ello ello.. new to lfgcomic, absolutely fell in love with it in the first few panels.
so much so that on my private world of warcraft server i made each character and tried to get their lilkeness as much as possible.

richard however was the most difficult for me.
I was wondering if anyone would be able to notify me as to what it is that richard is wearing, armor-wise in the world of warcraft ?

i know his helm looks an awful lot like the Scout's Hood

was wondering if anyone had any more ideas as i have been scouring the wowmodelviewer, mywarcraftstudio etc.

also, here are what i have for Krunch, and what i have so far for richard..though i am dissatisfied with my work on Richard's overall look.

Not. WoW.

But I somehow like the idea of animating the chars nontheless...might be interesting RP-wise.

You won't find WoW armor in LFG, though, and vice versa, as LFG and WoW are different things.

yes i know they are not one and the same but i do feel that they aare related.

i just figured richard's, along with other characters, armors were based off of a set or item in-game.

I think 'the characters armor is based off of what Lar thinks looks cool' would be closer to the truth.

point. haha

*shrugs*

oh well

try mooncloth robes ^^ come on my server and i might show u what i mean oh and mind telling me what u used there?

*Breathes in*

I'm not even going to start. Don't say anything at all if it is not nice, so...


I Guess your WoW stuff looks half-decent.

i think i actually thought that was richard for like 2 seconds...then i was like..nope the shoulders,bones and,skin are too unlike

krunch however looks just fine IMO...

well unfortunately the stupid wow undead always have their bones showing, ruins their quality i say.

i am pretty proud with krunch.

and thanks mantalord, i have noticed you're a fairly active in lfg forum so that somewhat compliment will be taken in high regard. i know that it will not look much like the true characters, but i figured i'd take two of my newfound addictions and try to meld them into one lol.

i'm satisfied witht he outcome, now i don't have to wait until thursday or monday for a new richard, i can just log in and enjoy my own craziness

Chinese government forbid Blizzard to release World of Warcraft in China due to the undead's showing skeleton.

To fix that, Blizzard reskined the undead to make them not show the bones. There's a patch for WoW that makes the undead for the other versions of the game (enUS, enGB, deDE, frFR, esES, etc) compliant with the China version, for those that didn't like the bone-showing models; You could use the patch to make the undead body more richard-like.

I'm curious, also, about what armor equipment have you used this far?, and if it's possible to see your work in the other LFG cast members?

i am not entirely sur ehow to go about the other lfg cast members but i can try at least. some i will not be able to do because the facea nd hair options are limited, as well as clothing and age.

since everyone in world of warcraft only has a number of hairstyles and everyone seems to be the same age

EDIT: i looked into that patch and i very much like it. now i just need to find the file lol0

also i can construct a list of the weapons and armor i use for the characters.

this seems to be going ok, mostly positive feedback though i can sort of guess people aren't happy with my associating our beloved richard with WoW lol

Nobody here really likes associating anything LFG with WoW. Richard, however, probably wouldn't care less so long as people were paying attention to him.

haha, so i've noticed.
well than i shall refrain from such remarks later on.

You don't need to refrain from anything you don't want to. A lot of LFG is taken from Warcraft, whether forum members wanna admit it or not. (The cowl, even, is so close that I wonder if it's directly taken).

Anyway, for what it's worth, I think your characters look really good.

haha thanks, brainstorming on what i should do for benny because she closely resembles both orc and troll features. though the trolls are a little lanky they more closely resemble her i suppose.

cale will be easy i think... then i plan on creating some of the additional cast members

i think they look really awesome and i cant wait to see the other characters

I fail to see why so many people are so defensive about the similarities between it and warcraft. The creators obviously aren't.


Lookie Lookie


That is, of course, assuming they knew about the cover of this book.

