Solaran_X
Nov 28 2007, 06:15 AM
So...in 1803 we, the United States of America, purchased what would become the state of Louisiana - along with Arkansas, Missouri, Iowa, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, half of Minnesota, most of North Dakota and South Dakota, a quarter of New Mexico, half of Texas, and a bit of Wyoming, Colorado, and Montana. A pretty good deal for $23,213,568.
Unfortunately, the state of Louisiana has cost our government far more than we paid for it and all the rest of the Louisiana Purchase. Therefore, I propose to sell back Louisiana (and only Louisiana) to the French for the bargain basement price of $1.00.
Guh?
Nov 28 2007, 06:20 AM
What would make the French want it back?
Besides the food of course.
Rae-Rae =^.^=
Nov 28 2007, 06:43 AM
Does this have anything to do with a recent LICD strip, or plain ol' curiosity?
Solaran_X
Nov 28 2007, 07:01 AM
QUOTE (Rae-Rae =^.^= @ Nov 28 2007, 01:43 AM)

Does this have anything to do with a recent LICD strip, or plain ol' curiosity?
The LICD strip motivated it, but I always wondered why we kept Louisiana. I mean...it's a state-sized swamp. It probably has more gators than citizens. I gotta wonder...did they count the gators AS citizens when they gave it statehood?
Rae-Rae =^.^=
Nov 28 2007, 07:15 AM
I dunno, but they counted slaves as 3/5 of citizens.
Solaran_X
Nov 28 2007, 07:34 AM
You think $1.00 USD is fair market value for that swampland? Or am I ripping the French off in my offer?
Hunter
Nov 28 2007, 09:08 AM
Hey, selling that territory sounds like cutting and running from the war on the enviroment, since the US has policies in place for perpetual war I don't think the french are going to get any more of North America than the two Islands just off the coast of Newfoundland.
Sayuri Kajira
Nov 28 2007, 03:10 PM
For sake of argument: selling Louisiana might help to cure our national deficit if we can haggle the French into thinking its a good deal. However, they might want the other states back as well and I'm not going to become French because my family strings from Minnesota.
SenbeiRoshi
Nov 28 2007, 04:40 PM
Yes, and besides, Texas > France, so I think we (Texans) should get Louisiana and turn it into the worlds largest water park... We've gotten pretty good at turning swamplands into usable, profitable territory, just look at Houston...
Sayuri Kajira
Nov 28 2007, 04:48 PM
The question is-- who is a good enough salesman to put it out on the market?
SenbeiRoshi
Nov 28 2007, 06:43 PM
Just stick it up on Ebay, someone will bid on it...
Sayuri Kajira
Nov 28 2007, 07:11 PM

You honestly think France is going to look it up on Ebay? Honestly.
SenbeiRoshi
Nov 28 2007, 08:32 PM
Just link it to an auction for week old baguettes, they'll find it.
Sayuri Kajira
Nov 28 2007, 08:52 PM

I hear good chardonnay is going good on the black market.
Grym
Nov 28 2007, 09:42 PM
They should just sell it to Bill Gates >.<
The Lone David
Nov 28 2007, 11:33 PM
I'll buy it. I could use some land to build my fortress of solitude.
Grym
Nov 28 2007, 11:45 PM
And a place for the colliseum that needs building? So you can pit luckless slaves against each other?
Neomancer
Nov 28 2007, 11:47 PM
And to rid himself of his enemies, despite that tbhe evil overlord list recomends against it.
Grym
Nov 28 2007, 11:49 PM
Bah, they'll just put the poison on the wrong blade. That's always how it works.
Neomancer
Nov 28 2007, 11:53 PM
True. However, since he'll be in Louisiana anyhoo, he could just kill them off with really scicy cajun food. ( damn, now I'm salivating and hungry.)
The Lone David
Nov 29 2007, 12:11 AM
Me too, Neo you fucker.
*Walks off leaving a river of drool behind him* Need crawfish, gumbo, and chicken.
Zoran
Nov 29 2007, 01:04 AM
QUOTE (Solaran_X @ Nov 28 2007, 12:15 AM)

Therefore, I propose to sell back Louisiana (and only Louisiana) to the French for the bargain basement price of $1.00.
You can kiss my Scottish ass if you want to sell it back! Insulting my state, I spit on you! -spit-
Bastard.
The Lone David
Nov 29 2007, 02:46 AM
How unsanitary, just another reason to hate the damn state.
Also, it surprises me how many people have claimed to be Scottish after Hunter and I said we were.
Be leaders, not followers guys.
Josef bugman
Nov 29 2007, 11:04 AM
I'm as english as they come and proud of it

