Shattrath, the city of lag.

Fun, with Eagle Eye.

Yeah, I finally dropped my account. I just couldn't take the nerfing anymore. They just destroyed their own game.

Apparently quite a large number of people have been banned on the euro servers for uses of gliders etc, LOTS of complaints and whinging on the forums at the moment.

I play a lot on Lightbringer, alliance side. Its sad that the alliance in my battlegroup have a hard time understanding the basic gist of the battlegrounds.

Mineshaft - 70 Dwarf Hunter
Mcmallet - 69 Human Paladin
Thunderkeg - 44 Dwarf Warrior
Tazmaniac - 19 Gnome Warrior (Lowbie PvP)

Tazmaniac will be gone once Lich King comes out, then I'll have 10 useful alliance characters on Lightbringer.

I feel so lonely. Am I the only person on these forums who plays on Durotan?

I enjoy the name that we have recieved... 'Durotards'.

I havent been keeping up with the times, I had no idea that so many servers have conquered BT by now, and I'm laughing my socks off when I'm thinking about the guild that ran SWP with a fuggin rogue tank, gets me every time. He had near 100% dodge rating, and afterwards he even ran Gruuls with 5 others and found out he had thirty growth cycles and reverted back to regular size after those xD, took them 10 mins...

I don't keep up with what reputations different servers have but I remember bitching about an AV once and at least ten people said something to the effect of, "Oh look. He's from Blackrock. What a surprise."

My battle group is ALWAYS complaining, you know we have a buncha noobs when we have over 5 ppl consistantly on AFK duty, and a few punks with the lowest dps done, or hp healed callin this battlegroup's horde a load of noobs "Damn, I'm so selling this account on Ebay... GET OFF THE DAMN ROAD NOOBS!!!"

Have to admit, we only lose because horde is still slightly outnumbered, missing nine or so members at the beginning at any given AV. I PVP anymore, I am still a keyboard turner, and I am affected by stuns more than most ppl, can't land a spell on the goddamn roge or w/e....

On an AV weekend, we'll get fifteen AFKs on Alliance side.

I think Horde's usually about five less than us.

I'm a PvPer who was talked into creating a character on a raid-oriented server. I'm intending to create a PvP guild so I can round up the decent players on my server. Its kind of pathetic that people think that with 200 reinforcements left on either side, that the best route to take is to rush past the 40 horde and try to kill Drek.

Level 60 Gnome Rogue, Level 60 Undead Rogue, and a bunch of level 20-40's which I always considered the most fun level ranges to play. I got bored and quit before the expansion was released.

Best moments, -

Shutting up a mage who said soloing Devilsaurs as a lvl 60 rogue was impossible, and soloing Strashaz Naga(lvl 60-61 elites) at lvl 60 quick enough to keep ahead of the respawn as a rogue was impossible. No full epic gear at the time.

Teaming with another rogue to complete Ragefire Chasm(Lvl 15), The Wailing Caverns(Lvl 20), Blackfathom Depths(Lvl 22-24, requires full points in stealth skills to avoid detection sneaking to the end), and Razorfen Kraul(Level 30, requires three rogues to take down the last boss) without the need for a full party.

Soloing Death Speaker Jargba(Level 30 Elite), and his two guards in Razorfen Kraul as a level 30 rogue after clearing the entire instance up to that point(tough fight but good practice on how to deal with crowds of elites).

Teaming with another rogue to milk Incendius for Aces of Elementals(2 an hour, 1 an hour after the instance nerf) for resale on the auction house at 500 gold a pop when decks were first introduced.

Stealthing into Blackrock Depths to collect Dark Iron Ale Mugs from the tavern for resale at the faire for 2 gold each so people could get an Unhatched Jubling Egg, and the resulting pet when the faire was brand new. Made over 80 gold in less than half an hour.

Going to war with the goblin towns to get my Bloodsail Admiral Hat, and use the friendly status with the Bloodsailers to help me kill people in PvP. Similar to using the furbolg factions to help kill someone that's chasing you into Winterspring.

Dropping off zeppelins in paratrooper fashion with parachute cloaks in order to begin a raid on an orc town.

Continually testing myself to see what I could solo that was currently deemed impossible according to popular opinion.

Switching my focus from the 40 man raid scene to helping people through instances instead using my full epic gear and crowd control skills.

Earning numerous connections on materials, rare enchants, etc because I dedicated so much of my time to helping low levels who went on to become specialized in stuff I needed(like dual Ebon Hand maces as part of my proc set. I had went mace specialization before the nerf occurred making the effect resistable.).

Ten rogue raids on Lower Blackrock Spire, juggling aggro between us to create a bulk hp pool.

