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Baeron von Bleat
QUOTE(Kimira @ Apr 16 2009, 01:02 PM) [snapback]416007[/snapback]
To me, as a raid leader, it's my job to gear my guildies. After all, I was given raid leader for a reason, no? Yes, I feel they can do things like heroics/OS to get gear (10/25 man OS PuGs are cake really....) But as far as Naxx goes, that's on me to get them in there. A guild is just that, a guild. What use is it for me to say "Go pug and get gear then you can raid with us?" None, because now we are a useless guild. And going into Ulduar, my best people aren't always on, and I love Naxx, and so does my guild. We're willing to run a lot just to gear our peeps. But it's my job as raid leader to over see it.

We did 10 man Ulduar yesterady (got leviathan), we're doing 25 man nax tonight to gear more of the undergeared people. 10 man VOA where we can, and a second 10 man ulduar run on Saturday.

We're not being specific about who goes at the moment, we may have a top group run next week, but our raid schedule is Nax runs, Ulduar filler.

It's just the benefit of the guild, and helpful overall. It also allows people to play with new specs/builds/tweaks that we've been dealt without a high intensity fight going on.

So really, for the most part I agree with Kimi (you have to not get so stressed about it though.)

I dunnoe, have to relax on the "Everything centers around me not failing as guild leader" mentality, or you burn yourself out really fast.

The guy who's trying to take over the nax run seems like a jerk. If it was someone offering to help, that'd be different, but he's trying to force the reigns.
Kimira
QUOTE(Baeron von Bleat @ Apr 16 2009, 07:09 AM) [snapback]416014[/snapback]
We did 10 man Ulduar yesterady (got leviathan), we're doing 25 man nax tonight to gear more of the undergeared people. 10 man VOA where we can, and a second 10 man ulduar run on Saturday.

We're not being specific about who goes at the moment, we may have a top group run next week, but our raid schedule is Nax runs, Ulduar filler.

It's just the benefit of the guild, and helpful overall. It also allows people to play with new specs/builds/tweaks that we've been dealt without a high intensity fight going on.

So really, for the most part I agree with Kimi (you have to not get so stressed about it though.)

I dunnoe, have to relax on the "Everything centers around me not failing as guild leader" mentality, or you burn yourself out really fast.

The guy who's trying to take over the nax run seems like a jerk. If it was someone offering to help, that'd be different, but he's trying to force the reigns.

I'm just raid leader, not guild leader, but I get what you're saying. I'm not afraid to fail as a raid leader, I have already made mistakes lol....
ForNOD
Pumpkin head holloween drop is amazing btw. the laugh is worth every penny
Baeron von Bleat
QUOTE(ForNOD @ Apr 16 2009, 01:55 PM) [snapback]416051[/snapback]
Pumpkin head holloween drop is amazing btw. the laugh is worth every penny

... What?
euology
Yea that was kinda, random and sooooo last october. hehe.

Anywho, we'll be hitting up 25 Ulduar and maybe vault tonight, let ya know how we fare smile.gif

Kimira
QUOTE(ForNOD @ Apr 16 2009, 07:55 AM) [snapback]416051[/snapback]
Pumpkin head holloween drop is amazing btw. the laugh is worth every penny

So, the day I got that, I rushed to SSO Isle and bought the resilience head enchant, and enchanted the helm.

I have yet to wear it in PvP.....
Nesstar
As a raid leader, you can define it any way you feel like filling the role. Technically for my guild it is to make sure the right people and classes are in the run... and to me the run go as smoothly as possible.
I Usually do what the most peeps in the guild want to do. Right now they want ulduar biggrin.gif

Usually the most geared in my guild are the ones who are willing to show up for most the raids and most willing to help others.
So halting our progression for those who didnt want to go to half the raids is not one of my options.... I still run naxx on weekends for those who still need it, but we set aside 2 days of progression one day of gearing.... As hard as ulduar is, i think we are going to do 2 days of gearing 1 day of mass wipes on ulduar!
Kimira
QUOTE(Nesstar @ Apr 16 2009, 10:49 AM) [snapback]416211[/snapback]
As a raid leader, you can define it any way you feel like filling the role. Technically for my guild it is to make sure the right people and classes are in the run... and to me the run go as smoothly as possible.
I Usually do what the most peeps in the guild want to do. Right now they want ulduar biggrin.gif

Usually the most geared in my guild are the ones who are willing to show up for most the raids and most willing to help others.
So halting our progression for those who didnt want to go to half the raids is not one of my options.... I still run naxx on weekends for those who still need it, but we set aside 2 days of progression one day of gearing.... As hard as ulduar is, i think we are going to do 2 days of gearing 1 day of mass wipes on ulduar!

We have a bunch of new 80s/people who just hit 80 in our guild because the old GM gkicked all the good people and then left the guild to my RL friend Greg....

So we are starting from scratch.
Baeron von Bleat
25 man runs on Tuesday/Thursday (7:30-10:30) we end at 10:30 regardless. Then Sunday is extra 25 man stuff, same time line, and 10 mans are whenever you can.

We'll be doing heroic nax tonight, finishing Sunday if needed, otherwise bringing cash and wiping in Ulduar a bunch biggrin.gif

*edit* Kimi, if you are reading this, I am dead... or I am reminding you about rp notes.
euology
Ulduar is fun biggrin.gif

We one shot flame leviathan, wiped maybe 4 or so times to RazorScale but he died too (lag got really really bad, I DC'd i think 3 times. Ran right past Ignis to try the Deconstructor... we tried maybe 4 times or so, but I think us laughing so hard as we ran in to engage him kept ensuring the tank would die. If you've not fought the big robot make sure you have all your audio settings on, I almost spit out a mouthful of water I had taken when we started the fight cause I started cracking up.

We'll get em Saturday tho to be sure, we could have done it tonight but our raids always end around 11pm regardless because a good chunk of us are east coast and have to work early.
Nesstar
HAHA the new VOA boss rocks... but is alot harder on 25 man then 10.
Zoran
Tried Ulduar, I hate it.
euology
New VOA boss 25 isn't to bad as long as people actually pay attention and change targets.

Deconstructor 25 however... oiy...
Kimira
Tried VoA Boss on 10Man.....With a Pug.....And No Vent.....

Hi fail bus.....

Still haven't done Ulduar. Plan on taking my super geared raiders this week.

And my friend Levi and I spent the last 4 hours or so, just for me, grinding my Mag'Har rep from 4.2K Revered to Exalted....

When did the beads go from being stacks of 25=75 rep to stacks of 10=500 rep? That is bullshit. Need less to say, I got my fuckin talbuk mounts! Yay. 10 More mounts and I have that 50 mount achievement. (Old news I know but eh! I never cared to go for it.)

And Only 21 more pets until the 75 Achievement one. So much rep grinding and farming. XD.....

Oh well.....
euology
Decontructor really makes my eyes bleed on 25man.

6min enrage is ass.

We keep getting him to like 11% before he goes nutz and wipes us. We only run 6 healers and rarely does DPS die, heck with wound poision up we can keep mele on the exposded heart and on him and not go to crazy trying to take down every single repair bot. If the repair bots get to him we can dps through it but we still can't seem to kill the fucker.

We get on more shot on Deconstructor tonight.