.
But seriously what is this place called louisiana you guys seem so het up about?
Lunatic1701
Nov 29 2007, 06:54 PM
Why would any europeans want lousiana anymore? It's not really what springs to mind when one things of bits of America I would like to own...
And if the French sold it in the first place why the hell would they want it back now?
And do the inhabitants of the state want to be sold?
This raises many questions.
Dro
Nov 29 2007, 07:08 PM
QUOTE (SenbeiRoshi @ Nov 28 2007, 11:40 AM)

Yes, and besides, Texas > France, so I think we (Texans) should get Louisiana and turn it into the worlds largest water park... We've gotten pretty good at turning swamplands into usable, profitable territory, just look at Houston...
Why don't you Texans just ceed from the Union? You're constitutionally allowed to.
SenbeiRoshi
Nov 29 2007, 07:24 PM
QUOTE (Dro @ Nov 29 2007, 01:08 PM)

Why don't you Texans just ceed from the Union? You're constitutionally allowed to.
Well, the primary reason is we like the resources we get from the rest of the country. We have some of the lowest costs of living in the US. Plus D.C. would not like us taking the Johnson Space Center, or two of the world's largest hospitals and airports with us. Not to mention the numerous military bases, many of them strategic supply depots, advanced research facilities, and the Alamo.
Don't worry though, when G.W. declares martial law due to a state of emergency, the U.S. Capital will be moved to Austin, and we will be renamed the United States of Texas, right before we annex Mexico and Canada.
The Lone David
Nov 29 2007, 09:19 PM
I don't want Canada, bunch of frickin' weirdos up there
Zoran
Nov 29 2007, 10:32 PM
QUOTE (The Lone David @ Nov 28 2007, 08:46 PM)

How unsanitary, just another reason to hate the damn state.
Also, it surprises me how many people have claimed to be Scottish after Hunter and I said we were.
Be leaders, not followers guys.
And so you now think everyone else here isn't?
Sayuri Kajira
Nov 29 2007, 10:45 PM

By the way, anyone want a slightly used California?
The Lone David
Nov 29 2007, 10:51 PM
I'll make a straight up trade for Illinois.
Grym
Nov 29 2007, 10:53 PM
I Like New York..
The Lone David
Nov 29 2007, 10:54 PM
Someone buy Illinois from me, I need to get back to New Hampshire before I completely lose my accent.
Grym
Nov 30 2007, 12:36 AM
You could ask your parents if you could go skydiving in new hampshire, then accidentaly get 'lost'
Lunatic1701
Nov 30 2007, 12:43 AM
Or you could come to Vannila Hampshire.
Verbose
Nov 30 2007, 08:47 AM
QUOTE (The Lone David @ Nov 29 2007, 12:46 PM)

Also, it surprises me how many people have claimed to be Scottish after Hunter and I said we were.
Be leaders, not followers guys.
Yeah. Lead your ancestors, don't follow them.
They're from Scotland? Forget that noise! Go back in time and relocate them somewhere interesting, like Prussia. Then you get to be Prussian.
Hunter
Nov 30 2007, 01:18 PM
QUOTE (SenbeiRoshi @ Nov 29 2007, 11:24 AM)

