I LOVE this new serious Cale. As my friend described it, he's gone from happy go lucky to emo. I think it's brilliant.

I'd like to dedicate this song to Cale:

Where is the moment we needed the most
You kick up the leaves and the magic is lost
You tell me your blue skies fade to grey
You tell me your passion's gone away
And I don't need no carryin' on

You stand in the line just to hit a new low
You're faking a smile with the coffee to go
You tell me your life's been way off line
You're falling to pieces everytime
And I don't need no carryin' on

Cause you had a bad day
You're taking one down
You sing a sad song just to turn it around
You say you don't know
You tell me don't lie
You work at a smile and you go for a ride
You had a bad day
The camera don't lie
You're coming back down and you really don't mind
You had a bad day
You had a bad day

Well you need a blue sky holiday
The point is they laugh at what you say
And I don't need no carryin' on

You had a bad day
You're taking one down
You sing a sad song just to turn it around
You say you don't know
You tell me don't lie
You work at a smile and you go for a ride
You had a bad day
The camera don't lie
You're coming back down and you really don't mind
You had a bad day

(Oh.. Holiday..)

Sometimes the system goes on the blink
And the whole thing turns out wrong
You might not make it back and you know
That you could be well oh that strong
And I'm not wrong (yeah, yeah, yeah, yeeeah)

So where is the passion when you need it the most
Oh you and I
You kick up the leaves and the magic is lost

Cause you had a bad day
You're taking one down
You sing a sad song just to turn it around
You say you don't know
You tell me don't lie
You work at a smile and you go for a ride
You had a bad day
You've seen what you like
And how does it feel for one more time
You had a bad day
You had a bad day

(Oh, yeah, yeaaah, yeah)
Had a bad day
(Oh, had a bad day)
Had a bad day
(Oh, yeah, yeah, yeeeeah)
Had a bad day
(Oh, had a bad day)
Had a bad day...
Had a bad day...

Here, here! I am overjoyed to see Cale going down the dark, evil, brooding path. Richard has work to do...

I think he's still punishing himself for killing the child, and his words may reflect an 'I don't care anymore' attitude. It may be too soon to assume that he's changed his alignment. That's just my opinion.

Nothing particularly original about a character being emo, or being the opposite alignment of everyone else of his race. Cale severely reminds me of Drizzt. Weapon choice is, at least, fairly close as well.

Forever Emo Cale is bad. We need the silly naive in the group.

I think one line and a hella cool pose (definately a step up from his ' Hero ' pose) is a little to soon to be hailing him as the emo king. Aside from the obvious fact that emos are society's bottom-feeders.

I mean, the guy's been brooding for three weeks now, did y'all really think that he'd jump up in a burst of flowers and sunshine at the mention of getting to save innocents? Especially given the reason he's been brooding for a few weeks is because [he thinks] he killed one deliberately?

I'm sure Richard's puppet shows didn't help. ^.^

i'm also liking this. he kinda gives the appearance that he just looks at evil more bluntly than the first page

I dislike the weepy-Cale. I also agree that he is still mourning the loss of the child. I hate seeing people sad. D:
I believe (hope) he will find a way to cheer up soon.

o_O


This calls for heartlessly cruel puppet shows!!!

Yaaaay! -claps-

I like the fact that Cale's character is developing. Still, I prefer maturing to brooding. I'm fully prepared to give cuddles until he cheers up. I'm immune to Rabies' whippings.

So, would Tavor be jealous or relieved then?

Tavor knows how I feel.

I love Cale the way I love my turtle plushies. They're cute and fun to cuddle. Tavor on the other hand...*dreamy sigh*

Riiight.

*to Tavor* pssst. run, nows your chance man....

I'll just have to step them up a little then.

*grabs electrified tazer whips*

...

*and some onions*

>.>

Listen, between having his entire family wiped out, dying horribly, and being imprisoned in a pair of swords for 3,000 years, I'm pretty sure I'm the best thing that's ever happened to Tavor.

Riiight.

...

*twitch*

I hate the internets some times >.>

Anyway...

So why don't you go bother be with Tavor, then?

*makes 'shooing' gestures at 'Naya*

*slowly pulls Cale away, shoving him into weapon space*

...

*gives Cale a cookie*

>.>

Hello Everyone , first post so please don't rip my head of my shoulders and spit down my neck .

I don't think we have seen enough of the new Cale to make an informed judgement yet, sure he is mercenary at the moment but thats what most heroes have been at one time or another. Most likely either saving the village or helping someone else in the future will give Cale back some measure of his self esteem.

Also I think even I would draw the line at what Tavor is doing, he may have been stuck in a pair of swords for longer than the roman empire lasted, but even then there is no reason to threaten unarmed octaginarians.

Thank you

Fresh meat! nah thats okay I think I still fall under that category too. I also highly agree to one vital point: we've only seen one slide of the 'new' Cale. I also moderatley disagree with you're point about Tavor. Its not that he was stuck in a pair of swords for 3k+years. It is that you have a lot of time to sit, think, and plot while you are stuck in a pair of swords for 3k+ years. Kinda like Benny said about the Beholder when they saw him... couple thousand years of lonely gets to you after a while.

