I'm looking forward to the starcraft MMORPG.

Not sure they'll ever make one... and, if they do, they'll have to do something with amazing graphics.

Yeah....I know. Locks are OPed...just stick a rogue on them....Lock= dead every time.

Just remember folks...on upcoming games....screenshots look better than they normally are.

Of course! Especially since the machines on which they they play the games to give us Screenshots are Über machines. My machine is relatively new (read 8 months) and it'll play the game at apparently 80% of the full potential. I'll probably play it at around 50% just to be sure. But it'll still look better than WoW and will give you more than just 6 faces and 8 hair styles per race as well as the option to chose body girth and height. I hate how all WoW characters are always build on the exact same frame.

And Starcraft: Worlds comes out this summer.

Isn't that "Stargate"?

Yeah. my bad. I just got off the Zerg thread.

And I also want a Warhammer 40k MMORPG.

Level 70 resto druid (tree). Semi-retired atm, due to getting tired of dealing with incompetent idiots.

i weep every time WoW loses a good Tank or Healer...... Unless their AC, then I REALLY couldn't care less. In Heroic pugs, I'm really nice for the lock skills (HS, Summon, SS) but affciction really plays second fiddle to just about any other class or spec in a 5-man.

70 Warlock, 70 Druid, 70 Warrior, 63 Priest, 42 Rogue all alliance on Shu'Halo, and a few lower levels between 1 and 30
horde/alliance on Shu'halo and Bladefist.

My original plans when I started out in WoW last year was to roll a Tauren Warrior, just something about being a big hulking meat shield appealed to me, perhaps the same reason my favorite class was Barbarian in Diablo II(who, invincible to everything else, would drop dead in .5 seconds when cursed with Iron Maiden lol).

I ended up trying a Dwarf Warrior because I was rolling with a friend who refused to be horde, didn't like how hard it was being my first class.. I tried a Dwarf Hunter, it was a lot easier but I decided to then try a Gnome Warlock and loved it went straight to 70 with him before I quit for a month (and have since retired the toon) due to relationship issues at the time.

Alliance has a real issue with working together though, and in fact some people on Alliance go out of their way to screw not only the Horde but their fellow Alliance as well and just don't care. On my Battlegroup - Whirlwind - Horde win atleast 95% of all AB, WSG, and EotS. while Alliance only manage to win AV's and still don't win as many of those as the horde do anymore.

The stupidity doesn't end in the battlegrounds though, as many Alliance will go out of their way to steal quests from you. A couple examples: the Skettis daily escort, more often then not an Alliance is going to swoop in and steal the escort from you without asking to group, while you wait for whoever you're grouped with to get there. Or the Ogri'la ray daily, I happened to pull a ray with my druids feral faerie fire (doesn't tag the mob) and a night elf hunter swoops down, lands 2 feet from me and arcane shoots it knowing full well I already pulled it, yeah.. 20 seconds later when she had 5 mobs on her I didn't help.. she died.. I smiled.

Another time also comes to mind when I was soloing the Scryer-Netherwing 3-man daily quest in SMV, an Alliance NE Rogue: "/y Screw Scryers!" and attacks the scryer archers I'm supposed to protect for the daily just because he's an Aldor, I told him I couldn't care less if he screwed an elephant and went on to still complete the daily but his intent - though he failed - was enough to infuriate me to no end.

I cant speak for all realms or battlegroups but in regards to mine the 'Alliance' is a farce, almost everyone is looking out for themselves, the only reason I continue to put up with it is the friends I have playing on my server, while some have quit to play horde most remain for the same reason I do and if it weren't for them I'd do the popular thing and leave it all behind and roll horde full time.

It's funny how so many people complain about Locks being OPed, and sometimes I don't always disagree with them, but having actually played one to 70 I don't find them very hard at all to take down, and with my druid being Resto now in bg's I laugh when they fill me with Dots and I outheal it with Hots and still keep everyone around me up being in mostly blue resto gear. as Feral I'd ambush them and take them out pretty easily unless they were wearing vengeful and pretty well played which like hunters, most locks are not.



Last I heard they were working on one, and if it turns out to be any good I'll probably be replacing Planetside with it, and perhaps WoW too for a while, though I haven't done much looking into it.



As do I, there are far too few tanks on my realm, or healers for that matter, and the ones we do have aren't always that great at what they do. I recently respecced my Druid from Feral DPS to Resto and replaced my feral gear with whatever resto I could get my hands on be it the new rep blues or crafted epics from the AH, I'm enjoying it but the soloing went out the window really and most people have a problem with that.

