I just started my first char on WoW. He's an Undead Warlock around lvl 12 or so. I'm upgrading off of my free trial tomorrow. I don't have any friends on the server so far, as I'm still on my free trial version, but would love to hook up with some new players. My character's name is Sinstained..... send me a /tell.

I will make a tauren druid on that server if you want some company.

Your Prison you mean. You know you never catch the dragon right?

realm

alternate termonology FTW!!!1!

Don't get another thread locked over grammar and semantics you troll, I said prison and meant it.

Well actually, he was just doing what you did, as you quote unquote changed the terminology from server to prison, so in order for him to get in any trouble what so ever, or for you to even come close to believing you can call him a troll, you would have to be seen as a guilty party yourself as well.

However I did it in a manner that wasn't correction but to make a point. His way was correcting (in troll terminology) "for the lolz", their is a difference and he has gotten two threads closed for the same thing, need links?

I wouldn't mind them

Welcome to WoW bahamut, should have guessed the warlock char from the name

If you ever end up on the EU servers then I am an ally dwarf hunter, so blame me if you get shot in the face

Also "a man is free whenever he wishes it" in answer to your statement about prison carcer

Quiet you two and lets get back on topic.

On topic: I might make an undead mage instead... not entirely sure.

No, i was there for each of them, and pen doesnt happen to be one of my favorite members so dont see this as me protecting him. However in this case it is fairly obvious that he was not speaking in a flamitory sense, and if you take his correction in a literal sense, you would see that his response couldnt be taken as a correction at all as prison and realm have totally different meaning in all but the smallest of uses. You just happen to be the type of person who thinks everyone is out to attack you, why i dont know but it can get kinda annoying. Just lighten up a bit. This is a friendly community for the most part and most of us are friends.

Edit: You are a quick one. Yes i know, anyway, i do believe a lot of people here actually have chars on DI, check the The LFG Guild Wants YOU thread and gl.

Good point, I may be over reacting because I happened to enjoy those two topics and don't want to see it happen a third time.

Back on topic, its good that you are rerolling allot Zoran. Odds favor that you will burn out on warcrack and move onto some good rpg faster.

what would YOU call a good RPG? You seem to dislike WoW quite a bit

Not necessarily, i rolled like 15 chars up to lvl 30, all alience before i finally settled on a char and made it to 50, than getting bored of the class rerolled again and am now at 65 and still playing. Crack just doesnt wear off.

I just keep changing classes cause I want to be able to do so many things. Druids are close to what I want but there efficiency to do one thing is lacking. So if I feel like being mister wise guy that shoots out fire balls then I will make a mage.

And I am not all "Into" RPGs, I enjoy the story it tells but the game aspect of RPG's kinda keep me away... unless its oblivion.

(I would also like to note that I have over 43 characters. Just went to count)

You can say you hate me, but I don't hate you back. The people in psychiatry says where I'm strong in mental capability I lack in common sense. o.O

Elder Scroll Series
Guild Wars
Nights of the old Republic
Mass effect
and any live action role playing.

*shrug* I like WoW still, like the lore myself

So now the question is, are you going to end up a Warcrack addict like most who start, or will you remember that there is life outside the screen? I started as the first thinking I could hold it back, but after a year realized the second.

Games Workshop refused to allow Blizzard the use of Warhammers lore thus Warcraft was born. I know the story all too well.

I know that, but its started to have new lore ideas.

Though have you seen the knew "varghulf" thing that they have brought out for the vampire counts? They are so cool

..
I resent that.

Josef bugman, that is very arguable. How you want play this out? Trust me, you can count all the original stories in wow on one hand and even then they are generic rehashed storyies about killing some over hyped retard and taking away his shiniest shiny things often dooming his intire kingdom/realm/race in the process. The vast majority of WoW lore "borrows" from something else. For the most part. the game is ever quest reskinned to look like warhammer and dumbed down so that anyone with an elementary school level education can play.

Well if that's the case, they do it very well.

Some of us don't even know what Warhammer is. Blizzard had to have succeeded somewhere.

*shrug* its your opinion, its just how people choose to put there own spin on it, a quick question though, which other fantasy thing has shown orcs in the traditional sense (big, green, betusked etc) as good guys?

You say it like dumbing down is bad to a certain extent? Why not have something that people can enjoy, or should fantasy only be allowed for people who can pronounce names with three k's and nine l's in their name?

I stated fact to, if I had more time I would play the, "name what you think is original in wow and I will tell you where it has been done before and better" game. I almost became a warcrack addict myself but my my DnD Dungeon Master happened to be an ex blizzard employee and told me there formula, addiction methods, etc.


Dumbing down=/simplifying, I'm all for shortening things to making things more casual or easer to injoy. For example win I play a character with difcult name I alse have a nick name that goes with it. No one wants to be that guy that is in character even after we are done playing.

alright, I was just asking if you had an example, excuse me for enquiring.

