TheGrubz
Sep 27 2007, 07:43 PM
On my normal patrols through the Interwebs, I came across
this site. In it are the details of just about every apocalypse one could think of. From Asteriod Impacts to Zombie outbreaks. Actually it give some pretty logical explanations for some of these worst case scenarios(except the zombies, those bastards defy everything).
spyderjaxon
Sep 27 2007, 07:52 PM
Spyder- It is pretty informative though I'll look over it more thoroughly later. End of the world stuff doesn't bother me though. If an event is truly so cataclysmic as to end the world, nothing I can do will change it, thus a pointless, and theoretical, worry. However, they do reinforce my view to get some colonies going off this planet. If Earth is destroyed by any one of the numerous theories, humanity will survive.
TE_evilweasel
Sep 27 2007, 07:54 PM
hmm my bad i thought it had already ended

still sometimes its funny to think of what will kill us off
TheGrubz
Sep 27 2007, 07:54 PM
Yea, but how are we gonna build a self-suffficient colony on the moon? Gotta get air from somewhere.
spyderjaxon
Sep 27 2007, 08:03 PM
Spyder- Details... Supposing we got a viable station built and thriving it should be relatively self-sustaining. Of course it would be a large and expensive project. Hydoponics would be neccessary, plant life would need to be established. Systems for drawing the elements of atmosphere that the plants could not provide and combining them would need to be designed. It would be neccessary to establish gravity through some method or the other, though the only reliable one at the moment is spin. I am certain there are issues I've overlooked. But all in all it is worth it to know we no longer rely on just one place for our species survival.
The Fork of Truth
Sep 27 2007, 08:05 PM
I do not see any presence of the "Squirrels playing poker will end the Universe" theory on this site. Basically, if a group of squirrels ever get together to play poker, the universe will implode, for it cannot handle the improbability of this impossible event.
So, if you ever see a squirrel reaching for a pack of cards...stop him!
spyderjaxon
Sep 27 2007, 08:11 PM
Spyder- You mean, no improbability drive for me?

I really wanted one of those! Zombies are theoretically possible, when dealing with science. All that is really neccessary is a way to animate braindead bodies. They wouldn't feel pain, so you would have to hack them apart to get them to stop. Of course, lopping off its head should still do the trick. And of course there is always the Rage. Not entirely sure of all the details, but there was that outbreak in Europe where soldiers tore each other apart. Never was fully explained as to whether it was a virus or something in the ground, but the area is routinely burned to prevent a reoccurance.
TheGrubz
Sep 27 2007, 08:17 PM
I just can't wait for the Singularity. Being God is gonna be awesome.
spyderjaxon
Sep 27 2007, 08:25 PM
Spyder- Yes, but in a scant 23 years this will happen? Sounds like a Jetsons prophecy to me. I'm still waiting for my flying car!
TheGrubz
Sep 27 2007, 08:32 PM
Well, technically a helicopter is a flying car but I dunno if I could split hairs on becoming God via computer.
The Fork of Truth
Sep 27 2007, 08:35 PM
Flying cars are easy. All you need is a long run and a ramp. Wheeeeeee!
TheGrubz
Sep 27 2007, 08:37 PM
Truly, the General Lee is an engineering marvel.
Wiseguy
Sep 27 2007, 09:19 PM
Great now im not going to sleep tonigth... *must read*
Grym
Sep 27 2007, 09:23 PM
QUOTE (TheGrubz @ Sep 27 2007, 03:43 PM)

On my normal patrols through the Interwebs, I came across
this site. In it are the details of just about every apocalypse one could think of. From Asteriod Impacts to Zombie outbreaks. Actually it give some pretty logical explanations for some of these worst case scenarios(except the zombies, those bastards defy everything).
Do these scenarios include JJ being un-stickied? Cause that jusst happened.
Lapislazuli
Sep 27 2007, 09:29 PM
You know, what WOULD be hilarious is if the world ended by an accident on a random kid's calculator in class.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y248/sash...ide_by_zero.gif
Wiseguy
Sep 27 2007, 09:39 PM
QUOTE (grym @ Sep 27 2007, 11:23 PM)

Do these scenarios include JJ being un-stickied? Cause that jusst happened.
What no!!?!?
TE_evilweasel
Sep 27 2007, 09:54 PM
anyhow i like to look at existance as a form of nothing now that'll boggle the mind for a sec
MayArya
Sep 27 2007, 10:06 PM
QUOTE (Lapislazuli @ Sep 27 2007, 05:29 PM)