Sorry bout the long first post, I love to talk lol.

If it ever comes out I know exactly who I'm gonna be. Space Wolves Chapter. 1st Company.

Well, yesterday evening it was the best Kara run I've had with the guild so far. We got to Aran (and killed him) without a single wipe, also one-shotted Nightbane while we were at it. With half the group being pretty new to Kara and still learning - they did a bloody good job for their first time on Nightbane, for example. Only Illhoof, Spite and Prince remain for today. And chess, ofc, but that's not a real boss encounter.

I am ashamed to admit that my guild has not yet been able to kill Spite, closest we got was the 1% wipe (don't you just hate it when that happens?) - hoping to forever change that fact today.

I hit 60 with my druid last night doing Ramparts and got the best compliment ever on my healing as resto druid.

From the druid tank and shaman off tank (we were all 60s with a shadow priest being highest at 61) they said "I would tank Illidan himself with you as our healer. You're friggin awesome"

Keep in mind my bonus healing, compared to healers at my level (squishy healers) is only 230ish. But I hit crit heals quite often and I guess I know what I'm doing compared to others they've hunted with.

We'll be doing Ramparts again tonight (same group...we wiped a couple times on last boss because the tank had never been here before and welll yeah...no amount of mass healing saved us) and possibly BF tomorrow. W00t.

Thankfully I've finally found a decent healer who plays similar hours to me so we have the core healer and tank for a premade. We're both gearing up for heroics, just have to find 3 people to dps for us now. We + a few mates of mine and a warlock did botanica and one of the others over the weekend, only one wipe on botanica on the 2nd to final (plant (not tree)) boss, primarily due to a fuckup by the warlock.

Moral of the story for me, only play with people you know aren't morons and actually listen to instructions.

Yeah. I know how that goes. I play a warlock as my main and it's amazing how many people don't listen on things.

Especially me to healers "DON'T HEAL ME, heal tank and others. I can heal myself"

And i say this repeatedly yet they waste mana on me.

/shrug
The problem with some healers is that they don't understand triage. You gotta choose who you're gonna let die, you gotta be able to decide heal time, heal amount, and mana usage in your head and determine which party member is worth the time and mana to heal. If you can't do all that in the middle of a pull, then you're not really going to be very effective. All that isn't even bringing in the fact that not every pull is perfect. If you've got spare time, and mana, then topping off everyone is ok, but the healers who really struggle are the ones who try to do everything, rather than let the squishy who pulled agro get the pummeling they deserve while keeping the tank alive.
(personally, I'll toss a renew on a lock when I see him/her lifetap- keeps em up through the whole fight, which also keeps their manapool up cause they can tap again)

Ya...a Renew is nice sometimes, or rejuv. But if it's a boss fight and I'm saying "Don't heal me" there's normally a reason for it.

I've had several healers in my former guild let the tank die because they were trying to heal me after I said "HEAL TANK HEAL TANK HEAL>...NVM he's dead...."

someone who gets it! I hate when I die because the healers are all focusing on each other while I'm surrounded by monsters.

My theory is the tank is most important followed by off tank. If a tank -ever- drops below 50% they get my Nature's swiftness, regrowth and swiftmend followed immediately by regrowth again and rejuvenation.

Tank first, off tank 2nd, DPS and self are tied for 3rd. Normally I dont have to heal myself but in the off chance..

If the tank dies, it's the healer's fault.
If the healer dies, it's the tank's fault.

If the dps dies, it's their own damn fault.



Okay, well, not ALL the time, but it's a good rule in general for PUGing. And as a druid healer, trust you me--once you get lifebloom? Your life is going to get much, much better. It's a different style of healing (for one thing, no crits), but it's much more effective, less mana-intensive, and pretty fun (as long as you get some sort of timer to track your lifeblooms for each tank). Lifebloom lifebloom lifebloom rejuv, regrowth + swiftmend when needed, NS+HT when in "OH GOD OH SHIT OH HELL" mode.

Yup I know. My best friend is a druid. Which is why my alt is a druid =)

That and i've seen plenty of "Good" druids in action and a plenty of "dont-know-what-the-fuck-i'm-doing-but-think-I-do" druids in action. The statement preceeding this also pertains to locks. I've taken every -bad- thing they've done and learned from it and don't do it.

The best state ment I got from a former guildmate and "dont-know-what-the-fuck-i'm-doing-but-think-I-do" druid that I don't follow is "You can only cast hots in tree form which makes tree form useless. HOTs are a waste of mana."