Oh and I got my Tier 8 gloves off 25 VOA boss yesterday. /win!
Zoran
I never win loot, like, ever. So I just said fuck it and started doing random shit.
Venine
Well as a Guild our lesser geared group hit Ulduar 10 on Saturday to down Flame Levi on our third attempt, quit an easy fight once you get the hang of it & have decent melee DPS on the Turrets. We then tried XT - Best attempt was 82% before wipeage - lesser geared group for a reason, damn adds.... Razorscale they just couldn't get organised & Ignis' Molten Guardians wiped us 5 times before we called it a night, though we think they bugged; they still managed to chain Earthquake at 50 yards apart.

Went Heroic on Sunday and hell, 70m HP Flame Lev!? Took us five tries to kill him, though we wiped twice in the Gauntlet with people getting used to their vehicles. Spent 2 hours wiping on Razorscale; People fail at avoiding "Consuming Flame." They announce it on vent, then just stand there, roast to death & wacth as the rest of the raid dies due to the Adds eventually getting loose. No idea how you're meant to do 25 man Razorscale.

Then again, it might just be because they failed at avoiding Consuming Flame & thus the DPS sucked as they all died off slowly...

I like Ulduar as a challenge, but I'm not liking the prospect of wiping on XT, Razorscale & Ignis for the next few months; I'm a person who wants to progress, but refuses to leave my current (sucky) Guild; why god knows. It doesn't help that no Guilds on my server are recruiting Hunters, let alone of the BM variety.
euology
QUOTE (Venine @ Apr 20 2009, 10:48 AM) *

Went Heroic on Sunday and hell, 70m HP Flame Lev!? Took us five tries to kill him, though we wiped twice in the Gauntlet with people getting used to their vehicles.


We one shotted Flame Lev, I couldn't beleive it and they even let me drive the catapult your friend engine. I got to throw a gnome DK at a big ass robot, which of course proceeded to chase me shortly after that and eat me, but he died right after I did so we didn\'t need to worry bout the loss of another catapult.

QUOTE (Venine @ Apr 20 2009, 10:48 AM) *

Spent 2 hours wiping on Razorscale; People fail at avoiding "Consuming Flame." They announce it on vent, then just stand there, roast to death & wacth as the rest of the raid dies due to the Adds eventually getting loose. No idea how you\'re meant to do 25 man Razorscale.


We were about the same, 2 hours and we killed em. That fights only bad if people don't get the f' outta the fire and the harpoons arn\'t set off quickly. We just stuck a hunter in back and said, "Harpoons, handle it."

QUOTE (Venine @ Apr 20 2009, 10:48 AM) *

Then again, it might just be because they failed at avoiding Consuming Flame & thus the DPS sucked as they all died off slowly...


If anybody uses xpearl or any boss mods that display when you have aggro that's how I know that a consuming flame\'s been targeted on me. Any time my aggro warnings go off I\'d move my ass, the flame hit behind me and hopefully people would get the hint. I look at the flames kinda like Void Reavers orbs. Just move away when someone gets targetted for it. To help with the fireball heals, assign a healer to use the dragon as target of target. So they can see who the dragons targeting to get hit, like for Solarian in TK.

QUOTE (Venine @ Apr 20 2009, 10:48 AM) *

I like Ulduar as a challenge, but I'm not liking the prospect of wiping on XT, Razorscale & Ignis for the next few months; I\'m a person who wants to progress, but refuses to leave my current (sucky) Guild; why god knows. It doesn't help that no Guilds on my server are recruiting Hunters, let alone of the BM variety.


As far as I know Ignis is still bugged so we're not doing that yet, when we killed Razorscale we did it on the 8min timer, not the 10. And now I'm hearing that the Deconstructor (my current bane) should be an 8min engrage timer for 25man not 6min. We almost got him at the 6min timer, we're just not quite there yet.

I still really like the content, I\'m glad it hard again. Naxx, Sath and Maly in all honesty were cake walks. I\'m glad fights are putting responsibility back on each and every player. Get it together or keep wiping your raid. I think flame levithan could have been a bit harder, we pwnd it and i felt a little giped. Guess that\'s what hard mode is for tho heh.
Baeron von Bleat
We did 25 man VOA yesterday with sad results. Of course we only did it for a short time, but in three wipes it wasn't coming together.

The problem being melee dps. We have heavy numbers of melee, and they weren't doing the best of jobs getting from Emalon to the adds to down the charged one. Third try we got one add down and that was our best attempt. However, we're looking to improve. Problem is not everyone has their dps, so we weren't quite ready to brave 25 man Ulduar. This week we're upping the anty a bit however. Putting our best foot forward for a 10 man attempt at Ulduar Wednesday, clearing VOA on Thursday, and doing 25 man Ulduar all day Sunday.

I'm expecting our 10 man will get through five bosses minimum. Our 25 man, well, probably less, but it won't be that bad.

I'll definitely be applying the heal strategy though, that's a great idea.
euology
QUOTE (Baeron von Bleat @ Apr 20 2009, 12:23 PM) *
We did 25 man VOA yesterday with sad results. Of course we only did it for a short time, but in three wipes it wasn't coming together.

The problem being melee dps. We have heavy numbers of melee, and they weren't doing the best of jobs getting from Emalon to the adds to down the charged one. Third try we got one add down and that was our best attempt. However, we're looking to improve. Problem is not everyone has their dps, so we weren't quite ready to brave 25 man Ulduar. This week we're upping the anty a bit however. Putting our best foot forward for a 10 man attempt at Ulduar Wednesday, clearing VOA on Thursday, and doing 25 man Ulduar all day Sunday.

I'm expecting our 10 man will get through five bosses minimum. Our 25 man, well, probably less, but it won't be that bad.

I'll definitely be applying the heal strategy though, that's a great idea.


Maybe try it like we did, we're often mele heavy too (10 or so per raid), pull the big fucker to the far left (West side), have your tempest tank hang out behind mele and towards the center a bit (druids make it easier cause they can farie fire pull the new add when it pops or just make a huntard ready a distracting shot). All ranged and all healers spread out around the rest of the right side of the room (East side). Mele shouldn't have to move far (if at all other than turning around) and bigwigs automatically puts up a skull on the growning tempest. It's conjested with all the adds regardless so just set up tank targets (tab tageting is fail) and have all mele and ranged DPS work off that from the add tanks target.

Our VoA kill was scary tho, we jumped in there 20min before wintergrasp was starting. We wiped twice becuase half the DPS was grouped up and got pwnd by the chain lightning. 2nd attempt we got the warning that it was going to reset (10min) 3rd attempt we got the message that it was resetting so it was basically kill him or get booted the f' out. We killed him lol.
Baeron von Bleat
So yah, we made a few fun attempts at some bosses, we did leviathan, but otherwise that was about our only accomplishment. Blasted 25 man runs.

However, I got pugged to a 10 man run, and we downed deconstructor with ease. Which was probably a lesson that we should haev dps'd down the heart in 25 man, but we didn't know that.

Grr.

But I got to see Korgorath and the Iron council, Both are interesting fights. The group I was with didn't learn either, but I got experience I'm going to share with my guildies on our 10 man. I expect a full clear on wednesday.

The group had skipped razorscale and ignis however. I may suggest we skip as well for ease of downing other stuff.
Venine
Best of luck with that Bae, as Ignis' Scorch is geting a nerf in both 10 & 25 man, though most of the hard mode bosses got a long list of buffs, the smallest being XT 002 with a 5% base HP & damage buff.

