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GothicMoocow
My most favorite discussion has been turned into homework!
What exactly? >,<
"How Humans are evil..."
Suggestions are welcomed!
I can only pick one suggested item

It'll most likely be greed though... wink.gif

More on the topic of greed welcomed!
Super Gamer 117
What do you have to do for it? Do you need to write a report? Show a display? Do an experiment(wouldn't that be fun? wink.gif )?
GothicMoocow
QUOTE (Super Gamer 117 @ Dec 3 2007, 03:59 PM) *
What do you have to do for it? Do you need to write a report? Show a display? Do an experiment(wouldn't that be fun? wink.gif )?


English 101, No displays just 3-4 pages long...
Super Gamer 117
How about:

Why some humans are Evil:

Some my think that humans are always nice. Some think they are always mean. What's the solution? All of them are EVIL. It all took place a million years ago, when Richard still roamed the earth... tongue.gif
Grym
Here's a good paper:

'Stupidity is evil. Therefore, everyone in the U.S.A. is evil... Actually? Screw that. You're all fucking retarded, evil bastards. I hate this class. I hate you. Kill yourself.' Then just copy+paste 'I HATE YOU YOU SUCK' for the next three pages.
icecold
I think that Nietsche wrote something about Man being evil, go google it~!
Lunatic1701
Humans being evil is a very subjective subject. Firstly it is important to establish what is meant by the term 'evil'. Most human societies have some form of moral-code prohibiting the killing of other humans in all but exceptional situations, indeed the killing of another person is seen by many as a fairly distasteful action even in those situations. The killing of someone who is defenseless is almost universally an act which is considered to be past the line dividing acceptable and unacceptable behavior which defines what can be considered 'evil'.
It is not untill the neolithic with agriculture and thus the stratification of society caused by agricultural surpless (De Laet, 371, 1994) ((History of Humanity Volume 1, Prehistory and the beginings of civilisation, UNESCO, Paris)) that property becomes an important factor in human lives, appearing in graves with some graves being more richly endowed in goods than others (De Laet, 371, 1994). Thus it can be argued that almost all property based perceptions of good or evil stem from social stratificiation occuring due to an agricultural surpless (Martin Carver, PersComm, December 2007).

Theres my 150 odd word attempt from a vaguely Archaeological view.
Nietsche is a good thing for this task too. Other than than try disecting the various laws and moral bits of advice in the bible if you think you can get away with it without being attacked for it and don't mind viewing a religious text as an interesting bit of history not as the word of a deity.
The Lone David
Well, you could go into a history of atrocities: The Egyptian enslavement of the Jews, the Roman genocide of the Chistians, the crusades, the chinese genocide of Koreans, the genocide of the Native Americans, Slavery, The civil war, WWI The Armenian Genocide, WWII, The Holocaust, Apartheid, the Cold War, Saddam Hussein, The Sierra Leone rebellion, the Rwandan genocide, the Bosnian Genocide, Jihad in general... I could go on and on.
icecold
oh I think plato and aristoteles were of the opinion that Man was intrinsically good sooo you could but those opposite to nietsche and maybe sade or something and make a comperative things of it.
GothicMoocow
QUOTE (Lunatic1701 @ Dec 3 2007, 06:19 PM) *
Humans being evil is a very subjective subject. Firstly it is important to establish what is meant by the term 'evil'. Most human societies have some form of moral-code prohibiting the killing of other humans in all but exceptional situations, indeed the killing of another person is seen by many as a fairly distasteful action even in those situations. The killing of someone who is defenseless is almost universally an act which is considered to be past the line dividing acceptable and unacceptable behavior which defines what can be considered 'evil'.
It is not untill the neolithic with agriculture and thus the stratification of society caused by agricultural surpless (De Laet, 371, 1994) ((History of Humanity Volume 1, Prehistory and the beginings of civilisation, UNESCO, Paris)) that property becomes an important factor in human lives, appearing in graves with some graves being more richly endowed in goods than others (De Laet, 371, 1994). Thus it can be argued that almost all property based perceptions of good or evil stem from social stratificiation occuring due to an agricultural surpless (Martin Carver, PersComm, December 2007).

Theres my 150 odd word attempt from a vaguely Archaeological view.
Nietsche is a good thing for this task too. Other than than try disecting the various laws and moral bits of advice in the bible if you think you can get away with it without being attacked for it and don't mind viewing a religious text as an interesting bit of history not as the word of a deity.

