euology
Feb 13 2009, 04:09 PM
Nice

I was really high up for awhile, but as more of the guild geared up I've moved down again.
I know I'm currently very lacking in haste and I need to hit the 250+ mark at some point soon. Hoping to dump some of the healer gear I'm currently running around in with some haste/sp stuff soon.
Then again, I'm also rarely put in the groups I need to be with to get the most benefit from certain buffs either :/
http://wowwebstats.com/yhbnqrlcrig1mLast nights 25 man raid wws parse. I really really need haste, I could settle for 15% unbuffed crit opposed to my 18% if I could get another 100 or so haste. I'm pretty sure I can adjust more gems when more gear comes along to keep my hit at or close to 288. I think I'd be ok at 260 hit as long as I had enough spellpower or haste to compenstate for the misses.
I acutally passed on alot of haste gear last night, kinda wishing I hadn't but honestly I'm a bit broke atm and couldn't afford the needed regem/rechant/rethreading I'd need and other guildies needed the gear more than I.
Baeron von Bleat
Feb 13 2009, 04:27 PM
I'm running into an issue with my Elemental Shammie. I'm crit greedy >.> Yes, Crit is highly important for an elemental shammie, it keeps our mana cost low, it gives more buffs to our damage, and helps our output on damage. But I'm sitting at about 30% crit rating unbuffed, and that's not even counting the specific shammie spells that get increased crit rating (plus Lavaburst which auto crits because flameshock is up).
Should I go with more haste rating? I'm not sure, or more hit rating (I tend to miss maybe once every 20 casts or so) so I never know quite how to balance out, and I do about 3k-3.3k dps (depending on how much I have to move around, dodge, off heal, etc.)
If I'm not concerned about all that stuff, I can clear 3.7k
Nesstar
Feb 13 2009, 06:39 PM
bah crit and spell power is the stat you want most with shammies... being specced into + hit and having your totem down makes it so you need very little +hit....
No dps should really be stacking haste... its fun and all but not the most important stat for elemental.... way better for resto.
Baeron von Bleat
Feb 13 2009, 06:57 PM
QUOTE(Nesstar @ Feb 13 2009, 01:39 PM) [snapback]377179[/snapback]
bah crit and spell power is the stat you want most with shammies... being specced into + hit and having your totem down makes it so you need very little +hit....
No dps should really be stacking haste... its fun and all but not the most important stat for elemental.... way better for resto.
They've changed totem of wrath to no longer have the plus hit, just an fyi. And why do resto and enchancement shamans get totems from Nax, and elemental shamans get stuck with the badge totem?! BLEGH! On the plus side, we'll probably get better loot when Ulduar comes out!
Nesstar
Feb 13 2009, 07:18 PM
theres also that one you can buy from grizzly hills its pretty bad ass
Baeron von Bleat
Feb 13 2009, 07:22 PM
Hmm, not an epic, but I will have to take a look. Perhaps we can save this thing yet!
Richard Lord of the Dance
Feb 14 2009, 04:33 AM
I've got a 48 Undead Mage: kind of looks like Richard. 22 Undead Warrior: looks nothing like Richard. A 23 Dwarf pally: kinda looks like a male Pella.
Anyway, the undead r on Anub'Arak, and the dwarf is on Antonidas.
Venine
Feb 14 2009, 11:57 PM
So, we tried EoE 10 man for the first time today and it was... Interesting. Bearing in mind we had 2 Under-Geared Healers, so I think how far we got was amazing, and tbh me & the RL were very proud of everyone. Setup was as this;
2x Feral Druids - (1 Tank + DPS, both had equal sets of Tank/DPS gear)
2x Holy Priests.
1x Aflliction Lock.
3x Paladins - 2 Ret, 1 Holy.
1 BM Hunter.
1 Arcane Mage.
Me, the mage & the lock got set on spark duty; thank god for 'track Elementals' tbh >.> though the random rift spawn annoyed the hell out of me... 1900 DPS when in Naxx i'm popping 2300? =<.
Attempt 1 - 90% Wipe due to Power Spark reaching Malygos & Breath + Vortex = Pain, even on a 42k HP Bear.
Attempt 2 - 2 Sparks downed, third reached Malygos but we got through it and wiped at 82% due to a bad Vortex & only 1 AoE Healer.
Atempt 3 - 77%, 2 sparks stacked, just a server lag owned us here.
Atempt 4 - 4 Sparks stacked, wiped at 55% due to breath & a sudden lag jump (again - crappy server)
Atempt 5 - Phase 2 reached, wiped with 2 Scions left due to a Healer getting caught outside an anti-magic shield and losing 1 DPS in Phase 1 (Combat ress CD =<) Eventually led to our demise though I'm not sure how =\.
Atempt 6 - 47% After killing all the Scions in phase 2. Decided to call it a day here as we'd reached Stage 2 & were impressed we'd gotten that far.
We talked it over & thought if we'd brought 2 better geared healers, preferably switching the under-geared Priest for a Druid, we'd have probably gotten to Stage 3, or at least killed him. Still, we try again next Saturday & hopefully we'll have 2 decently geared healers with only 1 slacker.
Overall it was a nice run, though I wish I hadn't suggested trying OS after wipe 4 >.> Silly mistake.
Doomlet Omlet
Feb 16 2009, 08:08 AM
I have a level 64 DK and a lv 55 Druid, the druid allowed the creation of the DK.
the last templar
Feb 16 2009, 09:31 AM
still on deployment but just set up a development server on my alienware here on the ship. for some reason the BE spawn is bugged; everything attacks really fast. better than nothing though.
Venine
Feb 16 2009, 05:09 PM
So I PuG Nexus on my Boomkin at 70 and well... it was an amazing run, fantastic, untill Keristrasza.
Seems Shaman don't get the idea about jumping to get rid of a debuff; how difficult is it, to hit your spacebar once every 4 seconds? The tank isn't going to die in that second you spend jumping & not facesmashing your healing wave button.
But no... we get the Healer who doesn't understand what the concept of jumping o remove a debuff is... 3 hours wasted in Nexus today with 3 different groups for nothing but a few bars of rested, wasted experience. Blergh.
Morons.
Morwen
Feb 16 2009, 06:54 PM
i have lots of wow char's but i have bout 4 mains level 64/65 ish night elf hunter, lvl 20 druir also a night elf, a lvl 15 rouge troll and a DK night elf lvl 62 and many of my alts are night elfs or undead cause they are just awsome