Which explains why on the third pull in Steamvaults we died 6 times. Yes. 6. At which point I "disconnected" mysteriously.

Kara is officialy cleared for the first time by my guild. Only one wipe on prince due to impossible infernal placing. Not that the 2nd attempt on him had any easier infernals, but we somehow managed to DPS him down then.

I get to run Kara tomorrow for the first time as DPS tomorrow. I'm glad I finally got my lock up high enough.

This I like, very true as well, If everything goes to hell due to bad threat management by another member, or a bad pull on my part, the person I'm gonna be performing a rediculous last stand in front of, whatever the enemy may be, will be the healer. I'm v happy to have teamed with the healer I have now, she (I'm pretty sure) knows I'm capable to keep threat on me unless everything goes to pot, so she's confident enough to focus heals on me without worrying too much about everyone else.

I do like that tho, if the dps dies its their own dammn fault, lol, invariably true though, if you're stupid enough to pull threat off the tank thats your own life you've just taken into your hands.

If the tank dies, it's the healer's fault.
If the healer dies, it's the tank's fault.

If the dps dies, it's their own damn fault.

Thats my healers slogan. I`m playing a level 70 priest to heal in a lot of dungeons and raids. Also playing a bit of shaman enhancement dps but thats pretty much nothing to mention

I LIKE TO HEAL STUFF... How is that not clear by now?^^

If your looking for my chars:

Amoonsing - level 70 human priest - Emerald Dream - EU
Hiita - Level 70 Drenai Shaman - Emerald Dream - EU

I love being DPS but also love healing. I used to be healer mage in UO and a medic in SWG before going Jedi.

If I think about it, I think I only really enjoy support roles. I've played and enjoyed a warrior, priest and druid, and thoughrouly enjoyed all of them, the only dps class I've enjoyed (of the 4 I've played) is my shammy alt who I got up to 15 from 12 last night once I got bored of BGS on my main. I know why I enjoy the warrior so well, playing prot plays well to my knight in shining armour complex, but the healers I dunno... I guess somewhere in me I just enjoy helping people. Blime, who knew.

I like to kill things. It's a personal statement that has made my life much simpler in retrospect.

I guess me and my dad cover the "cause utter chaos and kill things" side of the spectrum, we both have 70 locks, but he has a 70 hunter, 70 mage (main), a 70 shammy (doesn't play it much) and a few others he forgot in their 40s.

He's only been playing the game for 3 years and hes already run every instance in record time, Kara about 30 times, Gruul's a little less than 10, second boss of TK, and SSC just last week... I'd have to say "alot of free time" is an overstatement.

Jesus. I can't even find time to run em that much, but I do have work and school. That kinda cuts into mt free time.

He does have one of those at-home jobs that lets him sit on his butt and play all day and still support us, and jsut enough time for family game night or w/o my mom's feeling like, so I'd personally call that cheating.

If I had done that, my gf would have kicked me out of the house.

Still working on my Druid's Resto gear, getting pretty much ready to start running Kara but there are some items I'd like to pick up beforehand, trying to get the gladiator healing mace but AV just sucks for honor anymore.

I had a wild time last night healing for a group that wanted to take down a Fel Reaver in hellfire though, we spent over 10 minutes burning down a Fel Reaver Sentry and the guys realized those don't work for the quest you have to take out a regular reaver around honor hold, the tank dropped so we picked up a rogue for the reaver for the quest, it was Warlock, Mage, Rogue(tanking) and Myself(resto druid).

The warlock pulled aggro and got his ass handed to him right away, too quickly for me to heal him but I kept the Rogue up no problem and the mage when he pulled aggro, everyone (but myself) being in season 1 gear, while I'm in a few crafted epics and the rest rep blues and such.

Edit: Just downed another Fel Reaver tonight, 2-manned it with a druid friend of mine, She's feral in quest reward blues and 1 epic, not quite sure her stats but I'd say probably around 12k health and 10k armor in Dire Bear form but I could be a bit off either way. she charged it and I threw up my 3 lifeblooms, and thats all I needed.. I just sat there keeping Lifebloom up and gained mana rather then lost any while she burned it down going cat when it only had 5k health left to finish it off, took us about 5 - 8 minutes to down it just the two of us.

I used to play a 70 lock. He was very fun while I was leveling, but once I hit 70 I had absolutely nothing to do. Most of my game time was spent farming, trying to do instances, and dieing in the battlegrounds. I've never enjoyed farming, a lack of tanks and healers made it very difficult to run instances, and i just plain suck at pvp.

