Lunatic1701
Dec 10 2007, 12:42 AM
On why it is futile to be an Illuminati /Shadow Council Conspiracy Theorist.
There are a number of Theories involving an illuminati or shadow-council who rule the world from the shadows and are striving for an ever greater degree of unified and totalitarian world government. Now, some of them present a fairly convincing argument. Some of them are obviously crackpots.
For most of these conspiracy theorists, the chosen medium of communicating their ideas is the internet. This is because it is easy for people to present themselves on the internet, it is easy for them to present their ideas and find seemingly large numbers of likeminded people.
It is important to note, I am not one of these people, not beyond a healthy curiosity and general interest in current affairs, even the extreme views on current affairs espoused by conspiracy theorists is interesting, as a social comment, whether it is true or untrue. Ultimately, however, to be a conspiracy theorist, or to be someone who espouses the views of a conspiracy theories. It is futile.
Whether or not they are right or wrong, protecting the rights and way of life we have today or simply spreading paranoid lies and half-truths, their presentations are futile. So few people believe the conspiracy theorists that their voices go completely unheard, by espousing the beliefs that they do, the automatically ostracise themselves from the accepted socio-political media, marking themselves as paranoid, a “crackpot” and thus not reaching an audience with sufficient weight to actually manage to mobilise the population against the object of their distaste.
If there is such a conspiracy it will not be the conspiracy theorists that stop it, or help to act against it. If there is any resistance beyond them it should, hopefully come from those who fight for democracy and justice on moral grounds and the feeling that they are fighting for what is right. If there is no resistance beyond them, they will be the ones rounded up and silenced when the take-over has happened.
Who’s to say that a conspiracy to take over the world as outlined in www.zeitgeistmovie.com is a bad thing? World unity sounds like a fairly desirable thing, and while absolute power corrupts absolutely. Corruption can include madness bringing down the corrupt. The only thing inevitable about any empire or hegemony on the world political stage is its fall. From Akkad to the British Empire, from the Roman Empire to the Maya every single one has experienced a decline from world leadership to a lesser or different form.
Grym
Dec 10 2007, 12:46 AM
Then what if they're right about something? What if there really are aliens from uranus controlling the government? eh?
Lunatic1701
Dec 10 2007, 12:48 AM
Then, in that scenario its futile, because the aliens already control the government and their target audience is far too small for them to make any impact.
Grym
Dec 10 2007, 12:52 AM
That was simply an example. What about other things?
Verbose
Dec 10 2007, 01:20 AM
You do understand that the hallmark of the conspiracy theorist is irrational paranoia?
Keyword; irrational.
They are impossible to sway with evidence and argument.
Randomati
Dec 14 2007, 04:14 AM
Besides. We all know that the Big Brother thing would be stopped. Everyone remembers Hitler, right?
MantaLord
Dec 14 2007, 04:43 AM
Oh indeed, we all know who rules the Earth quite plainly: Hugh Bliss, founder of prismatology.
Verbose
Dec 14 2007, 05:52 AM
QUOTE(Randomati @ Dec 14 2007, 02:14 PM) [snapback]135008[/snapback]
Besides. We all know that the Big Brother thing would be stopped. Everyone remembers Hitler, right?
You mean the guy who lost the war because he attacked Russia imprudently?
"Big Brother" is only overthrown a lot because all government styles are overthrown a lot.
Taz
Dec 14 2007, 03:39 PM
I fight against the flying spaghetti monster. I lead a crack team with the goal of overcooking him, thus weakening his power over gravity, and therefore curing the worlds obesity problem.
Are you telling me my goal is also futile?
Josef bugman
Dec 14 2007, 03:44 PM
afraid so Taz

.
But you may yet get the monster and create the most delicious pasta dish ever
Verbose
Dec 14 2007, 03:46 PM
The key is to have intrinsic worth, like me.
Josef bugman
Dec 14 2007, 03:52 PM
*beats head with stick* You really do have an ego that needs its own post code don't you verb?
Verbose
Dec 14 2007, 03:55 PM
I assume that our welcome into the United Nations is in the mail.
I'll refuse, of course. But still, it's nice to get asked once in a while.
Josef bugman
Dec 14 2007, 03:57 PM
Your calling yourself a "we" know?
Verbose
Dec 14 2007, 04:18 PM
Since we were separating my ego, I took the liberty.
Josef bugman
Dec 14 2007, 05:49 PM
verb, if we removed your ego I swear there would be a nice bloke left under it
Yannik
Dec 14 2007, 06:13 PM
Psh, Americans and their "Theories".
Verbose
Dec 15 2007, 02:57 AM
QUOTE(Josef bugman @ Dec 15 2007, 03:49 AM) [snapback]135109[/snapback]
verb, if we removed your ego I swear there would be a nice bloke left under it

If you removed my ego and all its accompanying arrogance, you'd probably find a bitter asshole with no redeeming features.
My joy is a gift to the world.
QUOTE(Yannik @ Dec 15 2007, 04:13 AM) [snapback]135110[/snapback]
Psh, Americans and their "Theories".
Especially all those Americans who happen to be English, eh?
Jaganshi
Dec 15 2007, 05:00 AM
QUOTE(Verbose @ Dec 14 2007, 08:57 PM) [snapback]135226[/snapback]
If you removed my ego and all its accompanying arrogance, you'd probably find a bitter asshole with no redeeming features.
My joy is a gift to the world.
I wonder what would happen if we just took out the bitter asshole and killed it then.
Verbose
Dec 15 2007, 05:28 AM
You assume there'd be anything left.
I'm a very empathetic person. I'm good at knowing, from various sources without conscious effort, what peoples moods are. It's part of starting as a "nice" person. I use that empathy to torment people. Everything that is good in me has been twisted for fun.
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