The largest? Mimiron. People seem to be struggling with him on normal mode, but now they've buffed his dmage & his health again. Should be an interesting few weeks just to see who can actually unlock Alagon first, let alone kill him.
euology
I've not ran a 10man yet (ok well 1 10man but it was bad instance day, had flame lev at like 20% and the instance servers crashed). Really only 25.

Seems 10man is super easier-mode than 25 by a drastic scale. Suppose I should jump in a 10man this week just to see other bosses.
Baeron von Bleat
QUOTE (euology @ Apr 21 2009, 01:12 PM) *
I've not ran a 10man yet (ok well 1 10man but it was bad instance day, had flame lev at like 20% and the instance servers crashed). Really only 25.

Seems 10man is super easier-mode than 25 by a drastic scale. Suppose I should jump in a 10man this week just to see other bosses.

Eh, Razorscale was hard as heck on 10 man last week (albeit this was Wednesday). At that point I believe the adds were doing full damage, and sentinels beat really hard, and flame spots were doing massive damage. It was just an ugly instance really.

I haven't tried Ignis yet. But from the sounds of it, fights are a lot more... intense? As in you need specific people specific places, and it's a lot more difficult to balance (where as 25 man raids you're like to have the exact mix that you're looking for).
Venine
10 Man is indeed in some fights, harder than 25 man. 25 Man has the 'Hard Modes' to go for whereas 10 man has 15 fewer players, 1/3 of the DPS, half the healers and still has similiar beserker timers (6 min XT, 10 min Razorscale) to 25 man. Ok, the bosses are weaker, but there isn't that much of a difference in damage done by the bosses.

Eg; Ignis' Scorch on 25 man only hits for around 1300 more damage minimum than the maximum damage on 10 man, but seeing as 10 man lack the extra buffs & such this could be a problem.

The one thing I still don't like about 10 man raiding is the whole 'Bring the class, not the player' even though Blizzard really want us to bring the player, not the class.

Most of the fights in Ulduar are heavy on Raid damage, meaning Holy Paladins are really getting it in the neck again. Fair enough you can bring one for tank healing & leave raid healing to the others, but it does limit the number of Paladins you can bring healing wise. SOme fights you might really need that second, or maybe even third Paladin buff which again asks you what class you can bring in their place.

At first, naxx was very Druid-tank favoured, leaving you with a choice; heavy Melee DPS, or heavy ranged DPS? Near enough everyone went for ranged as Melee did very little buff wise and made bosses like KT & Grobb a pain when learning the fight with new graphics (DK's on KT for the first time anyone?)

But that's just me really. I was hoping for a good solid attempt in 10 man this Friday, but looking at the numbers of accepted vs declined (1:4) I don't see it happening. I really need a new Guild who're getting stuck into Ulduar, but alas...
Dracon
I'm a level 70 ret pally and I love to hit things with my mace.
Venine
Algalon the Raid Destroyer has been unleashed.

Enjoy, folks.

Oh confirmed by a Blizzard poster; Algalon despawns after ONE HOUR OF FIGHT; Bearing in mind that ONE HOUR Is per WEEK. Yeah, the race to see this guy killed will be a fun one.
Kimira
Kevin and Euo!!!! Help!!!!

My 10 man Ulduar is tomorrow, and I want to know everything about every boss you guys encountered and strats to go about it. Please!!! I'm the raid leader, so they are looking at me to know wtf I am talking about.

My classes stand as this.

Death Knight DPS
Priest MH (Also Me.)
Priest OH
Shaman DPS
Shaman DPS
Warrior MT
Warrior OT
Druid OH
Druid OH/DPS
Hunter DPS
Rogue DPS
Mage DPS

The second Druid is back up DPS/Heals, and the Shadow Priest will be heals too. Mage is also back up DPS.
Zoran
QUOTE (Kimira @ Apr 21 2009, 05:59 PM) *
Kevin and Euo!!!! Help!!!!

and I want to know everything about every boss you guys encountered and strats to go about it. .


Give me a call around 5 Central time or I'll go on your vent and explain some things that I know.
euology
Got suckered to heal a 10man Ulduar yesterday. Decided since we had a deep holy priest and a druid already healing I'd go with the disc raid healer build. And let me say, thank fucking god I did. Don't get me wrong, I was a bit rusty at first, and my "outfittered" healing gear is mostly MP5 for a deep holy build but after a few runs and doofing around I really fell into disc healing. (tho, I definately need to tweak out my gear with a bit more crit and less MP5 I think, thankfully I'm a crit heavy shadow priest so I can work it out to be sure).

Anywho, decided to leave a tower up for 10man Flame Lev. We wiped once only because the other demo tank driver had never launched someone and didn't realize it was a cast bar. By the time we recovered from that cluster fuck I'd gotten mowed down by Levithan in my Demo Tank. 2nd attempt much better, my demo tank did blow up at the end but achievement gained so YAY!. Oh and yay for hard mode 10man bug, conqueror badges LOL.

Next up we went to razorscale, one shotted him. Disc Priests are crazy! swear to god I can flash heal the entire raid, sheild them all and still greater heal a tank with time to spare LOL.

Skipped Ignis as we hate him. Will hit it later in the week I suppose.

One shotted deconstructor, this fight took me a bit to feel out healing wise. I haven't REALLY raid healed since the Gruul lair days so my idea of healing for aoe type damage is Prayer of Healing. For about 50% of the fight I kept trying to use that to heal up the parties untill I realized me just flash healing/sheilding everybody was far more efficient. Healers had to help kill adds, which was fine, 2 healy priest + mindsear works pretty good tbh. Also got the achivement for not failing at gravity bombs.

Decided to avoid the Iron Council as it is kinda a side boss and went straight for Kologarn. Think we wiped maybe 3 times, but we killed him. Luckily when he got to like 10% he eye beamed me twice in a row which gave all the grouped up mele time to beat him down (since they wern't running from an eyebeam).

Our 10 man raid makeup:

Warrior MT
Druid Tank
DeathKnight Blood
Druid Mele DPS (alt of 25man raid leader)
Paladin Ret
Shaman Enchan
Druid Resto
Priest Holy
Priest Disc (me)
Hunter

So yea, VERY mele heavy group lol

Oh, and this was all without Vent as our server was down for some reason LOL. The GM hopped on after we had finished raiding for the night (tank and dps had to go to bed) and she let us know it was back up.
euology
QUOTE (Kimira @ Apr 21 2009, 06:59 PM) *
Kevin and Euo!!!! Help!!!!

My 10 man Ulduar is tomorrow, and I want to know everything about every boss you guys encountered and strats to go about it. Please!!! I'm the raid leader, so they are looking at me to know wtf I am talking about.






I know I fail. Double Post, but I didn't see Kim ask for help till after my last post.

If you like surprises for your raid content no looky any further!!

I post these up for my guild (and a friend of mines guild) for each new piece of content (gives nobody any excuse not to know a fight). Unfortunately I made this one at work, so I wasn't able to really watch/listen to any of the vids so they may suck. But at least it will show the fights biggrin.gif

Also, our forums use the "youtube imbed BBC so if i miss a re-link on them sorry 0_o


Ulduar

Yay new stuff to make deaded

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Formation Grounds


Flame Leviathan: Flame Leviathan is the first boss encounter in Ulduar, found in the Formation Grounds. Most of the players in this encounter will not be using their regular class abilities, but instead work with siege vehicles to destroy this machine. (similar to drakes in Malygos' third phase) It cannot be skipped, and must be destroyed in order to pursue the rest of Ulduar.