He was still pretty fun. My build was nuke based (mostly demon, not destro) and I would be able to usually get crits of 2600 w/ my max being somewhere around 4k. I didn't meet many people who could out-dps me, and only a few tanks who could hold aggro when i gave it my all. On the other hand, I never met many people I could take out in pvp.

Either they've changed something in the last week (very possible) or you're doing something that's impossible.

You know, since you can't do premade AV anymore. Can join up as a five man party but that's it.


Yes, but you're overlooking the huge number of druid healers who don't have treeform.

Just like I'm overlooking the huge numbers of enhancement shamans who have real mana issues despite our numerous replenishing talents and the fact we only use three abilities 90% of the time.


You're so young and hopeful.

It'll be at least two months before AoC even begins to look at its best. All the testing in the world doesn't prepare them for the sheer numbers and perversity of the player base.

Me, I'm not thinking too highly of ol' Conan. I hope I'm wrong because it might be a nice game if I am but I'm doubtful.


Or a lot worse.

From what I remember of the WoW beta screenshots, they went from stunningly good looking to horribly awful.


It will never, ever happen the way people want it.

There is no way to balance a Space Marine against any other standard trooper in the game, especially if you take your motivation from the fiction.


Hi, I'm an Enhancement Shaman. I provide less physical DPS on my own than any other physical DPS class (because my utility is in melee buffs) and I have sub-par healing abilities due to my stat weights. I also have no inherent cc or counter-cc. Seeing as I'm on the Alliance side of this fence, it's also a ridiculous amount of work to get a PvP trinket to give me even basic counter-cc which I wouldn't be wearing because I get a more important buff from the AP or the crit.

I reckon you'll get a group a long time before me, Mr Fear and Seduction.


About three weeks ago a group I was in failed to kill Prince three times on less than 5% each time.

Most of us were geared for TK level at least.


Either they're metre whores or they've got a mod and aren't watching or paying attention.


Best geared healer in my guild can keep up two tanks solo (barring low burst damage) and can keep up three tanks with a little help from time to time.

Now if only he learned how not to get killed on trash more than anybody else in the guild, he'd be laughing.


You stand in the doorway, right? That's crucial.

tried healing Heroic ramps with a guild I joined the other night, team makeup was Warrior(tank), Mage, Feral Druid(offtank), Warlock, and myself, Resto druid.

We didn't even make it to the first boss before wiping several times, first time due to nobody keeping mobs off me, second due to bad pull, then every wipe after that was more and more of the same mobs on the healer, and I was getting aggro just from throwing up a single lifebloom on the tank.

An example scenario, our last pull before they decided "its the healers fault, we're gonna find another one": group of four, 2 humanoid mobs and 2 non elite dogs, tank pulls one humanoid, mage sheeps other humanoid, druid is supposed to sleep one dog and kill the other, he sleeps one dog, other dog is on me and kills me before he gets anywhere near, group wipe.. and yeah I'm waiting for tank to pull and begin causing threat before I throw up lifeblooms so as not to get aggro from the pull itself.

Who's fault is it? mine? well.. I could have waited longer to lifebloom the tank.. he'd have been dead before the druid got to second dog and then yeah I'd agree that it was my fault, though I feel as if I'm being blamed for it, I'm not a priest I cant bubble or fade so if you cant keep mobs off me everyone's going to die.

So anyway according to them, I need practice. Well, probably true, but I can tell you any healer they find to replace me is not going to stick around long after they wipe several more times on trash mobs because they cant keep them off the healer.

thoughts?

I found 2 things wrong with that situation. 1. The lock had the ability to cc the dog, yet he did not. 2. the lock, the mage, the druid, and the warrior all had the ability to kill or tank that non-elite dog, yet they did not.

I'm not familiar with druids, but could you have cc'ed that dog yourself? Or could you have healed yourself through the damage?

guys is the gladiators set a good set to go for for a mixed hunter orc, with a wolf pet?

