Those aren't the updated acronyms. The ones for WothLK. I got my hands on those!

Alright I'm too lazy to go through and read 47 pages so I'll just throw in my info.

I've only got one toon that I started a couple months ago.
Kelada, just dinged level 35 blood elf prot pally on Blackwing Lair.
I'm not a huge fan of the PVP server but I don't have my own account so the one toon is there so I can play with a friend. Oh, I just joined "Overlords of the Horde" too. Fun guild, for now.

Man. I'm sitting here and it's been about 10 or so mins and the PTR patch is only 5-6% done out of 900 MB. I think this is gonna take awhile...

70 warlock, velen. the worst server possible. cant believe i transferred to it.

less than 2 months til WOTLK now... i'm freakin out!

What server would that be? Aegwynn or something?

Luckily for me, while I'm at work, I text my buddy Jake and go:

JAKE. GO ON WOW. DNLD PTCH. K?

I can't say for certain if they're implementing another patch or not. All I know is the test realms are down.

I already know they are. If you've read the recent patch notes: basically the patches that are coming up are going to be setting up for the upgrade in WotLK. Remember when they had that patch-mania before BC? Well, its the same thing. The few months before it comes out, they're going to try and update everything they can so that there aren't too many follies in the beginning.

let's see, I was a 49 paladin, just quit a while ago, gave all my money to some random guild, thinking about starting again...stupid addiction!

If you're going to have an addiction. At least get one toon to lvl 70 or lvl 80 in the expac.

Okay, I know this thread is about WoW and not Warcraft in general, but I felt like posting these up somewhere.

Lawful Good - Anduin Lothar
Neutral Good - Malfurion Stormrage
Chaotic Good - Rexxar
Lawful Neutral - Tyrande Whisperwind (Reign of Chaos version)
True Neutral - Kael'Thas Sunstrider (the Frozen Throne version)
Chaotic Neutral - Grom Hellscream (Reign of Chaos version)
Lawful Evil - Kil'Jaeden the Deceiver
Neutral Evil - Arthas Menethil (Death Knight version)
Chaotic Evil - Mannoroth the Destructor

i miss Warcraft 3 Kael. SO much better than him in WoW...

seriously. Kael got completely destroyed character-wise between games. he was still semi-salvage-a-ble... til patch 2.4.

i like 2.4 and all, dont get me wrong... but i did NOT like how they destroyed what was left of kael's character for it. =/

oh god how i dread what WotLK is gonna do to Arthas... i never liked arthas much... but seeing the trend....

*looks at illidan, maiev, kael, magtheridon, ectect*

STOP MURDERING THE STORY FOR THE SAKE OF MARKETING! OH GOD PLEASE! D:

To be honest, I hated Kael in Warcraft 3 already. He seemed no less emo to me. Well he was less insane, but definitely not less emo.

About Arthas, it's weird. He's a perfect example of Lawful Stupid on the start of the Alliance campaign, then turns to a fallen hero, and in an interesting twist of events he develops into some anti-hero in Frozen Throne.

But call me crazy, I think Akama or Jaina Proudmoore would be a better example for True Neutral.

lol i wont deny that kael was emo-esc. but i certainly cant blame him. full emo would mean he didnt have a real reason for his overdone behaviour. part of it is his personality, part of it is the pressure on him. but all-in-all he was just trying to help his people. and failed. miserably. died thinking he still was helping. its a pathetic finish really.

... i had too much fun saying "burn it with FIRE" every time i sent him to kill something. and you wouldnt believe the amount of lumber i lost because i was going happy on the Flamestrike. I REGRET NOTHING!

regardless... i found Arthas irritating as hell at first. then creepy. then hilarious. but i just didnt liken to him. first impressions, prolly.

and i agree about Akama. Jaina is a goody-goody, frankly. so much so that shed rather not fight. least thats wht i felt.

To me she seemed more like a sorceress that'd much rather spend time in a private library and only got involved into the politics because she was the only reliable person left who had the capacity to lead that little exodus, thus I called her neutral.

I can so totally imagine her pacing around in Aran's library and studying new ways to destroy things with, paying no attention to that poor soul that still haunts it.

Oh and about Lawful Neutral - Maiev Shadowsong.

