Faction changes are out, and I for one am going to be going Horde Side, my Druid will most likely be the first to go Horde side, then my Paladin. Or maybe my Paladin first, I dunno yet. I've really wanted to go horde side mainly due to One) I have a 75 UD mage that needs company. Two) I have a brother and some other friends playing on Horde side on my server. Three) I was a Hordie at first and wish to be one again.

And I finally get to make sense when I say this.
Lok' Tar Ogar my brothers, for Victory or Death. For-The-Mother-Fuckin'-Horde.

Why did you choose the alliance over the horde when you friends plays horde?
And why did you change faction?
And what server do you play on?

1) They weren't on my server at the time, but when they did hop over they loved horde too much to play Alliance, plus I already had some Horde characters to play with them, but the hassle of not having a 80's resources is a hassle.

2) Family, Friends, Better atmosphere.

3) Sisters of Elune


And I have a complaint, my account was merged to the battle.net thingy today. No big deal, the big deal now is that I got no notification on what the fuck my b.net account is. So if its automated, they didn't tell me crap. If someone else did it, Its go time.

Update: I was hacked, time to punch someone in the face.

odd....

Well the Bnet login will be an email. No clue whether it used the one attached to your wow or the hacker used there own.

Am I the only one just a little miffed by this whole expansion talk when they haven't even released gorram Arthas into the game yet?

They'll release him before coming out with the expansion, or so I understand it.

I'd like to point out that we knew Arthas was going to follow Illidan BEFORE BC was ever released, so this isn't unsual (and it lets you know what's coming. Also what to look forward to )

Regular stuff updates: Guild progress continues at a slow pace. We still can't beat down the 6 champions in 10 Man TOC, and it's frustrating the crap out of me. We made an attempt at 25 man TOC because, well, why not. This involved 13 guild members and 12 pugs, with a hell of a lot of instructions, random guess work, etc. And it wasn't as ugly as it should be. So I'm fairly sure at this piont that TOC is easier by a long shot with 25 people rather then 10 people. The Champions fight you can actually have people focusing on CC and still have the DPS to focus down targets, and it's much less complicated. This is not the case with 10 man.

Suffice to say, I feel 10 Man TOC is MUCH harder then 25 man TOC. It requires a lot more handling, a lot more coordination, and yes, the hp and damage is increased, but it's not that hard. Nice thing is that 25 man is now manageable with Pugs, so the impossibility of pugging that Ulduar was is no longer the case.

Other stuff I'm working on - Rep grinds (Ok, I know someone's working on the Insane rep achievement, or whatever that is. I can't imagine doing that. It would seriously break my mind >.< Although I'd like to see something done with the Explorers League and the Frostborn. These guys have faction, but with no purpose behind it >.< Really! Why? And why do I feel like I need to get it done...

How's everyone else faring.

I've debated the "Insane" achievement, and I've heard there's a way to grind it without killing goblins, so I may want to look into that. I kind of like the little green guys, they're silly.

What's been driving me bonkers is the Hydraxian Water Lords rep. Fro the longest time, killing some stuff in, where is it, Burning Steppes or whatever (near BRD), I kept getting a little rep with them, but had NO FREAKING IDEA who they were. I happened to stumble across them while taking the scenic route in Aszhara on another quest chain. Like the furry rep, there's only a couple of quests, and then it seems to be a grind. A lot of that's okay, actually, since the elementals drop stuff you can use in many occupations; but still... heh. I'm still figuring out a lot of these rep things. As it is, I've been wondering if there's a waay to switch between Scryers and Aldor. I have a couple of toons exhausted with Scryers, and I ended up wondering about that. There are also some tailoring/lw/ BS plans that are exclusive to either faction, and BoP.

Of course, most everything else is on hold right now as I am working to gt the raptor mount. I've finally started working on my old mains, who ended up on a different server, back when they hd the free character transfers. I'd only transferred one (my shaman) to make room for my DK, but ended up transferring my (then-msxed and 70) mains because my friend and partner transferred his rogue there, and my co-mains (rogue and mage, sisters for purposes of RP, not that I've done much with that except have it as a general idea in mind) both have this "thing" going with him, so they both transferred as well. Anyway, I'm sending my two level 70+ rogues (76 and currently 74) through the dailis for the raptor mount. My hunter alrteady went through her set. I figured slow, not doing all of them at once, tempting though it may be. I've debated starting my Alliance toon on the Alliance version fo the faction mount thing, just to compare the two. I heard that the Horde have an easier time of it, but I want to see for myself. Also, I've still been curious about that Alliance version of the Battle for Undercity and the Wrathgate thing.