Hard Mode requires players to defeat Flame Leviathan while leaving at least one to all four towers active.

YouTube Vid


Colossal Forge

Ignis the Furnace Master: Ignis the Furnace Master is a Fire Giant in Ulduar and can be found in the Colossal Forge.
YouTube Vid


Razorscale: Razorscale is the third boss encounter in Ulduar. It is an Ironbound proto-drake that flies over the Razorscale's Aerie, across from the Colossal Forge. It seems Razorscale is the product of Loken's plans with Veranus judging by the names of several items that drop off of her.
YouTube Vid


Scrapyard


XT-002 Deconstructor: XT-002 Deconstructor is the fourth raid boss in the upcoming Ulduar raid. He directly blocks the entrance into the lower level of Ulduar in the Scrapyard.
YouTube Vid


Assembly of Iron


Assembly of Iron (aka: The Iron Council): The Assembly of Iron is the fifth boss encounter in Ulduar found in the Assembly of Iron. The encounter consists of Steelbreaker, Runemaster Molgeim, and Stormcaller Brundir. Killing any one of the three will give a soft enrage of +25% damage to the other two and grant them additional abilities. (Similar to Fathom-Lord Karathress) Killing the second of the trio will grant the last with a final stage apart from their usual abilities which must be dealt with in different tactics.

The hard mode of this fight requires players to kill Steelbreaker last.

YouTube Vid


Shattered Walkway

Kologarn: Kologarn is the sixth boss encounter in Ulduar that will be released in patch 3.1.0. He guards the Shattered Walkway into central Ulduar where not only is he protecting the bridge, he is the bridge. Players fight not only him but two detachable arms that appear to be separate mobs that can be broken off of him.
YouTube Vid


Auriaya: Auriaya is the seventh boss encounter in Ulduar.She roams around the area beyond the Shattered Walkway.
YouTube Vid


Sparks of Imagination

Mimiron: Mimiron is an encounter in the Ulduar dungeon. He created Flame Leviathan.
YouTube Vid


Conservatory of Life

Freya: Freya is one of the boss encounters in Ulduar, similar to Sartharion when to comes to her hard mode. She is in the center of the valley in Ulduar, surrounded by three ancients which all have unique abilities that will make the fight harder if players choose not to kill them prior to fighting Freya.
YouTube Vid


Clash of Thunder

Thorim: Thorim is one of the boss encounters in Ulduar. In order to defeat Thorim, players must go through a gauntlet starting off with a Jormungar Behemothω τ α and a rush of iron dwarves.
YouTube Vid


Halls of Winter

Hodir: Hodir is one of the boss encounters in Ulduar. Players will be able to fight him but not kill him. His loot is distributed through a frozen chest in his chambers.
YouTube Vid


Descent of Madness

General Vezax: General Vezax is the twelfth boss encounter in Ulduar. He can be found in the Descent into Madness guarding the Prison to Yogg-Saron. Mana-based classes will have to deal with a lock on their regen, but will be able to restore it by destroying crystals that will drop a residue on the floor to restore it.

Hard mode requires players not to break any of these crystals and not regen any mana outside of potions and active abilities.

YouTube Vid


Yogg Saron: Yogg-Saron is the Old God of death, imprisoned by the Titans within the depths of Ulduar.He is responsible for much of the corruption in the Grizzly Hills, including that of Ursoc.[5] He has managed to sway Loken under his influence, using him to wage war with the rest of the Pantheon.


The Celestial Planetarium

Algalon the Observer: Algalon the Observer will be an encounter in Ulduar, expected to be released in patch 3.1. He has been referred to by Blizzard as "Algalon the Raid Destroyer". He is a hard mode only encounter that cannot be accessed until at least one member of your raid has completed the quest chain that starts from a drop from the Iron Council. To complete the quest and open the door to Algalon's room, one must acquire the sigils of all four Watchers (Hodir, Freya, Thorim, and Mimiron) by defeating them on their respective hard modes


Baeron von Bleat
Flame Leviathan - Two abilities.
Firstly, it does a flame spout in a small aoe around itself, and tosses rockets around, this is minimal damage, flame spout can be interupted by siege weapons.

Secondly - Flame Leviathan Acquires a target, and chases said target, and rams them repeatedly if they're in range. Switches targets every 30 seconds. Being rammed applies a debuff on your vehicle which lasts for 20 seconds, increasing damage taken by 50% (stackable).

Throughout the fight, Flame leviathan will stack an increase of speed on itself, to a maximum of 20 stacks.

If he reaches 20 stacks, vehicles wills start dying very quickly.

He will only target Demolishers and Siege engines (unless all demolishers and siege engines have been destroyed).

The Vehicles - 10 man - Suggest 2 siege engines, 2 demolishers, 2 bikes. You want 2 heavy dps'ers as the passengers on the demolishers. When leviathan reaches 10 stacks of the speed increase, load the two dps into the catapults and launch them (have to be launched at the front of leviathan). They will be able to use their ablities to dps down his turrets. Once both turrets are dead, he will have a generator shut down, stunning him for 10 seconds, and resetting his speed stacks.

Damage - Damage is done by ramming (siege engines), rockets (all passengers), fire rocks (demolishers), and bikes have some damage thing. Also, bikes should constantly drop tar in the predicted path of Leviathan, as it slows him down 40%. This tar can and should be set on fire by the demolishers to inflict heavy damage to leviathan.

He's pretty easy.


Ignis the Furnace Master - Heavy melee hits, fire aoe blast in front of him, activates the iron colussus's around the room, randomly targets a party member and puts them in his fire pot, doing heavy damage (needs to be healed through). If the player survives, they will do an increase of 50% damage!

Tank holds him facing up the ramp, dps stands behind him. OT picks up the adds. Bring the add in front of Ignis, and hold them in the aoe fire damage. After a few seconds, they will become molten (doing more damage). OT brings them into the water, where they become brittle (immobile). OT moves away, range dps kill the add (add shatters doing huge damage 10 yard aoe.)

Each colossus alive will give a 10% damage buff to Ignis, so they need to be downed.


Razorscale - This is an event. There are three harpoon guns lying dormant, with some engineers by them. There is also a circle on the ground. Party members should spread out within the circle (leave one ranged, ie: hunter by the harpoons), tanks should be split between north and south of the circle. Adds will appear from the ground, and need to be picked up by the tank. They consist of... er, Sentinels (big guys, do whirlwind, melee watch out), guardians, and runecasters. The runecasters are the short ones, and can be stunned, interupted (And should be). They do chain lightning which can be devestating.

During this time, Razorscale will be tossing down "Devouring flame" doing direct damage to targets, plus an aoe fire which has to be moved out of IMMEDIATLY. So all members should spread out, and keep on the move (and be aware at all times).

The engineers will be fixing the harpoons. Once the third harpoon is fixed, hunter activates them, and Razorscale will be dragged down in the center of the circle (Facing the harpoons). Tanks should drag the adds so they stand in front of Razorscale (either bubble and top off the tanks, or have them holding the adds but outside of the cone effect breath razorscale will shoot). This breath attack will always be directed at the harpoons.