I could have cced the other but it was never discussed in the plan for the pull, they were all talking in vent and decided this was the way to go the druid was sleeping one dog and killing the other. and no I couldn't heal myself through the damage, I tried once the dog was on me but fell dead soon afterward just as the druid comes running up in caster form, what he was planning on doing is beyond me, he should have been in bear by then charging the dog and taunted etc.. or atleast MOONFIRE the god damned thing.

but see, there are several things the DPS could have done to prevent that too, the druid to begin with could have been ready to sleep the first rather then wait for the first dog to get to the tank before starting to cast, as could the mage with his sheep.. no instead they waited for the mobs to actually get to the tank and start pummeling him before casting their cc (by this time I had to throw up lifeblooms).

the druid after sleeping the first dog could have moonfired the second to pull it, then dropped to bear, charged, and began building threat to prevent it from actually getting to me after the first was cced.. and see the fourth dog had to pass the mage, druid, and warlock to get to me, the mage could have novad the dog to stop it and give the druid time to get to it, the warlock could have feared the dog as we were far enough back it wasn't going to run into more mobs.. instead it was allowed to run past all the DPS and offtank and get to the healer.. so.. clearly to them it was the healers fault.

But that is the price you pay when you run heroics with clueless individuals, the 4 of them are close friends, I'm new.. so who are friends going to blame when shit goes wrong? the new guy.

they weren't rude about it or anything but still the fact remains I was blamed for the wipes and had nothing to do with it, my heals were never the problem, a lack of CC and coordination within the pulls were. they let me go and found another healer, but I'm pretty sure they were having the same problems considering every time I looked at guild roster one or more of them were in hellfire peninsula again (running back to instance) and not 30 minutes later the run was called off(obviously they couldn't finish).

If there's any druid healer who does his healing without treeform (and by that I mean relying on hots instead of healing goddamn touch, which is what treeform implies) at past 1k~ +healing? He deserves to be shot for his stupidity. And then he should be drawn and quartered, and all the little bits should be hung seperately, and then they should all be set on fire, to make sure the stupid can't spread.

Basing druid gear around the fact that some very stupid druids don't use treeform would be like stacking +health regen as the main stat on a warrior tank's gear in case he decides to MT without any healers, with all the dps instead taking turns bandaging him.

And we all know that's just a matter of time.

Let's not forget that Wrath of the Lich King is on the horizon.

In all fairness, Blizzard is getting better. Fewer classes are getting anally violated in the Burning Crusade than before it - you can actually have a viable use for almost every single spec now. With luck, they'll stop their nerf balancing with the next expansion. It's a baffling phenomena but whenever one class is having surprising success, rather than buff the classes that need the help they decide to nerf the class doing well.

Once for about 3 minutes, the game was running with absolutely no lag at all. It was going smooth as quicksilver.

And I got scared. More than when I at age 7 watched a movie where people were being violently and sadistically torn apart.

WoW isn't supposed to have no lag. It's supposed to have small bits of lag even if they're not visible until they're not there...
The experience still haunts me to this day.

I usually have a pretty smooth run. Very little lag.

But then I usually play in the ungodly AM hours, which would make a difference I suppose.

yeah that would probably fix ne lag issues lol

It's never completely gone, of course. Blackrock is officially a US server but it's one of three US servers with a mostly Australian population.

That's what happens before you open Oceanic servers, I suppose.

OMFG!! MUFFIN YOU LEFT ME AND CALE ALONE ON DARK IRON?! who am I supposed to drive insane when I am playing on kaelath now? Oh well I suppose i'll just go back to playing my 70 hunter and 70 rogue on magtheridon and piss off the pvp geared hunters that can't play to save their own hide in an actual fight against a real pro

I actually made the switch to Blackrock after Argent Dawn had a little hiccup on my end. I have to say: its funnier than watching a one-legged Ethiopian attempt to run downhill after a donut. Telling them I'm an Argent Dawn oldie and I wanna play with them. My favorite line: "We're full: GTFO."

It is the Blackrock slogan.

You'd get a lot more comments than your usual transfer because whenever Blackrock goes down, people go to Argent Dawn. You're water running uphill.

There are some encounters where you move too fast to be in tree. But you would still be running and hotting. Of course these druids still have tree form, I know of none that don't.
Spell Haste lowers your instant cast GCD (this was a patch change a while back), which makes it good for druids.

As for druids having to respec, well most I know do it for fun (i.e. Bag is a "feral druid" but likes to be boomkin just for his own amusement) or for Arenas (in Arenas resto is OP, feral is junk, decision is made for you).

As for enh mana, back in the days of pre-aggro fix I would have mana problems because shammy rage generated too much threat to be used on CD. These days there is no mana problem. So yes, I wear leather (the new LWing sunwell crafted items are RAWK!).

As for enh dps, cookie cutter +hit spec, slow weapons with WF, you're going to have no problems being competative.

Yes, but I am refreshing water running uphill. Not like those stagnant bastards on Boulderfist.