/points to sigs

Ermm... have 70 resto shaman, 70 MM hunter.. 45 shadow priest.. I've been playing for about three years and it's all my brother's fault. When someone comes home stoned at 3 in the morning, gives you a box with WoW in it for your birthday.. [which was three months previous to that..] and goes "I hear this is good. It was shiny. Here." You've kind of got to give it a try.

Best moments.. Falling asleep during BWL - Razorgore fight.. and wiping the whole raid. That was hilarious. Especially since I was supposed to be kiting. Needless to say, I got shit for months over that.

Getting bored with a PUG that a guildie and I were running Scholo with and talking to every single person in the room, therefore starting off a massive shitfight.

Trying not to die a horrible, horrible death in ZA and getting bear boss down that last 2 percent. And doing it. But dying a horrible, horrible death anyway.

Getting smacked out by hugbot before the fight's even started. [curator = hugbot].

Being the first one - EVERY SINGLE TIME - to get nuked by a whelp in Onyxia's lair. A freaking whelp.

Corrupting my best friend and boyfriend and making them play WoW And scaring the gaming boys at EB by being a relatively normal female who plays Warcraft. That's alot of fun.

Taking it in shifts with my brother and his epic, shiny undead rogue to get to High Warlord in the old pvp system in two weeks from no rank at all. Which is now the main reason I dont PVP anymore - when you sit there grinding honour for eight hours straight, going to sleep, then doing it all over again every day for two weeks.. It kind of kills your love for the battlegrounds.

Its one of my mates faults that I started! I haven't introduced one of the girls I lived with last year, and will be next year, to it as, although I know she'd like it, she'd spend way to long on it! Thankfully she thinks the same so although she's interesed in what i'm doing (and I've been told I gesticulate a lot when I'm gaming which I can imagine would be amusing) she's happy that I'm not shutting her out of anything, so all is good.

I couldn't do that! Longest I've done bgs for was 5 hours then I didn't go in them for 3 days! normally I do around an hour an evening in bgs, prefer the pve content to be honest.

Only the one lvl 70, Human warrior by the name of Hirad, I like to tank

Im back!

I have a level 70 huntard *points to siggy*, a level 62 warrior, a 45 rogue, a 36 mage, a 33 shaman, a 28 priest, a 23 huntard, a 24 pally, a 19 godtwink rogue, and a few random splashes of -10 chars that I delete randomly.. Hah!

I play a 70 Human Rogue and a 70 Gnome warlock on EU-TVC... although I don't tend to play a great deal.

From what I hear about Glider, is that is *was* supposed to be 'untracable'. Have they cracked down on the US servers yet? (I have friends who have glided before, I don't myself.)
Any info would be nice

Been farming AV for probably close to 15 hours straight now on my resto druid, but I probably wont be bging again for weeks after I finish getting the honor I need, 2k to go.. queue's are up to 10 minutes now, bg's suck at night.

I'm in quite a predicament myself.

While I'd like to see the 25-man content, I don't have time to be "hardcore" nor am I interested in running raids with elitist jerks. I need a casual-hardcore raidgroup...

The guild I happened upon joining would probably be perfect for you, we're not ready to run 25-mans yet but you'd certainly get geared up well enough with us to be able to run them when we are ready. I joined a week ago and already upgraded over half my gear, everyone's kind and laid back easy going, help each other out in and out of raids with getting geared and helping provide raid elixirs and food.

I don't really raid hardcore either and wouldn't be able to take being in a guild full of assholes that do for themselves before doing for others, my time in my guild I've seen many selfless acts of generosity, people passing up items to help undergeared members catch up and actually taking the time to teach everyone how to down bosses and work our way through raid content rather then expecting everyone to know what to do and bitching when you dont get it right.

Which shows Blizzard knows their business.

In the expansion coming, all 25 man raids have a 10-man mode (like the Normal/Heroic dungeons) that has its own lock-out. Meaning you can do the same instance twice. The 25 man is harder and has better loot but for those who'd like to see content but can't get that many raiders together, Blizzard is fixing your problem.

I was lucky. I'm in a guild who's currently working on Felmyst (we'll probably get him next week, there is a lot of stuff stealing some of our crucial main raiders) and dramas are surprisingly low. Hell, we don't even have a DKP system anymore. We pretty much decide all loot in a general discussion /rand as we go.

Plus, they're okay with taking people/alts through Hyjal and BT so long as they don't have too many people who haven't done it before or aren't geared enough.

Doesn't solve the problem that I wish to see TBC 25-mans.

At least not in the way I'd like to see it.

Yeah, a lot of people feel the same way about Naxx.

Which is a bit worse, really, because where you'll be able to go back and see the old 25 mans, Naxx is being retooled and the old Naxx destroyed.

Good thing I have seen the good old Naxx. And died a lot in it.