I'm afraid I'm having a good laugh over a guildie's attempts to get the turtle mount so far. Not for the frustration of not getting it and raising your fishing level doing so from zero to 450, but because he's complaining so much about it in guild chat, that, well... lol. But I like to fish, and I like to cook the fish, because I love the buffs. Also, you never quite know what you'll fish up.

Character: Lv 80 Destro/Demon dual-spec'd Human Warlock on Sen'jin. And I love it.

Oh and a soon-to-be 80 Draenei Paladin tank, dual-spec'd DPS.


They talked about the Wrath expansion a couple months before Sunwell was released (only because BT was on farm...heh)

Anyways, they're going to release Arthas in patch 3.3, announced in Blizzcon. Should give us 3-4 months before Cataclysm beta starts, at least. And you know Beta is going to be long because of the whole revamp deal. That's a lot of testing.

Worgen Rogue FTW!

*Backstab kill cast* *pant chuckle*

I got to test Cataclysm a bit at PAX. Played a Goblin. Watched others playing worgen. It was a blast.

Lucky bastard. How were the Gobby racials?

Also, I just farmed full Tattered Dreadmist BoA for my human priest, but the moment Cataclysm comes out.... Worgen Warlock bebe.

So far, I've had four guildies switch to the horde. Bastards that they are.

Well, when Wintergrasp happened last night, we didn't just get beaten, we were rolled. Yes, Horde has always had a significant advantage in my BG, and I realize with the faction changes, anyone unhappy with the crappiness of Alliance BG's is likely to switch to Horde and reap the rewards. Unfortunately, this leads us to be soundly beaten at every turn, which will only encourage more people to join the horde.

I have a strong suspicion that in Battle Groups that favor one side or the other, you're going to see the Superior side just get more and more people, which will just ruin PvP >.< At least Wintergrasp (Tenacity is a useless buff imo).

Until a Tenacity of 4 or great means stun/silence immunity... my feelings is the ability to change faction will lead to less and less fairness in PvP for WOW.

Well, Faction Changes will hopefully make some realms more balanced.

Magtheridon Eu has always been roughly 97% Horde, 3% Alliance and those are the stats from Blizzard. Fact it's a PvP Realm doesn't help, not to mention it homed Nihilum & now Ensidia so half the people on the Realm are probably fanboys trying to get in.

I like the idea of Faction Change, but Race Changes is just... *sigh* that, and I dislike half the new classes. The only ones that make real sense to me currently are Dwarf Shaman & Troll Druid, other than that.. just crazy.

Still, looking forward to the reveal of Icecrown, particularly if they do a video similiar to the one they did for Ulduar.

Finally we're back to raiding!

We have formed an alliance with another guild and we run 25mans with them on Wed and Sun and do our own 10mans (with them mixed in sometimes) on Mon, Thur and Sat. It might sound like alot but it's not really.

25man ToC - got the champions down finally. What a pain in the balls that fight can be. Luck was on our side somewhat tho, we had the tree and the boomkin so we just kept the tree cc'd forever and he was the last to die.

Think our kill order was Resto Shaman, Rogue, Lock, Warrior, DK, Shadow Priest, Holy Pally, Hunter then the Resto Druid. We started the fight with an abundance of CC and we pulled the shaman away from the group so we could burn him down. But post that intial CC fest we only kept continual CC rotations on the Resto Druid, the rest of the fight was laced with random fear bombs, lots of kitting and CC's randomly on whatever we wern't focusing down.

As primary DPS I assisted with Dispels on whatever we were burning down, alot of my time was specifically on dispelling the Main Target, between dotting and dps.

Heal assigns were organized for once, had a portion of healers specifically for healing whoever was being focused fired upon and had another part on dispels / cleansing (which is nearly a full time job) and spot heals.

omg >< i miss wow, i moved back to md from colorado and i had internet while in CO, now i'm without...

i miss my drood, Steakonplate (horde obviously).. She's awsome thats all there is to it. lvl 80 Resto, or did i leave as boom chicken? i can't remember, anyways
i read this thread and makes me miss my guild (who disbanded shortly after a merg) Though i wasn't always horde, i played a few years starting the game alliance, and have a lvl 70ish Huntard Nicknamed Rhi-rhi (should make another called Dee-dee-dee)i want to make into a troll..
but alas, due to a non-gameing bf... it seems i can only read posts of the game and dream of how the expantion will be.
So due to a long dry spell of not being on Wow I know i will break down and buy the expantion even if i may not be able to play.. Heh.