I enjoyed the first paragraph and i must say your English is, well amazingly ... i dont have words to describe it lol.
Anyhow I reconsise what your trying to say, simply put "taboo"
Verbose
Money is the root of all evil. Only humans have money. Money is the root of humanity.

Pad that out a little and you're done.
icecold
and gold,rubies and other shinies!
Verbose
I think you misunderstood what I meant by "pad".
napalm_kills
Does it need to be necessarily about one of the "deadly sins," 'cause that's been played out time after time... you could make a suggestion that humans are like cancer, we just keep multiplying and destroying for as long as we wish. I know it's in one of those general "sins" themes, but that's why they're generalities. If you don't mention them it may seem less like one of the many other essays that cites them incessantly. I'm using cancer as the idea just for the fact that it gets a great emotional reaction from people, and you know that means a heated debate about how humans are/aren't like cancer. Hope that might help ya.
Verbose
An English paper is after one of two things. Creativity - which you can't fake - or Referencing Texts - which you won't get here.
Meggle
Imo just sit down with a piece of paper put any ideas that pop in your head on a paper pick the one you like the most and go from there...i've never had much luck from asking other people what i should write about.....we all have different views and ideas and you cant necissarily take something from someone elses opinions and write a paper about it, what if the teacher asks you how you came up with the idea? or why you do/dont feel so strongly about it tongue.gif
Sayuri Kajira
For sake of argument:

Man isn't 'evil.' Evil is subjective to the person's point of view and the situation. Man is inherently an animal and with such an association (go seek Darwin if you want to go more into depth on the evolution of Man), it stands to reason that he will be a complex structure of both self-absorption and socialism. While we require the need of a 'pride' we will always resort to doing something because we want to or it benefits us ans a singular person. Even the seven deadly sins stem from our selfish needs.

Example: 1. Lust -- To pleasure ourselves.
2. Envy -- To want something for ourselves
3. Greed -- To want material for ourselves
4. Gluttony-- To want to indulge ourselves
Praepropere - eating too soon
Laute - eating too expensively
Nimis - eating too much
Ardenter - eating too eagerly
Studiose - eating too daintily
Forente - eating too fervently

5. Wrath-- To wish harm on others to benefit ourselves
6. Sloth -- To be lazy when one chooses not to do anything
7. Pride -- That's just selfishness embodied.


It is becoming obvious that man cannot just avoid passions. Nature made man to live his authentic life in and with these passions, that for one to talk of passionless man is to be self contradicting. What is man if not a bundle of passions unfolding itself? If this proposition should serve as a definition, then it has the tendency of reducing man to the level of animals that are only instinctual. There is no doubt hence that man is an animal sundered from the rest by his rationality. Rationality makes man what he is. If rationality is removed from man, even for a second, he would definitely return to his animalistic stage where only instinct rules. But despite this, it seems that the animalistic nature of man, most often than not imposes on him the tendency to live beyond the expectations of his rational self. What would have cause this except that man easily succumb to the dictates of his irrational self, sometimes, to the detriments of his rational being. The irrational self in man should be our concern in this work and this is what I regard as passions of man.


We should not also neglect the fact that passions of man is not only negative or opposing to virtues. They are not totally wrong and misleading. This is a fact. Passions build man, and the same passions destroy him. Passions are like fire. When fire is well guarded and controlled, it becomes the most reliable servant and friend you can ever think of. On the contrary, if you leave fire to grow wild, destruction is imminent. Likewise, guarded passions breeds an authentic man. Man devoid of passion is already in his grave. Passions of man serve him better when the man in question is capable of controlling it. Our act of the mind called will-power is therefore essentially needed for these passions to be put in check. When one’s will-power is weak, passions are capable of playing its destructive games on the person. Will-power is an act of the mind, born out of rationality endowed to man, that enables him to make decision on his own and hold on to that decision no matter the consequences that would eventually follow. Every rational man suppose to have this will-power. It is this will-power that is nursed to control our passions. It tells us when to act, when to withdraw from action, when to react and the manner to do so.

Passions are as bad in grade as their being good. They build good and serene human society, but later destroy it. Passion is a servant as well as a master. In either of these two, it goes to the extreme. Man, being naturally engrossed in passion could not get himself liberated from it. Man is ontologically, a product of passion. To this extent, we could remember that even the very semen that produced man was released at the climax of passion. Following this example, one could reason with me that it is practically impossible to remove passion when issues relating the whole being of man is being discussed.