Also, Kel'Thuzad is a perfect example of Lawful Evil. I always liked the guy, in WC3, and in WoW he's a great raid boss, even at 70. To a lesser extent, Sylvannas Windrunner is Lawful Evil too after she gets turned into a Banshee.

just dont kill mr. bigglesworth~!! youll incur the wrath of Kel'Thuzad


but i see your point about Jaina. but i still figure she's good. shes the humanitarian type. even though she gets so caught up in her studies. all about opinion i suppose.

We had a raid rule about that to be honest. Sure it's fun to see Kel'Thuzad go all emo the first few times but then it gets kinda lame. And it doesn't change the KT encounter in any way.

Oh and the most chaotic evil encounter in Naxxramas: Heigan the Unclean. I LOVE that boss encounter. In fact, the whole plague wing is awesome.

I think that Maiev starts as Lawful Neutral but moves to something akin to Lawful Chaotic Neutral Evil Neutral around when she arrives at Lordaeron.

To me she still seems pretty Lawful, but the type of lawfulness changes from adhering to the code of justice to zealously sticking to one's own code of conduct.

But that's me...I'd also consider an anarchist to be a pretty lawful person, which is beside the point - just saying I consider both adhering to a rule of society as well as following one's own beliefs without straying to be aspects of lawfulness.

Hm. I wonder if I can pair up any more alignments with Warcraft lore characters.

Archimonde the Defiler is at least Neutral if not Chaotic Evil...I'd say Sylvannas Windrunner is Lawful Evil after the incident with Arthas. Lord Aiden Perenolde, now that's Chaotic Neutral for you.

Sargeras - Neutral Evil
Jaina - Neutral Good
Thrall - Lawful Good
Fandral Staghelm - Chaotic Neutral/Evil (depending on whether he's going to assrape the whole Night Elf society, as seems possible, or not)
Medivh (post-possession) - Chaotic Good
Alexandros Mograine - Lawful Good
Every dreadlord ever - Lawful Evil
Orgrim Doomhammer (post-WC2 portrayal) - True Neutral
Gul'Dan - Neutral Evil

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We had a raid rule about that to be honest. Sure it's fun to see Kel'Thuzad go all emo the first few times but then it gets kinda lame. And it doesn't change the KT encounter in any way.

Oh and the most chaotic evil encounter in Naxxramas: Heigan the Unclean. I LOVE that boss encounter. In fact, the whole plague wing is awesome.

Ugh. The Heigan Dance. That was torture for awhile until enough people in my guild were able to not fail at it to kill him everytime. At least I could bubble through some of it.

Thaddius wasn't as horrific, though. Because you didn't have to keep moving. Just had to be ready to switch if you're polarity switched. Though, that was hard too for a bit.

20 levels to go on my priest, woo hoo?

I don't remember leveling being this slow.

Not while Tyrande is the High Priestess.

@Redington. Indeed. In WotLK in Naxx II you'll have to survive about 5 dances to be able to kill him.

Got a frost mage to 60 in two days playing time.

Yeaaa, gonna provide a screenshot in a minute, or when I get home. Whichever happens first.

I wish I had that time...

Got my main, a Tauren fury warrior, to 21 last night in lieu of homework. Paying for that now.

But, I get to run SFK soon. So, I'm excited.

took my warlock from just turned 54 on friday evening to 56 1/2 sunday night

and im not even finished with un'goro crater & felwood yet >.<

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20 levels to go on my priest, woo hoo?

I don't remember leveling being this slow.

Actually. The made leveling up faster. At level 20 to level 60, quest experience has been increased and from level 30 to level 60, the amount of experience it takes to level up has been decreased. Pretty much from level 60 to 70, the best way to level up is to have a good instance group to run with and go with that.

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@Redington. Indeed. In WotLK in Naxx II you'll have to survive about 5 dances to be able to kill him.

I hear the Heigan Dance will go at a somewhat slower rate than what it was before. That show help out immensly. Though, the slow-learning people will still have problems, I'm sure.

Woot! I got my bear mount. *happy dance*

I remember that. The second time is the slowest.

The first time takes the longest but it's all new you so you don't mind so much. The second time feels unbelievably slow (my second was a Draenei Shaman so it felt nice until I got to 20 and then torture until 58 even though I actually managed to shave a good deal of time off my levelling).

Third and fourth (64 druid and 56 Paladin for me, more or less concurrently) felt okay because I spent my time listening to sweet podcasts rather than pay attention to what I was doing. And by the third time around, you know the areas enough to just blaze through without having to stop - especially when you have a bag-maker.

From what some guildies have said, once you're up to (and past) number five, it's all just monotony you don't even pay attention to.

