Zoran
Nov 9 2009, 12:19 AM
QUOTE (Beron @ Nov 7 2009, 09:03 AM)

Level 43 Tauren shaman, level 72 Forsaken warrior, levcel 72 Orc warloxk, lwvwl 80 Troll Death Knight, 2 level 80 priests, level 80 and level 79 BElf rogues, level 78 BElf mage, level 66 Troll hunter, level 36 Tauren druid, level 37 NElf rogue, level 27 human warrior (humans just aren't as much fun), level 59 Gnome DK, level 61 NElf DK, level 60 BElf DK... Let's jsut say I'm an altoholic with no life.
Ever meet a Mage Named Richard, Druid named Orin, or a paladin named Zoran on Sisters of Elune?
Beron
Nov 9 2009, 05:25 AM
QUOTE (Zoran @ Nov 8 2009, 07:19 PM)

Ever meet a Mage Named Richard, Druid named Orin, or a paladin named Zoran on Sisters of Elune?
I think I may have passed Richard and Zoran on an occasion or two. Possibly Orin. Nozumi is just a few areas in Zul'drak away from the Northrend exploration achievement and tabard too (and aside from the rest of Azeroth, that is--still catching her and Arrandia up, even if Noz hit 80 a couple weeks ago. Got Arra to 79). Both my rogues are 80 now. The higher level ones ,that is. I have a level 19 troll rogue right now. She's actually a placeholder for my goblin, but rogues are so much fun (the quests).
My warrior has a few bubbles over my warlock, so she's the next one I'll work on to get to 80. They're both 72 right now. Although my hunter will be working on a new kennel and pet. I had it on good authority that a ravasaur from Un'goro makes for a good tanking pet in raids till your hunter's geared (and after that, moths, though I still like Dainty, Laaru's dragonhawk, her first pet, and Jolt, a thunderhawk cloudscraper, her second pet. Her third was Gammerita, but it wouldn't let her keep that name, so she's Gamma).
Shnezz
Nov 12 2009, 02:58 PM
So. I'm going to tell you a story about a friend of mine. Let's call him Bob. Now Bob, he likes to cause trouble. In ways that WoW allows him to, at that. So, what does Bob do? Bob decides to make a character devoted to tailoring and engineering. To use raw materials from other characters to make money? No. To spend other character's money getting to max tailoring level, and high engineering. For what purpose? He wanted to have a flying carpet mount, wear a robe and turban, and use the goblin engineering Sapper Charges.
Yes. Bob created a flying terrorist. In WoW. And it is entirely 'not racist'.
Beron
Nov 12 2009, 05:36 PM
QUOTE (Shnezz @ Nov 12 2009, 09:58 AM)

So. I'm going to tell you a story about a friend of mine. Let's call him Bob. Now Bob, he likes to cause trouble. In ways that WoW allows him to, at that. So, what does Bob do? Bob decides to make a character devoted to tailoring and engineering. To use raw materials from other characters to make money? No. To spend other character's money getting to max tailoring level, and high engineering. For what purpose? He wanted to have a flying carpet mount, wear a robe and turban, and use the goblin engineering Sapper Charges.
Yes. Bob created a flying terrorist. In WoW. And it is entirely 'not racist'.
*dies* I know people who are leveling two manufacturing professions, and get their alts to collect the raw materials they need for crafting. For me, I'd want, maybe, and engineer and a tailor on one alt to help with the mount achievement. I think it would be funny to have the epics, carpet and copter, both on one alt. The occupational mounts. I'm actually very happy that I made my hunter a miner and engineer, because that copter is funny, air quality notwithstanding.
On a side, and almost completely unrelated note, I wonder why we have so many bored level 80s around... ^^; One offered at random to help my level 72 warrior with the Vengeance Landing. From the way he kept talking about his gear, he'd been rejected as a group or raid candidate because his gear wasn't "leet" enough, presumably for a raid. They should have either a "bored" or "undergeared" channel so these people can commiserate—they have "bookclub" on most, for the "higher learning" achievement, so why not?
Zoran
Nov 16 2009, 12:19 AM
QUOTE (Beron @ Nov 8 2009, 11:25 PM)

