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Tobrian
You know, I've been amused by the name "Cale'Anon' for some time now, because that suffix... "anon"? For a character who seems to suffer from amnesia about his past? The Anonymous Hero? Cute. happy.gif

But today I wondered if "Cale" was also a pun or "talking name".

Usually I use VeddingVendors.com, the Dictionary of Baby Names, Meanings and Origins to check a name for its meaning, or if I want to put some hidden meaning in the names of NPCs for my D&D group. (I used to have a big printed Marriam-Webster English Dictionary for that, with numerous appendices which contained Biblical and English names and surnames and their meaning, but someone borrowed it and and lost it and never game it back... *looks pointedly at her own mother*) But thanks to the wonders of the Internet, let's see what various sources have to say:

Dictionary of Baby Names, Meanings and Origins

QUOTE
Name Search: Cale
Origin: English · Male
Meaning: Bold.
Surname derived from Charles.

Name Search: Charles
Origin: German · Male [note by me: the German version of this name is Karl]
Meaning: Man, strong.

A good solid name for a fighter.


Now then, there's also a little trick, if you type in "What's in a name?" into Google, it will take you to a somewhat weird site, "Kabalarian Philosophy". Let's ignore their new-age mysticism crap about ancient secrets of numerology etc.
Name Analysis - Meaning of your Name
QUOTE
Your First Name of: Cale

* Although the name Cale creates the urge to be reliable and responsible, we emphasize that it frustrates you through a scattered and emotional nature.

* This name, when combined with the last name, can frustrate happiness, contentment, and success, as well as cause health weaknesses in the liver, bloodstream, and through worry and mental tension.

* As Cale, you have a natural interest in the welfare of your fellow man, and a desire to help and serve others in a humanitarian way.

* You are responsible and generous, although somewhat scattering and disorganized at times.

* Any jobs requiring systematic and conscientious effort, or involving any form of drudgery, dismay you.

* In your work, you would seek a position offering self-expression through contact with people, such as sales or teaching, or a position giving scope to your creative, artistic talents.

* You are good-natured and likeable, and people tend to confide in you and seek your advice in personal problems.

* Others sense your sincere interest and desire to help, and you can always be counted on to see the bright side of any problem.

Your full name creates the overall conditions in your life as well as your destiny.


Which is, frankly, a bit eerie for a coincidence (or is it?), because it fits Cale uncannily well. The only explanation I can find is that Sohmer and Lar, while trying to come up with names for their protagonist, did the What's In A Name trick, too. huh.gif Although so far I haven't found a search function on that website that does the trick the other way around, spitting out a name if you enter personality traits.
Lunaya
That is pretty interesting. Hehe, I wonder what you'd get if you typed in "Richard".

Edit: Ooh, I went ahead and typed in Richard's name. Here's what it said. The especially funny parts are italicized.

Quote: "While the name Richard creates the urge to be creative, independent and original, we point out that it limits self-expression and friendly congeniality with a tendency to be moody.

This name, when combined with the last name, can frustrate happiness, contentment, and success, as well as cause health weaknesses heart, lungs, bronchial area, and tension or accidents to the head.

You prefer to be alone with your own thoughts, rather than in the company of others.

When you are required to express yourself in personal matters requiring finesse and diplomacy, you feel awkward and embarrassed.

Although you realize perfectly well what is expected of you, you are unable to find the right words, and hence you end up saying something inappropriate in a candid way."


Scary, huh?
Bibby
Wow...that is very interesting...
NE_have_rabies
QUOTE (Lunaya @ Oct 24 2007, 10:36 PM) *
That is pretty interesting. Hehe, I wonder what you'd get if you typed in "Richard".

Edit: Ooh, I went ahead and typed in Richard's name. Here's what it said. The especially funny parts are italicized.

Quote: "While the name Richard creates the urge to be creative, independent and original, we point out that it limits self-expression and friendly congeniality with a tendency to be moody.

This name, when combined with the last name, can frustrate happiness, contentment, and success, as well as cause health weaknesses heart, lungs, bronchial area, and tension or accidents to the head.

