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foxeye
Woot, kruch army! /dance
Vearl
Cool, I'm really anticipating the next comic now.

I liked the line "The warlock has taken to singing during his sessions with the landor. It is a disturbing sight."
Way to go Richard! Freak people out!
MantaLord
DUN DUN DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN!
The gF
This got stickied fast!

Also, I totally called the army of Krunch's people.
MrEasterband
There are the two moons again... I just get lost in those, and forget about the rest...

And good call gF.

Anywho... I for the next page I predict: The death of more NPCs, familly reunion, harsh words between familly members and some hilarious comments from Richard.

Tell me if I missed anything.
foxeye
QUOTE(The gF @ Mar 3 2008, 05:20 AM) [snapback]169217[/snapback]
This got stickied fast!

Also, I totally called the army of Krunch's people.


The image of a large group of Krunchs people crushing the skulls of dragons, and soldiers, makes me smile.
MantaLord
Did you notice? Mr. Man was sending out amessage with his Raven... Probably asking for more troops.
Rip Van Ishmael
QUOTE(The gF @ Mar 3 2008, 12:20 AM) [snapback]169217[/snapback]
This got stickied fast!

Also, I totally called the army of Krunch's people.

And someone also called Richard singing durin his torture sessions. Dunno who it was though, but they are now officially full of win.

If they've gotten back to Richard on their torture stints, that means Krunch, Benny, and Pella have been tortured as well by now. I wonder how that turned out.

I also wonder where Sooba's been this whole time. Hopefully they didn't leave him on the boat, or in Kethencia. They'd probably be partially screwed then,

I usually hate when there's a comic not including Richard, but this one mentions Richard doing what Richard does best, being really disturbing.

Doesn't make thursday come any faster, though.
The gF
QUOTE(MrEasterband @ Mar 3 2008, 12:22 AM) [snapback]169221[/snapback]
There are the two moons again... I just get lost in those, and forget about the rest...

And good call gF.

Anywho... I for the next page I predict: The death of more NPCs, familly reunion, harsh words between familly members and some hilarious comments from Richard.

Tell me if I missed anything.

All that in one page? That's a bit fast-paced for LFG, don't you think?
CrystalSuicune
QUOTE(Vearl @ Mar 3 2008, 01:14 PM) [snapback]169205[/snapback]
Cool, I'm really anticipating the next comic now.

I liked the line "The warlock has taken to singing during his sessions with the landor. It is a disturbing sight."
Way to go Richard! Freak people out!

And that proved the fact that ideas stemming from these sort of threads
are listened to.Guys!Keep thinking up more crazy ideas!And draw it out!
XDD

Gosh,people create new page!threads really quickly!Wonder if I ever get the chance
to open one...*ponders*
MrEasterband
I'll say what I allways say about Sooba... They have tied him to a tree outside.
MrEasterband
QUOTE(The gF @ Mar 3 2008, 06:43 AM) [snapback]169242[/snapback]
All that in one page? That's a bit fast-paced for LFG, don't you think?

I will make it one better. They will do it all at the same time. Killing NPCs while the argue with each other about old times and the current situation, and Richard pulling his comments.
Rip Van Ishmael
QUOTE(CrystalSuicune @ Mar 3 2008, 12:44 AM) [snapback]169244[/snapback]
And that proved the fact that ideas stemming from these sort of threads
are listened to.Guys!Keep thinking up more crazy ideas!And draw it out!
XDD

Gosh,people create new page!threads really quickly!Wonder if I ever get the chance
to open one...*ponders*

Honestly, I really hope not. Reader suggestion is one thing, but if the authors [read: SohLar] ever took solely from what the readers suggest than their own imaginations, then it wouldn't be really LFG, and thus, it would suck horribly.

Richard would still be awesome though, somehow. Richard transcends pretty much everything.
MantaLord
Except for "The Lord of the Dance" Joke...
Rip Van Ishmael
I think that was just a coincidence, even though Fro are still a genius.
Lunaya
QUOTE(Rip Van Ishmael @ Mar 2 2008, 10:43 PM) [snapback]169241[/snapback]
And someone also called Richard singing durin his torture sessions. Dunno who it was though, but they are now officially full of win.


QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Feb 28 2008, 01:43 PM) [snapback]166657[/snapback]
Hmm, and we always believed that Richard's reaction to torture would be something like this.


QUOTE(Lunaya @ Feb 28 2008, 02:09 PM) [snapback]166682[/snapback]
Well, we didn't see the whole torture session. I'm sure they had Richard singing at one point. laugh.gif


Fro called it first. ^^
Tobrian
Aw, man, Sohmer and Lar are dragging out the suspense of what happened to Cale! sad.gif

Kudos to anyone who predicted that the group will not free themselves but be rescued by Krunch's people attacking the fortress.

QUOTE(Rip Van Ishmael @ Mar 3 2008, 06:43 AM) [snapback]169241[/snapback]
If they've gotten back to Richard on their torture stints, that means Krunch, Benny, and Pella have been tortured as well by now. I wonder how that turned out.

I agree with Rip that it's likely that by now all of our heroes have been tortured, off-screen. Ominous. The next thing we'll see of them (and what sorry state they are in) will probably be when the minotaurs pry open the cells to rescue prisoners, or when the sound of battle rouses the prisoners from their painfilled torpor.

....unless Richard found the torture sessions such fun that he yelled "Oooh me! Pick me again! I want another ride on the rack!" when the guards dragged Cale back to the cell. (Naa, I don't believe that myself.)

The question is, will the minotaurs recognize Krunch (and Benny)? How long has Krunch been away from home?

QUOTE(MantaLord @ Mar 3 2008, 06:41 AM) [snapback]169240[/snapback]
Did you notice? Mr. Man was sending out amessage with his Raven... Probably asking for more troops.

Considering the commander says he just received word they will be getting more troops anyway, I'd say the raven brought a message.

Actually, the corvid bird with the message capsule was the first thing the biologist me noticed. "Oooooh.... raven!" smile.gif But on second second view I'd say it's a crow; the beak and general size are a bit too small to be a raven. Ravens are even more impressive, with a broad daggerlike beak. The metallic blueish sheen on the feathers would point to it being raven, though.

Odd though that the commander doesn't use messenger pidgeons. Corvids are very clever, but I've never heard of one trained to carry messages? Could be, though. Even wild corvids can recognize individuums among humans (mostly to learn whom to avoid, though). A trained one would be awesome. Also, ravens can learn to speak. And of course we have precedents in mythology: Odin's ravens. Although these were technically not animals, but his thoughts, able to fly about and act as his eyes and ears.

QUOTE(Rip Van Ishmael @ Mar 3 2008, 06:43 AM) [snapback]169241[/snapback]
I also wonder where Sooba's been this whole time. Hopefully they didn't leave him on the boat, or in Kethencia. They'd probably be partially screwed then

Either Cale forgot to call Sooba from his pokeball, or Sooba ran off when the tide of battle turned against them and found Krunch's people hiding in the woods. Sooba then did a Lassie routine to tell them that his faithful master is being held prisoner by the evil humans. Woof woof!
Rip Van Ishmael
QUOTE(Tobrian @ Mar 3 2008, 01:10 AM) [snapback]169283[/snapback]
....unless Richard found the torture sessions such fun that he yelled "Oooh me! Pick me again! I want another ride on the rack!" when the guards dragged Cale back to the cell. (Naa, I don't believe that myself.)

Its not so much that that probably didn't happen as it probably did happen, and the guards just ignored him and continued torturing whatever information they could out of the rest of the party before getting around to Richard again.
Yakumo Fuji
QUOTE(MantaLord @ Mar 3 2008, 06:41 AM) [snapback]169240[/snapback]
Did you notice? Mr. Man was sending out amessage with his Raven... Probably asking for more troops.

