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RATM
Here's the deal.

Future shop has WoW on for 20 bucks.
I have up to 50 dollars in gift certificates because apparently i spent 6 grand on my credit card in two years (yeah that's a lot of books and groceries) and my points accumulated enough.

So now I'm looking for a few games. I haven't had a computer game in awhile and I don't really like buying said games. I also hate paying per month but everyones raving about WoW. I'm a closet DnDer. I'm afraid that this game will consume my soul but I haven`t played a warcraft game in so long and when I was 13, it was the shiznits. So yeah, the game would essentially be free but I'm wondering if I should bother.

I see that many people are big on WoW (hence looking for group, eh?) and well I'm wondering if I should give it a whirl or not but, like i said, I remain hesitant.

Let the corrupting begin?
FreePass
sure thing...

what would be of the HUMANITY without the corruption of the videogames?...

and a little soul isnt really a big deal... its just your way to eternal rest and stuff like that... and WHO WANTS TO REST WHEN YOU CAN PLAY WORLD OF WARCRAFT?! tongue.gif

greetings

PS: im pretty drunk and beaten up... a night of tequila and DDR made that reply xD
Etoh the Greato
Well... Here's the dillyo. The game is basically free, and the first month is free. Give it a shot, says I!
Last Click
The game is not free. The money that he's going to be spending on the game had to come from somewhere, in this case - 2 years and 6k. And granted while he didn't technically put in work hours to get it, any money that he spends on WoW is money he could be spending on something else.

So I think that he's going to take a little more convincing than "the game is free, give it a try." I think that he's going to need something a bit more substantial.

Of course, the ulterior motive in this post is that I'm in a similar situation. Pre-orded Vanguard for $10 bucks to join the Open Beta and try it out, didn't like it, and now I want my $10 back. So I figure that I'll just by the game then exchange it a couple days later (don't want to look too suspicious) for a different game. And WoW is one I'm considering though I'd want confirmation that it's worth my time and money first. So please, why do you play WoW instead of something else like EQ2 or FFXI?
RATM
In all honesty, it's free. The purchases made to get these points were school books, school supplies, groceries, you know, stuff i had to buy anything but was intelligent enough to charge my Visa instead of my bank card. So yeah, basically free money for not paying any interest anyways tongue.gif

But yeah I wanna know what's so AWESOME that I need to fail four classes for.

Noting that I am an Final Fantasy maniac.
Sooba
the main attraction for me is mainly getting to pound on enemies (and other players) with large large groups (like 40 people or so) you get the social of a chat room combined with the destruction of an rpg. what else is holding you back? :-p
Last Click
I could also get that with any other rpg. I'm curious as to what makes WoW so much better than the alternatives.
Sooba
QUOTE (Last Click @ Jan 28 2007, 07:02 AM) *
I could also get that with any other rpg. I'm curious as to what makes WoW so much better than the alternatives.

plain and simple. you can play as a walking upright talking cow.
Gidd
So I played Ultima Online, EverQuest, Lineage, EverQuest, World of Warcraft, EverQuest, World of Warcraft (In that order) so allow me to give you a quick breakdown of WoW from someone who has said "This is the best game ever" and a year later was saying "F Wow in its F'n face!"


Wow is easy.
Granted there are many quests and events that are not simple walkthroughs and yes during the upper end of the content you do have to work for the rewards, but on a large scale MMO Wow is one of the simplest ones to experience.

Wow is UI friendly.
There are several custom interfaces you can download, configure, install, etc. to really personalize your gaming experience. They opened the doors to customer UI (User Interface). www.curse-gaming.com has a lot of them, personally I like a super clean UI so I don't use a "pre-pack" but a lot of people do.
See: Cosmos, Bongo's, etc.