right before we annex Mexico and Canada.
Isn't going to happen, first off, if America too Mexico your beyond fucked up federal system would just break with how worse off it is there than in the US, second, Canada is never going to be taken over by the US, last time you tired to take us over we burned down your White House while the citizens pillaged and looted stores and homes. Besides all that our knowledge of the Metric measuring system is too much for your average American to handle, really your public schools suck. Nice try come again.
Tiamat the Divine
Nov 30 2007, 02:34 PM
I don't think selling France back all the land gained in the Louisiana purchase will help the U.S. in getting their money back. Besides $23,213,568 was the amount paid back in 1803, with present day inflation I hardly doubt the government of France even has the money to pay half the inflation cost without damaging their own economy. Even all the countries in Europe combined wouldn't make that purchase cuz it's not worth the money, nor time to deal with. And selling the state of Louisiana only, wouldn't sit well with the south anyway, plus the amount of paper work invovled ain't worth it. So sadly, the U.S. is stuck with what was bought back in 1803. Pity, to bad it's risks are greater than it's value.
Deathwing
Nov 30 2007, 02:43 PM
well, im not sure anyone would want to buy our lands? i mean... its right in the middle of US territory and to boot... they would be surrounded by our military forces..
so i would say no ones going to buy it unless they are crazy enough to put down some military power to keep the us from doing anything to take it back.
besides, the french dont want that land... its full of americans, not many french folk living in Louisianna now a days ( to my knowledge)
Sayuri Kajira
Nov 30 2007, 03:45 PM
I say we do a two-for-one deal. California, while totally fun and interesting, is really beginnign to wear thin on me. Plus, I'm sure there are plenty of foreign countries willing to buy it for Hollywood / Beverly Hills alone. (Of course, to be shrewd businessmen we'll have to lease those out separately).
...And I'm proud to be Sioux and Dakota. I don't know if I could handle being Scottish.
Deathwing
Nov 30 2007, 05:40 PM
not to mention california is one of the dry states that has fires almost everyday...
personally id want to trade california for say... Amsterdam lol who knows.. we could get some uses out of it
Sayuri Kajira
Nov 30 2007, 06:10 PM
Trade? No, no, lease... We're leasing California. Sheesh.
Deathwing
Nov 30 2007, 06:16 PM
ok ok.. lease it, then richard will come out of nowhere and burn it all... and blame it on the farmboy who got away back in the 3rd comic strip lol
but its never going to happen, american wont sell the land we already own... besides, it wouldnt be the united states of america anymore, it would be the Divided States of america
Sayuri Kajira
Nov 30 2007, 06:24 PM
Technically, we don't own it. If you think about it-- we stole most of it from the natives that lived here, some of it from Mexico and basically blackmailed everyone else for the rest. In essence, we just stake true claim to the original thirteen colonies. No one is willing to really take back the land only because they're all waiting for us to be stretched thin in our military so they can divide and conquer. Its almost ingenious.
SenbeiRoshi
Nov 30 2007, 07:43 PM
QUOTE (Sayuri Kajira @ Nov 30 2007, 12:24 PM)

Technically, we don't own it. If you think about it-- we stole most of it from the natives that lived here, some of it from Mexico and basically blackmailed everyone else for the rest. In essence, we just stake true claim to the original thirteen colonies. No one is willing to really take back the land only because they're all waiting for us to be stretched thin in our military so they can divide and conquer. Its almost ingenious.
Precisely why Texas has not withdrawn from the Union. We bide our time, wait for our president to set the stage, and Bam, U.S.T.
The Lone David
Nov 30 2007, 11:30 PM
Your president has about as much intelligences as a crumbling brick though so it didn't really work.
Grym
Nov 30 2007, 11:39 PM
QUOTE (Hunter @ Nov 30 2007, 08:18 AM)

Isn't going to happen, first off, if America too Mexico your beyond fucked up federal system would just break with how worse off it is there than in the US, second, Canada is never going to be taken over by the US, last time you tired to take us over we burned down your White House while the citizens pillaged and looted stores and homes. Besides all that our knowledge of the Metric measuring system is too much for your average American to handle, really your public schools suck. Nice try come again.
...
Can I move to Canada?
SenbeiRoshi
Dec 1 2007, 12:41 AM
QUOTE (The Lone David @ Nov 30 2007, 05:30 PM)

Your president has about as much intelligences as a crumbling brick though so it didn't really work.
He's just being a good boy and doing what daddy and his friends are telling him to. The real brains are staying safely hidden, while their stooge's threat is ignored due to carefully scripted screwups. Which is how legislation got slipped past the House and the Senate, which would allow the President to declare martial law without congressional approval. The old bloodlines will be restored to power. Mark my words.
Deathwing
Dec 1 2007, 01:33 AM
and we are now getting into politics... thread please?
but you know what.. im going to move to japan so i dont really care if the US goes downhill.. i mean, yeah im american.. but i never really like this place never was my calling even with my german heritage..
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But no ones gonna go buying back the louisiana territories.. simple as that..
The Lone David
Dec 1 2007, 03:17 AM
I can't tell you how sick I am of hearing people bitching about how good it is overseas, just stop complaining and move.
D-wing, this really isn't about you, I'm just ranting in general, and if you do seriously intend to move though actually do it. Don't sit around pretending that the rest of us give a crap about some beef you have with the state of the country. Yeah, we all know the US is going downhill, but you don't see the rest of us complaining nonstop about how much better it would be to live overseas. America is a great country to live in, one of the best if not the best. We have our problems but so does every other country in the world, just find your place and stay there.
*deep breath, count to ten*
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