Actually, I guess he either confirms that he did recive the message about the eight joining legions, or he just let his raven fly a bit while he looks at a map (maybe to plan how to conquer the land). Or both.
Heartsib
I wonder if that bit of flesh he's feeding to the messenger crow used to be attached to anyone we know.
Tobrian
So... it looks like it wasn't a trap laid by Aelloon afterall? The group was just stupid unlucky enough to blunder into a heavily armed fortress headfirst.

Going back to Page 124, I don't understand why Commander Kickass wondered who the hell is attacking them and remarked to the bald guy, "No-one is supposed to know we're here." Um, hello? You've built a huge fortress, manned by hundreds of men, in the middle of previously neutral minotaur tribal territory, a fortress that in the real world would need constant supplies, food, horsefeed, fresh water, firewood for cooking and coal for blacksmiths and armorsmiths, stuff like that, and you think no-one has noticed?? Perhaps he is referring to certain power groups in Legara who are not supposed to know such a fortress has been built beyond the borders of the Empire. Still, in the real world it's much harder to hide armies or cities than in generic fantasy novels. Most fantasy authors simply forget about logistic matters, and the smoking cooking fires, not to mention the latrines.

Well now that eight more legions plus dragons and wizards are coming over for a sleep-over and pyjama party, I guess whoever sent that message to the commander decided that hiding the existance of the fortress no longer matters. Or do they have cloaking devices for their armies?

But when the commander says in today's page, "Legarion under Legara. As it was, as it will be again. And no-one saw it coming." I think he's a bit.... deluded? Overly optimistic? I mean, there's this aggressively militaristic Empire, still dreaming of past glories, and he thinks no-one will expect Legara to try and regain former territory? Oh come on!

About the eight legions, I'm sure that the reinforcements have nothing directly to do with the attack by our heroes, since whoever sent the message raven must've set things in motion long before Cale decided to take on the fortress. You don't gather so many troops in one day. Unless weeks or months have elapsed between Page 126 and 127, and our heroes have been in that cell for ages now, but I doubt that. The exchange between the commander and that young redshirt with the overbite simply doesn't sound like more than a day ortwo at max have elapsed since Cale's attack. Commander-guy says they still don't know anything about Cale and the others, or why the heck they attacked the fortress in the first place.

Interesting that the commander mentions "forward bases" (or which this fortress is probably one) and makes it sound like Legara has been preparing to conquer the rest of the continent.... but no-one seemed to anticipate an attack by the minotaurs? See page 124, as mentioned above, how perplexed the commander was that a small group of fighters is suddenly attacking them out of nowhere. Weird. Am I missing something here? Why doesn't Commander Kickass wonder why an elf (who he must assume is Vulii) allies with a minotaur?

Are the minotaurs still considered dumb animals in the present time? I don't see armor or weapons on the minotaurs in the last panel. They look more... feral than Krunch.

Remind me, have we met/heard about this "General Sapin" before, or is this the first time he's mentioned?

QUOTE(Heartsib @ Mar 3 2008, 07:42 AM) [snapback]169297[/snapback]
I wonder if that bit of flesh he's feeding to the messenger crow used to be attached to anyone we know.

Eeww. Thanks for that lovely mental image.
blink.gif sad.gif
malkavian
blink.gif good call GF and anyone else. now we get to hopefully see the warrior brother of krunch's family
Tobrian
Addendum to my posting above:
What bothers me is this phrase "As it was, as it will be again. " turning up again, from the mouth of some military commander. Previously, we've only heard similar phrases from the archmage and the insane beholder.

Who is behind this offensive? Who is giving the commander his orders? I doubt it's Aelloon.

And why do people always try to resurrect old empires instead of looking for the future? All this entitlement thinking...
Felixaar
I don't mean to be a jerk (or maybe I do, but just dont want you to think I do), but how does eight legions make for over thirty thousand men?

Awesome comic, though.

Edit: Post #666. Pure. Evil.
Heartsib
QUOTE(Felixaar @ Mar 3 2008, 12:26 AM) [snapback]169307[/snapback]
I don't mean to be a jerk (or maybe I do, but just dont want you to think I do), but how does eight legions make for over thirty thousand men?