And nearly all my char's have weird names
Zoran
Feb 17 2009, 02:10 AM
Fluffybeard hit 70, yay!
Doomlet Omlet
Feb 17 2009, 04:33 AM
My DK is now lv 65 and 1/2 Pst him on US horde Blood Furnace.
Zoran
Feb 17 2009, 02:45 PM
QUOTE(Doomlet Omlet @ Feb 16 2009, 10:33 PM) [snapback]378248[/snapback]
My DK is now lv 65 and 1/2 Pst him on US horde Blood Furnace.
You have failed to provide the name.
Baeron von Bleat
Feb 17 2009, 03:22 PM
I hate DK's. I don't pvp frequently, however I do pvp for Wintergrasp purposes, which are fun and chaotic. I hate how the horde side in our server is half DK's. They're tough as nails to bring down, and then they grapple you, beat you, frost trap you, and then when your about to do somethign another one grapples you and the process begins again, and you're dead before you can do anything. They're a class designed strictly for pvp, where as every other class (except maybe rogues) has their flaws and strategies for PvP, dk's are just uber in every way. May they all rot in hell.
Redington
Feb 17 2009, 03:22 PM
Lvling your pally eh Zoran? What happened to your droodz?
Baeron von Bleat
Feb 17 2009, 04:11 PM
Friday we cleared to Thaddius without wipes, wiped twice on him, and called it (long run as it was).
On Sunday they downed thaddius and Sapphiron, and then failed miserably at KT, I wasn't there at the time <.< But from what I hear, I blame all sorts of problems all over the place. First they only had 4 ranged dps, and the rest were melee (horrible for a KT fight). If someone was MC'd, they'd down them (instead of CC'ing them till they were normal again). Half the dps was dead from a bad ice block in the melee which downed 5 dps'ers at once.
They wiped 5 times before calling it (last attempt took 20 minutes, and the adds were hitting for 70k a hit by the end on the OT's).
So I joined in on Monday, and we downed without anyone dying <.< Fun times. Tonight we're doing Sarth on 10 mans with 1 drake up, and 25 mans with 2 drakes up <.< Yes, I'm scared for the 25 man runs.
Then VoA 10 and 25 mans, followed by grinding through as much of Nax as possible with our 10 man runs. My goal tonight is 3 wings done tonight, but if we cruise fast enough, I sort of hope for a full clear. <.< Fingers crossed, otherwise we'll just clean up tomorrow.
Tonights achievements to look for for Nax - Safety dance, Arachnophobia, Static shock (er, thaddius one where you don't cross shocks), The 100 Club! (We did "Can't get Enough" last week, and Momma said knock you out the week before easy enough