Steak... your sig = epic!

What? What is it? is the Medow on fire??

http://www.charlietheunicorn.org/

Thread Derailment complete.

ty ty -bow- i <3 Charlie and his missing kidney, i have yet to see the other two they did but one day....one day i shall see them

I don't have any problem with the Goblins (it's about time the Horde gets a mini-ganking race to match the Gnomes) but the Worgen seems kind of stupid.

I wondered about the worgen being on the Ally side, myself; but I'll wait until it comes out. A few people have played them at displays or somesuch, and they don't sound too, too bad.

It's not stupid. The Worgen are actually the nation of Kul'danis which locked itself off to hide from the scourge and deal with what was happening in their lands. They were human, they just changed.

I know the lore behind it I just think its a needless stretch. The nation of Gilneas was pretty much forgotten by Blizzard until recently. I think they built the Greymane wall before the Scourge actually, they were isolationist from the end of the Second War on. In a nutshell they said "screw you guys, we're walling ourselves in!" Their "tragic backstory" is just too similar to the Forsaken for my tastes. Goblins on the other hand have had ties to the Horde going back to WCII when they were members of it. I understand completely why the Worgen are joining the Alliance, to escape extermination by the Forsaken and their apparently batshit insane Queen (yes because all undead are evil according to Blizzard now). I just don't really think they fit well.

QUOTE (Kata Samoes @ Sep 8 2009, 04:36 PM)

They talked about the Wrath expansion a couple months before Sunwell was released (only because BT was on farm...heh)

Anyways, they're going to release Arthas in patch 3.3, announced in Blizzcon. Should give us 3-4 months before Cataclysm beta starts, at least. And you know Beta is going to be long because of the whole revamp deal. That's a lot of testing.

Yeah, but if I remember correctly. Sunwell wasn't exactly part of the planned TBC release. They added it in after to give higher end guilds something to do while waiting for the Wrath to come around.


As right now, Arthas was obviously part of this current expansion and not an addition to it.


I guess there isn't much difference, but whatever. I guess I'm a little anal about it because I can't play the game anymore (yet again).




Also, Goblins and Worgen playable??? I guess it's about time we can start playing a goblin. sheesh. (lol)

Yeah the Horde needs a small race, god knows the existing Horde races while intimidating (except blood elves and to a lesser extent forsaken) make excellent targets.

QUOTE (Jonath @ Sep 12 2009, 08:56 PM)

Yeah the Horde needs a small race, god knows the existing Horde races while intimidating (except blood elves and to a lesser extent forsaken) make excellent targets.

Indeed.


So that would make Worgen part of the Alliance. That doesn't seem right... :- /

World of Worgencraft!

*runs*

QUOTE (Beron @ Sep 13 2009, 01:21 AM)

World of Worgencraft!

*runs*

*rolleyes*

I agree with the run idea, when Cata hits the world is going to become so overcrowded with Worgen it won't even be slightly funny.

It'll just be like when we had DKs.

I won't have a worgen. Just like I don't have a dwarf.

It's always been the intention of the Forsaken to seek revenge on everyone. They were always evil, they were just blended with the Horde because they needed a 4th race for WoW.

At the same time, we know that not all Forsaken are the same, or else there would not have been so many Forsaken refugees at Orgrimmar before the Battle for UC.

I'm looking forward to Cataclysm, just to see if they finally let the demons break throuh in that little cinematic at the Stairs of Destiny. Sometimes they look like they've broken through, only...they don't appear on the other side of the Dark Portal.

I've been playing WoW for 1 year, 9 months. I have 3 lvl 80s:
Lvl 80 Undead holy priest
Lvl 80 Tauren feral druid
Lvl 80 Blood elf unholy deathknight

For the horde!!

I think I will roll a Worgen, simply out of curiosity with the race and starter zone. Which means I'll also make a Goblin (Hordes answer to gnomes )

That's precisely why I have reserved spots and names for a worgen and a rogue toon: curiosity. I am so looking forward to the new secondary occupation, as well.

+>
Forsaken level 80 shadow priest
Blood Elf Level 80 holy priest
Troll level 80 DK
Two level 77 BElf rogues, my old main, who ended up on SoE, and my "new" rogue, on my home server. They'll be 80s by next week (fingers crossed).

Actually, the one on SoE was a co-main with my mage. Hey, somebody had to make the bags.