Headcount for a Roman legion was from 5000 to 6000 men, so if this is anything similar, you get well over 30,000 troops.
Tobrian
QUOTE(Felixaar @ Mar 3 2008, 08:26 AM) [snapback]169307[/snapback]
(snip) how does eight legions make for over thirty thousand men?

Easily. cool.gif

[edited to add]Keep in mind, eight legions is a huge army. When Publius Quinctilius Varus had his ass handed to him by the Germans under Hermann (aka Arminius) in the battle of the Teutoburger Forest, all THREE of his legions were slaughtered. Everyone had expected three legions to be more than sufficient to subdue any Germanic tribesmen in that area beyond the Roman borders, but they got into an ambush, and they didn't know the terrain, while Arminius used to terrain to his advantage. According to historians' estimates, Varus' forces consisted of Legions XVII, XVIII, XIX, three units of cavalery and six cohorts of 15,000 to 20,000 soldiers with four to five thousand riding, draft and pack animals, in a train that must've been 15 bis 20 km long.

Back to the comic, I doubt they can house all those 30,000 extra men plus supplies, several dragons and their riders, and a group of mages, in the fortress, though. They should think about clearing more of that forest, to build palisades and camps. Heck, I've said it before, but why are there still large trees so close to the fortress? They need to clear space around it, so that their sentries can easily spot anyone approaching.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legion
QUOTE
Roman legion

(from Latin legio "military levy, conscription", from lego — "to collect") is a term that can apply both as a transliteration of legio ("conscription" or "army") to the entire Roman army and also, more narrowly (and more commonly), to the heavy infantry that was the basic military unit of the ancient Roman army in the period of the late Roman Republic and the Roman Empire. In this latter meaning, it consisted of several cohorts of heavy infantry known as legionaries. It was almost always accompanied by one or more attached units of auxiliaries, who were not Roman citizens and provided cavalry, ranged troops and skirmishers to complement the legion's heavy infantry.

The size of a typical legion varied widely throughout the history of ancient Rome, with complements of 4,200 legionaries in the republican period of Rome (split into 35 maniples of 120 legionaries each), to 5,200 plus auxilarys in the imperial period (split into 10 cohorts of 480 men each, with the first cohort holding 800 men.


As legions were not standing armies until the Marian reforms (c. 107 BC), and were instead created, used, and disbanded again, several hundred legions were named and numbered throughout Roman history. To date, about 50 have been identified. In the time of the Early Roman Empire, there were usually about 25-35 standing legions plus their Auxiliaries, with more raised as needed. See List of Roman legions for a catalogue of known late republic, early Empire and late Empire legions, with dates in existence, emblem and locations of deployment.

Due to the enormous military successes of the Roman Republic and the Roman Empire the legion has long been regarded as the prime ancient model for military efficiency and ability.
(...)

Late Republic (107-30BC)

Main article: Marian reforms
See also List of Roman legions for details of notable late Republican legions

Following the Marian reforms of the 2nd century BC, the legions took on the second, narrower meaning that is familiar in the popular imagination as close-order citizen heavy infantry.

At the end of the 2nd century BC Gaius Marius reformed the previously ephemeral legions as a professional force drawing from the poorest classes, enabling Rome to field larger armies and providing employment for jobless citizens of the city of Rome. However, this put the loyalty of the soldiers in the hands of their general rather than Rome itself. In this period all Italian regions obtained full Roman citizenship and provided a larger basis for the army, supplemented by poor urban Romans.

The legions of the Late Republic and Early Empire are often called Marian legions. Following the Battle of Vercellae in 101 BC, Marius granted all Italian soldiers Roman citizenship. He justified this action to the Senate by saying that in the din of battle he could not distinguish Roman from ally. This effectively eliminated the notion of allied legions; henceforth all Italian legions would be regarded as Roman Legions, and full Roman citizenship was open to all the regions of Italy. Thus the three different types of heavy infantry were replaced by a single, standard type based on the Principes: armed with two heavy javelins called pila, the short sword called gladius, chain mail (lorica hamata) or banded armour (lorica segmentata), helmet and rectangular shield (scutum).

