ookieday

and apparently cat form druids are like rogues

but it takes a bit before you get cat form, so stick with a rogue

i had fun playing my rogue

im just having more fun playing my lock and hunter

My friend Kev has last like one lock named tendrils but multilple clones of it lol

I believe you get cat form about lvl 20. And yes, they are very similar to rogues in using energy to use abilities as well as a few stuns, but that's as close as you get.


If it takes too long to kill stuff on your paladin, then you're doing something wrong. Go ret and get a good two-hander, that will speed things up. Though, looking at the server thread, you say you're paladin is lvl 8, Reader. It is kinda slow in the start but I found that a paladins dps is very steady unless you are getting alot of misses. You don't get any +hit gear until a good bit later though; so don't worry about it too much.




The hardest class to level up? Hmm, not too sure but I think warrior comes somewhat close. Each class has a good lvling spec so it just depends if you know how to play the class right or not.

Warrior probably takes the longest to level up if you're new or not very good.

That said, the game isn't very challenging and it's always been a case of simply mashing the keyboard long enough to eventually gain success. On my first trip to 60 with a Warlock, I would frequently just bull through everything I came across including elite mobs.

No you're right the game has never been "hard" Its just that its so ridiculously easy to level now that it takes away a lot of the fun I had with my first char. But my question wasnt if the game was hard or not, the question is was the warrior the hardest class to level because of lack of CC, lack of self heals, and lack of a pet.

I wouldn't necessarily say leveling a warrior is hard but it is time comsuming... just like with most of everything in the game is time consuming.

i dont have a problem leveling, i have a problem getting money

the AH on my server is really bad right now and i just cant seem to make any money on it

any help on how to make money?

and no i dont have a level 70 so i cant just do dailies and trickle down the money

In my humble opinion, the warrior is by quite a distance the hardest to level. It was my first character and while it's probably the easiest if you have a leveling buddy who happens to be a healer, rolling solo is quite the challenge, i spent a great deal of my time picking which fights could and could not be one, you have to be smart about leveling a warrior solo, not nearly as simple as any other character i leveled proved to be.

I'd never use the AH to buy anything unless you absoultely need to get something for a quest or something. Other than that, your usually wasting you'r money.


Or use one of your alts for gathering professions and just level them up as much as you can and sell whatever you can gather. But that's time consuming as well.

HMMMM ok so there is alot of WoW fans here I take it, PLZ dont murder me but I cant afford the monthly fee, So I started GUILD WARS and find it tooo be much better. Like I said please dont murder me Im too pretty for all that blood

If you don't have a 70, you're going to be broke.

Each successive alt gets cheaper to level (because you can simply send big bags down for little or no cost rather than having to keep replacing them as they become affordable) but without someone at the top, you're going to struggle.

Realistically, your only option is to simply sell everything and die as little as possible. Quest smart, sticking to zones to minimise downtime, avoid travelling to a city just for skills unless that level has something crucial. Basically, the whole goal is to streamline the process.

The AH will not help you until you have hundreds of gold to invest. If you're of a mind, an alt raising two gathering professions can make some good scratch by simply selling all the low-level stuff people prefer to buy with their daily gold rather than farm for themselves but this can vary wildly. One week I was making a gold per stack and another was down to thirty-five silver.

Money will not be plentiful for you for a long time. Even when you get to the goal, it's more or less a thousand out of your pocket for a flying mount.

Not to mention about 5200 for an epic mount (5000 for the skill, 200 for the actual mount)


Pretty much what Verbose said is true. You don't really start making the gold until you get a lvl 70 or get gathering professions up (which require you to lvl up a toon anyway if you want to start gathering higher lvl stuff to sell).

And thanks to better auction mods, the AH is a ruthless, cut-throat industry where it's quite difficult to make a profit.

The only time I managed to make any real money was when some of the new leatherworking things came out and I happened to be the only guy selling the +10 stam patches. Turned each 3g stack of leather into nearly 30g for the first three days. Then the competition began and by eight days after the beginning, it was almost breaking even.

There's very few genuine ways to make money in that game, especially since dailies reward sheer determination.

It also depends on your server too. Some things may go for more on one server but go for less on another. But I think most of the time, things on all servers are about even. Barring new servers were things are going to be inflated since there's a low population in the beginning.



Anywho, I was looking at the new WotLK talent trees the other night and I'm kinda like were some things are going but others don't seem that very interesting. If only I was in the WotLK beta. *sadpanda* I want to try out the death knight! And also some other things too.

I want to have a second 70 before I get a new toon, so I'll probably lvl my warrior, then make a DK, lvl it and my rouge, and then make a priest, I'd be satisfied then. I hope its a relative to the paladin in that its self supportive in healing and tanking.