I think I may have passed Richard and Zoran on an occasion or two. Possibly Orin.
Sup
QUOTE (Shnezz @ Nov 12 2009, 08:58 AM)

So. I'm going to tell you a story about a friend of mine. Let's call him Bob. Now Bob, he likes to cause trouble. In ways that WoW allows him to, at that. So, what does Bob do? Bob decides to make a character devoted to tailoring and engineering. To use raw materials from other characters to make money? No. To spend other character's money getting to max tailoring level, and high engineering. For what purpose? He wanted to have a flying carpet mount, wear a robe and turban, and use the goblin engineering Sapper Charges.
Yes. Bob created a flying terrorist. In WoW. And it is entirely 'not racist'.
I know of a friend who did that! It was hilarious.
And of course its not racist, if he flew around saying "I bomb joo" then maybe.
QUOTE (Beron @ Nov 12 2009, 11:36 AM)

On a side, and almost completely unrelated note, I wonder why we have so many bored level 80s around... ^^; One offered at random to help my level 72 warrior with the Vengeance Landing. From the way he kept talking about his gear, he'd been rejected as a group or raid candidate because his gear wasn't "leet" enough, presumably for a raid. They should have either a "bored" or "undergeared" channel so these people can commiserate—they have "bookclub" on most, for the "higher learning" achievement, so why not?
I quit WoW mainly due to two reasons.
1) Due to my location my shitty internet hinders me on many levels.
2) I was basically bored.
Only thing I usually did was explain to my guild on how to do this or that on guild chat and ventrillio. And buy cheap materials on the AH, transmute an epic gem and sell it for around 600 gold.
All I did.
Beron
Nov 16 2009, 08:08 AM
It's a bit hard for me to get bored right now, since i'm a questaholic altoholic. Sometimes it sort of bugs me that the easier, starter quests, people beg for groups, lately. Knucklerot and Luzran I can see, if you're under level 21, but seriously, some of the quests... That one quest where you escort the one death guard through the worgs to the other death guards? I usually solo that. It never occurred ot me to group for that. Not until much later, when I do it with a friend, and that's usually for fun, and not because either one of us feels that we need help with it.
A pet peeve of mine is the random group invite. No one asks you to group with them, no discussions about it, they just incite you out of nowhere, and you don't know the person. I usually refuse as a rule, but once in a while, if there's a mob, I'll look around to see if the person is in the same area and having a problem with it. But early on in WoW, I'd accept one, not knowing any better, and it would be, you guessed it, a gold farmer.
I alos refuse to duel. If I want to PvP, I'll do it in a BG, not when I'm trying to get a quest done. If you're right in the middle of something anyway, to get slammed with a challenge to duel is like a slap in the face to me, especially when I'm right in the middle of something. I can see this from a player in the opposing faction, because there is the language barrier, but fro myour own faction? They could at least ask.
Joshmaul
Nov 16 2009, 08:23 AM
QUOTE (Beron @ Nov 16 2009, 03:08 AM)

I alos refuse to duel. If I want to PvP, I'll do it in a BG, not when I'm trying to get a quest done. If you're right in the middle of something anyway, to get slammed with a challenge to duel is like a slap in the face to me, especially when I'm right in the middle of something. I can see this from a player in the opposing faction, because there is the language barrier, but fro myour own faction? They could at least ask.
I don't duel because 1)I know I'm not good at it and 2)because I am no good at it, I have no desire whatsoever to stroke someone else's epeen by giving them the opportunity to kick my ass just because they say "duel me". That's just me, though. (You may laugh if you wish.)
the last templar
Nov 16 2009, 10:57 PM
started playing again, just finally got my pally to 49 which is far for me (I'm a pretty casual player) right before my ship got underway (posting from the ocean). Can't wait to get to 55, I still haven't tried a DK. Looking forward to the Worgen, going to make a Worgen druid. also looking forward to playing 3.3 and it's cross realm LFG (since it came out after my ship left port).
Zoran
Nov 17 2009, 12:10 AM
QUOTE (Beron @ Nov 16 2009, 02:08 AM)