The role of allied legions would eventually be taken up by contingents of allied auxiliary troops, called Auxilia. Each legion had an auxilia of similar size, which contained specialist units, engineers and pioneers, artillerymen and craftsmen, service and support personnel and irregular units made up of non-citizens, mercenaries and local militia. These were usually formed into complete units such as light cavalry, light infantry or velites, and labourers. There was also a reconnaissance squad of 10 or more light mounted infantry called speculatores who could also serve as messengers or even as an early form of military intelligence service.

(...)

Early Empire (30 BC-284 AD)

See Directory of Roman legions of the early Empire

For political and economic reasons, Augustus reduced the number of legions from nearly 50 at the end of his war against Mark Antony to only 28 which decomposed to 25 after the battle of Teutoburg Forest in which 3 legions were slaughtered. Generals during the recent Republican civil wars had formed their own legions and numbered them as they wished. When these wars ended, Augustus was left with around fifty legions, with several double counts (multiple Legio X's for instance). Beside streamlining the army, and regulating the soldiers' pay, he corrected these numbering anomalies. During this time, there was a high incidence of Gemina (twin) legions, where two legions were consolidated into a single organization (and was later made official and put under a dux and six duces.

At the same time, he greatly increased the number of auxiliaries to the point where they were equal in number to the legionaries. He also created the Praetorian Guard along with a permanent navy where served the liberti, or freed slaves.

(...)

Late Empire (from 284)

See List of Roman legions for catalogue of late Empire legions

In the Later Roman Empire, the number of legions was increased and the Roman Army expanded. There is no evidence to suggest that legions changed in form before the Tetrarchy, although there is evidence that they were smaller than the paper strengths usually quoted. The final form of the legion originated with the elite legiones palatinae created by Diocletian and the Tetrarchs. These were infantry units of around 1,000 men rather than the 5,000, including cavalry, of the old Legions. The earliest legiones palatinae were the Lanciarii, Joviani, Herculiani and Divitenses.

The 4th century saw a very large number of new, small legions created, a process which began under Constantine II. In addition to the elite palatinae, other legions called comitatenses and pseudocomitatenses, along with the auxilia palatina, provided the infantry of late Roman armies. The Notitia Dignitatum lists 25 legiones palatinae, 70 legiones comitatenses, 47 legiones pseudocomitatenses and 111 auxilia palatina in the field armies, and a further 47 legiones in the frontier armies.[2] Legion names such as Honoriani and Gratianenses found in the Notitia suggest that the process of creating new legions continued through the 4th century rather than being a single event. The names also suggest that many new legions were formed from vexillationes or from old legions.

According to the late Roman writer Vegetius' De Re Militari, each century had a ballista and each cohort had an onager, giving the legion a formidable siege train of 59 Ballistae and 10 Onagers each manned by 10 libritors (artillerymen) and mounted on wagons drawn by oxen or mules. In addition to attacking cities and fortifications, these would be used to help defend Roman forts and fortified camps (castra) as well. They would even be employed on occasion, especially in the later Empire, as field artillery during battles or in support of river crossings.
nothingbroken
I wonder how much time has passed in between this page and the last one? if Richard has "taken to singing during sessions" he's obviously been in there more than once. So I'm going to assume that it's very possible that all group members have been tortured once, or several times. sad.gif That's a sad thought.