From birth, man moves towards his passions. His passions increase daily as the child is gradually growing into a man. The passion to survive moves the child to weep whenever it is hungry or tasty. This unconscious behaviour is to impose compassion on those around, for them to satisfy its demands. Passion has led many to sexual gratifications. Sexual tendency as a passion in animal pushes it intercourse which invariably leads to prolongation of the animal species. Passion has tied up friends in an unconditional love. The same passion has made a mother to offer her own life in order to save her child. Passion to dominate, has built up many destructive weapons that keep many weaker societies in great fear of being trampled upon by their stronger counterparts. United Nations is a product such a passion. Passion of anger has terribly destroyed many homes, sent many to their early graves and violated seriously the law of human rights. When passions have nothing positive to contribute to the society and the well being of mankind, such passion is regarded as being erroneous. Many other atrocities committed by erroneous passions can never be totally exhausted here and now. But by the way of introduction, I just want to create the awareness that the most terrible enemy of mankind has been discovered. It has been eating deep into the marrows of men, undiscovered. I have the intention then to unmask the enemy who is no other person except the unthinking self in man. The irrational self, otherwise called passion.
Neomancer
Bravo Lisa. acceptance of passion wihout being ruled by it. Sounds like Nietzsche's Ubermensche.
Sayuri Kajira
I think that's the most profound thing I've said yet.
GothicMoocow
QUOTE (Verbose @ Dec 4 2007, 12:19 AM) *
Money is the root of all evil. Only humans have money. Money is the root of humanity.

Pad that out a little and you're done.

Yea was thinking about branching out to cigg smoke and companys and how they pay ppl off, all for money all for greed!

QUOTE (napalm_kills @ Dec 4 2007, 03:52 AM) *
Does it need to be necessarily about one of the "deadly sins," 'cause that's been played out time after time... you could make a suggestion that humans are like cancer, we just keep multiplying and destroying for as long as we wish. I know it's in one of those general "sins" themes, but that's why they're generalities. If you don't mention them it may seem less like one of the many other essays that cites them incessantly. I'm using cancer as the idea just for the fact that it gets a great emotional reaction from people, and you know that means a heated debate about how humans are/aren't like cancer. Hope that might help ya.

Ppl are cancer, interstin idea...

QUOTE (Verbose @ Dec 4 2007, 04:11 AM) *
An English paper is after one of two things. Creativity - which you can't fake - or Referencing Texts - which you won't get here.

Lol i always go with creativity
QUOTE (Meggle @ Dec 4 2007, 04:50 AM) *
Imo just sit down with a piece of paper put any ideas that pop in your head on a paper pick the one you like the most and go from there...i've never had much luck from asking other people what i should write about.....we all have different views and ideas and you cant necissarily take something from someone elses opinions and write a paper about it, what if the teacher asks you how you came up with the idea? or why you do/dont feel so strongly about it tongue.gif


I'm a man of evil... He once had me write a paper on how domestic violence was bad.. and something like that..
I knew he was abused while he was a child, and i didnt care i wrote about how it was their problem not mine and for them to be strong enough to do something about it... actually my paper was alot meanier, but yeaaa
I dont give a shit about motivational papers.
Your right, other ppls ideas arent mine own so it might be harder to write something soley on that core idea, but thats why i have my own idea and i'll incorporate theirs into mine...
QUOTE (Sayuri Kajira @ Dec 4 2007, 12:20 PM) *
I think that's the most profound thing I've said yet.

Wait till i have time to reply to it, So far i've made christains reject their religion, with any luck i can destroy all your thoughts and ideas of reality
Sayuri Kajira
rolleyes.gif Good luck. Peopel are still trying to understand me. How I can kill you and tell you I love you with a smile. Besides, if anyone is going to convert me from Tantric Hindi, it will be Peter Faulk.
Grym
Does that mean I could half-convert you?
GothicMoocow
QUOTE (Sayuri Kajira @ Dec 4 2007, 12:59 PM) *
rolleyes.gif Good luck. Peopel are still trying to understand me. How I can kill you and tell you I love you with a smile. Besides, if anyone is going to convert me from Tantric Hindi, it will be Peter Faulk.

The fact that you can be on here for so much time, means you have no life, well its not worth my time then.
Sayuri Kajira
Of course I have no life. Please, if I had one I would be participating in it. I just happen to connect well with those who, like me, have no life. That's how I met Dave!
Grym
I bet I have less life!
Sayuri Kajira
Gothic is just angry that I was able to come up with something profound and debunk any previous explainations.