At this point I'm beginning to run into a very real issue that we have too many tanks. like seven at the moment. So unless we start running two 25 man groups, we're just excessive. Yes, four of whom I don't really trust to tank, one of whom I trust to tank only because his gear is great, and otherwise he's a noob, and the sixth is a kid <.< Why are the best players usually 13?
euology
Feb 17 2009, 04:52 PM
We did a full clear of 4 wings of naxx25 on Thursday, the raid leader tried to make a point on saturday by taking us to sapp with 3 healers (asshole). Sunday rolls around and we one shot Sapph and Kel then made a few Maly25 attempts.
Decided to really go at Maly on Monday night, but end up with only 4 healers on again. The assistant raid leader didn't feel like dealing with it and called it.
So..hopefully this Thursday /sigh. We'll raid again. I can only hope we clear as fast as we did last week.

Fuckin hell grrrrr
Baeron von Bleat
Feb 17 2009, 06:12 PM
Our problem with regard to Maly is getting the dps really moving on getting ticks >.<
Some people just don't understand how to do it (ok, many people don't understand).
I'm considering training courses off the practice dragons flying above the instance.
KIMI! What happened on your server! I actually made a DK on Twisting nether, so I guess I can make a new character >.<
Unholy_Twist
Feb 17 2009, 06:58 PM
Meh. We had an officer meeting Saturday and it pretty much ended with the consensus that we won't be doing Maly soon. We just don't have enough ppl that can average 2.5 dps on bosses in Naxx. Apparently that is why our group 2 can't clear Naxx. It's not a gear issue either. I know ppl in our guild are getting the gear they just have no idea how to play their toon. Won't put in time to learn new rotations or builds. Pathetic imo. But that what you get being a casual raiding guild.
Baeron von Bleat
Feb 17 2009, 07:12 PM
We actually kicked someone from the guild yesterday, that was exciting! Ok, so the guild hated him which made it easy. But he's always complaining about getting this item, someone rolling against him for this, this item not dropping, etc. And we're trying to crack down on some of the equipment grief, because, it just makes for really annoying raiding and such.
So we did KT yesterday, one shot, very smooth, so we decided to head over to Malygos for a 25 man attempt. And he boasts on vent "Screw that, I don't need anything from Malygos, I'm not going to help." and he logs off. We have people busting their ass to re-run Nax, and everything else when they don't need anything, we have people passing on slight upgrades just to help everyone else out, and the entire guild is running fairly selflessly, and the last thing we need is some guy who's going to bail just when it's convenient.
If he had to go because it was late, he wanted to go to a diner, had homework, or what ever, that'd be fine, we don't care, we understand. But to dick the guild over because he didn't see any profit in it...
grrr.
So yah, he was removed, and we tried to make sure we covered everything, chat amongst officers to decide if it was the right thing (no one wanted to keep him), opened the chat to the guild for discussion, but it was flat out unanimous! Always helps