However, a very happy thought is how loudly I squeaked with joy when I saw the Taureans/Minotaurs coming to the rescue. Huzzah!! Can we finally meet the rest of Clan Bloodrage?? Eeeeeee!! laugh.gif

The artwork in that last panel is gorgeous. wub.gif
razorwolf
cool, bovine intervention!
Eternal wanderer
I remember posting something bout Krunch's people coming to the rescue... Heh, I'm finally right about something!
Tobrian
[ Drat, while I was busy editing and adding to my posting, three more people have posted in the interim. ]


It would be funny... well maybe not exactly funny as such... if the attacking mintaurs really are feral and tribal and primitive, and after they've overwhelmed the fortress by sheer number or [insert awesome strategy here], they break open the cells to find our heroes inside... and take them prisoner again (or at least everyone but Krunch) and drag them into the forest. Maybe they will try to eat Cale and Pella? Like the Ewoks did in Return of the Jedi.

I suppose Krunch would be able to protect Benny ("She is MINE! Hands off!") but as for the others, why should minotaurs greet an elf or a dwarf with open arms? Not to mention a creature like Richard. Heck, depending on how the Vulii elves treated the minotaurs in those 3,000 years since the fall of Kethenecia, the minotaurs' first reaction on seeing Cale might be CRUSH THE ELF! SMASH! KILL!
Drouth
Hmmm, was Richard singin "Slaughter Your World" or did he ask Pella for an 80's song to sing? Both would be disturbing to hear while torturing him, but the other would give Pella more of a purpose.
craignixon
QUOTE(nothingbroken @ Mar 3 2008, 08:06 AM) [snapback]169319[/snapback]
I wonder how much time has passed in between this page and the last one? if Richard has "taken to singing during sessions" he's obviously been in there more than once. So I'm going to assume that it's very possible that all group members have been tortured once, or several times. sad.gif That's a sad thought.

However, a very happy thought is how loudly I squeaked with joy when I saw the Taureans/Minotaurs coming to the rescue. Huzzah!! Can we finally meet the rest of Clan Bloodrage?? Eeeeeee!! laugh.gif

The artwork in that last panel is gorgeous. wub.gif



I'm guessing thats probably been at least a week, looking at the difference between the moons in page 122 and 127.

I know next to nothing about lunar cycles, but it looks like about a week **shrugs**

Of course , it may differ for a double moon world.

And I predict an troubles ahead, storms a-brewin and death - Astrology told me so.


Krunchs fault for being a Taurus
barysnikov
I feel i should point out that krunch has a brother, and from what we have been lead to believe, he is all about empirical expansion. Krunch on the otherhand, is the more common Tauren, with his obsession with knowledge and mysticism.

Although, only time will tell what kind of Tauren those shadows are.
Takoh
The Taurens are coming...

It's about time we saw more 'Taurens'. I wonder how big this army of the cow people's is...
foxeye
QUOTE(Takoh @ Mar 3 2008, 12:52 PM) [snapback]169367[/snapback]
The Taurens are coming...

It's about time we saw more 'Taurens'. I wonder how big this army of the cow people's is...


If they are anything like krunch there don't need to be many. cool.gif
TheAK
QUOTE(Heartsib @ Mar 3 2008, 07:42 AM) [snapback]169297[/snapback]
I wonder if that bit of flesh he's feeding to the messenger crow used to be attached to anyone we know.

Mmmh, Cale tastes goood.... blink.gif

No seriously... I was actually in doubt whether the minotaurs were actually on Krunch's side or the reiforcements arriving...
But judging from that crow being sent out I guess they've only just sent for them...
So yeah, I look forward to massive pwnage in the night! tongue.gif
Falcon4196
This should be interesting. Given how mysterious Krunch has been about his family and his past that this isn't going to be the happiest of reunions.
Hekateras
QUOTE(craignixon @ Mar 3 2008, 01:42 PM) [snapback]169364[/snapback]
I'm guessing thats probably been at least a week, looking at the difference between the moons in page 122 and 127.

I know next to nothing about lunar cycles, but it looks like about a week **shrugs**

Of course , it may differ for a double moon world.

