I'm a Latinist (a Latin-student, that is). Whenever someone says that the plural of forum is "forums", I growl to myself. The plural of all Latin words ending with -um is -a, therefore, the plural of Forum is Fora.

Likewise, whenever anyone mixes up communism and socialism, my temper flares. Communism is the idea that all of human history is marked by class struggle and that one day a worldwide revolution will overthrow the rich and create a worldwide commune. Socialism the idea that the government should tax rich people so it can enhance the living quality of the poor. I am a Socialist, and it's an insult to call me a communist.

Do you guys ever get annoyed by ignorant people from such minor issues, or is it just me?

[fora is the latin plural, but since the latin 'forum' and the internet 'forum' are two different things, 'forums' does work...]

edit: I'll rephrase that-------

In my opinion fora should only be used as a plural to forum ONLY when referring to the archaic, latin, meaning of the word. I agree that it's an acceptable form in the dictionaries, however, it does not conform to the english standard - and the electronic meaning of forum is most certainly a natural english word, thus making its sole acceptable plural forums.

the only thing that makes me upset is when people willingly believe things they hear from invalid sources (like, the communism:socialism thing you were talking about).

Then explain why the plural of cactus is cacti and antenna is antennae (even in English).

When those medieval Englishmen established this "Let's take both the singular forms and the plurals from Latin", they weren't kidding. It's irresponsible for newer generations to go changing that.

edit: Excuse me, have to edit this later to match with YOUR edits.

I will point out this isn't the only area English contradicts itself in favor of stupidity. Most people don't know forum is Latin so reasoning with this ignorance in mind it only makes since that people would make forum plural with and "s" instead of calling it fora.

Because english sucks! It's intricate (and other adjectives) when it wants to be, but it's got to be the most broken language in the world.
I never wanted to defend the english language, don't take it that way. But if someone is suggesting a new rule, the old ones have to be looked at.

Don't worry, it won't be for too much longer.

Of course, the inconsistency is because we're speaking English, not Latin. If you want to remove all the Latin-based words from our language for being misused, you're trying to take a little over half of them. And while we're at it, why not get rid of all the Greek words people think are Latin? I mean, it's just as silly to hear people pluralise octopus to octopi as to hear forum to forums.


All languages have a lot of this. English has a lot more than the others because it's the most successful. It's successful because it takes words from wherever it needs them. These days, we don't incorporate Romance languages or Germanic languages but we are picking stuff up from Japanese (especially) and a lot of Asian languages.

It's how language works. It's a living process. No language has ever been as neat as people like to imagine and no language ever will be. We use, adapt and abandon words as we go. Latin isn't a dead language, it's become other languages. French, Italian and Spanish are all direct descendants from Latin. Why don't you complain about them messing up their language? We're a Germanic language. If you want to come in here and complain about all the Old German words we've ruined, have at it. But you'd be wasting the same amount of time and energy for the same gain (which is nothing).

Whining about this is like complaining that the tide reforms the coast.

Newspeak?

(1984 by George Orwell)

I just get ticked from people who think they have to correct someone on every little thing even though it has no significance on his/her or your life. And will never cause a death in this world.

Like grammar, spelling, speech, etc. Just drop it and live life happily, let them do it how they want to.

I agree. People who are constantly correcting other people when they, themselves, have much about their lives that can be corrected. I believe it was a crazy man that once said: "Don't cast the first stone, it's not pretty." Or was it... "Judge not, let ye be judged." Something along those lines.

I like the "STFU" line more.
(And I hate drawing your character)

It buggers me that you can't draw my character. Just draw a female stick figure with a voidwalker bottom. XD

BEHOLD!!!!

It tried to do the curves and got it down but then the ass part threw me off.

Lustful.

What really bothers me is when people try to take my stuff. I absolutely can't stand other people touching my stuff! It pisses me off.

Your junk in your front trunk will be well protected by pants.

Also Lol at Artemicon.

And it's an artificial language that isn't really usable. And even then, it's probably just an adapted existing language. Not many people have the linguistical chops to break out a self-contained system of spelling and grammar.


I never really saw the appropriateness of that. If you can't correct someone else when they make a mistake because you're not perfect then nobody can ever correct or judge anybody.

Oh yeah, how could I forget this. Another thing that annoys me a lot is when people claim LFG is based in Azeroth.

Well excuuuuuuuuuuse me for probably having a slight OCD.

When have I ever suggested removing the words? I only want them to be pluralised correctly, in the way they have been for thousands of years.

When a practice that works, such as the pluralising of these words, is established and used for generations upon generations, why change it?

Oh yeah, the plural of ninja is ninja, by the way.

If that's your case, you should be learning Middle English at the least.

After all, that worked for generations.

It's impractical to ask for these types of things to be even remotely enforced. Especially with a language as morphologically flexible as English. After all, if at any time you need to bend a word in a way it normally doesn't (or if you can't remember how it is suppose to) we can just smash words together or bend them to make them fit.

I actually prefer a flexible language than something more rigid. It lets you be more exactish.

This is actually one of those little things that bug me, so much so that I had to register just to post about it... It bugs me when people take their beliefs and pretend that they reflect the entirety of the idea that title actually encompasses. For instance, Socialism has many different branches, and a very good number of those branches don't believe that "the government should tax rich people so it can enhance the living quality of the poor," nor do I like it when people oversimplify.