It's a bit hard for me to get bored right now, since i'm a questaholic altoholic. Sometimes it sort of bugs me that the easier, starter quests, people beg for groups, lately. Knucklerot and Luzran I can see, if you're under level 21, but seriously, some of the quests... That one quest where you escort the one death guard through the worgs to the other death guards? I usually solo that. It never occurred ot me to group for that. Not until much later, when I do it with a friend, and that's usually for fun, and not because either one of us feels that we need help with it.
A pet peeve of mine is the random group invite. No one asks you to group with them, no discussions about it, they just incite you out of nowhere, and you don't know the person. I usually refuse as a rule, but once in a while, if there's a mob, I'll look around to see if the person is in the same area and having a problem with it. But early on in WoW, I'd accept one, not knowing any better, and it would be, you guessed it, a gold farmer.
I alos refuse to duel. If I want to PvP, I'll do it in a BG, not when I'm trying to get a quest done. If you're right in the middle of something anyway, to get slammed with a challenge to duel is like a slap in the face to me, especially when I'm right in the middle of something. I can see this from a player in the opposing faction, because there is the language barrier, but fro myour own faction? They could at least ask.
I only do it to piss off my friends :3
QUOTE (Joshmaul @ Nov 16 2009, 02:23 AM)

I don't duel because 1)I know I'm not good at it and 2)because I am no good at it, I have no desire whatsoever to stroke someone else's epeen by giving them the opportunity to kick my ass just because they say "duel me". That's just me, though. (You may laugh if you wish.)
I'm never good at dueling, unless I'm a hunter. Then yer' ass is mine!
QUOTE (the last templar @ Nov 16 2009, 04:57 PM)

started playing again, just finally got my pally to 49 which is far for me (I'm a pretty casual player) right before my ship got underway (posting from the ocean). Can't wait to get to 55, I still haven't tried a DK. Looking forward to the Worgen, going to make a Worgen druid. also looking forward to playing 3.3 and it's cross realm LFG (since it came out after my ship left port).
If I'm allowed, I am going to make my current druid a Worgen when cataclysm comes out. Me and a buddy plan to make Worgen Rogues together though, so I'm going to have a Worgen either way.
And also when I get the cash, I plan to make ALL of my toons to dwarfs. Dwarf mage, hunter, shaman, and paladin.
Beron
Nov 17 2009, 01:30 AM
QUOTE (Joshmaul @ Nov 16 2009, 03:23 AM)

I don't duel because 1)I know I'm not good at it and 2)because I am no good at it, I have no desire whatsoever to stroke someone else's epeen by giving them the opportunity to kick my ass just because they say "duel me". That's just me, though. (You may laugh if you wish.)
They don't usually even just say it to me, though, they just try to do it, without checking to see if I'm in the middle of something. One guy, about a year and a half ago, threatened to report me to the GMs for not dueling! If I was on a PvP realm it might be one thing, but on an RP realm, it's my choice whether I want to duel, or save it for the BG.
Luckily, I was with a couple of friends who actually do enjoy dueling. so they made him happy, and he stopped bugging me.
My favorite DK still has to be my troll, Eos; but she's developed her own personality along the way. And she loves riding her hawkstrider. She's a JC, btw, so the hawkstrider is as much an occupational as mount choice. She still likes her Acherus Death Charger, though. A lot of what Eos is was inspired by the DK minions early on, before they changed it so they no longer spoke when you clicked on them. They used to say stuff like "me like shiny" in this voice that sounded like a pervert on something. ^^; But if she were to say it, it would probably go something like "Yea, I likes me shinies, mon."
If they'd had goblin DKs earlier though... I'm wondering how the racial with the bank will work in the DK realm. So... I'm rolling a goblin DK on another server to find out. I already have space reserved for my worgen. ^^
Hellsing987
Nov 18 2009, 05:30 AM
Anyone here on the Nordrassil server?
Beron
Nov 18 2009, 07:03 AM
QUOTE (Hellsing987 @ Nov 18 2009, 12:30 AM)

