LOL!!!!

I see you two adopted the site I use for sigs. XD

And 2 of those is the limit. 3 makes them way too big.

Yea they have better backgrounds

So head beating in Ulduar yesterday. Urgh.

Hate so much. We had 2 10 man groups scheduled for yesterday. However, Monday night (after I logged on), the other officers switched the runs, taking one of my dps (4.k ret pally) and giving me another ret pally (2.5k dps, and late starter, ie: 10 minutes after the start time).

Furthermore, the two healers I get are the two new members of the guild, and our enhancement shammie in an offset.

One of the new healers doesn't show up (the only one I've run with for that matter), so we have to use a third ring healer we're gearing. So it turns out the new priest who DID run, well, they slightly overstated they're gear and have 1-2 epics. And the third ring healer well he has blues and greens.

Yes, healers had issues keeping people alive last night, and the enhancement shaman was golden, the rest of the healers were terrible.

Suffice to say, my group was hamstringed by the party changes.

Oh, and our OT (fully geared bear tank), says "Gn" and dc's after two wipes of Leviathan (oh yes, a wipe on Leviathan, that kind of night). So we have to bring a back up tank, who hasn't tanked for a month or two (but don't worry, he's mostly geared from 10 man nax).

Yes, we have people in my 10 man complaining about being put on the gimped run (last week, we had a 3.2k dps as our best dps, and the numbers dropped off horribly from there).

It was stab in the eye frustration! >.< Not to mention my priest friend is on vacation (he's the one I rely on keeping heals on me, because he can pretty much cover for any other healer's lack of healing issue).

Oiy sorry to hear that.

We've had number issue's too, but at least you all will attempt a raid with undergeared folks. Our raid leader will not bring them at all. He'd prefer us to run a 25man with 21 or 22 people who are geared as opposed to running with the 3 or 4 extra who are undergeared. I keep saying to just bring them to add a warm body, sure they might be doing 3k dps but it's better than no dps. Ok fine they're going to die because they're HP's are crap well fine at least for a bit they pushed out 3k dps.

If they're not in some Naxx 25 equiv gear he doesn't want them. Yet, the guild is no longer "guild running" naxx 25 (let alone sath or maly). Any member can start a run at any point tho for those instances but nobody really does (maybe I should step up but I HATE running raids).

Hell, I've even changed out some of my gear so i can push more dps (4.6k and up on average now) but at the cost of me running oom. I have to now play the fiend pop/dispersion/mana pot game very carefully on all fights or I'll go totally oom in a heart beat.

Ulduar 25 is very frustrating now, we can kill everything up to Kolo (minus Ignis who we don't bother with) with 22 people. But the cost is that nobody can die, ever. We don't have that "whoops" I blew up 2 people cushion. If you blow someone up, don't get outta the fire, or you don't get healed (or heal yourself) and you die we wipe, no if ands or buts.

I hate being a whiner, but I'm going to "make the forum post" to blantely point all this out today I think. I'm an unofical officer so I have alot of sway, lets see what happens. *crosses fingers*

Ugh, that sounds rough. It was worth the attempt and experience for the undergeared healers. I won't pick it up again if we have those two healing (they know they're undergeared, and apologized, but we were pushing them, so I'm not mad at them). We're still running 25 Nax on Sundays to keep gearing people, and we're willing to pug to get a run in. I do think we have to focus on getting a 25 VOA and 2 10 man VOA's in once a week because tier gear is sweet upgrades for everyone.

Frustrated, but i'll get over it.

Yah, you're GM is being a deusche. We all got used to running with the best of the best in Nax, but we need every last person ready and available in Ulduar. 25 man Nax gear is not the best gear for ulduar, and you should not be running less then 25 until everyone's pretty 25 man Ulduar'd out.

The raid will be doable that way, but we've gotten used to abusing the undead, and think we can just steam roll dwarf city the same way. But the reality is ya can't do that, and you're going to suffer until you realize it. Hopefully people listen and smarten up

Ouch, guess I might have a problem getting geared up if I ever get my accout back.

I got for the most part the best pre-raid gear .

Only two items that can be bettered pre-raid is Sword (H UP) and Shield (H CoT)

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.x...l&n=Rastian

As for the sword and shield I'm actually using when I tank, sword is from H UK, and the shield is the Titansteel one. Also, now to find a post office in this town.

The GM is totally cool but has been MIA finishing up school (medical degree) so the raid leader has been pretty much in charge as of late and yes he's being a douche.