Wow is user-friendly.
Wow is a community effort when it comes to knowledge.
There are several websites that are around to help you with items, quests, etc.
http://www.wowhead.com
http://www.wowwiki.com
http://www.thottbot.com

Wow is pretty.
The design of the game was less realistic and more cartoonish.
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p258/gidd/the_new_av.jpg
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p258/gi...ing_friends.jpg
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p258/gi...stoms_sucks.jpg
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p258/gi...ion/my_home.jpg

Wow is not long-term.
So many people out there put so much though and study into "finding the right game". While this is all well and good and will enhance your experience maybe, the ease of wow is that you can turn it on as a novice, and within a few hours, etc. master the controls and be on your way.
MaDSaM
Being new and all to these Forums I just wanted to peek in and give maybe an alternative.

http://www.ryzom.com

To make it short: Something else. wink.gif

If you want to have a look at it: http://www.ryzom-movies.de
Also, if you do a search on Youtube for Ryzom, it turns up some nice Videos. (not that good quality though).

If you want to know more, just say so smile.gif

CU
SaM
Dreagon
You could try it for free for 10 days... that what i did.

Here you can try...
RATM
QUOTE (Dreagon @ Jan 28 2007, 02:19 PM) *
You could try it for free for 10 days... that what i did.

Here you can try...

Oo Danke schön, I never thought of this.
Dreagon
You do realize that i'm Dutch and not German... biggrin.gif

Anyway glad i could help.
RATM
QUOTE (Dreagon @ Jan 28 2007, 04:52 PM) *
You do realize that i'm Dutch and not German... biggrin.gif

Anyway glad i could help.

I'm neither, i took elementary german and my neighbour's grandparents are dutch.
I just felt like multi-linguisticating this place. Hence the following : merci beaucoup.

At any rate, anyone know how to kill 6 hours?
Dreagon
In that case: A votre service. biggrin.gif

Now about killing those hours... try a Pet spa tongue.gif You could try something online like runescape or something like that.
Rykone
Ok RATM, I'm gonna give ya the best rundown I can while still addressing Last Clicks question on why is it better then different MMORPGs. It really is all a matter of what you're looking for.

WoW - User Friendly, great for killing some time because you only really need to devote time IF you want to run all the end game content and get all the cool stuff. With the expansion out they gave the ability to have your own cool stuff without running the end game content(it's just not as fulfilling). There is a great database as Gidd said, so it makes it a bit easier. WoW, as much as I would love to defend it is "MMOs for Dummies" because of how simple it is compared to some other games. If you're looking for casual gaming, WoWs your place to be. And yes, it's pretty in it's cartoony ways. Free trial is available to test before buying, I'd highly suggest trying it first.

EQ2 - I enjoyed EQ2 but ended up back at WoW because I missed the actual feel of it, EQ was just missing something. The crafting system is interactive meaning you actually have to work, instead of hitting the "Create All" button instead, walking away and making a sandwich to come back to 10 greatswords in your bags. Great community, the guildbank feature is exceptionally nice since WoW still hasn't implemented their's....slowpokes. Has a more realistic feel to it and has a gradual increase in the need for parties. Yet again, a free trial is available with no time limit, just can't leave the starting area.

FFXI - The game of doom. If you're looking to suck up a LOT of time, and find a game that will keep you occupied for a very very very long time then I'd suggest this fine piece. FFXI has a true fantasy look to it and is rather enjoyable to play, however there is no gradual increase in difficulty nor is there even the miracle chance of soloing. It takes a while to trully accomplish anything in the game, however it will fill you with a sense of pride that I didn't get in any other game, because of how hard you have to work. Parties are a requirement around lvl 15(that's if you feel like killing weak enemies for a chance) and I mean FULL parties. This puts a bit of a problem with sitting around on your duff in the desert waiting for a group. For the rather hardcore gamer I'd say, but it's possible you wouldn't have the desire to buy any game for a long time cause of all the content. Unlike other MMOs, this one actually has a story. Oh....and if you hate bunnies, this is your game >.<

