I have a strange feeling, that Krunch will lead the remaining Bloodrage to Kethenecia. Since his father asks Krunch how he would lead them, Krunch would probably make sure his tribe would be safe. After all, Kethenecia is safe, has lots of room, and Cale would probably be more than happy to "give" them housing in "his" city.

What are your thoughts on this, could this feeling o' mine be correct? Or am I just assuming things that have no chance of actually coming true?

((Also, this is my first post on this forum, please be nice ))

It would make sense given the direction the story's going in (overall), but doesn't necessarily mean the remaining Bloodrage would want to go. Krunch did leave them, and despite the fact that their previous leader pretty much led them to complete ruin, they still might not want to leave their homeland. Then again, the argument could be made that Legara is seriously planning on invading, and with their homeland the way it is it would be best for them to move to a safer place, what with all of their warriors dead and all.

Kind of what I was thinking, but I also can't help but wonder whether Krunch's honor would allow it. I mean, he did say he knew of honor, and the Bloodrage seem to take it quite seriously, so I'm left wondering whether or not Krunch's honor would let him ask Cale for help, and whether or not the Bloodrage would allow themselves to BE helped.

I could see that happening.

Krunch and Cale might try to unify all the remaining tribes under the banner of Kethenecia, and then meet Legara in an epic battle, involving much Richard-inflicted carnage (but that's just wishful thinking).
And there's still Tavor to deal with.

Could be, but Kethenecia is on another continent entirely than the one (Legara) they're currently on[*], an ocean's voyage away. It's a tad impractical.

And storywise I doubt Krunch and the others will go back and forth just to escort a few survivors. They already went once, from Port of Tyne to Kethen Wastelands, then through time and back, from Kethenecia back across the sea to Legara. Most adventure plots do not visit the same place twice, because that would be boring. Been there, done that.

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[*] Do we have a name for the continent that Kethenecia, Gaten's unnamed village, and the volcano wasteland with Elttil Chtib 's hordes are on?

I wonder if Legara even qualifies as a continent? Or is it a large island? Sure, it has the city of Legarion, the ruins of Gamlon, the Port of Tyne, Gnome Mountain, the Borderlands of the Minotaurs, and some other stuff, but on the map I've seen all those places looked rather close together.

Does anyone have a link to the map of Legara? Is it still online? I can't find it under "Codex" or "Extras", and "Archives" is for the comic issues.

The Port of Tyne was in Legara, so you just contradicted yourself. And of course they're going to return to Kethencia, that's Cale's (read: Archmage's) new city. I don't see them returning to, say, the gnome stronghold in the Mountain That Eats People, but what would possess you to say they wouldn't go back to Kethencia given what a huge part of this story it is?

I think if we've learned anything from this comic, it's that minor obstacles like, say, 'time' and 'space' and 'paradoxes' and 'physical impossibility' don't get in the way of Cale and his band. If he and Krunch want to take the Bloodrage to Kethenecia, then they're damn well going to Kethenecia, and no mere ocean will stand in their way. After all, nothing stands in the path of the Bloodrage.

*insert Ray'd foaming at the mouth and hacking at the ocean with his battleaxe*

But are they going back to the location "Port of Tyne"? Not as far as we know.


If there's a legitimate story reason to revisit Kethenecia, yes. To go there just to ferry over some survivors, drop them off and then go back to Legara AGAIN to fight the Legion seems like a waste of time and comic space.

*shrug* Let's wait and find out.

When you put it like that, sure. The way you were wording it before made it seem like you thought it was the stupidest thing in the world for them to go back to Kethencia since they'd already been there.

But yea.

It sounds like a very tangible and logical idea. But, the Bloodrage's "current" leader is seriously deluded and full of greed and the tribe itself are too loyal. Loyalty is good and all, but not to a point where you are too loyal and are following a leader who cannot lead himself to safety, let alone a whole friggin' tribe.

If the Bloodrage tribe are smart, they'd listen to Krunch. But the chances are they won't because what the chief says goes, apparently. They're simply too loyal for their own damn good. And, in a real-life circumstance, it'd get them killed. This of course, is fictional and because most of the characters should've already died by now (lol) there is a chance they may pull-through, even through their foolish loyalty.

Well, there IS about to be a little fight, and the current Bloodrage leader (heh) may not have too much more to say about it.

ya this seems very likely it is his city and it needs more pepoel i think in the end richard goes to kill pepole cale leads his city and thats all!

And if we're all lucky, he won't.

How much of the Bloodrage tribe is left, anyway? Unless i'm mistaken, Ray'd's little troup of (male) warriors are the last remaining, except for the king and the minotaur boy who hid in the bushes. The other warriors of the tribe were sent out by their king to launch a final attack on all fronts and got slaughtered to a man (or bull),. The rest of the tribe, the non-warriors, females and children, were all killed during the attack on the Bloodrage city.

Which means Krunch's mother is dead, too, and the only remaining Bloodrage are all MALE. No females left, unless some managed to run away and hide. Bye bye, tribe. Even if they emigrate to Kethenecia, they won't be able to breed. A bit like the situation of the last surviving Melnibonéan dragonriders after prince Elric had razed his own people's last remaining city, sunk their fleet and destroyed their civilization. They all became mercenaries. (Not that it mattered much, because a few years later their world was utterly destroyed by the forces of Chaos, anyway.)

I think it was implied somewhere that they shunted the women and children off somewhere else. I'm not going to say 'somewhere safe' because, seriously, look who orchestrated all this.

Even if the females were wiped out, we don't know that in the LFG universe, interbreeding can't happen, so Bloodrage halfbreeds could endure. I mean, look at Benny. There don't seem to be a whole lot of her race walking around for her to get paired with... Actually, that leads to an interesting/strange idea. If Krunch and Benny got together we'd get some kinda Cow/troll hybrid as heir to the Bloodrage clan. X3

Now that would be something of Richard-esque randomenss. I could see him helping to raise it up. Teaching it to slaughter, maim, burn and sing.

But honestly I don't see it happening. The relationship between them is definitely just uncle-like. It would go against all the morality (if there is any) of the comic. Not to mention they could get sued for showing beastiality and partial incest...

I'm pretty sure you can't sue someone for depicting bestiality and incest. If that was the case, Jay Naylor would have been in the hole a long time ago.