Hell, in the past he's purposely brought poor raid make up's to make a point by us wiping all night. Basically we were short healers, and a tank (maybe a core dps or two too) so he didn't want to run raid at all as oposed to bringing a undergeared tank and asking for a respec from me or the ret pally. He brought the undergeared tank but wouldn't allow anybody to respec heals. We wiped ALOT and he got alot of us VERY pissed off. His case was I told you so. Guess what we finally won so fuck him.

He's a really good raid leader when we have the core group and things are going smoothly, but when we don't have that core group he would either 1. rather us not going all or 2. if we push him to make raid he revels in us wiping because "he told us so".

Very frustrating sometimes.

Tho, we also have a BUNCH of raiders who would rather "sit out" during the learning period of a raid instances only to want to go gunho after we have it on farm status. so.... yea.... I'll be making me "bitching" post very soon.


Edit:

Hell our last Kolo kill we were short 2 healer to start with and that fight is pretty heal intensive. He asked our ele shaman to respec for heals I offered and was told flat out no (mind you we have 2 shadow priests). The healers and the tanks and the raid after 5 or so wipes were literally begging for another healer and a strat change. He was just no no no no. I pipped into the healer channel to change our strat for eyebeam, he had the entire raid moving when an eye beam appeared, I said "Look, make each individual player accountable for the eyebeam, by having the entire raid move your gimping dps ALOT." We changed so eyebeamed people ran out the door and we did it that way a few times, which was better but still alot of people dying....Finally in the healer channel I said, "I'm respecing to disc heals. At this point what's it matter." He said, "ok"

Gues what... Kolo died because with me on tank heals, the 3% damage reduction on everybody and the other holy priest on the raid less DPS died. And with more of the ranged DPS standing still and not moving as a group from eyebeams they could actually dps. see.... frustrating.

Hotfix for you Elemental Shaman out there due in the next few hours (I believe);

"We are concerned that Elemental shaman dps is a little low in patch 3.1. We are going to hotfix an improved chance for the Lightning Overload talent to cast the half-damage Lightning Bolt or Chain Lightning. This hotfix should go in sometime over the next couple of days. The talent currently has a 7 / 13 / 20% chance to proc. The new change will be an 11 / 22 / 33% chance to proc.

We think this will provide a roughly 5% dps increase for say the raid-buffed level 80 Elemental shaman, but we will closely monitor the damage being done after this change. Note that the tooltip of the talent will not change from this hotfix – the talent will proc 33% of the time with 3 ranks, even though the tooltip says 20%. We will get the tooltip updated in a future client patch."

We don't run crazy like you do. We run 2-3 healers for 10 mans, 5-6 healers for 25 mans. We just don't have 25 people geared and ready for 25 man Ulduar yet.

But we're also heavily recruiting because we were pushed down to 17 core raiders, and we need more leeway. So we're aiming for 35 or so dedicated raiders, so that you can miss a day and still be ok!

I'm the raid leader for the most part, and I do a fairly reasonable job I think. I'm a little bit better at leading when I play my elmeental shaman, just because I'm more away of what's going on, and I can respec heals (or even just throw off heals occassionally) and just flat out control fights better.

My old guild's gm was ok, but he got really stubborn for raids. Specifically, if people were dying, his solution was always to throw more healers the problem (yes, I believe our first 2 drake Sartharion attempt ended up working to 8 healers.)

Stuff just didn't die. I personally blamed the fact that he wanted the dps to burn through the damage shield (ie: hurting themselves at pretty ridiculous speeds.)

He would push heroic nax runs, and they got sloppy.

Then one week he couldn't make the run, so I led it, and we have a 3 and a half hour clear of heroic nax. It was actually rather impressive Not to toot my own horn <.< One of those times that everything runs perfectly.

Point is, listen to your healers, pay attention to your dps (who's awake, whos' not), and watch what the tanks are doing. There's always room to improve, and if healers are saying they can't handle a fight, they're probably right, and you need to adjust. If they're saying they're fine and the damage is just too out of control, they're probably right there too.

My official post on our forums. Lets see what happens. If anything.

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Sounds very reasonable Eul.

And Veni gets a hug! *Hugs* it's unprecedented, and won't happen again, but appreciate it <.<

My guild used to run kara in bc, but we dont do raids much any more. Its mostly a social guild, but it is the biggest on the server

Looks like you need to get away from WoW if its making you this frustrated.

A lot of raiders get frustrated with the game and leave. Its a shame, cos we has two guildies leave, and one was our best healer.