You prefer to be alone with your own thoughts, rather than in the company of others.

When you are required to express yourself in personal matters requiring finesse and diplomacy, you feel awkward and embarrassed.

Although you realize perfectly well what is expected of you, you are unable to find the right words, and hence you end up saying something inappropriate in a candid way."


Scary, huh?

*kek*

Fits him almost to a T XD
kantomesimura
All I know is that when I've created characters before, I've looked up the names I'd given them out of boredom and found myself startled by how dead on most of them are. It's very weird...
Kerrah
I hate when my friends typo him as Kael.

You know, because of the Warcraft character, Prince Kael'thas.
NE_have_rabies
You mean, Prince Imakeyouwatchthisstupidcinematiceverytimeyoucometokillmeandthere'snothingyoucandoaboutit Kael'Thas? :-o
Frosti
That kid?
NE_have_rabies
*kek*

Wow, I forgot about that movie! :-o kekekeke n_n
Lunaya
Okay, here's Tavor's. Dangit, Tobrian! Look what you started.

Quote: "Although the name Tavor creates an interest in the deeper aspects of life, we emphasize that it limits your versatility and scope, tuning you to technical details.

The name of Tavor creates a quiet, systematic, and technical nature and a clever, inventive mind, attentive to detail.

You are inclined to be quiet, reserved, patient, and conservative, preferring to test and prove everything to your own satisfaction before committing yourself.

You like to finish what you start without interruptions, and also to have everything in its place and properly organized."

laugh.gif
MantaLord
Pella:

Although the name Pella creates the urge to be reliable and responsible, we emphasize that it causes a blunt expression that alienates others.

This name, when combined with the last name, can frustrate happiness, contentment, and success, as well as cause health weaknesses through worry, mental tension, and tension or accidents to the head.

Your name of Pella has created a practical, responsible, stable nature, and you desire to direct the efforts of others rather than to take order or ask permission.

You have a determined, self-reliant, capable nature and resent any interference, although in your desire to help you are inclined to become involved in the lives and decisions of other people.

You like to make your own decisions and to be the master of your domain.

You feel a limitation in your own expression when it is necessary to reach another through tact and understanding.

Hmmm... It seems to fit pretty well.
Super Gamer 117
It is true that she doesn't like to follow orders.
Yakumo
I think it is more likely coincidence, or another meaning anyway (which I won't speculate on, b/c the one I think it could be would just be bad).

BUT, if we're going to do this, consider the full name. Cale/Charles= bold, male, strong.

Per dictionary.com, anon means:

1. in a short time; soon.
2. at another time.
3. Archaic. at once; immediately.

Though I don't think anyone would argue that Cale is not bold, for fun, ignore bold in Cale and the third definition of anon. Throw out strong for the moment. That leaves "male in a short time/at another time." tongue.gif

A little more seriously, strong in the place of male would work too.
Rip Van Ishmael
And now for some Tim:

Although the name Tim creates idealism and the urge to help others, we emphasize that it causes a superior, interfering expression whose favorite expression is "I know." This name, when combined with the last name, can frustrate happiness, contentment, and success, as well as cause health weaknesses in the nervous system, worry, and mental tension.

Your name of Tim gives you a very responsible, stable nature.

Your calmness of mind enables you to analyze objectively, and to make decisions quickly, making it possible for you to do well in business or in any professional capacity.

Because of your serious, self-possessed nature you can appear domineering and forceful to others.

You have a strong humanitarian nature and many times you are called upon to assist others with their problems.


Some of it doesn't quite fit, but it can be safely assumed this wasn't designed for someone who's been hit in the head with a mace one too many times.
Lunaya
Weird. I tried to type in "Sooba" but they claim to have no record of the name. Yet, they have "Tavor" on record? huh.gif
Rip Van Ishmael
Yea, that was the first one I tried. Has anyone done Benny yet?
Lunaya
Benny:

Quote: "Although the name Benny creates an active mind and a restless urge to explore new ideas, we emphasize that it causes a superior, interfering expression whose favorite expression is "I know." This name, when combined with the last name, can frustrate happiness, contentment, and success, as well as cause health weaknesses in the solar plexus, worry, and mental tension.