Meh, I sort of expected his mind to fold like a paper hat anyway anyone whose last words are "Avenge my death" or similar clearly does not take new developments to heart "But the person who killed you is now part of the earth" "I don't care" etc etc.

Also, I think that the new Cale might be good , hell Conan was a lot worse than what we have seen of Cale thus far .

Cale was good. People are just speculating about how killing a child and three weeks of solitude to think on it have affected him.

Oh, don't worry, we don't spit down peoples necks here. *zzzzip*

I do premptorially agree that it's too soon to hail the new Cale. No, that wasn't supposed to rhyme.

Do you rhyme at any time? Do you do it on a plane do you do it on a train? I do not like green eggs and ham, I do not like them sam I am.

*Cough*

Yes in short there seems to be nothing to judge the new Cale on

I need to work on my aim...

Cale was cool the way he was, but i guess it's too weird to see him act this way. i'm sure we'll be seeing our old Cale soon, tho. heh.

Not neccesarily, Most likely he will never be exactly the same "Willing to see the dark and the light" may be a more likely outcome, but we are not here to randomly propose new theory's on Cale....

And if we are I think that Cale goes back in time and becomes the king of Gamlon that he said he admired

eh, probably

So do you think he'll be more or less tolerant of Richard now?

Well it depends, he might end up seeing that Richard's methods get results and start using them but without the abject joy that Richard has. On the other he might see Richard as what he could become if he embraces the darkness too much and start stabbing the ghastly old revanant , either way it will be darn cool to see

Probably about the same.... or he'll just ignore him for the time being. Poor Richie-poo, I can't see him taking being ignored too lightly.

He reminds me of two things.
1) Cale after he got his spirit back in him in gutters' fanfic, and
2) Me, after I started being a very nice and helpful person. (I always wondered what happened. Now I know my innocence ran away.)
So I like the new Cale. I can associate with him.

I dunno, I can see him going three weeks with a brooding Cale and not doing anything to him even less. Which means he must have been ignored. Seems to have managed though...wonder how he got with them sanddragons?

Probably none too well, what with him being flung through a window .
Though who knows , can anyone say "Epic mount" Joking

You joke now, but do not underestimate the power of Richard. The very fact that he wasn't messing with the sanddragons anymore entails that he managed to assert his role as the alpha male succesfully. (Or he got bored with it.) You joke now, but at the first hint of epic battle, do not be surprised if a raging sanddragon bursts on the scene with a maniacal worlock perched on its shoulders.

Those where nether dragons.... but yea I think Richard got tired of killing sand dragons and moved on to pillaging the city.

I somehow doubt it mate, they are dragons, and no matter how powerful a warlock Richie is he is still getting punted through windows

Plus he would have got bored now that he has broken out the pillaging kit

Perhaps you missed the part where he turns one to glass? Punted through a window though he may have been, I highly doubt he didn't kill a few. I am not saying he ran out of sand dragons to kill, only that, as you agreed, he got bored of killing them whilst attempting to train them. Thus his pillaging shovel.

well, i don't know, i do like that he is progressing but i think he should cheer up eventually, don't get me wrong a depressed elf is fun for us all for a bit but not forever, and i bet he will be happy again after some soul searching and a bit of well placed revenge

Hey, you guys asked for character development, you got it. Now stop complaining :-p

Character development, not copying. Have any of you read the full Drizzt trilogy? I swear he's only a hands breadth from a full color copy of the do-gooder drow. The story may be different, but the character isn't that far off.

Considering this is a spoof of a lot of fantasy literature...

And yes, I have read R.A. Salvatore's books. There was a fan pic a long time ago that had Cale/Sooba mirroring Drizzt/Guenhwyvar XD It was pretty amusing.

I don't mind it spoofing drizzt. But when you try to do character development don't dip into his so hard. Its just not good for the comic's health to imitate it so closely.

EDIT: You got a link to that? sounds amusing.

Dipping into it too hard? Cale just did something that went against all of his ideals. He knowingly killed (what he thought to be) an innocent child "For the greater good". That would make anyone moody. I don't think they're pulling completely from R.A. Salvatore's character.

As for the fan art, I'll look and see if it's in this most recent fan art forum, but I think it wasn't put back up after they remade it (the thread that is).

but ... but ... i wanna know whats in the hole!!!!

Thanks for checking. And after debating this issue with a friend of mine, I've come to decide I'm bitching a hair too early. We'll see what the next three or four comics hold before I bitch further.

Is there anybody in there?
Just nod if you can hear me.
Is there anyone home?

Come on, now.
I hear youre feeling down.
Well I can ease your pain,
Get you on your feet again.

Relax.
I need some information first.
Just the basic facts:
Can you show me where it hurts?

There is no pain, you are receding.
A distant ships smoke on the horizon.
You are only coming through in waves.
Your lips move but I cant hear what youre sayin.

I can't decide whether this makes me think of Pella or Richard 'comforting' Cale more. It does for some reason keep popping up in me headmeats everytime I think about that second-to-last panel.

Aww, I like that.

It fits, it really does.

'Cept for the hallucination parts, but then again, who knows?

No! It was Cale's unrelenting innocence that attracted me to him! My obssessive behavior needs a pure outlet!! I must have someone who is dyfunctionally willing to succumb to my strings of torture...