You know, what WOULD be hilarious is if the world ended by an accident on a random kid's calculator in class.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y248/sash...ide_by_zero.gifthe amount of times ive heard my math teacher say "you cant devide by zero" last year made me want to fwoom his head.
that pic made the concept bearable. yay!
MantaLord
Sep 27 2007, 11:11 PM
Nice site. I'm gonna have fun scaring the crap out of my sister... When she studied the Mayans in 6th grade, when she heard they beleived the world would end 2012, she was scared and paranoid for weeks.
Verbose
Sep 28 2007, 01:17 PM
QUOTE (spyderjaxon @ Sep 28 2007, 05:52 AM)

However, they do reinforce my view to get some colonies going off this planet.
Space elevators for the massive win.
Energy "free" space travel? There is much win in this sector.
QUOTE (spyderjaxon @ Sep 28 2007, 06:03 AM)

Hydoponics would be neccessary, plant life would need to be established. Systems for drawing the elements of atmosphere that the plants could not provide and combining them would need to be designed. It would be neccessary to establish gravity through some method or the other, though the only reliable one at the moment is spin. I am certain there are issues I've overlooked. But all in all it is worth it to know we no longer rely on just one place for our species survival.
Are we talking terraforming or a colony, here? There is a difference between the two.
I mean, a colony could probably be most conveniently created pure on some sort of man-made satellite. That way, we have total control and choice in all the parametres. If we're terraforming, we have a lot of problems. A whole bunch. If you were thinking there'd be, maybe, a third of a bunch or a half of a bunch, you would be wrong.
QUOTE (spyderjaxon @ Sep 28 2007, 06:11 AM)

Zombies are theoretically possible, when dealing with science. All that is really neccessary is a way to animate braindead bodies. They wouldn't feel pain, so you would have to hack them apart to get them to stop. Of course, lopping off its head should still do the trick.
Well, not necessarily? Resident Evil posited an unlikely-in-practice-but-theoretically-interesting zombie hypothesis that, contrary to gameplay, wouldn't actually need the input of the head. We need our head because it makes our body work. If we have some other force making it work, why's the head necessary?
TheGrubz
Sep 28 2007, 08:57 PM
QUOTE (Verbose @ Sep 28 2007, 09:17 AM)

Space elevators for the massive win.
The win is strong in this one.
QUOTE (Verbose @ Sep 28 2007, 09:17 AM)

Well, not necessarily? Resident Evil posited an unlikely-in-practice-but-theoretically-interesting zombie hypothesis that, contrary to gameplay, wouldn't actually need the input of the head. We need our head because it makes our body work. If we have some other force making it work, why's the head necessary?
My zombie virus of choice is Solanum. It doesn't actually create life from death, it just alters it into a frenzied, oxygen independant state. Also, I like a zombie that can be taken down with a smack to the head.
TE_evilweasel
Sep 28 2007, 09:04 PM
some zombies would be ok i guess as long as there not the "infect you with a tiny scratch" type the best type is "gets brains eaten and is now a zombie" imo but i guess thats just personal prefrence seeing as it takes a little more to eat a brain than it does to scratch an arm/ leg or w/e
TheGrubz
Sep 28 2007, 09:07 PM
Nah, "infect with a scratch" zombies are good, as long as they're not the "bite and then seconds later you turn into a zombie" type zombie. I hate those RAGE zombies, zombies should be slow, stupid and easily outmaneuvered.
Artemicon
Sep 28 2007, 10:57 PM
Well, dead or alive, your muscles still need coordination in order to move, clumsily, but move. The brain is the nerve network central, without it, no electrical impulses could be launched, and no impulses could be sent from and to the muscles. Leaving the only way for a zombie to exist without a head through magic of some sort.
I preffer scratch/infect zombies, though the "scratch" has to be of considerable size in order to get enough virus or whatever into the victim.
TheGrubz
Sep 30 2007, 03:01 PM
Alright, traits we all want in our zombies:
Needs brain to live (not brrraaaiiinnnsss).
Is slower than the avergae 2-legged kitten.
Dumb as a post.
Slightly more agile than a boulder.
Infects with a bite or something like that.
Takes >24 hours to turn into a zombie after infection.
Unable to communicate with other zombies.
Gonna go see if Zeddepot has any of them in stock.
The Fork of Truth
Sep 30 2007, 07:46 PM
As a Zombologist, Grubz, I expect you own this book:

If not, I strongly suggest you read it to the last detail.
Grym
Sep 30 2007, 09:46 PM
That is his BIBLE
Krazy Pudding
Sep 30 2007, 09:49 PM
Would everybody hate me if I said that we stand no chance against Heat Death?
TE_evilweasel
Sep 30 2007, 10:41 PM
if i knew exactly what heat death was then maybe
anyhow im in the mood for some good zombie movies ( the kind where ppl just like mow the zombies down)
MantaLord
Oct 1 2007, 01:47 AM
The worst kind of Zombie is the Dancing Rapist kind wearing Majora's Mask, am I wrong?
Krazy Pudding
Oct 2 2007, 02:56 AM
For the record Heat Death is when the universe has maximum entropy. Meaning that there is no energy to support life...
spyderjaxon
Oct 2 2007, 12:14 PM
QUOTE (Verbose @ Sep 28 2007, 09:17 AM)

1)Space elevators for the massive win.
Energy "free" space travel? There is much win in this sector.
2)Are we talking terraforming or a colony, here? There is a difference between the two.
I mean, a colony could probably be most conveniently created pure on some sort of man-made satellite. That way, we have total control and choice in all the parametres. If we're terraforming, we have a lot of problems. A whole bunch. If you were thinking there'd be, maybe, a third of a bunch or a half of a bunch, you would be wrong.
3)Well, not necessarily? Resident Evil posited an unlikely-in-practice-but-theoretically-interesting zombie hypothesis that, contrary to gameplay, wouldn't actually need the input of the head. We need our head because it makes our body work. If we have some other force making it work, why's the head necessary?
Spyder- 1)agreed. 2) I actually was refering to stations. While I don't discount terraforming, I don't think we've quite gotten to that level yet. While expensive, stations can be completely controlled, all that is truly needed is the right elements in the right amounts. If we can dive underwater with tanks and envision underwater living environments, a station should be possible. Once it is established, maintenance shouldn't be too hard. 3) What force though? Something would have to direct the muscles to move the body. Assuming you added independant centers of impulse direction in other centers of the body, I suppose it is possible, but zombies would then be hi-tech and pretty damn expensive. Other than this, the best you could possibly hope for is spasms. The virus still fueling the body parts without brain control would just make it twitch reflexsively.
QUOTE
Alright, traits we all want in our zombies:
Needs brain to live (not brrraaaiiinnnsss).
Is slower than the avergae 2-legged kitten.
Dumb as a post.
Slightly more agile than a boulder.
Infects with a bite or something like that.
Takes >24 hours to turn into a zombie after infection.
Unable to communicate with other zombies.
Gonna go see if Zeddepot has any of them in stock.
That would be pretty good for us. Yeah, I can go with that. Trouble is many so-called zombies are not based on the mythos of true zombies but rather on Lovecroft's the living dead, which was some kind of alien virus/species? Only seen some of his work, and that was a while ago. Anyway, the living dead were quick, feral, ate people, infected with bites and were at least cunning if not truly intelligent. Zombies of myth were totaly lacking in intellligence, did not infect no matter how much the damaged you(indeed I don't think they bit or scratched, they just pummeled you to death), were really slow, and since they were animated by magic you have to hack them apart and then burn the pieces to kill it. A really good gaurdian for something, not so good in hunting you down.
Frosti
Oct 2 2007, 02:12 PM
Apparently, Earth will be destroyed right before Christmas 2012. Man, I'm to young to die. An I want my Xmas-presents
Grym
Oct 2 2007, 08:51 PM
It can also be interepereted as the sun opening a gateway to heaven...
Artemicon
Oct 5 2007, 06:59 AM
That's just an optical illusion the sun's light sometimes gives of when you take a snap of it with a camera...
Honestly, what IS it with humans and WANTING a cataclysmic ending? I think it's mostly pride that makes us want that. "were sooo important and invaluable to this universe, we HAVE to go down with fireworks, and pull the rest of the universe with us"
Alien invasion though...now theres something to worry about. Im not talking about your lcassic ufo's or humanoid aliens or zerg.
Seriously, the most likely alien to come to earth could be the most devastating: bacteria or virus.
Both can resist the void of space and then reanimate as soon as conditions allow it, they're also the toughest little buggers known in the living kingdom, as well as being the ones responsible for more deaths than any other living being.
spyderjaxon
Oct 5 2007, 11:24 AM
Spyder- Read the Andromeda Strain by Micheal Crichton. It is a little dry but well worth it, I think. Drama doesn't need to be obvious to have a storyline hold your attention. Simple sum up virus brought to Earth by a group hoping to find something beneficial out there. One of the scoop satellites drop out of orbit early and lands outside a tiny town. When the group sends a recovery team it doesn't report back. An emergency team is then assembled to collect the satellite and find out what happened.
Grym
Oct 5 2007, 01:03 PM
QUOTE (Artemicon @ Oct 5 2007, 02:59 AM)