As Benny you seek change, travel, new opportunities, and new challenges.

Your active, restless nature demands action and you dislike system and monotony.

As you are versatile and capable, you could do any job well, although you would not like to do menial tasks.

Having considerable vision, you could be adept at formulating new, more effective ways of doing things.

You could organize the work of others, though in your impatience to see the job done efficiently, you would likely step right in and do it yourself.

You could work well in sales and promotion, and would not be afraid to risk a gamble as the name gives you much self-confidence."
Rip Van Ishmael
I notice alot of these are the same things over again.
Yakumo
QUOTE (Lunaya @ Oct 25 2007, 11:36 PM) *
You could organize the work of others, though in your impatience to see the job done efficiently, you would likely step right in and do it yourself.


Actually, I don't see most of that applying to our Benny.

While she does get restless without something to do, I haven't seen anything to suggest that she dislikes systems. As for monotony, well, who wouldn't get tired once you call it montony.

Not that she's without vision, but when she does point out something helpful, it's more from the practical standpoint.

The above quote I really don't think applies. Again, she hates it when she has nothing to do, but she really someone who feels the need to do other's work (the opposite in fact). Also, if anyone's an organizer, it's Krunch. Not to say she can't, she just doesn't seem to try.
Frozen_Sun
O_o this is spooooky. psst. someone check David. For the hell of it. then go do Hctib.
Mikaelf
creepy....
Tobrian
QUOTE (Rip Van Ishmael @ Oct 26 2007, 01:50 AM) *
I notice alot of these are the same things over again.


They're using a numerology system to analyse names, I think. That's why certain phrases pop up over and over... it's like a magic 8-ball. Look at horoscopes, made from stock phrases, we usually pick what seems to fit and disregard the rest. I typed in "Benny" too, but it didn't really fit, I admit.

Mostly, I posted the bit about Cale because I stumbled over it and it amused me. biggrin.gif Seeing how Cale is the character with the big fat DESTINY FOR RENT sign pinned to his forehead, it's cute that even numerology supports this. (Disclaimer: No, I don't believe in numerology myself.)
Dro
Why not type in her real name? Benn'Joon
Dro
Oh well, I went for it:
Benn:
Although the name Benn causes an active mind and a restless urge to explore new ideas, we emphasize that it causes a materialistic approach that frustrates higher humanitarian qualities.

This name, when combined with the last name, can frustrate happiness, contentment, and success, as well as cause health weaknesses in the solar plexus and reproductive organs.

The name of Benn brings opportunities for success in business and financial accumulation.

It fires you with ambition and promotional ideas, ideas that are original, progressive, and large-scale.

With this name, success to you is a foregone conclusion, for you cannot conceive any reason for not reaching all your goals, as you have self-sufficiency, supreme confidence, boundless energy, and enthusiasm.

As long as you have a sense of freedom from monotony and drudgery, and can see progress being made, you feel buoyant and optimistic.

However, obstacles and frustration can give rise to feelings of impatience, intolerance, and depression.

The ever-present desire to progress does not allow you proper relaxation or the proper expression of the softer feminine qualities of sympathy, encouragement, and affection.

Others see you as rather shrewd and calculating.


Joon:
Although the name Joon creates the urge to be self-expressive and artistic, we emphasize that it causes an emotional intensity that is difficult to control.

This name, when combined with the last name, can frustrate happiness, contentment, and success, as well as cause health weaknesses in the liver, bloodstream, and nervous system.

Your name of Joon has given you a generous nature.

You will do your utmost to help others in need, despite inconvenience or even hardship to yourself.

You are affectionate, and respond quickly to appreciation.

As a child you were expressive.

An imaginative, impressionable person, you could excel in the theatre as a dramatist or comedienne, and the enjoyment and appreciation of your audience would be your greatest inspiration.