And I predict an troubles ahead, storms a-brewin and death - Astrology told me so.
Krunchs fault for being a Taurus


Eeek. >_< Well-spotted. You're probably right. I hope you aren't. I certainly shudder to think of what state they must be in by now... >_< And I still can't wrap my brain around a notion of Krunch and RICHARD being imprisoned for any prolonged period of time. I do hope that's going to be explained. O_o
Thalos
So, previously, a certain Pirate Captain warned Temmet of a "Imminent threat to your rule". When he went off on a tangent about how he was "Legara". And forced her to tell him what she knew. At least thats what can be assumed judging his statements and the many ships that were around the pirate vessel at the time.
From previous encounters with said Pirate we know she doesnt like to loose or give information freely. I wonder if she will play a part in the upcoming battle.
Maybe sink a few ships full of reinforcements.
Maybe stick a few troops together with giant Balista bolts.
Or possibly other piratey things...Like freeing to people who are an Imminent threat to the rule and getting back at Temmet for getting information from her without the proper payment.

Just a thought.
Cirdan
I take it this army of Krunchies means Pella will remain an udnerused character and not get her moment of brilliance? sad.gif
Scorch
Stampede!!!! biggrin.gif
bowchikawowow
just a thought, but what if the cow army ends up being the one benny was hoping for in page 120???? blink.gif
carcer
That would be what we call foreshadowing bowchikawowow,
Crumshaw
QUOTE(Tobrian @ Mar 3 2008, 07:02 AM) [snapback]169299[/snapback]
Going back to Page 124, I don't understand why Commander Kickass wondered who the hell is attacking them and remarked to the bald guy, "No-one is supposed to know we're here." Um, hello? You've built a huge fortress, manned by hundreds of men, in the middle of previously neutral minotaur tribal territory, a fortress that in the real world would need constant supplies, food, horsefeed, fresh water, firewood for cooking and coal for blacksmiths and armorsmiths, stuff like that, and you think no-one has noticed?? Perhaps he is referring to certain power groups in Legara who are not supposed to know such a fortress has been built beyond the borders of the Empire. Still, in the real world it's much harder to hide armies or cities than in generic fantasy novels. Most fantasy authors simply forget about logistic matters, and the smoking cooking fires, not to mention the latrines.


Well, when I first heard that line I assumed he saying "we" as in himself and whoever the other guy was in the room at the time and not the entire fortress. As you said, such a large facility would be difficult to hide. Judging by the last panel of 127, I'd say that the fortress is rather remote, and it stands to reason that the general rarely visits his outlying posts. If that was the case, then his comment makes perfect sense. An unexpected attack upon a fortress by an elite fighting force when he just happens to be there and which is heading straight for his office could easily be interpreted as an assassination attempt or something along those lines. In his place, I would assume that said attack party was sent to capture me specifically, and my first question would be how they managed to track me down. That said, if he was referring to the entire fortress, his comment wasn't entirely ridiculous. With cooperation from the indigenous people of the area, the location or even existence of a large fortress could be hidden. In colonial America, for example, British colonists would stumble upon French camps that had been trading with local Indian tribes for years. If the people who are aware of the fortress are careful about not letting anyone else in on it, there is no practical reason that anyone would send out a scouting force into a hostile and relatively unexplored region for the sole purpose of investigating some vague rumor. That'd be like you hiring an expedition to go scout for Area 52. On the off chance that it does exist, you probably still won't find it, in which case you'd be wasting time and resources.

QUOTE(Tobrian @ Mar 3 2008, 07:02 AM) [snapback]169299[/snapback]
Well now that eight more legions plus dragons and wizards are coming over for a sleep-over and pyjama party, I guess whoever sent that message to the commander decided that hiding the existance of the fortress no longer matters. Or do they have cloaking devices for their armies?

But when the commander says in today's page, "Legarion under Legara. As it was, as it will be again. And no-one saw it coming." I think he's a bit.... deluded? Overly optimistic? I mean, there's this aggressively militaristic Empire, still dreaming of past glories, and he thinks no-one will expect Legara to try and regain former territory? Oh come on!


