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JacobChulainn
Details how even truthful cooperation with police can be used to incriminate you, and gives a compelling arguement against any type of cooperation despite how you may feel about it making you look guilty("Well I have nothing to hide.", etc).

Part 1

Part 2

Part 3

Part 4

Part 5

Silence is golden.
Vegos
It's a joke, but I think it's on spot here.

FBI, CIA and LAPD are tasked to find a rabbit in the woods but what they don't know is, there is no rabbit in the forest.

FBI charges in with special forces and snipers, burns the forest to smoke the critter out and doesn't find him in the end anyway, thus presuming the rabbit KIA.

CIA wires the forest and monitors it 24/7 with satellite surveilance for 2 weeks, in the end concluding that IF the rabbit is in fact in the forest, it's hiding and therefore harmless - as the moment he comes out of hiding, they'll nab him, "we assure you".

LAPD charges in, 2 hours later two officers are seen dragging a bear out of the woods. The bear is screaming "OKAY! OKAY! I admit it I'm a rabbit! I'm a rabbit!"
Jaezelle
Joke or not, it's incredibly "on spot".
viper2003923
that was the first time i heard vegos' joke, i thought it was kinda funny
GothicMoocow
I'm tryin to watch the video, or atleast listen to it.. (U never kno)
I was thinkin about becoming a lawyer.. I hear its not worth it though..

Anywho, get joke, ok spot" like they say
Latrans
I watched Part 1 and Part 2. By the time I got to Part 3, 'Video is no longer available'. This does not bode well. I hope somebody saved it. ohmy.gif
JacobChulainn
QUOTE(Latrans @ May 31 2008, 08:03 PM) [snapback]210057[/snapback]
I watched Part 1 and Part 2. By the time I got to Part 3, 'Video is no longer available'. This does not bode well. I hope somebody saved it. ohmy.gif


Pretty odd, part 3 is the only one that has been removed. It just says don't talk to the police, that's the basic point of the video. All you're missing with part 3 is more reasons why you plead the fifth and then stop talking despite their threats, pressuring, etc.
Verbose
I got lessons on how to avoid talking to the police when I was twelve.

I've got a nice, law abiding family.
Josef bugman
... Verb I am suprised you can still post after the hugeness of that lie smile.gif.
Verbose
I'll have you know that I only have one blood relative who has been convicted of anything in the last, oh, fifteen years.

No convictions means innocent and law abiding.
Legendaryratboy
Of course, it obviously could never bee a sign of a family that bribes it's ways out of tight spots, or leads double lifes, or any of the 50 other options out there.
Verbose
It has never been proven that anybody in my family would ever bribe a public official, and I'll thank you not to make such baseless allegations.
JacobChulainn
Nothing is illegal, unless you get caught.
Metalcommand
wrong. When you trespass a certain law or rule, the action that trespassed the law or rule is illegal, and any direct consequences created from that action are your responsebillity
JacobChulainn
Nope not wrong, if you can get away with a crime it may as well not be illegal because you suffered no consequences.
Stalgar
QUOTE(Metalcommand @ Jun 2 2008, 05:57 AM) [snapback]211097[/snapback]
wrong. When you trespass a certain law or rule, the action that trespassed the law or rule is illegal, and any direct consequences created from that action are your responsebillity

"Innocent until proven guilty"
Unless you don't live in the USA.
Grym
QUOTE(JacobChulainn @ Jun 2 2008, 06:45 AM) [snapback]211104[/snapback]
Nope not wrong, if you can get away with a crime it may as well not be illegal because you suffered no consequences.

If you can get away with a crime then it's the police's fault for not being good enough.

QUOTE(Verbose @ Jun 2 2008, 05:01 AM) [snapback]211084[/snapback]
It has never been proven that anybody in my family would ever bribe a public official, and I'll thank you not to make such baseless allegations.

Verbose, you are either the strangest person I have ever met or the best role-player I have ever known.
Stalgar
QUOTE(Grym @ Jun 2 2008, 09:00 PM) [snapback]211534[/snapback]
If you can get away with a crime then it's the police's fault for not being good enough.
Verbose, you are either the strangest person I have ever met or the best role-player I have ever known.