And I've figured out Occulus to a T. I've done the Emerald void, and my next attempt will be the Ruby void, and then it's an easy move for the Amber void. Muwahahahah. So many people fear occulus, but it is officially my bitch.
euology
Feb 17 2009, 08:09 PM
QUOTE(Baeron von Bleat @ Feb 17 2009, 02:12 PM) [snapback]378419[/snapback]
We actually kicked someone from the guild yesterday, that was exciting! Ok, so the guild hated him which made it easy. But he's always complaining about getting this item, someone rolling against him for this, this item not dropping, etc. And we're trying to crack down on some of the equipment grief, because, it just makes for really annoying raiding and such.
So we did KT yesterday, one shot, very smooth, so we decided to head over to Malygos for a 25 man attempt. And he boasts on vent "Screw that, I don't need anything from Malygos, I'm not going to help." and he logs off. We have people busting their ass to re-run Nax, and everything else when they don't need anything, we have people passing on slight upgrades just to help everyone else out, and the entire guild is running fairly selflessly, and the last thing we need is some guy who's going to bail just when it's convenient.
If he had to go because it was late, he wanted to go to a diner, had homework, or what ever, that'd be fine, we don't care, we understand. But to dick the guild over because he didn't see any profit in it...
grrr.
So yah, he was removed, and we tried to make sure we covered everything, chat amongst officers to decide if it was the right thing (no one wanted to keep him), opened the chat to the guild for discussion, but it was flat out unanimous! Always helps

And I've figured out Occulus to a T. I've done the Emerald void, and my next attempt will be the Ruby void, and then it's an easy move for the Amber void. Muwahahahah. So many people fear occulus, but it is officially my bitch.
We just don't bring those people or they get perma muted on vent. Our guild is currently talking about basing our guild ranks (ie. invite order) on achievments. IE. To be considered a full time raider you must have the 100 badges ofheroism achievement and such. Part time no achievement and then casual guild member who are just filler if we are desperate. Our guild refuses to pug. Annoys the shit outta me.
Raid leader also won't accept people to respec to a healer class, he won't allow it unless their gear can support it. Which I think is somewhat bullshitty since I can heal really well as a disc build in my Shadow Priesty crit stuff

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I've not run H: Occulus. Ever. Can you believe that. lol
Baeron von Bleat
Feb 17 2009, 08:57 PM
QUOTE(euology @ Feb 17 2009, 03:09 PM) [snapback]378453[/snapback]
We just don't bring those people or they get perma muted on vent. Our guild is currently talking about basing our guild ranks (ie. invite order) on achievments. IE. To be considered a full time raider you must have the 100 badges ofheroism achievement and such. Part time no achievement and then casual guild member who are just filler if we are desperate. Our guild refuses to pug. Annoys the shit outta me.
Raid leader also won't accept people to respec to a healer class, he won't allow it unless their gear can support it. Which I think is somewhat bullshitty since I can heal really well as a disc build in my Shadow Priesty crit stuff

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I've not run H: Occulus. Ever. Can you believe that. lol
Lol, my friend is a Disc priest, and he's like "Well, it has hit rating, but that crit really helps." He has 7.5 shadow helm, and some other stuff, and he ROCKS.
Great healer.
We pug frequently (well, when neeced) which is practically inevitble, cuz we try to run 10 and 25 runs of everything, so people have to be left out or added as needed, and we're getting to the point where we don't need to pug, but we do if it's necessary, anytime

We've just taken to preventing tier rolls, which seems sort of wrong to me, but if the pugs agree to it before joining the raid, not a problem, and we drag people who probably wouldn't get through a third of Nax to the end (and they get 2-3 pieces of gear that no one needs anyway).
It's pretty spectacular.
About 80% of our healers are getting bored with healing cuz it's too easy... and they all have 2nd and 3rd spec sets by now, so I think once dual speccing comes out, we're going to have lots of fun.
My friend and I are working to make our MT obsolete (well geared, not very good at panic situations, or trying new things, or learning stuff) so we're getting a second group with my tank geared, and trying to out achieve his group. We're less geared, but more ballsy

We always support people changing to healers. We just have to be stricter about letting people switch back. We geared you healing, so unless we have the people geared enough to switch in to allow you to switch to dps, you're staying healing.
If we have the extra healers, then don't worry about it.
Doomlet Omlet
Feb 18 2009, 04:05 AM
QUOTE(Flufffy @ Feb 17 2009, 08:45 AM) [snapback]378308[/snapback]
You have failed to provide the name.
Okay... Redo. I have a lv 65 1/2 DK named Runemonger On US Blood Furnace Horde Whisper him when you see him online
viper2003923
Feb 18 2009, 04:33 AM
QUOTE(Doomlet Omlet @ Feb 17 2009, 10:05 PM) [snapback]378784[/snapback]
Okay... Redo. I have a lv 65 1/2 DK named Runemonger On US Blood Furnace Horde Whisper him when you see him online