That's right... bask in the glow of my glory.
Grym
But.... Your glory might melt all the snow!
Sayuri Kajira
That's possible, but its a risk I'm willing to take.
Grym
But what about the yeti's?
Verbose
QUOTE (GothicMoocow @ Dec 5 2007, 05:58 AM) *
Wait till i have time to reply to it, So far i've made christains reject their religion, with any luck i can destroy all your thoughts and ideas of reality

Who hasn't done that? There are millions of people who are "christian" because they were told to be and most of them drop it at the wave of your hat.

I've made two people rethink the idea that all human beings are good deep inside (one abandoned it, the other concluded that while it's true sometimes that part is so deep you may as well abandon it) but that doesn't make me an excellent rationalist. It just makes me a very horrible person.
GothicMoocow
Well my topic is due, right now, this class that i happen to be writtin in....
Anywho, its greed, other then taht i aint got shit, no topic sentence or tittle ;P
ahwell
Sayuri Kajira
Did you not pay attention to anything I wrote or did the massive amounts of passionate knowledge escape you? Honestly, its a different way of seeing Man not as the civilized being he portrays himself as but rather as the member of the animal kingdom he naturally is.
icecold
on a sidenote, a life is overrated
GothicMoocow
QUOTE (Sayuri Kajira @ Dec 5 2007, 09:05 AM) *
Did you not pay attention to anything I wrote or did the massive amounts of passionate knowledge escape you? Honestly, its a different way of seeing Man not as the civilized being he portrays himself as but rather as the member of the animal kingdom he naturally is.

mhm it was nice, but write something about Greed, And Cigarettee companys.
Teacher ristricted my paper >_>

I) Intro - About Greed
II)climax or what not about the story we read
III)cigg company ;P
Iv) i should of payed more attention >_>?
Sayuri Kajira
dry.gif Do you even know what your thesis is supposed to be about? Are you arguing the greed of cigarette companies or the evil of mankind?
icecold
Or the evil of the greed of the men working at cig companies? tongue.gif

tar ftw
GothicMoocow
QUOTE (Sayuri Kajira @ Dec 5 2007, 12:00 PM) *
dry.gif Do you even know what your thesis is supposed to be about? Are you arguing the greed of cigarette companies or the evil of mankind?

Nope
QUOTE (icecold @ Dec 5 2007, 12:04 PM) *
Or the evil of the greed of the men working at cig companies? tongue.gif

tar ftw

Yep.


Dont matter to much to me right now, it will the last day its due.
>_> dam. Missed my tuition deadline. Ahwell I already payed 400$ today,
they can eitheir wait another hour or give me my cash back wink.gif
icecold
Good going there tongue.gif

you have the working attitude of the average student.

which is still better than mine...

I suck.

In my defence, I ussually know what i'm going to write about.
Sayuri Kajira
dry.gif Well, I feel as if my wisdom was totally wasted. Excuse me while I go back to my swing of disillusioned enlightenment.
icecold
Wisdom is never wasted, <insert something witty>.

you're welcome
GothicMoocow
QUOTE (Sayuri Kajira @ Dec 5 2007, 12:14 PM) *
dry.gif Well, I feel as if my wisdom was totally wasted. Excuse me while I go back to my swing of disillusioned enlightenment.

it wasnt if you think its just practice
never using your wisdom shall make your mind rot much
rawr rawr if u rly want, your welcome to write my paper happy.gif
icecold
now, let's estimate what the chance of that is
Josef bugman
rearrange the following into a well known phrase or saying "Chance snowball as hell in much has as"
Sayuri Kajira
I would, but then I wouldn't get credit for it and my English professor would bring me much bodily harm. she's already threatened to chop me up into little pieces and bury me in her backyard.
icecold
I like your teachers way of thinking.
Josef bugman
are you sure your teacher isn't you from an alternate future?
Sayuri Kajira
I guarantee you that she is. She even looks like me, its scary. She says the only reason she hasn't killed me off yet is because I'm supposed to become some famous writer (yeah right) and make her money (in her dreams).
Josef bugman
Probably more than likely smile.gif

I'll look out for any published books biggrin.gif
Sayuri Kajira
"How to Eat Shit and Die: The Better Way To Shut the Fuck Up" by Dr. L.L. Mitchell.
icecold
I love it already.
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