Admittedly, an enormous army such as the one he describes would be almost impossible to hide. I don't think he meant stealthy, however. As you pointed out, large forces take a long time to mobilize and, therefore, an order to attack a region which had held an uneasy truce for years would appear very sudden. Although the defenders will inevitably spot the army coming miles off, they would have no chance of organizing a well-planned defensive movement, and, with such an overwhelming aggressor, that seems to be their only hope of victory.

A lot of people are suggesting that this tauren (or minotaur or whatever) army is going to rescue or capture Cale & Co. I'd like to supply an alternate theory. The tauren sack the fortress and kill the general. Since they have no real reason to visit the prison, however, they skip it altogether and so our band of heroes is left chained to the wall like before, and they have to escape for themselves after things quiet down. Is it anti-climactic? Yes. Would it be funny nonetheless? I think so.
Kalatash
I'm not sure if I missed someone else commenting on it, but... what is it that is floating in front of the moon? That SCREAMS 'ominous' to me.
Super Gamer 117
QUOTE(carcer @ Mar 3 2008, 02:03 PM) [snapback]169470[/snapback]
That would be what we call foreshadowing bowchikawowow,

More like obvious fortune-telling.

Oh, nice avatar Carcer. biggrin.gif
Nakranoth
QUOTE(Kalatash @ Mar 3 2008, 01:46 PM) [snapback]169478[/snapback]
I'm not sure if I missed someone else commenting on it, but... what is it that is floating in front of the moon? That SCREAMS 'ominous' to me.


That would be the crow/raven flying off.

And the two moons are still more or less in the same place relative to eachother, just lower in the sky... that means matter of hours, not days/weeks.
Pony
QUOTE(CrystalSuicune @ Mar 2 2008, 09:44 PM) [snapback]169244[/snapback]
And that proved the fact that ideas stemming from these sort of threads
are listened to.Guys!Keep thinking up more crazy ideas!And draw it out!
XDD

Gosh,people create new page!threads really quickly!Wonder if I ever get the chance
to open one...*ponders*


I remember reading a news post from Sohmer once where he said quite the opposite (don't remember if he wrote it here or on the LICD page). Bust basically what he said was that he was so particular about his creative creations being completely born of his own and Lar's brains that if he hears an idea from someone else, then he absolutely refuses to ever incorporate that idea or anything like it into his art. Such that, if he were to read one of those threads and reads a cool idea, that idea would then be off limits - eventhough he may have come up with it on his own otherwise.

He wrote this in the context of satellite radio. He was saying that he used to love to listen to stand up comedians on his satellite radio, but that one day he noticed he was starting to unconciously incorporate their comedy into his work. As a result, he no longer allowed himself to listen to that radio station, eventhough he enjoyed it so much.

So, yeah, basically I would implore you all to do the opposite. If you come up with what you think would be an amazing story line or plot twist for the comic, keep it to yourself! Cause if Sohmer catches wind of it, then it may never come to be.

QUOTE(Kalatash @ Mar 3 2008, 11:46 AM) [snapback]169478[/snapback]
I'm not sure if I missed someone else commenting on it, but... what is it that is floating in front of the moon? That SCREAMS 'ominous' to me.


I just assumed that was his messenger bird.
The gF
QUOTE(Nakranoth @ Mar 3 2008, 03:17 PM) [snapback]169488[/snapback]
That would be the crow/raven flying off.

And the two moons are still more or less in the same place relative to eachother, just lower in the sky... that means matter of hours, not days/weeks.

Or maybe this world doesn't work like you think it does.

Maybe this world is flat, and the sky is a dome.

Maybe it's only a paper moon sailing over a cardboard sea. But, you know...

It wouldn't be make-believe if you believed in me. <3
Elunii
I want to see what's happened to Cale sad.gif
If anything's happened to him...I'll...dance around wearing lime green squirrels on my head until I'm arrested by the fashion poilice!

On a slightly more relevant note...I noticed that the oncoming taurens don't appear to be as muscular as Krunch. Maybe this is because they are more 'feral', as other people here have suggested. Just logging my observations for you motley crew wink.gif
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