i saw a runemonger on nazgrel, the server i play on, did you make a character there doom?
Doomlet Omlets
Feb 19 2009, 03:10 AM
QUOTE(viper2003923 @ Feb 17 2009, 10:33 PM) [snapback]378797[/snapback]
i saw a runemonger on nazgrel, the server i play on, did you make a character there doom?
no, he is on Blood Furnace, no where else thats someone elses.
P.S. Doomlet Omlet is no longer operational because i forgot his password
Zoran
Feb 19 2009, 03:17 PM
QUOTE(Doomlet Omlets @ Feb 18 2009, 09:10 PM) [snapback]379197[/snapback]
no, he is on Blood Furnace, no where else thats someone elses.
P.S. Doomlet Omlet is no longer operational because i forgot his password

There is a password recovery.
euology
Feb 20 2009, 01:09 PM
Finally raided again. Ran with 22 in H: Naxx cleared all wings but spider just due to time. Did Thadius with 21 people, but the freakin achievement is less than 21. We fail at reading and it would have forced us to kick someone anywho.
I found a niffty macro so I can overcome my horrid lag, shadow priest DPS'in is all about timeing, and lag makes me pissed!. With no lag and no fat fingering I can out-DPS the macro (on a BOSS dummy) by 50+ to 80+ DPS. But with lag the macro keeps my dps on a good constant. Higher than me accidentally double casting spells and breaking flays because of the latency I always end up having.
We also, FINALLY had a boomkin show up to raid (ok well he's normally feral but we always have 2 feral druids). I was sitting pretty at 28.8% crit too. Whooo!
Patch isn't really the best fight to judge, but at least we don't move.
Patchwerks (last week) -
WWS 3334DPS
Patchwerks (this week) -
WWS 3833DPS
The 2nd Fight was about 20sec longer than the first, mostly due to lack of DPS since we ran short a few bodies. But yea nearly double the MF ticks, that macro is Shadow Priest win if you have lag like I do. Every night, during raid, all the time /faceplant.
Oh and this made me giggle.
http://wowwebstats.com/py5l5fexfvcv1?s=49126-107839Almost hit 3700DPS on sath (1D) and I didn't Mind Sear (AOE'd) any of the flames or welps at all.
We also got the Dance Dance Revolution Achievment off Heigan. I was even at like 300ms Latency, but I survived for once. Fuckin amazing.
Burns my ass some that I can out DPS the macro if I have no lag, but by the time we raid I'm sitting anywhere from 300MS to 600+.
Baeron von Bleat
Feb 20 2009, 04:42 PM
Wow... just wow. I never do that much damage, and I'm pretty much geared. I may have to switch up some crit for haset/hit, and take out some int. On the plus side I finally got my tier 7 helm, so I can replace either my gloves or my chest piece for a Nax run piece. That'll help a lot. I think i'm going to switch to gearing haste/spell power/hit because my crit rating is about 38%, I auto crit with my lavaburst, and I'm not really worried about my other spells.
I am looking to replace my trinket with the trinket from heroic nax tonight... fingers crossed, that'll be a huge upgrade. And I hope to get a tier 7.5 chest/helm tonight if everything goes well.
euology
Feb 20 2009, 06:55 PM
Our Ele shaman kicks me all over the place in DPS. Well... depending on if he dies during the fight, DC's and runs into Gluths room or if our hunters MD him or whatever lol.
I don't know what his rotation is but he seems to hold out around 3800 to 4200 DPS on stand still boss fights.
This is his patchwerk
WWSAnd this is his
GearHe has alot of haste 384, probably why lightnight bolt is his primary dps from the wws. I also noticed he gets resists/misses quite a bit but I think his abundance of other stats makes up for that loss.
I know for Shadow Priests the ratio of hit vs sp is like 1.6 to 1. So if you get enough spell power, you can drop some hit because your damage output will make up for the misses eventually. I'm over cap for hit again if i wear a certain robe, but am under if I wear another. I get more DPS (about 50)from the robe that puts me under hit cap.
Baeron von Bleat
Feb 20 2009, 08:23 PM
I'll be looking at this as soon as I get home.
Doomlet Omlets
Feb 23 2009, 07:07 AM
soo... anyone made a character on my realm yet?
I will remind you lv 66 tauren Dk Named Runemonger on Blood Furnace horde side.
euology
Feb 23 2009, 01:33 PM
Whoo! Finally we downed Maly 25. None the less on our second attempt. Probably would have had it our first, but on Phase 2 for some reason everytime Maly would use his breath, he'd fly down to us and start eating people's faces.
Tho I was plenty pissed for phase 3, I got beamed right at the begining and then again imediately after. Didn't have enough combo points to get another sheild up to save me :/
We so should have had this fight done months ago, but with our consistant lack of healers it's just been impracticle.
Baeron von Bleat
Feb 23 2009, 03:37 PM
Yes, unfortunately my guild has many people (way too many people) that fail on Malygos. Utterly and hopelessly. On the plus side, our GM was forcibly off-line for our 25 man Nax run on Friday, so with a sigh and a shuffle, I lead our 25 man nax >.< We were short on dps, had to pug an elemental shaman (hate him sooo much, he took a few items I needed badly, but I got my 7.5 helm finally! Though my shield dropped and was taken by a pally healer... AUGH!) But yes, it was a one night run. We took from about 7:40 to 12:30 full clear of heroic nax. Few wipes, (maybe 3?) though Globbulus got ugly and was probably a near wipe, and I wasn't at the top of the dps for the overall (as most of the time I was explaining and not dpsing for trash <.<) and our three wipes came from Trash pulls in the military wing