I'll let someone else describe Guild Wars for you, but it's well worth it with no monthly charges. Of all of the MMOs though the three listed are the tops, and if I actually had more time on my hands I'd be playing FFXI other then WoW because I really did enjoy it, just got annoyed with not finding parties.
kenorar
"My name is kenorar in game", "Hi kenorar", " I have been playing WoW for a while now and this is what I have to say about it,
WoW - To me it is not a game but a way of life I find WoW fun and a place where I can play with my friends online..... now that I am done trying to sound smart I am addicted to WoW and can't get enough. Though I am an mmo freak I play WoW a lot I got WoW collector's edition signed by the creators and I just got Burning Crusade Collector's edition. So try it out but don't get to sucked in like I am or when you slit your wrist it will say WoW.
Felixaar
Depends if you're into to superhumans pounding green things or not, but I'd play a good RTS like Dawn of War before getting WoW.
Dismeeir
well if you want to play WoW, if you get into it, it can end up being very expensive. however should you get far into it, it can become an incredibly fun game, raiding dungeons, fighting the opposing faction in raging battles, it all becomes really interesting. that said, the middle game isnt too much fun, unless you have friends leveling with you or people running you through things. and i'm sure plenty of people from the forums would be happy to help, if you do join up, just ask, and if you dont join up, you'll be back. they always come back...

biggrin.gif
kenorar
I would suggest something like guildwars 50 dollars and you get to play as long as you want for free laugh.gif
templar
I've been playing WoW for a long time now, and what I can say about the game is the following: it came after all the other games! Blizzard took most what was wrong with the other games that came before it and improved on it. A LOT! That being said, the game is very vast and loads of fun, and as all games, is as rewarding as you make it to be; the quests are all so well written and Blizzard goes to great lenghts putting references to games, movies (a quest called Linken's sword that has multiple references to the Zelda series...) and the world is entrinched in the Warcraft lore and history, especially if you've read the Warcraft books that are very good IMHO. I have the expansion too and I have to say so far I'm not disappointed at all! A lot of new things and again all I can say is that everyone is so busy power leveling and grinding items that they don't take the time to enjoy the game for what it is. However, the game really shines when it comes to group and community play, I play with my IRL friends and of course with a lot of very good friends I've met ingame, it is really fun to play with your friends but BEWARE: if you play with friends, your conversation will slowly start to shift to WoW and everyone around you that doesn't play it will either get pissed or try it to see what the hype is all about smile.gif
That being said, as previous posts have pointed out, this has to be the simplest game out there, and one can argue that not much skill is involved in playing the game which is debatable albeit somewhat true. Previously it was all about grinding and those that had the time and effort to play more were rewarded with good gear that made them impossible to compete with. However, with the expansion this has all changed drastically, fortunately for the better.
I for one would highly recommend the game! 8 million people are playing it for 2 reasons, because it's a smashing game and because everyone else is playing it biggrin.gif The first reason holds true though and the most of the people that have something bad to say about the game are the people that like to feel special by going against the trend even if it is a nice trend. That is my 2 cents hope I was usefull to you.
Well met and a good day to you.
Etoh the Greato
guildwars is a get what you pay for game, It didn't hold me long at all.
RATM
I've played about an hour and a half so far and I think it's good. It's quite overwhelming in the beggining because there'S so much happening and the environment and the buttons et al are unfamiliar. But it has promise.


It does look purdy.
RATM
I was just wondering if the game manual that comes with the box is very detailed. Because it seems as though I know not-so-much even while reading the online guide.

Its either that or im gonna have to bug people on how to play the game tongue.gif
BlackMojo
It sounds like it might be something to do this summer. Is there a Mac version or do I have to go all parallels on it's ass?
3VIL_L337
Why do you even OWN a Mac?
What is wrong with you man!?!?!?
RATM
Macs are superior computers when it comes to designing and research, whereas a PC is just a jack of all trade and a master of nothing (not none, nothing NO-THING).

I have a PC.

I wish to destroy it.
Etoh the Greato
I have a PC. I have a mac. The thing I hate about macs are the commercials. The thing I love about macs is the utter lack of any viruses for the OS. It's sturdy, it's reliable, it gets the job done, and it looks damn good doing it.
Sooba
I use a Mac, and unfortunately a PC. My mac is my god send, it can do just about anything the PC can do (except game and 3d graphics) and its 9 years old! My computer is only 3 years old, and its nowhere near as versitile. and yes, you can play WoW on the mac (same with any other blizz game)
Dismeeir
macs cant run viruses. thats great. macs also cant run a majority of the latest games without virtual pc, greatly slowing down its cpu speed making it hard to run said latest games. that is not so great. yes, macs are superior to pc when it comes to art, editing and so on, making it an ideal work computer. not so much for the other things though.
Hippo
Which means that PC's are better.

nub. biggrin.gif
Etoh the Greato
QUOTE (Dismeeir @ Jan 31 2007, 11:49 AM) *
macs cant run viruses. thats great. macs also cant run a majority of the latest games without virtual pc, greatly slowing down its cpu speed making it hard to run said latest games. that is not so great. yes, macs are superior to pc when it comes to art, editing and so on, making it an ideal work computer. not so much for the other things though.