Anyone here on the Nordrassil server?
Moon Guard and Ssiters of Elune, here.
Dark_Wych
Nov 19 2009, 03:52 PM
Not entirely sure if anyone really wants to read this, but oh well, it's on topic. I stopped playing WoW just over a year ago, it got incredibly boring after doing the same thing over and over again, nonstop. No changes to the quests on either sides, it was all just repitition. That combined with 80% of the people on RP servers not actually there to RP, 20% actually trying to RP and only 5% actually doing it very well, I gave up on WoW. It wasn't worth paying a monthly fee for in my opinion. Had it been free to play online after purchace, yeah, I woulda kept going. With Cataclysm, I might pick it up again to see if RP improves (Which it never does, it only gets worse. I guess Im setting myself up for disappointment, but hey it's worth a shot) and if the questing is any better. Not to mention the potential to use flying mounts in Azeroth will kick ass. Might actually get a chance to RP some alone time with my character's lover and not have someone barge in "LOL CAN U GIV ME 10 GOLD?".
I get more fun out of RPing on NwN2 servers though, where roleplaying is actually enforced. Seriously, if you aren't there to RP, you are banned. End of problem. Blizzard doesn't enforce roleplaying on thier servers, which really just makes them like normal PvE and PvP servers, just with a few people who actually take thier characters into context.
Gotta love the drama RPers and the demi-gods/demons RPers or some other garbage of that nature. =\
Beron
Nov 19 2009, 04:46 PM
The funniest thing is, I joined an RP server to get into RP, but haven't really done all that much of it, IMO. I have two BElves who started life on Moon Guard and are now on Sisters of Elune, and sometimes they will engage in correspondence. I developed their personae as sisters, and raised their levels together.
My Death Knight, Troll, is pretty much set with something of a background for RP as a JC, because "I likes me shinies, mon"—phrase influenced by what the ghouls used to say when you clicked on them, before they reduced the dialogue to grunts and growls, and what sounds like an occasional grunted "Oy vey" (usually when I send in the minion to draw initial aggro, which I then end up stealing). Death knights are pretty much set up that they can go any number of ways, with character development. Their lives before they were turned by Arthas are nebulous at best, with only the vague knowledge that they were "heroes" of either the Horde or the Alliance. Their previous lives were pretty much torn from them, and they have to re-discover who they are, if not who they were. Sad, really. They can either care, not care, or develop a previous life, preferably with friends they RP with, which they can rediscover gradually.
Since I don't usually play WoW with anyone (excepting guild members, and someone I developed a relationship with through WoW, and it's still sort of settling), any RP I've done has been incidental to my surroundings, and my character's reactions and interactions with them. I've even been greeting some NPCs like old friends.

Although I do recall, around the SW starter area, when I was negotiating bags with a tailor (that was an RP realm too, by the way), in open dialogue, and someone commented towards us, "u 2 sound liek npcs"—we actually thought it was hilarious, someone would say something like that on an RP realm.
Baeron von Bleat
Nov 19 2009, 04:48 PM
I just don't think MMORPG's (at least graphical ones) can really qualify as RP scenarios. Until they combine "Fable" concepts with MMO, I'm thinking it's a lost cause.
WOW doesn't do that (doesn't even come close, you have no control over what you do to appease people or anger people, just a very rigid plot line to follow).
The original EQ at least let you change faction with some of the races that hated you, and you could adjust accordingly.
I think a great RP value MMO would be Fableish (Where you could be arrested, alignment adjusts based on things you do, etc. Throw in Oblivion style quests, where becoming evil has certain people talking to you instead of others, and it'd get very interesting rather quickly).
I might have to give NWN2 a look, it sounds interesting. I played Gemstone 3 ages ago, and I miss a lot of the RP foundations the game had. And I did try an "RP" guild in WOW once, but it was comprised of "guild sessions" where the officers would come up with soap opera stories which were just stupid...
Steakonaplate
Nov 19 2009, 05:00 PM
i started my MMO experience with NWN, back when we could hack the skins and auto level to 20 in 2 minutes. but i like Wow not for the RP but for the storyline it makes you follow and the interaction with friends. and its not repatisous if you move away from the quests and do other things..there is so much to do in the world it gets boring at times as most games do but i enjoyed it greatly. i miss playing.
Baeron von Bleat
Nov 19 2009, 05:18 PM
Don't get me wrong, as far as MMO's are concerned, WOW is a great game. The instances have feeling, the quests are interesting, everything flows well, the story is pretty interesting. I may want a little more dimension, but otherwise I enjoy the game.
But from an RP standpoint, it just doesn't measure up. Everyone is playing a button clicker, who builds a rotation, and plays by it. There's little variety, and no choice for your personality to take. Just an "A or B" decision when you make a character (Race becomes unimportant by level 10, well, or however early you manage to get away from your starting location).
euology
Nov 19 2009, 06:47 PM
I agree - I really miss the RP days on Narc's Tale of Seven Dragons for NWN.
I had soooooOoooo much fun on there. The GM's would get involved sometimes and overall it was very imersive. I remeber sitting around in the Dark Fortress (evil is fun!) planning our ultimate betrayal of the druid circle. Very fun stuff.
At this point I've kinda left wow behind, I really love the people there and my guildies but I think I'm hitting a wall with the game. I was only logging to raid anymore and with the social aspect of the game kinda moot for me I've stepped back some. My accounts still active don't get me wrong, I just have absolutely no motiviation to play. Honestly, I don't even know if the expansion will lure me back in. Maybe it's time for my priesty to retire.
Baeron von Bleat
Nov 19 2009, 06:53 PM
QUOTE (euology @ Nov 19 2009, 01:47 PM)