I'm in <Casual> a world top 100 guild. We raid very few nights per week, stop raiding old content quickly to achieve this, and never raid more than a few hours per night. There've been nights where after an hour of wiping the RL said "we're not wasting our time if ppl aren't on their game. go home." .. and we did. There were weeks we'd raid 2 nights per week.

So we get to be in the very top end of progression while not raiding insane amounts like the guilds at our heels.

So it is doable.. it's just a very rare thing to find. And ya, I agree the introduction of 10 mannable versions of 25 man raids will help more people get to be casual hardcore-ers.

I know. I haven't found it yet. Especially not now with people goin on vacation and whatnot.

Edit: Just as I start complainin'...got into a raidgroup, did some Gruul's progression and I'm looking forward to working with these guys.

Lets see, best moments...

On my birthday, people actually listened to me in AV, and we won because of it.

And, the only other one that pops into mind is watching my pet solo a healadin in arenas.

He couldn't have been that great then. A guildie paladin actually ran a hunter out of arrows when it was just them two left in the arena.

To be fair it was over a year ago before -cost was nerfed to 50% and hunters were buffed (yet again).

On normal World of Warcraft:

Level 70 protection warrior.
Level 70 Feral Druid.
Level 70 Demon Lock
Level 43 Enhance Shaman.

WoWzers Private Server: (Which I am an Admin on)

Level 70 Demon Hunter ( I made the class myself using some of the Illidan spells along with others.)

Kas-WoW private server:

Level 72 sub Rogue


WoWblaze:

Level 43 destro warlock.

Chaos Crusade Private Server:

Level 8 warlock.

Heheh, he was doing just fine. I kept using viper sting, and using downranked scorpid stings so he would waste mana with cleanse. He couldn't out-dps my mend pet and I didn't do much to help with arrows. It might of been after the -cost nerf and hunter buff.

A few days ago I got a nightmarish setup on the "arena" event in Magister's Heroic. It was rogue, lock, shammy, fury warr plus the ever-present priestess. Sheep pull on shammy ofc, but he manages to resist, immediately drops a WF totem and we're toast as the rogue and the warr make short work of us. *yech* And since it was late and we were tired, then we decided to call it.

All the happier I was then when I came next time and even won my trinket. Too bad Kael refused to drop my offhand too

I love the MgT arena, its fun.

I hate it. Because I'm essentially going up against 5 pre-programmed ridiculously overgeared overbuffed arena opponents.

I mean, I wish MY priest could toss heals like that...

If I want Arena, I'll do Arena. It shouldn't be forced on people who do PvE.

Thats exactly the reason I like it. Plus, Warlocks are amazingly useful in it. I'm hoping for more unpredicatble PvE bosses in Lich King.

The whole instance is pretty easy, we generally go in there with a prot/ret pally, enhance shaman, rogue, ms war, and random healer. Just gotta out dps the third boss group and use the pally/shaman as back up healing, and focus fire the healer/priestess down.

umm new to the forums and i play too much wow, 70 sham/rogue/druid/spriest on horde side of blackrock. My current main is my priest he breaks 1650+ shadow damage raid buffed and trinketed. My guilds working on bt atm.

The trouble is that they're trying to make instances more friendly to off-specs.

The problem is that something like the arena event screws some of us even more than we used to get screwed. Enhancement Shamans can't heal well and we have no cc or counter-cc. Add to that we aren't the highest tier damage dealers - we'll never match an equivalent rogue - and suddenly we're down the bottom of the list in terms of desirability.

come on your from blackrock also, you know people would just tell you gtfo blr is full =p

I'm a total PVP slut. Got a 70 priest and a 70 mage. The priest got as far as Marshal rank under the old PVP system, and since I keep weird and antisocial hours, I continue to do more PVP than anything else in the game.

If I could be so bold as to offer a mild rebuke to our erudite and sexy administratrix: Topping the damage charts in BGs is useless. I am far more impressed by your declared intent of zooming in on the healers - that shows sound strategic thinking. But please, for yer own credibility, don't mention the damage charts. I've found that most people who note these things and strive for them are poor PVPers - exasperatingly so since they are usually barking at everyone else for being a NOOB while prancing about killing shit where it does the least good. BGs are about objectives and team play. Get the flag, keep the flag, don't kill but control, (sap, sheep, fear, etc), protect the flag carrier, and communicate with your teammates. Actual damage is low on the list.

When it comes to PvP, it seems to me like we people from RP realms do best. Seems everyone else is underestimating us "Hahaha are those RP'ers serious?" and while they're ROFL'ing they find my blade in their backs.

A propos, damage charts, in PvE I often top them. Which is funny as sometimes other rogues with gear similar to mine, also specc/talents similar to mine have on average ~150+ less DPS than me on encounters. Just goes to show what careful cooldown management, and best gems/enchants one can get can do, it seems.