All other dps should be dps'ing Razorscale hard at this point. After about 10-15 seconds of being stunned, Razorscale does a fire breath, and knocks all the harpoons down, and flies back into the air. This phase repeats until Razorscale is at 50%.

50% Razorscale stays down, adds stop spawning. Tanks need to trade off tanking Razorscale after 2 debuffs. Still avoiding Devouring flames at this point.

Razorscale has a... 8 minute enrage timer.


X002 - Deconstructor - (note turn up your wow sounds so you can hear his voice). Deconstructor does three basic abilites.

Light Bomb - Debuff - does aoe damage to those around you (and yourself) for 9 seconds. Person should move 15 yards away.

Void Bomb - Debuff - After 9 seconds, pull anyone within 15 yards toward you doing heavy shadow damage (move to the side, 20 yards away to be safe).

Timpanic Tantrum - Deocunstror pounds the ground, doing 10% damage every second to EVERYONE in the raid for 12 seconds (ie:120% damage). Heavy heals needed for anyone with lightbomb or void bomb at this point, light heals for everyone else, should be easy enough to get through (you just need to heal 25%).

Every 25% health, Deconstructor will stop all attack, and open his heart. All dps should focus on the heart at this point. Heart takes 100% damage, and when the heart is moved back in, this damage is impacted on Deconstructor (do not destroy the heart, as this will activate hard mode).

Adds will also spawn at this time from the four corners (scrapbots (3k hp tiny bots), boom bots(bomb bots, range dps kill them), and pummelers (OT picks them up and holds them).

If done right, you can do nearly 25% damage to deconstructor when his heart is out. Make sure scrap bots are AOE'd down before they reach him (They can be slowed and rooted and frost trapped, etc.) but if they reach him, it's like the zombies in gluuth. 6-8 minute enrage timer (not sure), should be easy if you blast the heart.


Iron Council - Consists of Steelbreaker, Rune caster Molgrin, and... er... short dude! I'll list them with initial abilities, and added abilities when their friends die.

Steelbreaker
small aoe nature damage
Fusion punch (big cast time) HUGE damage to tank (bubble them!), also puts a debuff on tank which should be dispelled immediatly (magic).
1 boss down - Overcharge - Charges on of the players, making them do 200% damage for 25 seconds. At the end of this time, they explode, doing huge aoe damage to anyone within 30 yards and they die.
Also does a raid debuff increasing nature damage by some large amount.

You want to down him first <-

Runecaster Molgrin
Does an aoe lightning damage
Casts a blue rune under a fellow boss, increases their damage by 50%. Tanks move them off this rune, and dps moves onto this rune.
1 boss down - Places a large green rune under a random player - Does huge aoe damage, move off this immediatly!!!
Also does a buff on himself increasing damage by a lot. Can be purged or stolen (prefer stolen).
2 boss down - Summons elementa adds which move to random people and blow up for heavy nature damage.

Little guy -
Chain lightning
1 boss down 30 yard aoe lightning
2 Flies in air, does aoe nature around him (Everyone has to scatter), will pick a random target and fly to them. Avoid that person. Changes targets a few times, lands.

Hold Runecaster and little guy off to side with a tank and a healer (healer stays outside of his aoe).

Stealbreak should be downed first.

Main tank grabs Runecaster and brings him to same place you downed Steelbreaker, watching his aoe rune and purging his buff, OT and healer stay in location.

Then fight the little guy. All three bsoses have damage increased 25% when a boss dies, and they're put back to full health, so no point in dps'ing any but the main focus. OT should have interupts (warrior preferred) because little guy is interuptable and stunnable. 25 man suggest maybe adding a rogue to help?

Kolgorath - Bridge guy - Two arms and himself. Left arm does nature damage, easily heal throughable (Fyi this is a heal INTENSIVE fight... but they all are). Right arm needs to be dps'd hard and should be priority. MT tanks Kolgorath. Right arm will grab someone and crush them (5k damage a second, insta-death after 10 seconds). Can be forced to drop a person if you hit the arm. But since all dps is prioritizing on it, it should be easy. WHen it dies, Kolgorath takes the full damage (600k). Then dps focuses on Kolgorath. Earth elementals spawn from the deada arm and need to be picked up by OT and aoe'd down.

Also, MT will get a debuff from Kolg, lasts 10 seconds, stacks, if he gets 2 stacks, switch tanks to clear it.

Right arm respawns, repeat downing arm.

Also does an eye beam (focuses on a random player, does aoe damage around them, like beam in Halls of Stone). Person who gets beam should move across teh platform, away from other people. Easy to keep ahead of.

And... that's all the fights I know.
Kimira
QUOTE (Flufffy @ Apr 22 2009, 03:45 AM) *
Give me a call around 5 Central time or I'll go on your vent and explain some things that I know.

Will do. I'll call and give you the vent info. Thanks Zorykins.




Euo and Kevin,

OMG...!!!! Thank you SOOOOO Much for writing all that out. You have no idea how much I appreciate it. Like I said, I prefer actual explanations from people I know and trust, than a website. So thank youuuuuu.... <3<3<3
euology
I definately recommend on of your priest healers be deep holy and one be disc. Other healer can be anything tree or shaman. 3 healers is perfect for 10man, 4 is overkill as you may not have enough DPS to make stuff die before timers.

If nobody in your guild has ran a disc healer build feel free to use my alt spec as an example. It's a sweeeeeeet spec, but the glyphs are required for it to work properly.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents...tabilis+Kruoris

linky to my talents/glyphs on armory.


Whoever takes this build should be assigned to tank heals. They can keep a tank up by themselves for the most part and can shield and quickly flash heal the rest of the raid at the same time if heals are tight. This is a continual casting healer, I almost never ever stop casting.

Our MT said he was absorbing up to 10k damage. I can only asume it's because of the shield glyph with crit successions flash heals or penance and the activation of aegis all at the same time. So Aegis got a huge boost while the tank was already sheilded.

Flash heal, Penance and sheild is a Disc priests major uses. If the Disc Priest has alot of haste, Greater heal is another major spell to use at that point too. Greater Heal I used on tanks often but it seems to consume more of my mana. I finally figured if I Flash heal (or Penance) enough to get the heal bonus stacked on the tank then I could Greater heal with a nice bonus on him.

Disc priest + holy priest healing a raid is awesome. I by no mean top the heal meters but I'm sick at multitarget fast heals and protection and single target keep alive heals. The only thing I kept forgeting I had was Pain Suppression and wish I had remebered to use it a couple times. I could have saved the tree who got insta pwnd twice by lazer beams (she plays from Austraila so is prone for lag issues).
Baeron von Bleat
QUOTE (euology @ Apr 22 2009, 03:20 PM) *
I definately recommend on of your priest healers be deep holy and one be disc. Other healer can be anything tree or shaman. 3 healers is perfect for 10man, 4 is overkill as you may not have enough DPS to make stuff die before timers.

If nobody in your guild has ran a disc healer build feel free to use my alt spec as an example. It's a sweeeeeeet spec, but the glyphs are required for it to work properly.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents...tabilis+Kruoris

linky to my talents/glyphs on armory.