They already broke through once, that's how BC started. Remember how that turned out for the Demons?

Actually, I don't. I wasn't a high enough level to be in that battle, at that time.

No matter how many times Blizzard tells us what a terrifying enemy the Burning Legion is, everytime they've tried something they've gotten owned spectacularly. They're like Chaos from WH40K, it's hard to take them seriously.

Because, like Chaos from WH40k, the writers as a whole are shit at making something seem threatening.

They burst onto the scene with an absurd goal that everybody knows they're not going to accomplish (destroy all life on Azeroth, sack Terra) and they get beaten back. It's not even a little bit tense because you know that goal would tip the scales too far one way. They should set less obvious goals. Maybe the Burning Legion is only after a single artifact or powerful figure. Maybe getting that figure weakens whatever it is keeping them out of the planet. Maybe the players don't get to find that out until it's near the end. Maybe instead of being beaten back, they get beaten sideways - you don't get the top dogs in the game but the good guys lose a few strong players and the bad guys get a lot of people in the back door.

Just because everyone knows that the game won't end doesn't mean you can't have suspense. Except in WH40k. Then, it always gets worse.

My fear is that the final expansion is going to entail the players hopping from BL-held planet to BL-held planet stomping the Demons one battle at a time and in the end Sargeras will just be farmed for whatever artifact he drops.

Maybe bliz will surprise us all and in the end we don't win. They close the game out on a very spectacular death note.

... ZOMG! Genius! So you start the last expansion with an invasion by Sargeras, and the demons and titans are lining up, and the towns themselves are under heavy assault (hell, even take out Stormwind or something, force the alliance and Horde to be in the same city and banded together), kill off several leaders, and have dungeons where you finish and you find out you've helped them. There's so much they could do, and they could make you feel absolutely desperate... it's genius!

Best idea ever. They need to work on this.

Yes, its sort of what the cataclysm is doing, but continue with it. We need to get our ass handed to us and be fighting for our lives.

or a finalized dungeon where at the end where Varian is captured, and you're trying to rescue him, beat the last boss, but he pulls something astonishing, and Thrall rushes in, and they're all killed, and you're barely survive a beaten and sad raid (but you got lootz <.<)

*ponders*

They've already made it clear the have no problem killing off the protectors of the world. The Aspects. With Malygos dead arcane magic should be weakening. Holds on once vital wards and bounderies will crumble, the Emerald Dream will probably be the next big thing where we learn about how deep the corruption is. I think they really should kill wow in the end. They shouldn't let it linger on like other MMO's to die that slow horrid death that EQ and so many other's perished to.

They should kill wow flat out, and they should do it themselves via story and a cut / end scene of some epic ass animation. I could be happy wrapping up wow with that and jumping in with my guilldies into whatever MMO lay beyond it. Mebe starcraft... mmmm that could be fun!!!

Blizzard is already working on another mmo, with its release maybe we shall see the death of WOW?

So you're saying you can actually play through an ending? <.< Or you reach an ending at the end of the raid, and there's an epic movie that plays, and you can continue playing? *ponders*

Should make another war relief thing so we can have more fun world events.... AQ gates was the most fun i had playing wow.

Why would they end it? Even if 98% of the userbase left, they would just scale down the staff, combine realms and keep running at a profit. They could essentially keep the game going forever if they wanted. Other dimensions/worlds are an accepted fact in the canon and they can always hire more people to free up creative/technical staff to work on other games.

There are still around 100 people playing Warcraft II on Battlenet at any given time in America alone, that's not factoring in Europe and Asia. And WCII is about ten years old now.

Battlenet is still going strong indeed. Some guildies and I sometmes bust out Diablo for multiplayer or WCII and go slap each other. Tis Fun


I'm pretty sure Bliz won't just end it tho, as much as I'd love to see that on some level (or at least them killing off Azeroth like in story terms they did with Outlands). They'll probably make it a a progressional story indefinately. /shrug

We'll see


On a site note - me as the unofficial officer of the guild is officially an officer. I've been managing NK's website and PR for years now, but with the recent guild burn-out, our GM needed more folks to step up to actual officer status. So whoo, I have /o chat again!!

To an extent they are killing off Azeroth with Cataclysm. It's not so much killing-off as much as it is seriously beating Azeroth into a bloody pulp so that even it's mother won't recognize it.

Oh I know. But I want more. I want all races of azeroth scattered across the universe because Azeroth indeed fell to the might of the Burning Legion.