Haha Thank you
i can't work on them right now since I don't have WoW on this computer (gone all weekend)
but i have some things saved in mind. though Gid has proved to be very challenging because I cannot find her hairstyle, and the troll face does not look very correct. been browsing other model types hoping maybe i can find something.. the male forest trolls look good but i cannot find a female model for them, if there is even one that exists.

here's sooba, seeing as that is easy enough.



Hctib Elttil - Eeeeeeeeeeeeeee

nerdrage, that is all, nerdrage

just ignore it, makes for less stress

those are pretty damn cool!

i really like hctib

Haha, while reading through all the pages for the fourth time (was collexting richard quotes )
i notied all the hinting at WoW and have concluded that it is loony to say they are not somewhat related.I'll use these comics as evidence.

The first Minion a Warlock recieves is an Imp, whose looks very closely resemble Hctib only your Imp is a darkish green.

Here we have two jokes, the DING! used to represent a level, though used in other MMOs world of warcraft makes most sense. also the soul draining is an ability of the warlocks in world of warcraft.

This is un-ignorable, as this is the basic gyst of how the WoW loading screens look, even has the Tip:

Some WoW loading screens for cross-examination lol
Number 1.
Number 2.
Tips

also, I've noticed that it is loosely based off of Dungeons and Dragons as far as the jokes go (if you deny this, you need to stop putting so many points in your delusion skill)

On a lighter note, I found our little friend.

Thank you. Nothing bothers me more about this community than the shunning of the WoW roots of this comic. Those denying them need to give this post a good read through.

Here's more:

I've been reading LFG since page 2 or 3. Know where I got the link? The World of Warcraft front page. They linked to it because it is a comic derivative of WoW, and it was just starting up. To this day, LFG remains linked under the community section of WorldofWarcraft.com. Also, WoW Insider continues to link the latest update of LFG in their sunday roundups of WoW related webcomics. While these two websites are not official to BFE, they do give a pretty good look at how strong the ties are.

Moreover, Cale is obviously based upon the Blood Elf. The first two pages discuss his races turn to evil and his struggle to be good, Cale is a archer type character with a big cat for a pet, the stereotype WoW hunter's chosen pet. Richard is an undead warlock, another popular WoW stereotype. While yes, all these things are common through many fantasy worlds, one similarity is coincidence. Similarities and references numbering in the teens or more are not. The comic was released at the same time Burning Crusade was coming/recently released (I don't recall which exactly, but it was that time frame) and the community was in an uproar about how Blood Elves were going to be horde and it didn't fit, the comic clearly reflects that.

While it's possible a fan told Blizz about this comic, it hadn't even reached 10 pages yet, so it's much more likely that the creators themselves contacted them to let them know and get a mention on their site.

There is a wallpaper of a Loading Screen derivitive of WoW's screens, and the same motif has been used in the comic itself. Krunch can be replicated nearly fully accurate in game, because he is based off the Tauren.

LFG may not be constrained to the world of Azeroth's rules, in fact it doesn't even take place there. It doesn't mean Richard can't drain the soul of a monk because Monks don't exist in WoW. It doesn't mean Benny has to be a Orc or a Troll, and can't be a hybrid or another race all together. Still, it is obvious that LFG drew heavily for WoW specifically for inspiration.

So yes, LFG is different than WoW. It is it's own world. It has grown much further beyond it's WoW inspired roots. But the fact is, it has WoW in it's gene pool. The creators don't shun this idea, as links continue to pop up, so stop being so stuck up and just accept it.

/end rant

The biggest issue with WoW in LFG is not denying any and all traces of it, its the opposite. It's the people who know only WoW, and state with all matter-of-factness that LFG, is indeed, a WoW comic and anybody who says otherwise is stupid.

This happens alot, hence the general dislike and initial annoyance of someone coming up and making a thread about the similarities. This thread itself happens to be a breath of fresh air compared to the other ones.

I smell machinima! Nice character representations there. Good luck!

You got that right, indeed. Both paragraphs are entirely true.

Oh and Warlord, keep up the good work, will you?