I agree - I really miss the RP days on Narc's Tale of Seven Dragons for NWN.
I had soooooOoooo much fun on there. The GM's would get involved sometimes and overall it was very imersive. I remeber sitting around in the Dark Fortress (evil is fun!) planning our ultimate betrayal of the druid circle. Very fun stuff.
At this point I've kinda left wow behind, I really love the people there and my guildies but I think I'm hitting a wall with the game. I was only logging to raid anymore and with the social aspect of the game kinda moot for me I've stepped back some. My accounts still active don't get me wrong, I just have absolutely no motiviation to play. Honestly, I don't even know if the expansion will lure me back in. Maybe it's time for my priesty to retire.
I feel the same way

It's a little sad, and I'm really struggling to not cancel my account, but I just don't see myself going back.
Jowy
Nov 21 2009, 07:20 AM
someone popped a server question earlier. If anyone ever gets too bored they can find me on the Suramar server, main chars are listed on my profile. If you ever, as I said get too bored, hit me up there.
Lyrathian
Nov 21 2009, 08:05 AM
Its been a while since I've done anything but go in the battlegrounds. Questing does get boring rather quickly, unless I do them on an RP server where I actually care about the stories behind them.
Beron
Nov 21 2009, 03:28 PM
Questing on an RP server gets you in with a lot of people who don't RP as well as those who do, and also with the people who prefer PvP to RP. There are even people who combine all aspects of the game.
Then, again, there's Cybermoon and Pornshire.
I do have a couple of Alliance toons, though I much prefer the Hrode storyline, thus far. I don't get a chance to go into a lot of the lower Instances because all anyone ever seems to want to do is raid to equip constantly. I don't mind raiding, but not on what seems to be a 24/7 basis. Sorry. Whn you do the same thing over and over, it gets repetitious and boring.
One quest I would like to see: A priest or something go through the DK starter zone. Sort of like the stuff they do with the Lich King's heart bit. You know, when you follow Matthias around. I just think it would be funny for my holy priest get a temporary talent tree to be an unholy DK.
Yes, I have an unovened sense of humor.
Zoran
Nov 26 2009, 06:22 AM
With the graciousness of my friend giving me a time card, I've begun to play WoW again.
My fourth 80 shall soon rise, Sammïch the Shaman!
Redington
Nov 30 2009, 07:47 PM
This might be old news but I'm outta date with WoW as it is... Is it true that you can pay for your character to get a race change? Like say, change my human pally into a dwarf pally? I really wish they had that before I quit playing. >_>
Baeron von Bleat
Nov 30 2009, 07:49 PM
QUOTE (Redington @ Nov 30 2009, 02:47 PM)

