Verbose
Apr 25 2008, 07:26 PM
QUOTE(Emi @ Apr 26 2008, 02:01 AM) [snapback]194697[/snapback]
Spell Haste lowers your instant cast GCD (this was a patch change a while back), which makes it good for druids.
Yeah, but you need to stack it pretty heavily for it to become remotely as useful as it is to a resto shaman. They get the most benefit, followed by priests and then pallies. Druids are a distant last place.
QUOTE(Sayuri Kajira @ Apr 26 2008, 04:48 AM) [snapback]194720[/snapback]
Yes, but I am refreshing water running uphill. Not like those stagnant bastards on Boulderfist.
It's a shame Blackrock doesn't really like to drink water.
Sayuri Kajira
Apr 25 2008, 08:31 PM
No, I suppose "firewater" isn't really water. But it carries the name. So... that should count... right?
Verbose
Apr 25 2008, 09:06 PM
In a perfect world.
TheLostPalidin
Apr 26 2008, 01:46 AM
Im a noob...its sad, im a lvl 25 BE pally playing on the server Boulderfist and i have already earned a name for my self within my guild <evoulutionary breakout>. Im called The lost Palidin. im also a tank in training(nicer way to say noob).
Vegos
Apr 26 2008, 04:54 AM
Wiping on Curator is so demeaning.
And the fact that we were undermanned and that our main healer DC'ed in the middle of the battle, doesn't really change that...
Verbose
Apr 26 2008, 05:10 AM
I remember wiping on Curator.
PuGing is the worst.
Vegos
Apr 26 2008, 05:13 AM
Ironically, the only way out of PuG's is to be in a lot of them.
Verbose
Apr 26 2008, 05:28 AM
Not me. I was pretty consistently guilded from a week after I hit 60.
I just tend to be sporadic in my communications with guildmembers I don't know. I never remember which ones liked me and which ones found me unbearable.
Vegos
Apr 26 2008, 05:48 AM
QUOTE(Verbose @ Apr 26 2008, 07:28 AM) [snapback]194901[/snapback]
Not me. I was pretty consistently guilded from a week after I hit 60.
Me too, but I was in one of those "guild I'm in just so I don't get constantly bothered by people saying 'wud u plz sign my charter plz plz' and stuff like that" type.
Wise Goblin
Apr 26 2008, 06:32 AM
Im a level 300 human shaman!
Before you ask me if I have played, yes that was a joke. The sad part is that some one tried to impress me with that line. I did not have that heart to tell him that he was spewing utter bull shit out of his mouth. He was just a dude from shake and steak so I spared him.
Im a level 67 hunter. That is all you need to know.
Zoran
Apr 26 2008, 06:55 AM
I got me an epic in a Kara run! WOOOO!
And we wiped on prince after! WOOOO!
Vegos
Apr 26 2008, 07:03 AM
QUOTE(Zoran @ Apr 26 2008, 08:55 AM) [snapback]194954[/snapback]
And we wiped on prince after! WOOOO!
Guess "the legions he commands" didn't like you.
In unrelated news, I visited Southshore inside the Old Hillsbrad instance yesterday. And, gotta say, Blizz did a hell of a good job there, I was there just standing for an hour watching Pat Nagle (the fishing quest guy who's in Kalimdor at present time) talk about his dreams. He had a dream about everything - Thrall breaking out, Arthas killing his father, himself becoming a "fishing master of the world" and also all the people there being just imaginary character for others' amusement.
Yup, Pat Nagle knows what he's talking about *nod* And it's even funnier coz his fishing buddy keeps telling him things like "Shut up and fish", "What have you been smoking?" etc.
Zoran
Apr 26 2008, 07:18 AM
QUOTE(Vegos @ Apr 26 2008, 02:03 AM) [snapback]194959[/snapback]
Guess "the legions he commands" didn't like you.