BTW, I just remembered a WSG my lock was in, we beat them surprisingly easily, and took it for granted until I realized I had most healing done for the horde side, and from then on I looked at healers differently.

I've only really been keeping an eye on my class and there have been sweeping changes in the sweeping changes.

It'll depend on how things play out by the end.

I can't remember but you said you were a shammy, right Verb?

Seems like they didn't do too much with the shammy talents. I'm not exactly sure, though; my shammy's only lvl 47.

I am a shaman.

And quite a lot of what they've changed for us is core game mechanics. Looking at the talent trees simply doesn't give you the right idea of the breadth of those changes. For example, we now get only one point of AP from strength (used to get two) and now we get one from Agility (whereas before we got none). A talent in the Enhancement tree also gives us a one to one ratio for Intelligence and AP.

Suddenly, Rogue gear isn't our ideal. In fact, rough theorycrafting has suggested that our core itemisation has shifted completely. Now, hunter gear is usually want we want and druid gear takes a close second place. Then there's changes to totems (now they have a 30 yard range without talents and affect the whole raid) as well as specific totems (Flametongue has a passive spellpower boost, Grace of Air and Strength of Earth are now one totem, Windfury is now a 16%-20% passive haste bonus). We've had quite a few boosts.

*sniff* I guess I've kept it to myself for long enough.....


My personal wotlk beta screenshots
group with screenshots from several people who use flickr

as for making gold..... I find that on any server I roll on, mining is a great way to make moneys, even at the low levels. If you want to focus solely on making moneys, take two gathering professions- skinning and mining/herb. don't double up on mining and herb because you can only have one tracker up at a time. and sell EVERYTHING you get from those.

Once you get higher leveled(55-70) I recomend dropping one(the least profitable-duh) and taking enchanting. not necessarily to enchant stuff, but to DE it. dust and shards tend to sell for crazy prices, and you can dust 99% of quest rewards that you get.(or dust whatever you replaced)

From there.... daily's and farming. You've gonna have to spend some time farming. Use google and find some "gold making guides" most have maps that will show you excellent paths for farming mats. Try to learn what timezone the majority of your server is in and when they're all active and farming so you can farm at different times. Weekends are bad for farming due to school being out and people who don't have to work weekends. evenings are bad for the same reasons.

And here's the trick to actually saving up moneys- Make a bank alt.
From here, you can go one of two ways. 1- Send EVERYTHING to your bank alt. Then, whenever, log to your bank alt and AH stuff, bank it whatever. DONT send all profits back to your main. Just let it sit on your bank. Then, when your main needs money(beyong what it makes from quests and mobs) you can send it *what it needs*.
2- Sell the stuff with your main and at the end of each gaming session, send a set percentage to your bank toon and don't touch it. 50% or 75% is best. Sending a small percentage won't really rack up a lot of G quickly.

And verb already touched on this- the AH is brutal. Get auctioneer or some such mod and keep track of your chosen market. Make sure that you're selling for good price. If prices are low one week, save your stuff and sell it the next. If you're the only one with a material that normally sells for 5g- jack the price up.(if it's a in-demand item) I had the market on light leather up at 5g a stack once when its normally 1 or 2g.

Will work for WotLK key.

*cry*



Edit: One of your pics of the Storm Peaks (I think) area is now my desktop background.

thanks for the tips guys

ive been doing pretty good with the low level enchating mats. it helps that there isnt a fee to list them on the AH

for a while i was making 5-6G a stack for light leather, now it has tanked, and not because it has been flooded. so many people are seriously under cutting the prices. instead of at least geting 1-2G a stack, people are selling the stacks for like 50S, it has really been sad. i would have bought up the the lower cost goods, but i just dont have enough money to play that game right now. i have been sitting back and waiting for the market to turn around a bit.

jaezelle - those pictures are really awesome! thanks for sharing

That's the AH for you. Item prices fluxuate and you can only do so much to stablize it.

Ah had gotten crazy before I quit playing. Unless I had amazing stuff, i wass breaking even or coming out behind.

Holy Crud there's alot of posts in here. well, a friend of mine just forced me to buy WoW after playing the trial for a couple days. Yeah, I'm hooked. The only thing is, this is alot safer than my meth addiction, I think. yeah, I'm a super geek now. I'll post what realms i'm in and what my names are as soon as i write them down so i can get some help from people. (hopefully)

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Holy Crud there's alot of posts in here. well, a friend of mine just forced me to buy WoW after playing the trial for a couple days. Yeah, I'm hooked. The only thing is, this is alot safer than my meth addiction, I think. yeah, I'm a super geek now. I'll post what realms i'm in and what my names are as soon as i write them down so i can get some help from people. (hopefully)

Did he make you get an account so he can get the zeebra mount? rofl

Zebra mount? Wha....