This might be old news but I'm outta date with WoW as it is... Is it true that you can pay for your character to get a race change? Like say, change my human pally into a dwarf pally? I really wish they had that before I quit playing. >_>
Yeah. They also have faction swaps. So you can pick an enemy race as well, and change factions on your server (personally I think this is a bit more interesting).
If I go back, first thing I do will be having both of my 80's change to Horde.
Redington
Nov 30 2009, 08:05 PM
Faction change is definitely a good move for them to make available too.
I don't really have much use for it though. I don't really have much friends on horde side on my main toon's server. Though, I suppose if you wanted to xfer to a different server and then switch your faction, that would work pretty good.
Again, I wish they had this shit available when I was still playing but I'll stop whining.
Xanriel
Nov 30 2009, 08:07 PM
QUOTE (Jowy @ Nov 20 2009, 11:20 PM)

someone popped a server question earlier. If anyone ever gets too bored they can find me on the Suramar server, main chars are listed on my profile. If you ever, as I said get too bored, hit me up there.
Eep! My old server! I xfered from Suramar to my current server, Arathor. XD
euology
Nov 30 2009, 08:08 PM
I've only done the name change and it was to adjust a misspelling on my warriors name..
but overall with wow I really think I might be calling it quits. I logged on like 2 days ago just to see..and just didn't really care.. chatted with my fellow officers in /o for a bit... /shrug ...maybe an extended break is all I need atm.. I honestly don't know tho for sure if I'll go back...
accounts still active...even tho the player isn't..heh
Baeron von Bleat
Nov 30 2009, 08:24 PM
QUOTE (euology @ Nov 30 2009, 03:08 PM)