Whic is FanTASTIC since this is my work computer. I'm just sick of people saying "ZOMG MACS SUK!" They're good computers. The issue of the games is an issue of population penetration. There are not as many macs out there as there are PCs. Why? Cost issue and patents. IBM let lots of companies use their standard, Mac did not. Now we have hundreds of companies making hundreds of competitively priced PCs and only one company making very expensive Macs. Of course there are going to be more games for the mac. Doesn't mean it's not a good computer, though. This isnt some kind of fegging sports competition.


In either case, to the original poster: If you need to be convinced to buy a game, perhaps you shouldn't buy it. Any game you play should be something you convinced yourself to play. It should scream awesome from the bottom of your soul. That's what'll keep you playing it. If not, you're wasting free cash. happy.gif
Gidd
QUOTE (RATM @ Jan 30 2007, 06:04 PM) *
I was just wondering if the game manual that comes with the box is very detailed. Because it seems as though I know not-so-much even while reading the online guide.

Its either that or im gonna have to bug people on how to play the game tongue.gif


Ask and ye shall receive
3VIL_L337
You people actually like Macs?
Well, i guess im biased becasue the onlything i use my main computer for is Kickin' T3h ass in games.
Which macs cant run.

The computer im on now is a school issued piece o' shit dell laptop.
banana man
if u play wow for too long it might steal ur soul, but guild wars is a good alternative and almost no1 play ffXI ne more, so to sum it up if u dont wanna spend much money then u should give guild wars a try.
p.s. there is a good free online real time mmo kinda game claaed rakion u guys should try it tongue.gif
BlackMojo
What's cool about my mac is that virtual pc is obsolete. I can run boot camp, and have two OS's available to run this computer as a PC from OSX's linux roots so there's not slowdown. If I'm willing to toss up 80 bucks, I can run parallels, and run windows programs from my OSX with no slowdown. Oh my GOD, that is badass. Plus it means Macs have a leg up over the competition. At least for a while until Dell starts putting OSX on it's computers...

Microsoft... eat it.
Owl
macs cant run viruses... ha. yeah, viruses built to attack windows / PC's wont affect them. now, a virus designed to go after macs, are mean.

i'll take my PC. Windows gives me a bit of crap, but all computers do. windows lets me play about any games i want to. except the old 16 bit games. but thats why i have a old computer for that. well, i had one before someone threw it away. sad.gif

Microsoft has never given me any problems. apples... well i dont care for them. just... no. hell, my friend's PC hates apple. any time he plugs an IPOD into it, to put music on it, his conputer Freaks out and shuts down.

but yeah. WoW. well... its kinda fun. i play it when i am hopelessly bored. i wouldnt be, except my friend pays for my account. he even bought me my Expansion. so yeah. i still play. but i would just note, its absolutly got nothing on actually Role-playing. D&D, or whatever. its a video game / IRC chat combined into one. beware.

oh and get Dawn of WAr. the Warhammer 40k people got Orks down right. freaking hilarious. "Orks is Made for Fightin. and Winnin."
Etoh the Greato
QUOTE (BlackMojo @ Feb 1 2007, 03:25 AM) *
What's cool about my mac is that virtual pc is obsolete. I can run boot camp, and have two OS's available to run this computer as a PC from OSX's linux roots so there's not slowdown. If I'm willing to toss up 80 bucks, I can run parallels, and run windows programs from my OSX with no slowdown. Oh my GOD, that is badass. Plus it means Macs have a leg up over the competition. At least for a while until Dell starts putting OSX on it's computers...