I appreciate all the positive feedback on this. I design custom donation armors for A private World of Warcraft server and I take great pride in trying my best to design an armor or style that everyone can be happy with.

I'll resume my work tomorrow as well as make some attempts at even Recreating some of the comic strips.
this should prove difficult but It shouldn't be TOO difficult.

Star gazer you are very correct, i use three programs when making these characters as I am very strict about how things look, I'll be redesigning richard now that i have upgraded some programs of mine and hopefully i can get things in working order.

also i just remembered the gear displays i used for Krunch's outfit.

Wrists: Flamebane Bracers
Weapon: Greater Maul
Legs: Felsteel Leggings

will thottbot it and check my accuracy.

EDIT: added a qoute from Vegos and thottbot item links.

also i have noticed that I was off on his Hammer, will be looking into that as well.

Iv been sayin the same thing bout WoW & LFG.

wish i could help, keep up the good work, link the final results so some of us can make a Richard and friends too

okay, actually, the Sooba/Cale relationship is a parody on Drizzt Do'Urden, a Drow who turns from the path of the rest of his race (like Cale did to the Blood Elves) and his companion is a panther from the Astral Planes. That's why Sooba's there... and Cale is not actually an archer hunter, he's a ranger, and that's what I thought when I first saw him fight. He cares too much for nature and all that to be a simple hunter.


Or it could all be a big mishmosh of the popular fantasy storyline/buildages, as is seen with Richard. He's clearly more than just a warlock, the Fwoom is a pyro pom pyro, a mage skill, though he is undead and can drain life and souls. He's more close to a sorcerer from D&D, with warlock add-ons. He's also horribly chaotically evil, doing things just because they amuse him/keep him alive.


I hope I haven't offended anyone with my post.

To quote Rip:

"The biggest issue with WoW in LFG is not denying any and all traces of it, its the opposite. It's the people who know only WoW, and state with all matter-of-factness that LFG, is indeed, a WoW comic and anybody who says otherwise is stupid."

Indeed, we despise people who ONLY know WoW when it comes to fantasy, and then refuse to concede their flawed "If it's fantasy, it must be WoW" logic even after faced with evidence that says otherwise.

Nobody denies the fact that some things have been taken from WoW. But in no way is the comic "primarily based" on it, neither are the characters.

Actually, Sohmer himself told us that he had never even heard of Drizzt until after he created Cale. But you're absolutely right on the other counts.

Wow. Derailment. Haven't seen this in a while. Please get back on topic before I'm forced to close this. Kthxbye.

G!

I also agree, even I am actually new here in these forums.

Thank you for linking that image of Krunch. It looks nice, will give me a good base for the little project I started. As I mentioned in the dick roll'd thread I am trying one of my very first machinima's using WoW for the reasons that were stated in this thread.

Here is my work in progress, and a view at the setup I choose for Richard.

http://www.veoh.com/videos/v13080823YHqtepfN

I spent quite awhile staring at the comic..and staring at wowmodelviewer until I got what I felt was reasonable. I hope later in the project to have some of the other character do a 'walk on'. Starting digging through the file to find something for Benny/Gid but that one might be especially hard.

I've thought about trying to recreated the characters of LFG in The Sims 2, but I lack the skill with rendering 3d models to do so.
(Hell I don't even have the rendering program anymore, the trial period ran out and I didn't have the $30 to buy a liscence at the time. However if anyone else has a copy of "Milkshape" and wants to attempt this, please post your results, maybe with a link to a download so all of us Sims 2 players can reek havoc on our neighborhoods.)

Awesome! The first image of wow!Richard looks great. Someday when I'm bored I should see what i can make like them in Smackdown vs Raw. I love making my original characters in that game, mebbe I can make the LFG team!

They look pretty similiar. Not 100%, but not bad. Must be fun to rp with

wait a sec............
that item is leather
warlocks cant wear leather ingame

So what? The only relation WG's work has with WoW is the fact that he's using the WoW graphic engine to recreate the LFG characters. Who cares about game mechanics?