Whoever takes this build should be assigned to tank heals. They can keep a tank up by themselves for the most part and can shield and quickly flash heal the rest of the raid at the same time if heals are tight. This is a continual casting healer, I almost never ever stop casting.

Our MT said he was absorbing up to 10k damage. I can only asume it's because of the shield glyph with crit successions flash heals or penance and the activation of aegis all at the same time. So Aegis got a huge boost while the tank was already sheilded.

Flash heal, Penance and sheild is a Disc priests major uses. If the Disc Priest has alot of haste, Greater heal is another major spell to use at that point too. Greater Heal I used on tanks often but it seems to consume more of my mana. I finally figured if I Flash heal (or Penance) enough to get the heal bonus stacked on the tank then I could Greater heal with a nice bonus on him.

Disc priest + holy priest healing a raid is awesome. I by no mean top the heal meters but I'm sick at multitarget fast heals and protection and single target keep alive heals. The only thing I kept forgeting I had was Pain Suppression and wish I had remebered to use it a couple times. I could have saved the tree who got insta pwnd twice by lazer beams (she plays from Austraila so is prone for lag issues).


Oooh ooh... bah, have to find my friend's Disc build to see how it compares... one moment...Murrin
Does that work?

Yes, a feisty dwarf, but man, I've never seen anyone who heals better. And now... yes, he's just disgusting. And he does top the heal meters...
euology
I was a close second to the deep holy priest and I'll admit I was rather rusty and continually hit the wrong buttons. Shocked we survived at all LOL.

Looks similar just he has PI and DP and I picked up Imp Renew. He should really swap that party heal glph out for flash heal. Leave aoe heals to the aoe healers heh biggrin.gif
Baeron von Bleat
QUOTE (euology @ Apr 22 2009, 03:54 PM) *
I was a close second to the deep holy priest and I'll admit I was rather rusty and continually hit the wrong buttons. Shocked we survived at all LOL.

Looks similar just he has PI and DP and I picked up Imp Renew. He should really swap that party heal glph out for flash heal. Leave aoe heals to the aoe healers heh biggrin.gif

I've passed that along, and I'll be sure to figure out his response! But I think he covers a lot of the "oh shit" moments. And I'm not sure what his other logic is, but he probably has thought out everything knowing him... he's a cruncher.
Baeron von Bleat
Eh-hem... Quote Murrin "Kek.

Flash heal is used for raid healing! Same as the AoE heal. Power Infusion is fun spell, Divine Protection is just awesome. I make quite a bit of use out of those talents and find I don't really use renew very often. I actually switched out a Improved Renew Glyph that would cause it to heal more in a shorter amount of time. But found that in my general healing rotation its very hard to get up on the target and its not all that powerful.

I use Prayer of Healing fequently. If there is AoE damage hitting the entire raid its the best spell I have to counter that damage. Flash heal won't cut it. Flash heal is more for intermitent damage that hits a small number of people. When I'm tanking healing its Penance and Greater Heal. Greater heal just does more HPS.

Shield -> {wait for damage, or cast renew / prayer of mending} -> penance -> greater heal -> greater heal -> penance -> greater heal -> greater heal -> Shield -> {start all over again}

Thats my rotation for if the tank is taking insane damage, ala patchwerk. On most fights I can slow it down and use greater heal less, or pop off a flash heal on someone else in the raid.

So while yeah, I certaintly do make use of flash heal, I don't think I need the glyph for it though. Glyph just lowers the mana cost, and if I'm using it its most likely I'm not burning much mana anyway, otherwise I'd be more focused on the tank."
euology
Good nuff reasons biggrin.gif We just have different heal styles.


Penance or Flash healx3 = Grace procs for a 9% increased healing effectiveness, and quickly gives your target a bump in their HP. Possibility to proc Divine Aegis (damage absorber) on each blast from Penance/Flash heal. Then, cast Power Word: Shield - absorb all damage on your target for a time and mitigate 3% of damage taken on the rest of the raid. Gain Borrowed Time buff for using PW:S, increasing your haste and allowing you pull out a very fast Greater Heal with a 9% increase on healing (Gracex3), and a 4% increase to crit (Renewed Hope). Most likely you'll proc Divine Aegis again, and your target should be fully recovered.

Prayer of Mending has a chance to proc Divine Aegis on any party member it jumps to if it gives them a critical heal, which should be very likely. Also, with PW:S reducing raid damage by 3%, and simultaneously increasing haste on your next channelled spell, you can immediately follow it with a very fast Prayer of Healing, giving your raid healer an edge when recovering from heavy, raid-wide damage.

I use Prayer of Healing if needed, but Flash heal/Penance is just more worth it for the heal bonus on that target IMO. Unless the tank is taking huge consistant spike damage, I can normally manage the shield and at least 2 stacks of Grace to prep him for a fast and large greater heal.

Honestly looking at our last combat log, the other priest's primary spell casts were CoH and PoH and renew. Mine were flash heal, greater heal and PoM. But I know for a fact I was over-using Greater heal when Penance should have been used but meh. Rusty rusty healer I be, I only heal 10mans, so I'm sure I'll figure it out.

Took out iron council tonight, and the chick that walks the circle. Tho, funny story we wiped a few times on Iron Council got 2 of them down and had the caster up (yes the rune caster). Heh..we fail at strat reading so his little summons he brings in when he's alone , killed us...no no... pwnd us. We had no idea what had happened and were relatively stunned. Looked at a strat, went... OH... would have 1 shot the encounter after that, but we had a bad combo where the power rune went under the big guy the moment he cast his Fusion Punch on the tank. So tank imploded, it was kinda funny really.
Baeron von Bleat
QUOTE (euology @ Apr 22 2009, 07:44 PM) *
Good nuff reasons biggrin.gif We just have different heal styles.


Penance or Flash healx3 = Grace procs for a 9% increased healing effectiveness, and quickly gives your target a bump in their HP. Possibility to proc Divine Aegis (damage absorber) on each blast from Penance/Flash heal. Then, cast Power Word: Shield - absorb all damage on your target for a time and mitigate 3% of damage taken on the rest of the raid. Gain Borrowed Time buff for using PW:S, increasing your haste and allowing you pull out a very fast Greater Heal with a 9% increase on healing (Gracex3), and a 4% increase to crit (Renewed Hope). Most likely you'll proc Divine Aegis again, and your target should be fully recovered.

Prayer of Mending has a chance to proc Divine Aegis on any party member it jumps to if it gives them a critical heal, which should be very likely. Also, with PW:S reducing raid damage by 3%, and simultaneously increasing haste on your next channelled spell, you can immediately follow it with a very fast Prayer of Healing, giving your raid healer an edge when recovering from heavy, raid-wide damage.

I use Prayer of Healing if needed, but Flash heal/Penance is just more worth it for the heal bonus on that target IMO. Unless the tank is taking huge consistant spike damage, I can normally manage the shield and at least 2 stacks of Grace to prep him for a fast and large greater heal.

Honestly looking at our last combat log, the other priest's primary spell casts were CoH and PoH and renew. Mine were flash heal, greater heal and PoM. But I know for a fact I was over-using Greater heal when Penance should have been used but meh. Rusty rusty healer I be, I only heal 10mans, so I'm sure I'll figure it out.