I've only done the name change and it was to adjust a misspelling on my warriors name..
but overall with wow I really think I might be calling it quits. I logged on like 2 days ago just to see..and just didn't really care.. chatted with my fellow officers in /o for a bit... /shrug ...maybe an extended break is all I need atm.. I honestly don't know tho for sure if I'll go back...
accounts still active...even tho the player isn't..heh
I'm really very close to ending my account >.< And finding no redemption to go back...
I think the issue really is that in Burning crusade, progression had a purpose, and a feel to it. You got faction, and quested for storylines. Worked for keys, and really had to build yourself up. It doesn't happen anymore, and it's just a raid grind... and boring boss/raid grinds at that. I think my favorite raid so far was Kharazan (I just think it needed a bit more story). A fun, event filled, linear raid would be a possibility.
But I don't see any game changing elements on the horizon, only tweaks, and it's not selling itself anymore.
Redington
Nov 30 2009, 08:29 PM
Karazhan? It was fun raiding Sunwell before Lich King came out.
Well, Netherspite did have some interesting moments too. And the chess event was fun at first but then got boring.
Baeron von Bleat
Nov 30 2009, 09:03 PM
The act of choreographing 25 people gets a bit ridiculous. While three people having to coordinate to do something tricky would be interesting (I also like raiding without being forced to "Read up on boss strats" first and such.
euology
Dec 1 2009, 01:21 AM
Heh I remember doing heal assigns for 40 mans. Chromagnum anybody? dear lord, healers had to take turns in specific orders to keep the MT alive because healers had to reap the benefits of MP5 time.....and the sand... that was so scary... as a healer if we got timestopped we had to have sand..and enough of it to get through the encounter..... I always preferred being on the back side on dispel and remove disease duty....that was back when decursive worked...button spam zomg!!!
wanna talk ridiculous.... 40 mans... dear lord the 40mans....
sure they were tank and spank, but at the same time some of those fights required quite a bit of coordination.... I remember one time I thought I was going to have a bloody heart attack on Nefarion.... our MT died with Nef at like 10%... a druid ran over, taunted and took over tanking....... DRUIDS DIDNT TANK back then!!!!! druids made HP go up up up!! It was enough time for another druid to BR the MT and get him back over there...but .... scary stuff!!!!!!
/faceplants at the memories of 6+ hour 40mans
Beron
Dec 1 2009, 07:15 AM
Race change, gender change, and faction changem from what I understand. And every single person wants you to sue addons for this or that. Addons take half the fun out of it, for me. Not that I can figure them out. My guild had me download one called Bidder, for bidding on loot, and I can't get the darn thing to work anyway, so...
BIG EDIT TIME:
Do any of you have a clue, about what the big deal is with killing Hogger? o0; It's really starting to bug me. XD <,<
Shnezz
Dec 2 2009, 08:09 PM
Killing hogger is tradition! And fun.
Get a lot, and I mean a LOT of people to make new level ones, and rush him. See how far you get.
euology
Dec 2 2009, 08:19 PM
Because 40 lvl 1's vrs hogger is just like a real raid. Oh but it has to be gnome lvl 1's... can't have any heals or that's just cheats.
Venine
Dec 2 2009, 11:53 PM
Till Cataclysm & the lil buggers all role Priests.
But, since I'm lazy & haven't read through in a while; am I the only one irritated at how much they're simplyfing the game come Cataclysm? I'm all for Hunters using Focus not Mana as well, we're not exactly casters, but everything else in regards to stats just seems pointless.
That said, recent footage of Goblin & Worgen starting areas seems good and the Worgen transformation rocks, a lot. Seriously considering rolling one, only unsure which class to roll.
That aside, I really don't want Icecrown to come out. Ever. I'm all for raiding it, but the mere thought of Arthas finally being killed off.. *sighs* Not a good one. I love Arthas, by far one of the most intriguing and admirable, brilliant VG characters of recent years, if not all time. Then Blizzard decide to kill him off... unless they pull a Muradin effect somehow then yeah... I might just shed tears the day I see "World 1st; '...' defeats Arthas."
Beron
Dec 3 2009, 05:32 AM
Worgen druid, ftw. I also plan on rolling a troll druid. Actually, Im' debating a worgen rogue, because of the native sprint ability.
I got one better for you, then. An all elvel one, all gnome, priest raid on Hogger. Double squishies.
They are simplifying the game way too much, in a great many respects. There are still challenges, though. I have one of my rogues doing the shadowcraft armor upgrade quest chain. That's quite a challenge, even when you're level 80. Very fwe peopel bother learning to smelt dark iron ore, any mroe. My warrior learned (had all these ores), and eight to one bar? Yowza! But it got her to 300 minin, smelting those suckers. Trying to do the quest to learn how to smelt it when everyone jsut wants to fight the ghosties? Well, that makes it more of a challenge, too.
the Lurker Below, for the fishing? I so want to kill that sucker. We had a group going for the fsihing achievement, and he one shotted all of us, four times over, because four of the five of us went for the fsihing achievement. The fifth never picked up fishing. Raid Instance, fo course. Never been in there before. Nasty fish. Xp Bring a priest so your feet don't touch the water. Levitate, ftw!
At least, with the Brewfest regalia substitured for my regular armor, I saved a bit on my armor repair bill.
Oh, yea. As for Arthas dying, and actually staying dead? Can anybody say Black Knight? Or Hogger? I heard them say something about making Hogger into a level 80 boss. THey may have been joking: but then, again...
euology
Dec 3 2009, 01:17 PM
some of those reasons are why I think I'm done with wow.
There's absolutely no need for player skill in the game anymore. Any group of 10 idiots can clear any content now. Tho I suppose that's what blizz wanted, but for those players with actual skills it takes all the challenge out of the game. Sure there's hardmodes, but honestly once you hit a certain lvl of gear it's just execution at that point.
I don't know if I'll be going back to wow. Cataclysm expansion or not... guess I'm still to much of a classic gamer heh... the challenge is what makes it fun, not catering to every joe jerk off who refuses to work hard and become good at something to get and achieve awesome things. I don't want to play a game where I don't have to weigh and judge every piece of equipment that drops, to select which piece best compliments and enhances what I already have. I like sitting down and figuring out the math. It makes me a better player than the person who rolls for everything with SP on it but has no hit because they FAIL and don't know what their hit cap is.
meh.. done.
narcaleptic_fox
Dec 3 2009, 01:39 PM
heh you know i know how you feel, wow has always been a bit annoying for me, as i never rolled a healer and havent really enjoyed anything in the game except healing.
Im trying to rectify this but f**king hell its hard to level now, im too used to being an 80 destro lock melting everything in my path.
But holyjabba will get to 80, and he will be the best holypriest in the world! THE WORLD I SAY, or rather, the server... no more than liekly he will stink but i dont care
Shnezz
Dec 3 2009, 02:05 PM
In response to death of Arthas, I bet something happens where he gets beaten and escapes. At least I hope so. We've seen how much people care about Illidan after they beat his face in...
Beron
Dec 3 2009, 04:08 PM
Funny thing, stats. My DK, not rolling on anything, but as a quest reward, chose a leather piece for head armor, over what she had equipped, because it had better stats. That's the same reason my rogue stuck with the elemental armor set (uber 70s set) for the longest time, because the stat bonuses from the set were that awesome.
if WoW incorporates too many popular addons that Joe Schmo from Idaho insists upon, I may eventualyl leave the game as well. Addons bug the H3ll out of me.
Shnezz
Dec 4 2009, 01:44 PM
I hate the quest-helper addons the most. I had a friend show me one once, and it literally had a big green arrow that pointed to the objectives.
Maybe I'm different, but I thought exploring and trying to beat a quest without someone holding your hand is the way to have fun.
Zoran
Dec 5 2009, 05:13 PM
QUOTE (Shnezz @ Dec 4 2009, 07:44 AM)

