like the gummi bears, who give their lives for our tasty enjoyment.

Yet, in your picture, it appears that you are kicking a gummi turtle...
The Lone David
It's actually a heart.
Taz
QUOTE(The Lone David @ Jun 2 2008, 09:10 PM) [snapback]211626[/snapback]
It's actually a heart.

A gummi heart?
Wise Goblin
So you become like....god? No heaven...and when you die your a slave to the Scientolosts......and then you die and have to do it again? WHAT THE F@#$!!!
Taz
QUOTE(Wise Goblin @ Jun 2 2008, 09:12 PM) [snapback]211629[/snapback]
So you become like....god? No heaven...and when you die your a slave to the Scientolosts......and then you die and have to do it again? WHAT THE F@#$!!!


Yep, you've pretty much got the gist of it now.
The Lone David
QUOTE(Taz @ Jun 2 2008, 09:11 PM) [snapback]211627[/snapback]
A gummi heart?

No, Frozen_Sun's heart.
Kayhynn
To be honest, if your interested in it, I'd advise doing some research.

While its "questionable" the crap they believe in, almost any religion is questionable. Hell the catholic church believes you should give them 10% of your income etc.....

Seriously folks, let's not throw weighty opinions in on a religious topic.

WG, you're a smart lad, look up L. Ron Hubbard, he's the basis behind all this.

Discussion is closed. Let's not insult religions shall we?
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