Took out iron council tonight, and the chick that walks the circle. Tho, funny story we wiped a few times on Iron Council got 2 of them down and had the caster up (yes the rune caster). Heh..we fail at strat reading so his little summons he brings in when he's alone , killed us...no no... pwnd us. We had no idea what had happened and were relatively stunned. Looked at a strat, went... OH... would have 1 shot the encounter after that, but we had a bad combo where the power rune went under the big guy the moment he cast his Fusion Punch on the tank. So tank imploded, it was kinda funny really.

Bah, I said as much in my winded explanation! Ran my 10 man group last night, from start to finish (3 hour run) first time for most bosses, (in fact everything except Razorscale).

Did leviathan, didn't repair before hand, and we got two achievements (didn't break turrets and the not repairing one!), one shot razorscale (got achievement for him only going in air once), did Ignis (three shot, OT was trying to figure out the adds cuz being in the fire is confusing). Third time was very easy, everyone was hot pocketed at some point biggrin.gif cept tanks <.< But anyway, we got that achievement + I had to dual kill two of the adds in the water, so that was an achievement too!

Three shot Kolgorath (yah, learning experience there. Apparently dps can run through him and die >.< And we worked out with our Feral druid tanking the adds, and our MT and OT just focusing on switching him. Very easy that way).

Two shot on Council (first shot was total fail after first fusion fist because our priest wasn't expecting huge debuff ticker), second shot, our druid healer was dying a lot to... I dunnoe what. Not getting out of the green rune. But everyone else did stuff well, ok, we had to use battle rezzes on a few dps, but we got back on track, kept to my order. DPS was slacking due to deaths and such (And I spot healed while the druid was down), ended up hitting enrage timer with the little guy, downed him 10 seconds later (enrage timer does affect him while he's flying apparently, go ranged shaman FTW!)

Either finishing tonight, tomorrow, or monday. Will update later. My strategies were pretty solid biggrin.gif I think there was an achievement from giant, but can't remember.
euology
Gawd! Total failsauce tonight for our 25man raid.

So freakin disapointing. I just don't know what the freaking deal was, everybody was just totally off their game.

Took us 3 attemps for Flame Levithan. Ok we kept a tower up, but still. How hard is it to make sure the demo gunner gets launched TOOOO Flame Leviathan. If your being chased fine I understand that, wait till after to launch, but if your not. WTF?!! Also, why OH why! if your a ranged attack vehicle would you proceed to stay in the same place? That place being WAY to close to Flame Lev. Is it to hard to move? or heck, back up and shoot? .... sleep.gif /grumble

Last week we practically one shotted Razorscale, think maybe 3 attempts the 3rd being his death...... Tonight? 2 solid hours of wiping to Razorscale. Hell we had people die, 10 sec into the fight. How hard is to remeber, FIRE BAD and to pay bloody attention.... Oh no I got hit by a fireblast from the dragon, a healer better heal me, oh no I got hit again and now I'm dead. Everybody got a health stone, and hell, I was even running around sheilding people. I have no idea why so many people were dying tonight on this fight. It was just, ..... grrr stupid. People crying because they died to a chain lighting from the adds, ok why the HELL was everybody grouped up then?????? I mean... GAH!!

/end rant

Edit:

Oh! and does anybody have a good Titan Grip fury warrior build for lvling/solo'ing? I think I'm going to lvl my warrior finally and I had a pretty decent talent set up for her right after 3.1 (pulled from the web) but after the talent reset I couldn't find the page again sad.gif
Baeron von Bleat
So yeah, my guild finished up our Heroic Nax run last night (Saph/KT) and then we moved on to VOA (25 man, one shot), and then we put it to a vote, and did Ulduar.

I was supposed to be launched at Leviathan, and it bloody took my guy forever to launch me... grr.

And then I had no one around to pick me up afterwards, I ran for the nearest demolisher, but that was fail.

Still we one shotted.

Then we spent an hour wiping on Razorscale.

It doesn't help when two of your raid healers are the worst people to move out of the fire. And we had a hunter doing the harpoons, but with the raid healers dead, no one could toss him heals so he always went down.

And someone suggested we clump the adds together, so we were aoe'ing them down, but we'd have some melee die when too much fire clumped in that area at the same time.

Very ugly.

We were doing it 23 man, so I think we could have had an extra healer and dps to even things out, but it was very sloppy.

I really have to tweak my elemental shaman at this point, he's not putting out the numbers (is anyone seeing casters top the dps anymore? I've seen melee dps skyrocketting, while spell casting dps is in the pits...)

We had another 10 man Ulduar scheduled Saturday, but now one of the tanks and two of the healers can't do that, so that'll likely be more headache, but I have a "pretty date" scheduled, so I can't help unfortunately.

After last night's fiasco, I don't see much hope with our 25 man run. At least when it comes to Razorscale, Korgorath, Iron Council.... and pretty much any other fight where people have to pay attention and move if they're in an aoe spot (lazer eyes, nature rune, fire).
euology
Finally! Deconstructor, Iron Council and Kologarn down on 25man. Got 1 attempt in on

/dance

And I replaced my Sanctum of Flowing Vestments (off Sath 2D) with Robes of the Umbral Brute (Kologarn) .. mmmm so pretty
Baeron von Bleat
QUOTE (euology @ Apr 27 2009, 12:10 AM) *
Finally! Deconstructor, Iron Council and Kologarn down on 25man. Got 1 attempt in on

/dance

And I replaced my Sanctum of Flowing Vestments (off Sath 2D) with Robes of the Umbral Brute (Kologarn) .. mmmm so pretty

Well that's fantastic.

Not a great week of raiding for my guild. We didn't have enough on last night to continue 25 man ulduar, and I was feeling like death warmed over, but we got a second 10 man group in. That didn't go very well. Healer ok, Tanks pretty good, dps miserable. Just, miserable. When you have an elemental shammie putting out 1.2k dps, a hunter putting out 1.7k dps out of your 5 dps... you're not going to make it.

Had an 8% wipe on Deconstructor, and a 45% wipe on razorscale as our best attempts. Lesson learned, split up the good group to run both runs.

But it's just kind of embarrassing that some people haven't figured out rotations yet to do these fights. And that elemental is in half resto half dps gear. Seriously.

And I was in Azuremyst vainly fighting a thousand people or so for eggs, that was fun too.

Grr. Not while sick, never again while sick.

Anyway, woke up sort of ok today, went to Azuremyst, yah, no on there (ok, 6 people), got about 200 eggs or so in 15 minutes. I just have to clean up some achievments (flowers in desert and lay an egg in Ulduar) and I'll get the title! First one yet! I hate these holiday things. Go crazy to get achievements.

I might start grinding out the rest of my exploration/quest achievements, and put a real dent in my to-do list.

My good 10 man group is running today, hopefully we'll down the rest of Ulduar. Optimistic!

25 man group needs a lot of work. IE: Everyone's dps has to top the 2.8k mark, 2.4k minimum, and anyone else has to train to be better, or be kicked from guild, or just not expect to come on raids. I know that sounds harsh but seriously, you've all got 25 man nax gear for everything, there should be no reason to be underperforming.
euology
QUOTE (Baeron von Bleat @ Apr 27 2009, 09:51 AM) *
Well that's fantastic.

Not a great week of raiding for my guild. We didn't have enough on last night to continue 25 man ulduar, and I was feeling like death warmed over, but we got a second 10 man group in. That didn't go very well. Healer ok, Tanks pretty good, dps miserable. Just, miserable. When you have an elemental shammie putting out 1.2k dps, a hunter putting out 1.7k dps out of your 5 dps... you're not going to make it.