In unrelated news, I visited Southshore inside the Old Hillsbrad instance yesterday. And, gotta say, Blizz did a hell of a good job there, I was there just standing for an hour watching Pat Nagle (the fishing quest guy who's in Kalimdor at present time) talk about his dreams. He had a dream about everything - Thrall breaking out, Arthas killing his father, himself becoming a "fishing master of the world" and also all the people there being just imaginary character for others' amusement.
Yup, Pat Nagle knows what he's talking about *nod* And it's even funnier coz his fishing buddy keeps telling him things like "Shut up and fish", "What have you been smoking?" etc.
Everytime I wanted to go explore I was slapped and told to go DPS in cat form -.-
Vegos
Apr 26 2008, 07:29 AM
Well exploring pays off there. You can get some nifty profession recipes you can't get elsewhere. Well, at least not cheap.
Anyway, evasion tanking FTW...it's always me on Moroes' adds...
Sooba_fan
Apr 27 2008, 06:18 AM
Points to siggy...
In addition to my 70, I have a lvl 31 tauren druid, a 28 BE warlock and a 27 BE mage. I also am slowly working on a shammy, rogue and 2 alliance toons, hunter and warrior, that are either all in mid teens or just around lvl 12 or so.
Ada
Apr 27 2008, 04:24 PM
QUOTE(Zoran @ Apr 25 2008, 10:55 PM) [snapback]194954[/snapback]
I got me an epic in a Kara run! WOOOO!
And we wiped on prince after! WOOOO!
You sound like Owen Hart there, ahem, but anyway.
as of Thursday evening I cant even play WoW anymore, I have a horrible latency issue that thousands of other people around the world have been complaining about and the game is just unbearable, latency spikes between 1000 and 6000 for no reason at all, even sitting stationary in front of the scryer bank in shatt. Meanwhile at the exact same time I'll start up Planetside and play with WoW in the background, WoW will be spiking up to 5000 latency for no damn reason, while Planetside runs at a jolly 100 constant, no spikes, in heavy combat.
I'm honestly actually considering hooking up dial up and see if it affects the dial up connection as well or if its just for broadband, because - and I'm not kidding - if it doesn't affect my dial up connection the game would actually be playable to some degree, at the moment I cant even farm trash mobs without 5 - 8 second delays with occasional huge spikes where it then takes 30 seconds for the connection to catch up and 'fast forward' to whats actually going on.
Verbose
Apr 27 2008, 04:47 PM
Dial-up will be too bad to be playable on any competitive or useful level.
Ada
Apr 27 2008, 09:40 PM
QUOTE(Verbose @ Apr 27 2008, 08:47 AM) [snapback]195275[/snapback]
Dial-up will be too bad to be playable on any competitive or useful level.
If not affected by the same latency issue it would atleast allow me to farm world mobs for mats or work on leveling one of my alts. Granted - I wouldn't want to run through Kara, or any instance on dial up for that matter let alone farm BG's, but having used it before when my broadband connection was down it was slow yet still playable to some degree.
The latency I've been getting on my broadband connection proves to be far from playable to any degree, I'm actually lucky to be able to log on and still talk to people. Playing, in any capacity, is just unbearable. We're talking random spikes of 1000 - 6000 ms, 5 - 10 second delays, often times 30 - 45 second delay and fast forward, if I don't just get disconnected completely.
Blue
Apr 28 2008, 01:20 AM
QUOTE(Zoran @ Apr 26 2008, 02:55 AM) [snapback]194954[/snapback]
And we wiped on prince after! WOOOO!
Me and a Group tried Kara, we wiped a ton on him and I was always the last one alive. They didn't get the idea that you run when you have enfeeble on you.
Bullhead
Apr 28 2008, 02:14 PM
The curator has the most creepy voice in the game. He sounds like a sleazy, elderly sex-offender.
Bullhead
Apr 28 2008, 02:46 PM
Anyway, I remember the first time we did the chess part and I was given the role of one of the towers. I was actually a bit excited until we realized the pawn in front of me was bugged and couldn't move.
Zoran
Apr 28 2008, 04:42 PM
Well we did Kara again and we got all the bosses without a single wipe. Go us

And I got my druid staff from Illihoof so I am a happy druid.