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/raf-splash.htm


darnit it's supposed to be the first thing that comes up on the rotating view box thing...

It's a mythical land. Why put Zebra's in there? A Zerg mount would have been much cooler.

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It's a mythical land. Why put Zebra's in there? A Zerg mount would have been much cooler.

Actually there is the Qiraji mount that's pretty rare that looks like a zerg mount...

But it's not a damn Zerg. I want a Mutalisk for my flying, and a Hydralisk for my ground.

Meh. the AQ mounts are fairly useless, especially since they're only usable in AQ. And the one that is usable everywhere.... well, there's only one per server, making it useless, too. (I think the exception to the 1per rule is server transfers)

What?

No it doesn't make it useless. It makes it the rarest, that's all. Well technically the rarest because you pretty much can't get them anymore unless you can still do the open the AQ gates quest when a new server comes online. And you get to use it anywhere not like the nerfed ones. Those ones are useless (for the most part).

What are you people talking about? in human speech please.

There's an event that only happens once per server- the opening of the AQ gates(AQ being a set of instances) THE person to open the gates gets a mount- the only one on that server. That mount can be used anywhere- outlands, azeroth, and northrend when it hits.

The other, more common, varieties of the same mount are ONLY usable in the AQ areas...

Wow. That seems difficult.

I believe that may have been the point....

I'll bet that pisses a lot of players off. Level all the way to 70, get so close, and then, BAM, some guy opens em right before you do.

Actually.... I think that was back in the days of the 60 level cap.

Still, hit the level cap, and then, BAM, you lose.

You don't hit the lvl cap and then lose. You lost whenever they got the gates opened. Circa January of 2006 about (if I remember right).

Unless you can still get one on a new server when that server comes online. Which would mean you'd have to pay for a server transfer to get there, somehow pay/convince/etc people there to make sure you get the mount. After you get the mount, you'd have to wait 3 months or less (depending on how long it took to get the mount) to pay the 25 bucks again to transfer back to your old server.

That seems like an incredible amount of work for a damn animal.

Which is why very very very very few people are lucky enough to have it.

I think that does nothing but show that you have no life and no gf or bf. Sad, really.

There's a counter-productive attitude.

I know plenty of people who "have a life" and a lot of the time it consists solely of heading out to a club or pub, getting between mildly and extremely drunk and then trying to have sex with somebody you don't know, often failing but succeeding enough for the endeavour to be worthwhile.

One hobby is as good as another. I don't see that club-hopping is any more meaningful than playing World of Warcraft. And I say that as somebody who's so unaddicted to the game that I simply stopped playing it weeks ago for no real reason. I had been enjoying it, other stuff just came up.

THIS!!!

this is so untrue in so many ways. i know many, MANY people who play WoW all the time and have a regular "LIFE" as you put it.

just because you play a game in your free time does not qualify you as a reject of society.

or someone's view of society

personally ive had more fun and made more friends in WoW then when i am out in the "real world" having a "life"

think about stuff before you say something like that, just makes you look bad




QFTT

You obviously didn't go to my school. I was in college when it came out, and people dropped everything to play it. Class, friends, girlfriends, boyfriends, hygiene, nutrition. I understand why people get divorced over that damn game. People get so addicted to their fantasy life that they forget to pay attention to their real ones.

Plus, I've never been a big fan of the "become best friends with someone you've never even seen" club. I prefer real world interactions with people who have the same interests I do. Grinding and gold farming and the same mission over and over just doesn't seem appealing at all.

And it only makes me look bad to someone like you, who judges me solely by my words and automatically assumes I have no idea what I'm talking about. I don't bandwagon jump. I make my own informed opinions and state them clearly and concisely. I played WoW, for quite a while, and I have many friends that play WoW. I know lots of people who broke up over it because their significant other wasn't willing to leave a raid group to go spend personal time with someone they cared about.

So before you accuse me of "looking bad", stop and think that maybe a college educated man with personal experience in the game knows what he is talking about.

hmm interesting because i too am college educated, and i don't purposely go around saying things that make me sound like an ass just because i went to college. it isn't a catch all excuse

but that's just me

i understand you have seen the bad side of the game, but to lump everyone into that is just not cool

as for online friends, did it ever occur to you that people can meet in person? Ive met several of my guild members outside of the game, and have plans to meet more of them

ooh look wow players are going outside no that cant be right!

as verbose said people all have hobbies. not everyone turns the game into an addition to the extremes that you speak of. it does happen, but it isn't the rule.