Had an 8% wipe on Deconstructor, and a 45% wipe on razorscale as our best attempts. Lesson learned, split up the good group to run both runs.

But it's just kind of embarrassing that some people haven't figured out rotations yet to do these fights. And that elemental is in half resto half dps gear. Seriously.


Oiy. sorry to hear that sad.gif

QUOTE (Baeron von Bleat @ Apr 27 2009, 09:51 AM) *
And I was in Azuremyst vainly fighting a thousand people or so for eggs, that was fun too.

Grr. Not while sick, never again while sick.

Anyway, woke up sort of ok today, went to Azuremyst, yah, no on there (ok, 6 people), got about 200 eggs or so in 15 minutes. I just have to clean up some achievments (flowers in desert and lay an egg in Ulduar) and I'll get the title! First one yet! I hate these holiday things. Go crazy to get achievements.



1. Go install the bejeweled wow addon. 2. There's a rock on the north side of the watch, stand in the bush so your standing on the egg that spawns there (makes others have a hard time clicking as they click you, you can't click yourself) and keep your camera behind you and to tilted a bit so you can see the other side of the rock, you can reach the egg that spawns there too from the bush.

I only have to cover a few more races in flowers and, plant some flowers in the desterts and then go lay an egg.

QUOTE (Baeron von Bleat @ Apr 27 2009, 09:51 AM) *
I might start grinding out the rest of my exploration/quest achievements, and put a real dent in my to-do list.

My good 10 man group is running today, hopefully we'll down the rest of Ulduar. Optimistic!

25 man group needs a lot of work. IE: Everyone's dps has to top the 2.8k mark, 2.4k minimum, and anyone else has to train to be better, or be kicked from guild, or just not expect to come on raids. I know that sounds harsh but seriously, you've all got 25 man nax gear for everything, there should be no reason to be underperforming.


We have a few serious straglers in our 25mans too. Most of us are pushing 3.4k DPS and up but our guildies tend to have issues moving and paying attention. We're very SHOOT IT TILL IT DIES!!!!! we always run light on healers which is good, and bad. It's good because we beat most enrange timers by ALOT, but it's bad because we die alot due to lack of heals.

I won't even get into how much fun Iron Council was with 2 healers on Steelbreaker tank, 1 healer per the other OT's and 2 raid healers. Hell we even started it with 1 less and had one of our 2 ele shamans respec.

We're rediculous some days I swear 0_o
Baeron von Bleat
QUOTE (euology @ Apr 27 2009, 10:10 AM) *
Oiy. sorry to hear that sad.gif




1. Go install the bejeweled wow addon. 2. There's a rock on the north side of the watch, stand in the bush so your standing on the egg that spawns there (makes others have a hard time clicking as they click you, you can't click yourself) and keep your camera behind you and to tilted a bit so you can see the other side of the rock, you can reach the egg that spawns there too from the bush.

I only have to cover a few more races in flowers and, plant some flowers in the desterts and then go lay an egg.



We have a few serious straglers in our 25mans too. Most of us are pushing 3.4k DPS and up but our guildies tend to have issues moving and paying attention. We're very SHOOT IT TILL IT DIES!!!!! we always run light on healers which is good, and bad. It's good because we beat most enrange timers by ALOT, but it's bad because we die alot due to lack of heals.

I won't even get into how much fun Iron Council was with 2 healers on Steelbreaker tank, 1 healer per the other OT's and 2 raid healers. Hell we even started it with 1 less and had one of our 2 ele shamans respec.

We're rediculous some days I swear 0_o

I'm considering g'kicking the 1.2k ele shaman. The hunter just joined, and I didn't look at his gear, so I'm sure he'll be fine.

I'm an ele shaman and I take that dps as a personal insult (hell, I explained the basics and advanced details of elemental dps'ing... yes, we took a big hit when 3.1 came out, but he should still be at 2k dps with the gear he has.


Oh, but as far as eggs go! Yeah, I like the advice, but I prefer my way. Well, yesterday I had a forge in Azuremyst, where I was collecting 2 eggs (with occassionaly competition), took me an hour to get 110 eggs.

This morning I went to azuremyst island, with only 7-8 competition, and just ran around grabbing eggs. 200 eggs in 20 minutes, easy. Got all the achievement gear I need, just need to run around flowering and such.

5am in the morning works wonders! biggrin.gif
euology
QUOTE (Baeron von Bleat @ Apr 27 2009, 10:30 AM) *
I'm considering g'kicking the 1.2k ele shaman. The hunter just joined, and I didn't look at his gear, so I'm sure he'll be fine.

I'm an ele shaman and I take that dps as a personal insult (hell, I explained the basics and advanced details of elemental dps'ing... yes, we took a big hit when 3.1 came out, but he should still be at 2k dps with the gear he has.


Oh, but as far as eggs go! Yeah, I like the advice, but I prefer my way. Well, yesterday I had a forge in Azuremyst, where I was collecting 2 eggs (with occassionaly competition), took me an hour to get 110 eggs.

This morning I went to azuremyst island, with only 7-8 competition, and just ran around grabbing eggs. 200 eggs in 20 minutes, easy. Got all the achievement gear I need, just need to run around flowering and such.

5am in the morning works wonders! biggrin.gif


My hubby did the egg hunting the same way you did but in durotar. He pretty much just owned the egg collecting for the whole area. Other people just gave up with him running around nabbing EVERYTHING, LOL.
Kimira
I'm an achievement whore, just really lazy about it. I should have over 500, but lazyness got to me.....I try to focus on too many at once. All my rep, all my BC dungeons that never counted >.>...My gurubashi trinket I managed to delete a year and a half ago or so.....All my quest achievements.....And the pet/mount achievements....It's really bad..... =(

Also, I did the Noblegarden quest yesterday. Finished in 5 hours. I owned Brill. In the bush behind the caravan next to the Town hall steps, has 2 eggs that spawn. Just to the right, there are 3 more bushes. 1 spawns 1, 2 spawn 2. Directly behind you and the stairs (One bush is there) under the Inn, 4 eggs spawn, and to your left and behind you, is the caravan and a wagon where you can get 3. So I was all over that little area grabbing every single egg, it was awesome.
Baeron von Bleat
QUOTE (euology @ Apr 27 2009, 12:56 PM) *
My hubby did the egg hunting the same way you did but in durotar. He pretty much just owned the egg collecting for the whole area. Other people just gave up with him running around nabbing EVERYTHING, LOL.

It's just the best way to do it. Thank god that horrible holiday is almost over. Did I say I hate holiday's in wow yet? Oh, I do. No plot relation, just annoying and frustrating, and I need the damn achievements!

First holiday I'm going to get full completion on this year! Wooh... just have to get the rest done this year, and I won't do them ever again! biggrin.gif
Kimira
QUOTE (Baeron von Bleat @ Apr 27 2009, 07:06 AM) *
It's just the best way to do it. Thank god that horrible holiday is almost over. Did I say I hate holiday's in wow yet? Oh, I do. No plot relation, just annoying and frustrating, and I need the damn achievements!

First holiday I'm going to get full completion on this year! Wooh... just have to get the rest done this year, and I won't do them ever again! biggrin.gif


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