Reptus
Apr 29 2008, 04:17 AM
70 Draenei Priest and Dwarf Paladin.
Haven't played in a while though.
Dracon
Apr 29 2008, 01:46 PM
My seventy druid heals things and eats little level 61's who thought it was a good idea to go into AV without dinging 70.
My seventy hunter shoots things and gets a new pet every week.
Well, that was back when I played WoW.
joelskates
Apr 29 2008, 02:35 PM
<-- 70 Druid
and uhh, two lv.19 twinks, hunter and priest, the hunter doesnt get used much anymore though.
Working on a shammy twink aswell, but due to now being the leader of an end-game guild, i dont have much time to level him.
Blades Edge Server btw.
Zoran
Apr 29 2008, 06:57 PM
QUOTE(Verbose @ Apr 27 2008, 11:47 AM) [snapback]195275[/snapback]
Dial-up will be too bad to be playable on any competitive or useful level.
Not true, on WoW I had dialup for awhile and it worked wondefully! My latency was around 200-800 and was very playable. You do not need like 5 latency to play WoW in a comfortable manner, it would be nice but not really nessesary.
I use Satellite Internet and have a range of 700-1000 latency and any signs of lagg is mainly gone. In PVP I barely notice it and end up second or first place in kills or damage done. Blizzard does very well to have every form of internet connection work.
Vlon
Apr 30 2008, 01:52 AM
I have a 70 shadow priest 52 hunter (pet named sooba

) and a 23 destruction Lock based off richard
mactheknife
Apr 30 2008, 04:07 AM
QUOTE(Death Cultist @ Apr 14 2008, 03:08 AM) [snapback]189452[/snapback]
Theres about a 1/700 chance, but has anyone been on a RP server, I'm VERY curious. Must be a load of DnD themed chatter and stuff based in the Azerothian universe, but I'd like the facts.
I played on a RP server as a tauren for a few days. There was actually a lot of RP'ing. Your basic stuff like "race" RP'ing, ect. I.E. "Hello my bovine brethren! and stuff like that. Also the guild I was in actually required you to have a back story written about your toon to join. I was a shaman, everyone called me "The Good Doctor."
It was pretty fun.
I have a 67th dwarven paladin main on Duskwood.
Verbose
Apr 30 2008, 09:19 AM
QUOTE(Zoran @ Apr 30 2008, 04:57 AM) [snapback]196076[/snapback]
You do not need like 5 latency to play WoW in a comfortable manner, it would be nice but not really nessesary.
I live in a country where the absolute best connection will get you a latency of 200-400.
Mostly we sit between 500-800.
Ada
Apr 30 2008, 10:24 AM
QUOTE(Verbose @ Apr 30 2008, 01:19 AM) [snapback]196257[/snapback]
I live in a country where the absolute best connection will get you a latency of 200-400.
Mostly we sit between 500-800.
You live in Australia right? I believe thats what I read a while back but don't recall.
I have a friend in Australia we used to play Diablo II together so I know where you're coming from, a dial up connection from there connecting to my realm would indeed result in an unplayable environment I'm sure.
I live in Alaska, my realm is on the west coast so dial up would have at the time been better then my broadband due to the latency problems, a slower, yet more stable connection with fewer spikes. Though I'm not much concerned with trying it now as my issues seem to have been resolved and Broadband is again working fine on WoW.. and in the process of trying to fix it myself (turns out problem was as I thought, not with my system or network or even my ISP) I happened to find a registry setting thats improved my normal latency even further.. goodbye 100 - 120 normal latency, helloooo 47 - 70.
Verbose
Apr 30 2008, 03:08 PM
We get punished because of latency, too.
Especially in the newer fights where more precision clicking and movement is required. We have a much narrower window to move and click in than somebody with good latency.