Or you're Jack the Ripper?
Also, I think Verb is just a messed up person.
Taz
QUOTE(Grym @ Jun 2 2008, 08:00 PM) [snapback]211534[/snapback]
Verbose, you are either the strangest person I have ever met or the best role-player I have ever known.

Can't he be both?
Verbose
QUOTE(Grym @ Jun 3 2008, 11:00 AM) [snapback]211534[/snapback]
Verbose, you are either the strangest person I have ever met or the best role-player I have ever known.

The two are not mutually exclusive you know.
JacobChulainn
In America it's "Guilty until proven innocent.", the cop in the video says as much. Part 3 is back up, btw.
Verbose
It's always guilty until proven innocent everywhere.

It's absurd to operate as though it's otherwise. You have no right to detain and question a person who is innocent. You do it because you think they might be guilty and probably are.
viper2003923
like gabriel igleasias says

" if you can get a cop to laugh, you got a chance"
JacobChulainn
QUOTE(viper2003923 @ Jun 3 2008, 12:59 AM) [snapback]211823[/snapback]
like gabriel igleasias says

" if you can get a cop to laugh, you got a chance"


While funny, it isn't true. Cops still lied on the stand when I went to court.

When I asked for the video out of the cruiser to be shown to back up my story of why my tire blew out(cop said I hit a curb because I was drunk, when it was a pothole I hit before he pulled me over and I only blew a .07), and I pretty much got laughed at by the judge when I asked for the video, and the results of the breathalizer be shown. " I'm not going to waste this courts time .... guilty. "

These are the same cops who botched a murder investigation, they found a missing woman's truck and got it all the way back to my county from where it had been dumped before they found her corpse in the toolbox. They also used an alcoholic cadaver dog to search her husband's dairy farm for the body(their prime suspect, just because they were told the couple argued). The dog was an alcoholic, not the owner.
Verbose
It's a rule my dad refers to as 80-20.

80% of all crimes of all types pretty much go uncaught. That's not to say that only 20% of crimes end in conviction, though.
Grym
QUOTE(Verbose @ Jun 2 2008, 10:34 PM) [snapback]211657[/snapback]
The two are not mutually exclusive you know.

Ssssssh. Then just make it an and and then repeat the second half.

QUOTE(viper2003923 @ Jun 3 2008, 12:59 AM) [snapback]211823[/snapback]
like gabriel igleasias says

" if you can get a cop to laugh, you got a chance"

A young woman was pulled over for speeding. As the motorcycle officer walked to her car window, flipping open his ticket book, he asked her if she knew why he pulled her over.

She said, "I bet you are going to sell me a ticket to the Highway Patrolmen's Ball."

He replied, "Highway patrolmen don't have balls." There was a moment of silence while she smiled, and he realized what he'd just said. He then closed his book, got back on his motorcycle and left.
Verbose
Maybe it's necessary because of the size of your country but Americans seem to be pretty intensely into separating their law enforcement agencies.

We pretty much have regular police and federal police.
Legendaryratboy
In Mexico the division of police forces is designed to prevent the corruption of one to affect the others... unfortunately they all have large amounts of corruption, although it has been on the decline.
Legendaryratboy
In Mexico the division of police forces is designed to prevent the corruption of one to affect the others... unfortunately they all have large amounts of corruption, although it has been on the decline.

(sorry for double post. Stupid isp...)
Verbose
I think we just decided that it'd be easier to deal with the corruption if we have fewer departments.

Just the other day a cop got arrested for selling Ice (concentrated meth-amphetamines). He wasn't selling it but he was in charge of importing it.

I don't think my family would know him since he lived in another state but then I also never realised why an uncle owns so many properties in the Northern Territory before there was word they were going to be raided. I don't pay that much attention, really.
Stalgar
QUOTE(Verbose @ Jun 3 2008, 05:57 PM) [snapback]212285[/snapback]
I think we just decided that it'd be easier to deal with the corruption if we have fewer departments.

Just the other day a cop got arrested for selling Ice (concentrated meth-amphetamines). He wasn't selling it but he was in charge of importing it.

I don't think my family would know him since he lived in another state but then I also never realised why an uncle owns so many properties in the Northern Territory before there was word they were going to be raided. I don't pay that much attention, really.

You live in Canada?
Legendaryratboy
Verb's from Australia.
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