I'm thinking of leaving my guild due to everyone not getting on. So I am giving them will today or friday, depends how I feel.

I don't mind the wipes and the frustration (we brought undergeared people, we were pushing the envelope, and we made progress).

I do mind the fact that our OT plug pulled (he's also an officer). Set the entire mood for the run.

Otherwise, my friend hte healer is back from vacation on Thursday, and he and I can actually solo Ulduar, so i'm sure the group will recover

The only mob i ever killed in a raid was Mr Bigglesworth...

I just feed him critter bites...

LoL

Kel'Thuzad: No! come back Mr Bigglesworth! NOOOOO!!!!! You will PAY!!!!

Amazing how quickly a cat will change loyalties for a bite of food.

I just think that critters shouldn't be succeptable to environmental effects. I got a horde of mice (about 25 of them), following me in the patchwerk area, but then they all perished trying to follow me across the green ooze

I think critter bites should last longer, and they should follow through ooze... and flight form <.<

*edit* currenty lost in a day dream of flying into Dalarn with the skies blotted out by the swarm of flying rodents I've managed to feed with the wicked witch's theme song playing...

I just wish the critters didn't pull aggro.

Hello afk raid I wipe joo.

D.I.S.C.O. pulls aggro too for some reason
Kara WIPE

Lol, I did that on a 25 man Patchwerk, it was awesome.

Vengeance is mine!

Now, my pretties, fetch me all the half filled glasses of wine, teeheeheehee! And that cheese wheel.

Speaking of cheese wheels, how does the dalaran cheese shop EVER make any money? I'm constantly just stealing wine and cheese from them, damn the consequences!

They aren't supposed to make money, the cheese shop only exists to hae cheese and wine stolen from it

I had the -Same- exact issue. The GM and his officers recruited all sorts of 80's but if they were undergeared, they refused to take them on raids. They also refused to help gear them.

The GM and such eventually GQuit to join Ulduar raiding guilds.....People are so selfish on WoW now. Which is why I can't recruit anyone for my new guild. >.>

My friend Levi and I are thinking of rerolling alliance with our new alli chars and becoming PvPers.

Or leap to 80, we'll gear you and you can roll with my crew!



My parents are visiting today so I may or may not be able to play (depends on how social I feel and how long they stay), but my one friend's back and he has that new rogue! Which I'm sure is nearly 30 by now... he levels insta-fast... it's disgusting.

We've already decided that we aren't raiding. We're sick of the raiding mentallity. And I will only raid Heals or Shadow, because that is what I've always raided as.

Plus, I like being Sub Specc, so yay. Sub is not good for raiding.

Only reason I am leveling slow is because I am working on exalted with all the factions and discovering every where as I go through. So Levi and I are just doing our own thing. We might join your guild when we get higher though. He's a NE hunter and he loves it.

Ugh, NE... they can die in a fire, a deep evil fire.

Still, you're more then welcome once you get up there (well, no, I was gonna say now, but we're probably avoiding too many lowbies running around... but we are a casual raiding... so it's possible... *ponders* I'll check.)

Na, I told Levi I want to run guildless on this toon. I also told him, "Maybe at 70 I'll ask Kevin if I can join his guild."

Seriously, once I hit 70, then I know for a fact that I'll play this toon a lot. I mean, why not? It's 10 levels from 80. >.>.....

But right now I am 13. =) =P





I went to bed 2-3 hours early......Rather, on time but....

That's something I like about new characters... pass out when you feel like it! Ah the freedom of youth!

Well! You weren't on, Levi was tired, I was tired (Only 3 hours of sleep the night/day before/of) so we just logged.

No, seriously, i think good sleeping habits should be encouraged!

Same here.....You need to play with us tonight. =(

Level 20 here I come!

I have about 8 or 9 20+ toons, but only 3 above 30, and 1 at 80

I believe I may be suffering from a conditon sometimes known as alt-itis

I have 2 80's, 1 over 60, and several in the 20-30 range. My one friend has it bad though. 2-80's, 1 76, 1 70 (paladin), 1 -62 (paladin), and several 30-40's. And he just erased one to start a new character.

Really, why 2 paladins?!!!

My dad has 5 hunters.

1 was his main
1 became his main when we got a new account
1 is a pvp twink
1 is on horde cos he wanted to play a horde
1 is on another server incase lightbringer is down

I think i have like 10 warlocks, maybe more

I get bored with my main server and just make another one on another server

A lot of the characters I have are bank alts. I guess I manage my equipment badly...

TITANSTEEL DESTROYER HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!