In the LFG comic, Richard actually put on a chainmail chest piece.

Would be fun if the WOW game mechanics would actually represent the laws of reality on Azeroth. Probably casters and hunters would be magnetically charges with the same polarity as all heavy armor so they automatically bounce off any heavy armor they try to put on.

Hmmm, now I might open a "Laws of physics and reality in video games" thread in General. We may get a nice collection of that.

I don't see why there's any doubt that LFG is based of World of Warcraft. LFG is a term in game after all. And one of the comics you posted makes reference to questing. Sure lore wise it's completely different, but everything else is completely WoW based. The storyline is the only thing that's not, which makes it such an interesting and amusing read.

On a lighter note, I quite like your characters. The robe is really the only thing I really think needs work for Richard's outfit. I suppose the shoulders could use a little work as well, but the ones you have aren't far off. Very nice job. d-(^.^)

Krunch looks wonderful though! The Felsteel set pieces are a perfect fit. I'm curious what the mace is though. The first thing that popped into my mind was The Stoppable Force. >.>

I wouldn't mind trying this myself, but I don't know how to unless I had a 70 of each race so I could try on all the armor. ^^;

Either way, very nice job, I'm looking forward to seeing the rest of the cast. ^w^

Please, I edited this post like 5 times and still I can't find words to express my bafflement and annoyment. And I don't want to anger the powers that be with my righteous fury.

*goes play Moorhuhn*

Right. The stories and worlds are (nearly) totally different. Yeah, true, there is a "Tauren-looking-species" and Benny kind of reminds a troll/Orc-breed. But that has nothing to say at all. Similarities between fantasystories/games (etc.) aren't anything unnatural.
But you can't say that WoW and LFG are the same, except for the lore.

We really should make a sticky.

Can't make a sticky if we keep closing down topics due to flamming and Trolling.

So, back on topic with you guys and gals! If you want debates about WoW and LFG, use the search tool. Lots to read on the subject. You can also search for "What is Benny" lots there too.

G!

I will agree here, while I believe it's based off WoW, I know that it's not entirely based from it, just enough to make it a WoW comic. There are plenty of things that aren't from game in this comic, again, that make it more interesting to read.

Many people know of the WoW lore, so having a comic based completely from game, lore and all, would get old very fast. Having references to, but it's own storyline, are what make it unique and interesting. ^w^

head: Scout's Hood
Shoulder: Abyssal Cloth Amice
Chest: Bloodfang Chestpiece
Belt: Abjurer's Sash
Legs: Stormreaver Shadow-kilt
Boots: Abyssal Cloth Slippers
Bracers: Abyssal Cloth Wristbands
Gloves: Blood Guard's Leather Grips

Though i need to find better pants
but what sucks is that 2 of them is rogue class only, so if your a gm on a priv server, you can just add in his spells

*insert a reiteration of one of Vegos' bouts of disdain and frustration here*

But a propos, his cowl, one really can't help thinking about whether he wears it to conceal something physical or is he just making himself look all mysterious like.

head: Scout's Hood
Shoulder: Abyssal Cloth Amice
Chest: Bloodfang Chestpiece
Belt: Abjurer's Sash
Legs: Stormreaver Shadow-kilt
Boots: Abyssal Cloth Slippers
Bracers: Abyssal Cloth Wristbands
Gloves: Blood Guard's Leather Grips
is wrong its not like richard armor. Warlord Gorgut can you tell me what armors are that? plsplspls (( i mean on that picture what armor is that )) PLEASE

Like Almost eveRyone (space) Here, i Agree that'S (space) Some TotAlly fanTastic gEar. Did (space) THAT (space) WOnderful Work (space) I see coNSume long PerIods of time? Richard is Especially De(space)LightFul. Great job!

There, now I get my two cents and the moderators are happy

Don't resurrect dead topics. Especially ones that have been dead a full year. They smell.