Microsoft... eat it.

Not to mention that now that Macs are using pentium processors, the next version of OS is going to have the abbility to emulate windows for the sake of running programs. Take that "macs can't run games" people. tongue.gif
shiosk
Hehe. Right now, the internet and the gaming industries are all Microsoft's butt-slaves. But that is changing. The Macs will rise. Lets face it, the ONLY reason you have a PC is so you can game. Once that becomes defunct... down will come Windows, losers and all.

Not that I don't wish I could play City of Villains on my adorable MacMini (whose name is Squinch), but I'm supposed to be studying anyway.

Y'know... as soon as OS becomes the predominant system, viruses will start popping up. So for now, I fully encourage people to keep using their PC's: they are the shield between me and an erased Hard Drive.

iRevolt
soylent_greentastic
...Macs dont have viruses because the hackers feel that their users already suffer enough.

And I have a PC even though I don't game o.O ....wait. Mac has tetris, right?

iNtelligence
Sooba
QUOTE (Dismeeir @ Jan 31 2007, 11:49 AM) *
macs cant run viruses. thats great. macs also cant run a majority of the latest games without virtual pc, greatly slowing down its cpu speed making it hard to run said latest games. that is not so great. yes, macs are superior to pc when it comes to art, editing and so on, making it an ideal work computer. not so much for the other things though.



QUOTE (3VIL_L337 @ Feb 1 2007, 01:23 AM) *
You people actually like Macs?
Well, i guess im biased becasue the onlything i use my main computer for is Kickin' T3h ass in games.
Which macs cant run.

The computer im on now is a school issued piece o' shit dell laptop.

Man, you guys are so so so misinformed.

For starters, many many more games are coming out for the mac. those games you want to run but "can't"? Just load up boot camp and away you go. There is no reason aside from price to stick with a PC anymore. You'll have crappy software, lousy support, and virus to contend with while you do. Trust me, the mac WILL rise. and I shall be there to watch as it smites you PC users. and I will laugh. vigorously.
soylent_greentastic
Macs can "run viruses", there's just not that many out there for them.


And I was just arguing for the sake of arguing before, but sooba... you do realize mac users have been saying that for years now, right?
King Seth
WoWs monthly cost is the same as going to see two movies, it's not that expensive. Sure there IS a cost, but all hobbies cost something.
Sooba
QUOTE (soylent_greentastic @ Feb 1 2007, 06:21 AM) *
Macs can "run viruses", there's just not that many out there for them.
And I was just arguing for the sake of arguing before, but sooba... you do realize mac users have been saying that for years now, right?

yeah, but I will usher in a new age (Like CAD ethan) Correction, there are no true viruses. its the way the privledging system works, doesn't allow unauthorized programs to run and access things they shouldn't (the joys of Unix ^^)
Etoh the Greato
When I first got a mac I picked up some books to learn the ropes (it was a little confusing, having been a windows geek my whole computer life), and that book said that as of that writing there were no viruses for the current Mac OS. There was one known virus for the previous, and it just played a funny noise. Nothing malicious. Unix is harder to program for. That's kind of a double edged sword, but it's largely kept the script kiddies from playing havoc with our systems. Only real hackers would ever really try something.
Sooba
I have a copy of the OS 9 virus, just to laugh at :-p
But there are no working OS X viruses, and theres a 10k reward for anyone who can write one (but not release it to the public)
Etoh the Greato
Alright, so there's a cash reward for the first guy to write a virus and it's not been done yet? What the heck!


Damn I wish I knew unix.
Sooba
QUOTE (Etoh the Greato @ Feb 1 2007, 09:27 PM) *
Alright, so there's a cash reward for the first guy to write a virus and it's not been done yet? What the heck!
Damn I wish I knew unix.

yup. proof of concept virus, but you'd have to be pretty damn clever to do it too :-p
MaDSaM
Can you say: Off Topic biggrin.gif
*LOL*

Well, nice to see you were convinced by Mac... errr Wow.. or was it?
*grin*

CU
SaM
Sooba
topic? what is this topic of which you speak?'

WoW: Play it or I'll rip your heart out. Nough said
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