I said something similar, I said fuck it and took a 4 month break. It-Felt-Wonderful. Cause when you come back from a long break everything seems so new and fresh and full of life again.

Like when BC came out, I basically forgot about WoW and all its contents, made a BE Paladin and had the best time of my life. Everything seemed so new and interesting to me. Like when new content comes out I've just gotta explore (I got the explorer title too... shush). And when WOTLK was released, I was so excited. Everything was so... NEW! I like seeing and learning new things, makes everything more interesting and makes the game fun... for me anyway.

Not to mention the people, you notice that when you start as a low level. Everyone is just god damn stupid, but as you progress a little bit you start finding all the "smart" ones and become good friends. For me its make a toon, boom, people are like "Hi there! You seem pretty good a this game!" or "Hey! Wanna go to this with me? I enjoy grouping with you!" and all that what not.


I love World of Warcraft sometimes, and oh do I miss it when I was starting out and learning. So much fun.

I only have 2 80's, Dabuu on horde side and Quillathe on alli.

I have a 72 (almost 73) warrior, who I again found an affinity for playing. Dual weilding titangrip is fun!!!! Tho I wish I could make her a gnome...think a dual weilding titan grip warrior gnome would be fun to run around as.

Got a slew of lower lvl toons on hellscream alliance side, a 45 warlock, a 35 priest (in a friends guild) and a lvl 11 hunter (in a guild because a friend has to much stuff and wanted his own bank tabs).

Er.. hellscream horde lowbies...lets see... 20 mage a 11 druid and a lvl maybe 5 rogue.

Sounds like me.

So apparently, as a priest, you get to level... 12 and you're set for killing stuff the rest of the way. The trick being you need to learn Lifetap so you have mana recovery everytime something dies.

Yes, life is once again easy.

Other notes - Shaman was pugged into a raid >.> And they had never done Ulduar before... EVER.

I just wanted a new car added to my 3 car garage, but we also managed to get the "No Scrapbots for you!" achievement as well as the no one dies to Gravity bombs achievement. I feel successful!

But we only downed three bosses. Rough healing, people learning fights and dps being under performers. I was the top dps at 3.6k and the next was 3.3k. Then the ret pally we kicked off dps to heal (I was healing initially, but adds were running rampant on Razorscale and I have aoe root as elemental), was trying to get me to go back to heals, and I'm like "You were middle of hte pack dps, I'm top dps. We need to aoe scrapbots, slow them, root them, and generally kill them (and the bombs at range or you'll blow up)... I'm not going back or the raid will fail.

Seriously!

Ego <.< Yes, warranted, YES!

lol.

But now my shammy is broke. Apparently I don't do enough dailies (ok, ANY dailies), and while my warrior has 2.5k gold, my shaman is pretty broke.

I should work on that >.<

I haven't even logged wow the past 2 days. Just been kinda meh. Think because I've been doing daily's well.. daily the past week I may have sorta burned myself out a bit. Probably will log for raids only this week and jump back on the daily bandwagon late next week.

Yes well kimi and I are both leveling up those newbie characters on my server now (eh, ok today's bad because of a Ulduar raid, how's Saturday?)

And my other friend will more then likely be leveling his rogue, and kimi's friend has a hunter. Yes, progress is being made!

Expect us all to pvp if we ever make it that high!

I got raid at 8pm tonight (EST) but maybe I'll jump on my pally on Steemwheedle for a bit

Awesome!!!

Oh man, running with this pug group it was one of those "... god i love my guild." moments.

Where tanks don't pull (yes, let's stare at the trash to death, or pull only after the third ready check (yes we've all been ready since the first one).

Explanatinos are long winded and completely innaccurate (Everyone form into a scattered mass of people for Deconstructor so no one knows where to run!)

Ah, I love the chaos of my own runs.

"RAWR! TANK PULL NOW!", what he pulled? GOGOGO!

Ok, not entirely chaotic, except in Nax... then anything goes

Right after you logged, I died, so I got pissed and fore closed WoW instead of logging, so my body is somewhere in the ocean.....

And yes, Euo, my friend Levi has a hunter on the server with us, he's 15. His main is also a priest, except he is shadow! =)

You should play with us more!

Ok might be a bit later than planned. Decided to stop slacking and go running again this afternoon, in the blistering florida humidity. Soo.. hour run then make dinner then log wow. I'll try and cram some lvling on Steemwheedle tho. Promise

I'm actually having family, and "sort of family" playing with me, its exciting but their all mooching off me.