Also, the way we write the English language has in no way been established and used for generations and generations. If you look back to the turn of the 20th century, the way they write bears a good similarity to our own style, but jump back another century and you'll see that there was very little true agreement on proper writing technique except based on phonetics, which change quite readily with region and time.

It wasn't directed to you at all, infact I could say something similar like people thinking Americans have there own language. And call the speech "American". Which it is infact English.

Marginally.

Very well then, mister nitpick, let me fix that:

Accourding to Wiktionary, socialism is:

1. Any of various political philosophies that support social and economic equality, collective decision-making, and public control of productive capital and natural resources, as advocated by socialists.
2. The socialist political philosophies as a group, including Marxism, libertarian socialism, democratic socialism, and social democracy.
3. (Leninism) The intermediate phase of social development between capitalism and full communism. This is a strategy whereby the State has control of all key resource-producing industries and manages most aspects of the market, in contrast to laissez faire capitalism.
4. (Classical Marxism) The international communist society where classes and the state no longer exist.

The way I see it, the main thing connecting all the different philosophies that call themselves "socialist" is improving the life quality of the lower classes. About two thirds of these philosophies present the main way of doing this to be the high tax rates, and in most cases, tax rates increasing as incomes increase.

Now I hope I didn't ruin your life again by trying to make it simple enough for the random passers by.


Ah, I hate those guys too.

Yeah, I hate that too.

And I am lower class. Well, I used to be.

I hate leeches, not the animal mind you, but that slimy little infra human who sticks to you like the parasite it is and sucks away at your achievments, goals, etc.

Examples would include the college idiots, cool and bawdy amongst thier kin, but the most charming people you could ever concieve when in the class and youre the only one with the answers.

The guy at work who does nothing at all and always seeks to take advantage of the rules, last to come, fisrt to check out. And you, the bigger fool, and always a perfectionist do your best even overreaching to do the guys duties, but of course, the boss isnt there to see...

Basically i hate people who do not do what theyre supossed to do, and take advantage of others. Trust, loyalty and comitment are three of my most important beliefs and i hate, literally HATE people who try to pull it off on me or someone close to me

I hate people who act like the people they're talking too are their friends, while they remain blissfully unaware that either 1) everybody hates him/her, or 2) they just started talking to these people.

* Odd numbers

* Contractions

* People who walk in one direction while looking in another

* The word "outfit"

I do that.

In my defense, though, I never try to hide that I'm doing that. I'll tell people up front that I'll do it. I don't steal their ideas or nuthin'.


Uh oh. The other day I contracted an odd number while walking in one direction, looking in another while wearing an outfit!

Vile fiend! I shall destroy you!!

There's a queue.

Awwww. I hate waiting in line, too!

I get stepped on.

I don't think they're lining up. I think the current system is Take A Number.

I'll do that then. But it better not be an odd number, or my rage will increase!

1. School
2. People who call other people racist on the basis of their skintone
3. Jack Thompson
4. Pi (GAH! It never ends! 3.14159.... see?!)
5. Obsessively neat people
6. Obsessively slobby people
7. Sneezing
8. People who don't get the hint you want them to shut up and go away; there's a girl I used to be friends with who was like this and she caused a ton of trouble for me and another friend of mine.

I like how you quote a definition to prove your point, but the definition does nothing of the sort. Note how many of those definitions even mention the word tax. Mostly socialist beliefs actually center around state-run economies, not high-taxes. In practice, though, it seems that only your version of socialism has been recognized on a government-level, recently.

Anybody mention Mondays yet? Nope? well... they tick me off...

*shakes fist at monday morning*

Forums.
Eee hee hee!

Agreed!

Actually internet speak bothers me.
People who type with 'u' and 'u r' and other such things. Seems so illiterate.
I seem to be one of the very few who type in complete english on WoW, and they mistake me for an old man or an english teacher every time.

Oh yeah, then there's people who think World of Warcraft is the first game in its franchise. Then, when you mention playing Warcraft 3, they say: "Omg, there's two sequels to this game and they're still updating it? longisugfuis"

And then people who take MMOs too seriously, and loot-whores, and people who leave during an instance group and...

Actually, I'll just sum it up to 90% of WoW players.

Guess what day it is when I post this message =D

Well personally, I wanted to be the weird person and enjoy Mondays, and I do. I'm the only smiling face you'd see... (It's good to smile often anyway, it scares people.)

I personally hate people that correct my grammar. Mainly because I tend to drive the type of person that corrects people on their grammar nuts since English despite being born in America. I was born and raised in Louisiana until I was 4 then lived my grandmother and company that only speaks Cherokee till i was 11. I've forgotten most of both languages now though >.<.

I hate people who know English well enough, but don't bother writing it correctly. It's like... Driving sloppily because it's too hard to do it properly.

I don't see your point there...
people do that every day o.O

Whut u haz aganst mee?!?!?!?!?!!!!!111111

Tuesday?


It doesn't really matter what English-speaking nation you're from. You aren't taught English grammar.

Hell, if you don't learn another language (inflective languages are especially good at teaching you English grammar via contrast), you never get taught. For some reason, educators of old seemed to think that just because we all speak the language that we understand it.

They were wrong, for the most part.