I hate the quest-helper addons the most. I had a friend show me one once, and it literally had a big green arrow that pointed to the objectives.
Maybe I'm different, but I thought exploring and trying to beat a quest without someone holding your hand is the way to have fun.
Then don't use the feature/addon.
If you don't like something, don't do it. But if you must, make the best out of it.
Beron
Dec 6 2009, 01:16 AM
QUOTE (Shnezz @ Dec 4 2009, 08:44 AM)

I hate the quest-helper addons the most. I had a friend show me one once, and it literally had a big green arrow that pointed to the objectives.
Maybe I'm different, but I thought exploring and trying to beat a quest without someone holding your hand is the way to have fun.
Hear, hear! Maybe that's why I'm getting so skittish about a lot of guilds too. They seem to insist on addons for every little thing. What's the fun in that? We're playing WoW here, not Barbie
TM dolls.
Rin Seiko
Dec 9 2009, 12:54 AM
Level 80 Belf fire mage. For the win.
Casual WoW is for the loose... D:
Blue
Dec 9 2009, 02:42 AM
New patch blows, too many people in the new instances.
Can't even do Ulduar.
Rin Seiko
Dec 9 2009, 04:47 AM
No kidding. And once again Palis got buffed. Not nerfed. AGAIN. Blizzard is killing WoW. At this rate, all the oldies will cave and stop playing it...
The up side to the patch is I got frickin' buffed...
Beron
Dec 9 2009, 07:06 AM
I had to roll a random DK on the one and only server that FINALLY managed to be up for awhile. Did manage ot start on a couple of occupations, but deleted Angora when my servers came back online. So many alts, so little time (And I rather like arcane for my mage Arrandia, thanks. Magic missiles, FTW!)
When I realized that al lthe former patchwork flesh dudes, er, whatever they caleld them again, had been replacedby by the Kor'kron guys for my random DK, well, that was a bit of a shocker. Varimathras was nowhere to be seen in the RQ. the quests he gave out are now being given out by an officer of the Kok'ron. Oh, and two new flight paths, at the Bulwark and at the Thorondil River, just before the bridge on the road fro mthe Bulwark and heading towards Corrin's.
Rin Seiko
Dec 9 2009, 01:58 PM
I wouldn't suggest Arcane. It takes the least amount of skill, and it's boring as hell in my opinion. If you MUST have a high DPS, I suppose it isn't bad. Well actually its the best DPS, but the stupidest tree I think...
Then again, you had a death knight... :|
Anyone here actually play on RP servers?
Venine
Dec 9 2009, 05:21 PM
28 Days untill the new bosses are unlocked, so enjoy farm-mode people.
The trailer was a let down, I like to think compared to previous content trailers. Hardly any Arthas' interaction and even then, it just reminded me of the fail of a voice actor that they chose, as well as the change to his father, though I could be wrong there.
Either way, /meh. Money's on Arthas dead within 4 days of him being released, hard mode.. seeing as he doesn't have a time limit like Algalon, I give it a week, tops.