Yes, it's a disorganized group, but what amazes me most isn't our ability organization (it's like a mob of rage and dps), but our ability to pick up a situation where several tanks face pull 4 pulls at a time, sort it out, keep most people alive, and pretty much just deal with it pretty well.
We had a new Pally tank run, who officially became my favorite tank, and the next 10 man I run I think will be a record clear. Tanks need to be paying attention to others mana and the debuffs people get, but that being said, keep pulling!
rofl.
Anyway, we'll probably fail at our attempt on Maly tonight (We get through the first two phases in about 5 minutes, it's just a fact that we fail at phase 3... epicly.
euology
Feb 23 2009, 03:52 PM
Nice!! Just try and burn him as much as possible on Ph2. and get those scions dead. Shadow Priests epicly win for scions. I dot them all by the time mele on disks get to them half are half dead. Will give you much needed extra time on maly PH3.
Baeron von Bleat
Feb 23 2009, 03:59 PM
You misunderstand, we do epicly on phase 1 and 2. Phase 3 we get... maybe 3 people dotting mally over an 8 stack, with half dead from lack of shielding, and the rest get pressured and blasted out of the air due to being gazed at (maly doesn't have the targets to spread the agro arround), and the next thing you know it's a wipe because we ran out of time, or because the last person left can't keep shield and heals up on themselves long enough to last.
euology
Feb 23 2009, 04:03 PM
oh i see.

You should make everbody do the aces high daily right before you make your attempts, it helps some
Baeron von Bleat
Feb 23 2009, 04:55 PM
That is a great idea!
euology
Feb 23 2009, 05:04 PM
QUOTE(Baeron von Bleat @ Feb 23 2009, 11:55 AM) [snapback]381875[/snapback]
That is a great idea!
Also, if you can manage to get at least 1 or 2 people who can do alot of really raelly good debuff stacking (like into the 30's), use a 5th person for a healer. Normally 4 is sufficent but if your having people dying and you have someone who just isn't stacking the debuff well make them heal.
Baeron von Bleat
Feb 23 2009, 05:11 PM
4 healers? Really? We attempted with 3.
Of course we use the 3-3-4-3-4-3-4 method... which I think is pretty fail-tastic.
I think it should be one person 3-4-3-3-3-4-3-3-3-4
two person 3-3-4-3-3-3-4-3-3-3-4
three person 3-3-3-4-3-3-3-4-3-3-3-4
fourth person 3-3-3-3-4-3-3-3-4-3-3-3-4
Keeps four huge healing HoT's on the raid. But grr... <.< We're not always the brightest bunch.
euology
Feb 23 2009, 06:54 PM
QUOTE(Baeron von Bleat @ Feb 23 2009, 12:11 PM) [snapback]381883[/snapback]
4 healers? Really? We attempted with 3.
Of course we use the 3-3-4-3-4-3-4 method... which I think is pretty fail-tastic.
I think it should be one person 3-4-3-3-3-4-3-3-3-4
two person 3-3-4-3-3-3-4-3-3-3-4
three person 3-3-3-4-3-3-3-4-3-3-3-4
fourth person 3-3-3-3-4-3-3-3-4-3-3-3-4
Keeps four huge healing HoT's on the raid. But grr... <.< We're not always the brightest bunch.
We just kinda go at a free for all, normally 4 people for heals the rest dps. I know one of our druids (DPS) does 2 stacks at a time, he got it up to like 28 or something last time. But he also doesn't shield either, he just prays he doesn't get hit twice in a row.
Another thing that will help is to designate someone as the "follow" person. Have everybody else in the raid make a macro to do /follow NAME. Hit it right as you fall on to your drake and it should ensure that everybody is following the same person