I'm from Shadow Council, not Blackrock.


I stab/bolt/arrow the RPers...

14, B.E. Warlock on the Baelgun server. Ignore the level on my siggy, I got confused with my hunter and warlock and put down the hunter level but I'm too lazy to change it and I'll get there soon enough. My brother is a crazy leveler so he's in the 50 ranges after a month of playing and I'm still stuck down here getting called a noob. *Sigh* no one ever understands that there's a difference between a nOOb and a nEWb or newbie. I am most DEFINITELY NOT a noob. I'm proud of my slightly inactive guild. We have 50+ members and even though the most people online were 9 and alot of people join and then leave shortly thereafter, the people who get on now are real nice. If any of my guildies from <Slaughter Your World> are reading this, luv ya guys and thanks for making my life a whole lot easier even across the internet!

PvP is strictly OOC for me. And that's where I gain the upper hand. People go "Ooooo a moronic RP'er. He should be a pushover, I'm not gonna throw my best at HIM, rather save it for someone more worthy". Well, a garroted lock can't do anything for 3 seconds and by then he finds himself stunlocked.

Yabut do you ever wonder WHY they go "ooooh, a moronic RPer"? I suspect it is because the RPers tend to, well, you know, SUCK at PVP. In my battelgroup, time and again players from the RP realms have proven to be the worst in any given BG. Kudos on being the exception.

hmmm.... I wonder whether RP is inherently a problem for PVP. Consider the following sets of instructions.

"Rogues sap incomings, Huntards trap flags. Healers heal ffs and DPS do your thing" v.s. "Yon practitioners of the stealthy arts should disable any enemies that come near their hidden selves, while those whose mastery of beasts is beyond the norm would do well to lay traps for the unwary villains. Methinks that those who can replenish health and provide succour to the wounded should do so with all due haste In the meanwhile, casters of magicks foul and faire should - *popup: This Battelground is about to close* AW FUCK ME! NOT AGAIN! I DIDN'T EVEN GET TO GET OUT OF THE FECKING STARTING GATE! RATS!"

You made the mistake of assuming that every single person playing on a RP realm is a RP'er. To emphasize, I never mentioned "RP'ers", I said "People from RP realms". There's a difference. Oh and I am a RP'er, but when it comes to PvP it should be logical to be efficeint, not eloquent.

I don't think people from PvP realms (note: I did NOT say "PvP'ers") are any better, truth be told, they just have other downsides...Because they are too busy screaming "OMFGWTFUNOOBFSKINCRAP" when someone messes up to actually go and do something about it and compensate. It's a vicious circle.

That's why I run BG's only with people I know and never drop randomly into one solo.

BUT, PvP is hard. Sometimes there are other players you must beat. Also, PvE is hard. Sometimes there's fire you need to move out of.

mehg. Me, personally, I suck at pvp. Am absolutely aweful at it. But, I love the 5 man fight in mgt. Each person is tested on their skills, unlike most other fights which simply test your ability to keep your agro below the tank.

Heh, that MgT event is too dependant on luck&group composition IMHO.

But then again the whole 5-man PvE of WoW could be summarized like this:

Get a tank, preferrably a protadin.
Get a healer, preferrably a resto shammy.
Get 3 CC/DPS, preferrably all mages.

It sucks!

IN UNRELATED NEWS: Kil'Jaeden first world kill achieved by SK Gaming on Vek'Nilash EU. American WoW forums will be full of anti-European whining again...

My signature below has my two mains on it. :3

I'm going to be moving Kirqut to Scarlet Crusade someday.

I also have too many level 10 alts. There is Prestyge, my Troll that is half blood elf and wants to be a paladin. (I rolled him a shaman, he has yet to suspect anything.) I hope to someday level a healie priest to 70. She's a cute little undead named Maesylion. Hee. :3

I'm slowly forgetting my main, I'll get to him in the summer time when I'm not sacrificing school time to get that epic I'm dieing for, questing and griding are all I have time for when I am only given the average 4 hours a day, sepetated into chunks by dinner, chores and family time. My warr will expectedly be in outland by the end of the summer and then I'll move to my rouge, since I already have my DPS needs met and I want to know how tanks handle things, and learning that it's underrated for those ppl who think laying down some suppresive AoE is their only thing.

For whatever reason I am themeing all my chars, all with wyrms in their names and undead, and I will get a priest after my three others are securely in outland one way or another so I can cover all my bases, with enchanting, BS, LW, and something like engineering.

Played it for a month...don't know the 'magic' of WoW....but I don't like RPG games then I think (I love the more action-based RPG's, like Oblivion).

And only a single mage in the first downing..
[insert QQ about mages being underpowered and needing buffs].
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