I think for most people after like the 2nd or 3rd character, leveling becomes really boring and hard to do. At least, it's like that for me. Just look at the stats on my toons.

lvl 70 Paladin
lvl 70 Rogue
lvl 67 Druid (Horde; last three levels SUCK)
lvl 50 Mage
lvl 47 Shaman
lvl 36 Priest
lvl 32 Warlock
lvl 31 Rogue (Horde)
And the rest are below lvl 20.

You want some podcasts or even some DVDs of television series. Boston Legal levelled my druid and Nip/Tuck got my paladin up there. Once you're familiar enough with the game that you barely need to be present to correctly operate it, you're at optimal levelling speed. Hell, I haven't played WoW in about two months and I can still perform my optimal DPS rotation for solo, melee party and caster party.

Which is something I'm both looking forward to and dreading in Lich King. Shaman DPS rotation is going to stop being (mostly) three buttons and will turn into five or six. It will make snoozing through the Kara equivalent more difficult.

I had a lvl 63 Undead Shadow Priestess on Stormreaver
Currently have in limbo a Priestess on I think Lightbringer or Dalaran.

With the expansion coming out..I should really start playing again. But the reinstall is gonna be hell. v.v'

i know that the download for the 3.0 patch is almost a gig

when i downloaded the original game onto my computer it said it would take 5 1/2 hours

it took 90 mins and that is including all the patches

when i downloaded BC, it said it would take 4 hours

took around an hour, including patches

apparently the 3.0 patch downloaded while i was playing so im not sure how long that took

good luck though

PS - got my lock to 58 last night and got my infernal

Not to say you had one of the funnies encounters in the game, too.

Beware of El Pollo Grande, The Black Chicken of Death!

that chicken was hilarious!!


hit 59 last night

*sigh*

College keeps getting in the way of WoW. I wish I could play more.

One night when one of my guildies accidentaly DE'd an item, a GM personally intervened after a ticket. And apart from restoring the item, he also did some fun stuff. That included spawning El Pollo Grande in front of Black Temple.

And when he said that we should give his regards to Illidan as he hates him and is not going to enter BT therefore, I answered "You only say that because YOU ARE NOT PREPARED!". Then he said "Oh, I am" and breathed fire all over us. "Are you?"

Linkey Linkey

That's a mage! He needs to be a lock =(

I'll sell my 70 BE rogue for like, a cookie.

hehehehe

*insert evil laugh*

i got rick to play wow again

and now im getting a zevhra mount

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I'll sell my 70 BE rogue for like, a cookie.

Probably not even worth that much. Heh

You're either full of shit, using rested xp through 70, or you really do have nothing else to do. I honestly see no other alternative.

Mini tyrael pet from wow invitational paris invite. That pet alone (when wotlk comes out, because a BoA (bound to account) item) I could easily get a lot of money for it.

Guh -- go to www.worldofwarcraft.com and look up the current recruit a friend bonus. You get to give your friend a free level every 2 levels, and 3x XP from, well, everything.

I'm well aware of recruit-a-friend. I don't consider that real leveling. Blizzard had made it easy before, but FFS, is that really necessary?

Wotlk takes 10 hours between 70-71, and up to 12 hours by the time you're 78-79.

It's necessary to allow people to catch up, or roll what they want before the xpac.

One of the reasons I left blizzard, was because of the fact they primarily did it to support the rise of multi-boxers, for more income, and as expected, it seems they have had quite the increase in accounts since this new RAF.

It's another reason I quit wow.

QUOTE(Farix @ Sep 27 2008, 03:14 AM) [snapback]299858[/snapback]

Mini tyrael pet from wow invitational paris invite. That pet alone (when wotlk comes out, because a BoA (bound to account) item) I could easily get a lot of money for it.

Well, why didn't you say that in the first place? Definitely worth more than a cookie (unless it's an ultimately damn good cookie, I guess).

It seems to me that if someone wants to play a certain class, they should level it without excessive help from friends and not being given full levels by another marketing scheme.

Heh, let them get carried. Means they won't learn to play their class and I can mock them with my skillz when they hit 80.

QUOTE(Vegos @ Sep 27 2008, 10:29 AM) [snapback]299918[/snapback]

Heh, let them get carried. Means they won't learn to play their class and I can mock them with my skillz when they hit 80.

Yeah but having more noobs at that lvl can be a pain sometimes. Specially if you have to do pug 5 mans. (God forbid anything more challenging than that like 10 mans.)