Note this won't work if they are using the built in UI or do not know how to bind other keys to use something. If this is the case they ca pre-type /follow NAME
Unholy_Twist
Feb 24 2009, 04:22 PM
I think I've about had it with my guild and am probably going to go ahead and find another. It just sucks that it was all my idea and I've made great friends in it.
We have enough people to do 25 mans but not all of them are into raiding and many have a problem showing up on time or at all. But no one really wants me to mass recruit because because we have no room in our two 10 man groups. So we just pug what we need if we need andything and then go about our way destroying Naxx. Grp 1 can run it in one night with no wipes if they wanted to but Grp 2 needs 3 days. Apparently they can't dps for shit. A rogue who is also our warlock in G1 went with them last night and was their third highest dps at 1.4 and he is seriously undergeared atm.
The big problem I'm having is we have enough geared and high dps to attempt Maly on 10 man. Most of us want to but we also need some of the people from G2. When I brought this up to the G2 leader who btw is a guild officer because she brought six people, including herself into the guild when they merged, lost her freaking mind. She got attitude with me thinking I was trying to steal one of her raid days. When I assured her this wasn't the case she still had attitude and told me to put it on the calender and she would make time to try it. Ten minutes later she said "I just want you guys to understand that if I decline the invitation for the run it is because I don't want the guys in my group to be upset or have hurt feelings because a few of us are doing something they can't". It wouldn't have been a big deal at all to her except the fact that atleast 6 members of her group are her family. Husband, kid, best friend, friends, etc. She stated before we started that she had to raid with them in the even of multiple groups because they had several computers and it would cause issues with vent. Ok whatever. But this doesn't explain why she is not willing to try and do other things.
It's frustrating because imo and another officers (we have 4 total) that this person basically has her own little mini guild going on. Like she is basically joined our guild and got the people she needed for the next step and that's all she needs for now.
And apparently some people are getting pissed off at the GM because he doesn't communicate anything to us and it was always when we ran we passed on stuff we didn't need so he could DE and put in Gbank. We have to buy things at half price if we need them. Apparently this other person and her mini guild don't donate jack shit to the bank but buys things at half price. I know almost all the dream shards, Cosmic Essence, Infinite Dust, and Abyss Crystals in our Gbank ( and it is ALOT) are in there because of a handful of people. Apparently while I was leveling my shaman this was talked to with him and he basically ignored it.
This isn't even all of but I know it is a wall of text so I'll take a breather. Sorry for the QQ but I am so frustrated. Enough so that I may not run Naxx at all tonight.
viper2003923
Feb 24 2009, 04:30 PM
i understand twist i had a guild kinda like that before too, i did everything, recruited a buncha ppl, but the GM wouldnt give a rats ass about whats happening under his nose.....
Unholy_Twist
Feb 24 2009, 04:43 PM
QUOTE(viper2003923 @ Feb 24 2009, 10:30 AM) [snapback]382665[/snapback]
i understand twist i had a guild kinda like that before too, i did everything, recruited a buncha ppl, but the GM wouldnt give a rats ass about whats happening under his nose.....
That's exactly it! This guild came about because the GM and I were in three guilds together and we didn't like how they were ran. I approached him and asked if he would be interested in starting one. I had plenty of gold and would throw down on stuff and he finally agreed. Said he had been thinking the same thing. He actually spent more gold then I did which surprised me. He really threw himself into it. We made him GM because he was 80 and my only toon on the server was about 70 at the time. We brought in people we knew from various guilds we had run with and been a part of. Then I seriously got to recruiting. Got to seroius leveling. Three weeks after we got the charter signed we had enough people to start running 10 mans. A certain handful of us built the gbank up (GM did too) with mats and what not, one of Alchemists filled the Gbank with pots for raids. And it is just from that one little group that do nothing. they make their own pots, keep their greens andshards and so on. It's just rediculous.