Meh
Yakumo
I've seen "Benn'Joon" or variants in a few posts now.

Where are people getting this?
Dro
I don't remember where in the comic, but if you check out the extras page there is a poster of Benny named Benn'Joon: http://lfgcomic.com/extras.php
Veband
Richard:
Gender: Masculine

Usage: English, French, German, Czech

Pronounced: RICH-ard (English), ree-SHAR (French), RIKH-ahrt (German) [key]
Means "brave power", derived from the Germanic elements ric "power, rule" and hard "brave, hardy". The Normans introduced this name to Britain. It was borne by three kings of England including Richard the Lionheart, leader of the Third Crusade in the 12th century. Two German opera composers, Richard Wagner and Richard Strauss, have also had this name.

From another site:

Old German "hardy ruler".

A large number of surnames are derived from Richard; only a representative selection are shown.

In old documents in Latin, Richard was represented by Ricardus or Richardus, with appropriate case endings; a number of abbreviations were also found, notably: Ric, Richdus and Ricus.

suprising......Brave Power Hardy Ruler.....well...he ''rules'' a small village up the coast
Veband
Richard:
Gender: Masculine

Usage: English, French, German, Czech

Pronounced: RICH-ard (English), ree-SHAR (French), RIKH-ahrt (German) [key]
Means "brave power", derived from the Germanic elements ric "power, rule" and hard "brave, hardy". The Normans introduced this name to Britain. It was borne by three kings of England including Richard the Lionheart, leader of the Third Crusade in the 12th century. Two German opera composers, Richard Wagner and Richard Strauss, have also had this name.

From another site:

Old German "hardy ruler".

A large number of surnames are derived from Richard; only a representative selection are shown.

In old documents in Latin, Richard was represented by Ricardus or Richardus, with appropriate case endings; a number of abbreviations were also found, notably: Ric, Richdus and Ricus.

suprising......Brave Power Hardy Ruler.....well...he ''rules'' a small village up the coast
The gF
QUOTE (Dro @ Oct 26 2007, 02:44 PM) *
I don't remember where in the comic, but if you check out the extras page there is a poster of Benny named Benn'Joon: http://lfgcomic.com/extras.php

... Benny looks kinda creepy in that one. o.O; Her face is all messed up.
Rip Van Ishmael
Face?

Oh, right. Face. Yea....
The gF
Yeah! The right half of her face looks...

Well, kinda like you might expect Richard's to, except yellow-green.
Rip Van Ishmael
*looks up* Sorry, what?
Grym
blink.gif Did you know Tavor's name is the same as a type of assault rifle?
Rip Van Ishmael
That is awesome.
Grym
*chuckle* Lunaya's obsessed with an assault rifle
Lunaya
Actually, I looked up Tavor's name here.

Apparently, the name "Tavor" is Hebrew in origin and means "Misfortune" or "Broken". Explains a few things. sad.gif

On the bright side, that means he's of Jewish descent just like me. ^^
nothingbroken
QUOTE(Tobrian @ Oct 25 2007, 05:25 AM) [snapback]105811[/snapback]
You know, I've been amused by the name "Cale'Anon' for some time now, because that suffix... "anon"? For a character who seems to suffer from amnesia about his past? The Anonymous Hero? Cute. happy.gif


QUOTE(Lunaya @ Dec 10 2007, 10:35 PM) [snapback]133442[/snapback]
Actually, I looked up Tavor's name here.

Apparently, the name "Tavor" is Hebrew in origin and means "Misfortune" or "Broken". Explains a few things. sad.gif

On the bright side, that means he's of Jewish descent just like me. ^^



I never realized how well Cale and Tavor's names suit them! I would never have thought to look up the meanings like that. ohmy.gif

Obviously a lot of thought went into choosing the names for them to be so perfect for summing up the characters in just a couple of words.

Tavor's name is especially appropriate. Poor guy. sad.gif

princessmagpie


I read somewhere that the name Cale is of a related etymology to 'Charles' or 'Charlie.' According to one source, Charles means 'manly.'
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