Death Cultist
Apr 30 2008, 09:36 PM
In game lag for me doesn't get worse than 1-3 seconds, but in some situations, my comp has to work too hard and skips a few seconds, sometimes fixing itself, and other times requiring me to restart it, usually in the mid of an instance, or around a mob
My dad's hunter has kept his pet all the way up to 70, its a rare lion spawn in the barrens (Broken Tooth or something) and before a few patches ago, had the game's maximum attack of once a second, pretty damn good when you're trying to eat a few clothies
Raven 2552
Apr 30 2008, 10:57 PM
I hate lag. Worst thing about MMORPG's. Stupid horrible latency....
Winddancer
May 3 2008, 02:21 PM
Well I am a complete newb (and noob I guess) to this game, only just joined last month, but have a lvl 60 draenei holy pally on an EU RP server. So no idea what you are talking about, as I only ever did one dungeon and we didnt even complete that lmao. Though I do hope that I will one day learn all the abbreviations and whatnot O.o
As for lag, well I cant move in Shattrath and the other major cities are painful to walk through, so bah. But otherwise the latency behaves for me.
tarabyte
May 3 2008, 04:07 PM
Lvl 70 Hunter on Shadowmoon, as well as a 48 rogue on the hordie side. They like to call me a horde loving carebear but pvp isn't my thing.
And yes, lag is the devil.
Zoran
May 4 2008, 03:39 AM
QUOTE(Winddancer @ May 3 2008, 09:21 AM) [snapback]197328[/snapback]
Well I am a complete newb (and noob I guess) to this game, only just joined last month, but have a lvl 60 draenei holy pally on an EU RP server. So no idea what you are talking about, as I only ever did one dungeon and we didnt even complete that lmao. Though I do hope that I will one day learn all the abbreviations and whatnot O.o
As for lag, well I cant move in Shattrath and the other major cities are painful to walk through, so bah. But otherwise the latency behaves for me.
Thats bloody impossible.
Verbose
May 4 2008, 03:55 AM
No it's not. I've gotten two toons up past 60 without ever having done any dungeons. Well, one is 64 and the other is only 57 but the one under 60 has more than enough quests to get to 60, maybe even 61 before heading to Outland. Not that I'll bother, once you get to 58 it's more profitable to be in Outland.
They added some quests to help you level a bit but for the most part, there's quests enough around the place you can manage without stopping to grind often at all.
Winddancer
May 4 2008, 02:23 PM
Then I did the impossible? All I have done is quests and 3/4 of one dungeon. I do however play with a good friend, so we zip through those quests. Am however finding Outland hard on my own
Jaezelle
May 4 2008, 03:02 PM
It is definately possible to burn through all your levels doing quests rather than instances. Not as fun, imo, but certainly possible.
Winddancer
May 4 2008, 03:09 PM
Well of course its possible, I did it

(well so far) I am more of a solo player, or play with my friend, I dont really like instances or dungeons as most of the time its filled with morons you have to rely on. And I like doing what I want when I want to and not have to "take orders" from others.
Jaezelle
May 4 2008, 03:25 PM
Well.... seeing as you haven't really done many instances, to be effective and for your group to make it through, you would have to overcome that "taking orders" thing. In general, the one giving instructions knows the instance well, and is simply trying to let you know what you need to do to fullfill your role in the group. Instances are designed to... bring out teamwork in a group of strangers. If one of the group cannot work with the others, then the group will usualy fail to complete the instance.
Winddancer
May 4 2008, 03:33 PM
Oh dont mean I cant take orders in that way. If its organized and the one giving orders knows what they are doing, its fine. I meant more in the way that I like being able to stop when I want to and go where I want to, and you cant really do that in an instance or dungeon, that would get you or the team killed.
I also found that people dont really like newbs. I am REALLY new to this game, I do not know all the abbreviations, hardly know all my spells right (when to use what) and people doing dungeons/instances mostly have NO tolerance for this. They want someone who knows what they are doing. I dont blame them, but does sorta make it hard for new players to try it out.
But anyways, as said, I like questing more and solo'ing, so I guess I can live with not doing them
Verbose
May 4 2008, 06:50 PM
It's not very nice to new people this long into the game.