We were going tot try Maly Wed. night but our GM is our MT in our 10 but has an 80 priest so he has been healing G2 that last couple of nights. We just got a new priest that is raid ready and decent but G2 won't give him a try unless she absolutely has to.
Whatever happened to guild loyalty and the guild actually being like a pixelated family?
viper2003923
Feb 24 2009, 04:57 PM
QUOTE(Unholy_Twist @ Feb 24 2009, 10:43 AM) [snapback]382669[/snapback]
Whatever happened to guild loyalty and the guild actually being like a pixelated family?
thats kinda one of the reasons i left my old guild to join the one im in on chil now, the guy that started the guild i was in used to drink more often than a dwarf during brewfest, im all for a few brews every now and then, but he was like drunk every night! that plus he got into a drunken arguement and pissed a few of us off, so we left and made the guild im in now......
Unholy_Twist
Feb 24 2009, 05:15 PM
Yea that always sucks. Thankfully it's been awhi;e since I have been in a guild where the GM was a drinker or stoner. We have them in our guild but you'll get that anywhere. As long as it doesn't cause issues within the guild or the raid I'm fine with it. Start causing problems and I have to kick people. And I'll kick an excellent player if he is the cause of the problem over a mediocore one that is trying.
I think the GMs of the first two guilds were both Bi-Polar or something. They fought constantly with guildies for no reason. And then the last one seemed to be only certain people doing anything. We vowed not to become like that. Yet here we are doing some of the things I just don't agree with
I'm not going to start another guild though. I just don't have the heart for it. To much time and soul would be wasted already just by leaving this one. Besides on Akama you're just going to get the same people unless they found a place with one of the top 5.
euology
Feb 24 2009, 06:38 PM
The guild I'm currently with (and have been with in one form or another) have been together for well over 10years now.They are a tight knit group and I'm very happy to be apart of them.
I've had my fair share of drama tho, was a GM of a very large guild (
ORR) back in the 40man raid days, but since we just never managed to get 40 dedicated people we ended up being the lvling/gearing guild of the server for a slew of people that went on the bigger and better things. At first I hated it, but after awhile I just accepted it but hated the fact I couldn't raid.
After a giant blow out with some RL friends who joined us I finally handed the guild over to another and /gquit
Joined up with a 40man raiding guild called
Quiet Professionals and raided dedicatedly as a healer till BC hit. The guild broke up and a good chunk split off to form
Notabilis Kruoris the guild I'm currently with.
Baeron von Bleat
Feb 24 2009, 06:44 PM
So I'm determined that our warlock's greed for personal dps is choking off the raid dps.
They use curse of agony, both of em. Which is a lovely curse, does fun damage, etc. I don't even know what it does.
But I know what it doesn't do. It doesn't lower the target's resistance to Fire/Shadow/Nature/Frost, or add 10% spell power to spell attacks.
And I'm sure their lovely ticking spell does less damage then a combined 10% extra from all the caster dps (mages, boomkin, ele shaman, shadow priest, and yes, other warlocks).
They're bloody meter readers is what they are!
Grr... it's like an elemental shaman refusing to drop a wrath of air totem because he wants to increase his personal dps, so he drops a flame totem every time!
Richardsrabbit
Feb 24 2009, 09:29 PM
Im playing a lvl 80 Balance druid called Zenanor (on Zenedar)
Some people think im an addict but thats not true i just use my playtime carefully

They also says that i have too many titles......
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