Your picking on the specifics but not the general thrust of my arguement, I like wow because it tells little stories as well as big ones, but you say that you don't like to see "dumbing down" as you call it, but what D&D story is not just a boring turgid mess of a genre, filled with so many types of damn thing under the sun, I have tried looking at the histories of some of them and I have wanted to gouge out my own eyes in frustration and rage.

I seem to like Prachett, Abnett and WoW in terms of fantasy stuff everything else seems a bit well exclusionary and in some cases quite daft, though I will respect other things if they are done well.

Sorry, just my (quite possibly nonsensical) 2 pence worth

Keeping up with lore is DMs job, just live your own story. Typically when I join a DnD (or any live action role playing) I fish for bad apples buy purposely getting lore slightly wrong (mostly semantically grammatically nothing too obvious) to fish out the people that would rather be right than have fun.

Sorry for pissing on your hobby but Blizzard genuinely worries me.

*shrug* then you have the luxury of being considered at the lowest level of the social scale if you roleplay, trust me on this, you think you are isolated in the US? You have NO idea how bad it would be over here

Alliance>Horde

WoW>All other MMORPGS.

It has 10 million players after all.

Anything else?

I know all the lore that concerns me, heal, understand the modesty rule and stay in character. I am pretty high on the social scale don't confuse laid back for lowly.



Linage 1&2 have over 15 million, may I alse point out 5.5 million of wows customers are Asian (not counting the ones in non Asian countries.) before you try and say linage doesn't count because it is an Asian mmo. Blizzard is only top in profit not people.

*shrug*

I am a nerd but I have some standards, I enjoy WoW, its fun

You have no integrity if you play wow! Sorry, >.< not officially saying it but I think it.

... the sad thing is that you actually think that.

*sigh* as I said I am not going to convince you, but do you follow the reasoning that "nothing is ever as cool as it is if no one but me likes it?"

Let's be civil shall we?

I guess your resident mod has no integrity because she plays Ultima Online, WoW, L2 and PotBS? eh?

Play nice or I will be banning a few people for 24 hours due to a lack of ability to be nice.

Catch the drift? Yes? Good.

sorry.

whats L2 if I may ask?

Lineage 2

Be fair I did slash it. Though look at from an outsiders prospective, can you credibly argue that the warcraft has integrity? Just look at the level of merchandising they have done, it would be considered selling out by anyone's standards if they had any integrity to begin with.

Thanks for not banning me I will play nice.

They actually do have standards compared to SOE. Which while I play PotBS, SOE has less integrity than a broken stick being walked on.

Edit addition: Btw, I volunteer for a very -large- gaming network. As well as being a real life reporter and my own personal experiences with several game companies, Blizzard, compared to EA and SOE, are saints. I havent had much relationship with NCSoft to make a decision on them yet.....minus Tabula Rasa and L2...)

That explains what happened to my conscience.

Unless you were specifying something other than moral integrity?


...SOE?

ZOMG....you people call yourself gamers.....

SOE=Sony Online Entertainment....the people who brought us Everquest, Everquest II, Stars Wars Galaxies, Vanguard, etc....

I do not! That is a generalization I find assuming and offensive.

Good. I finally offended someone on the forum. My work here is done!

Have you ever seen a SOE credit card? Integrity is harder to rate than other things since it continuous instead of discrete. Many people would say Shrek has integrity because it is a good movie. However when they advertise on every junk food known to man and do a health commercial, and the merchandising. Any integrity that was there is gone now.

Even if wow had a perfect record of never sacrificing gameplay for story, or vice versa (they don't). If you factor in the merchandising and advertising, the games integrity couldn't get any lower if they made the nude patch official and started 18+ servers.

That is cool.

Yes. They have EQII Credit cards.

They even have the option in EQ where if you type /pizza you can order pizza to be delivered.

Imagine that.

I stand corrected.

*runs behind, "other game companies being bad doesn't make them better" counterpoint and hopes for the best*

Oh I could go into comparisons for each one that i've had dealings/still have dealings with.

Fact of the mater is, they are all out for the money in the market of gaming.

And as a Capitalist American I like that. I also understand that they higher integrity you have the more people are willing to pay to get you to sale out and the more likely what you are doing will become iconic.

Simply put, telling people no will make them want something more.

and they don't want advertising as much on you if you sell out a lot because you might have an ATD.

Well... At my school "Book fair"last month they were selling WoW novels... NOVELS!

And what's sad is that my school's community is vehemently anti-WoW... D'ya know why? RUNESCAPE! THAT BLOODY MMO THAT SOMEHOW RACKED UP 9 MILLION ACCOUNTS, AND THOSE MMO-TARDS ARE GOING "DERR, LOOK AT ME, I PLAY WORLD OF WARCRAFT, I'M STUPID!" EVEN THOUGH THEY SHOULDN'T BE TALKING 'CAUSE THEY ARE PLAYING RUNESCAPE FOR CRYING OUT LOUD. AND EVERYTHING THEY KNOW ABOUT WOW COMES FROM ONE FRIGGIN' EPISODE OF SOUTH PARK!

Chill, people are always going to have something against you, your opinions, and your choices. Live with it or stop making choices, having opinions, or being you.