Your best bet is to get a friend to walk you through stuff. I had a friend level a toon with me up to around 25 when I first started and he explained everything I needed to know. He also got on his high level alt to walk me through instances and explain what I'd need to be doing and where I'd need to do it.
Was very helpful.
Winddancer
May 4 2008, 07:18 PM
QUOTE(Verbose @ May 4 2008, 08:50 PM) [snapback]197608[/snapback]
It's not very nice to new people this long into the game.
Your best bet is to get a friend to walk you through stuff. I had a friend level a toon with me up to around 25 when I first started and he explained everything I needed to know. He also got on his high level alt to walk me through instances and explain what I'd need to be doing and where I'd need to do it.
Was very helpful.
Yea, does sound very helpful, but dont know anyone on this server, other than my friend and she doesnt do dungeons and instances either. So guess I will be questing my way to 70
Unholy_Twist
May 4 2008, 09:19 PM
I just left the guild I was in and went to another that actually seems pretty good on Aegwynn. I picked that server because it was low pop and after playing on Illidan and Dunemaul I wanted to see the difference. Besides that lack of tanks and healers everywhere it differs little to me.
Got my priest up to 65 and will hit 66 in the next couple of days depending how much I play. I'm just wondering when it would be a good idea to go Holy/Disc from shadow? I can atleast quest easily while in Shadowform but I heard it is best to save questing untill 70 brcause of money. I have 3000g right now so money isn't a huge concern. I'm a little lost. I don't even play my Alliance toons on Dunemaul much anymore.
Zoran
May 5 2008, 05:13 AM
QUOTE(Jaezelle @ May 4 2008, 10:02 AM) [snapback]197561[/snapback]
It is definately possible to burn through all your levels doing quests rather than instances. Not as fun, imo, but certainly possible.
I know its possible to ignore all the instances on purpose but. Its very hard for me to see someone new to the game never go into a instance, or only 1 and not go to another. When I started playing I was dragged into an instance without even knowing what I was doing. And was continuously dragged into them with no knowledge of what to do (As I was a level 16 at that time) maybe it was due to my server but still. Its hard for me to believe that.
Verbose
May 5 2008, 08:20 AM
I'm on Blackrock and there's no way in hell you're getting into any kind of instance by accident there.
Everybody levelling there has at least one 70 and for the most part anybody even vaguely talented refuses to pug if they can get a guild.
Winddancer
May 5 2008, 12:28 PM
QUOTE(Zoran @ May 5 2008, 07:13 AM) [snapback]197711[/snapback]
I know its possible to ignore all the instances on purpose but. Its very hard for me to see someone new to the game never go into a instance, or only 1 and not go to another. When I started playing I was dragged into an instance without even knowing what I was doing. And was continuously dragged into them with no knowledge of what to do (As I was a level 16 at that time) maybe it was due to my server but still. Its hard for me to believe that.
Well I am not in a guild and havent really made any other friends on the server, so of course I dont enter an instance or dungeon alone. And the one dungeon I semi did, didnt leave me wanting for more, thats for sure. I almost entered the Alterac Valley one, until I checked on WoWhead and it said it was a 40 man raid

Kinda didnt go in then lol.
And my friend who has been playing for 2+ years, well she is a solo player as well and the dungeon I went to, was the first for her as well, so I am not alone

You really do have to know some people, be it friends or guild to do those things, as doing the Looking for group was disastrous for us LOL. You know you are in bad shape when 2 have never done it before, 1 just wants to yell and scream when you dont do it right (though also didnt say
how to do it right) and the last one is too busy showing off his 3 mounts O.o
Verbose
May 5 2008, 12:30 PM
Warsong Gulch, Arathi Basin, Alterac Valley and Eye of the Storm are all PvP "raids".
You don't get any exp from them, they're battles against other teams of players. Instead of exp, you get honor which is used to purchase weapons and armour.
Sersi
May 5 2008, 01:58 PM
I have a 70 Hunter (Rexxar), 70 Lock (Frostwolf), 70 Mage (Vek'nilash) and 70 Paladin (Vek'nilash).
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