That's just an optical illusion the sun's light sometimes gives of when you take a snap of it with a camera...
Actually we were discussing the nature of the mayan end of the world...
Artemicon
Oct 5 2007, 10:00 PM
Oh thier astronomical calendar saying the wolrd will end in 2012?...ive heard a bit about it, but not much. I think it has something to do with the sun's rays falling on a particular place in the Chichen-Itzá pyramid...
Krazy Pudding
Oct 6 2007, 02:57 AM
Im pretty sure its just when the Mayans didn't bother to write down the rest of the years after 2012, so there are no Mayan dates after it so people assume that its the end. Pshh. Its all hype.
TE_evilweasel
Oct 6 2007, 03:35 AM
meh even if it was their doom date its not like it will matter that much if it actualy happens
i mean who would be left to care... seriously boo hoo were dead and gone .... another species will evolve if it hasnt already on some other planet somewhere if it can think is a diffrent matter though. so... its not like im going woot @ the end of the world but they always seem to over hype it omg omg omg doom !!!!!!!
MantaLord
Oct 6 2007, 03:37 AM
Ch... Everone knows the Sun's not a gateway to another world. It's the Northern Lights.

Read His Dark Materials.
TE_evilweasel
Oct 6 2007, 03:53 AM
i didnt care for how they ended the series or w/e but ya it was good while it lasted(i sorta read it out of order)
MantaLord
Oct 6 2007, 04:03 AM
Yes... If one read the first and last books after the other you'd find no connection whatsoever, except for one of the protagonists...
Artemicon
Oct 7 2007, 01:54 AM
No idea what that book is....my sci-fi/fantasy literature collection goes only as far as Tolkien, Rowling and a little into Crichton...
I think the most plausible of the doomsday scenarios is nuclear holocaust, or something realted to a WW3 theme.
Giant asteroids and AI are close in 2 and 3rd positions...imao
MantaLord
Oct 7 2007, 04:08 AM
GAH! FANTASY NOOB!
Alrighty. I always imagined that the Earth will end when I choose it to do so. However, as I don't have a girlfriend or a car yet, I will postpone the Destruction a couple of years until I can fufill all of my Porpoises.
Artemicon
Oct 8 2007, 02:27 AM
No im not!! >.< But not many sci-fi books filter down here, i only knew crichton existed when a friend of mine in the us mailed it to me...imagine my surprise when i realised he's the same guy who made jurassic park and ER...i also heard he has a book called the andromeda strain...or something like that.
And you are wrong Manta, you most certainly not control the fate of the universe...its the gophers...THEY'LL DESTROY US ALL!!, DESTROY US ALL!!, DESTROY US ALL!! ...(repeat ad infinitum, and a cookie to anyone who knows where its from)
Grym
Oct 8 2007, 02:30 AM
Billy and mandy.
Artemicon, shouldn't you have gotten a 24 hour ban for the battle of the force thread? Guess jae hasn't gotten the memo
Two: YOU HAVENT READ MICHEAL CRICHTON!!!!! *Forces artemicons eyes open with toothpicks, duct tapes him to chair, and forces to read*
Artemicon
Oct 8 2007, 02:36 AM
Ok 1, it was my first offense, *im new here* and i got a message from Jae warning me about it, didnt really mean it, im just not used to reading the dates, on posts, ill try to avoid necro posting in the future scouts honour (not that i ever was one, but you get the idea)
And i DID read one of crichtons books, State of fear.
PS: why does everyone seem so keen on seeing me banned?

*gives grym a cookie*
MantaLord
Oct 8 2007, 04:04 AM
Oh, don't worry! Only the mods are determined. Happy Trails. ^^
Grym
Oct 8 2007, 05:54 PM
QUOTE (TE_evilweasel @ Oct 5 2007, 11:35 PM)

i mean who would be left to care... seriously boo hoo were dead and gone .... another species will evolve if it hasnt already on some other planet somewhere if it can think is a diffrent matter though. so... its not like im going woot @ the end of the world but they always seem to over hype it omg omg omg doom !!!!!!!
Actually due to the incredible amount of coincidences inherent in life being created here are incredible, sentient life even more so.
QUOTE (MantaLord @ Oct 5 2007, 11:37 PM)

Read His Dark Materials.
I did, and the northern lights has nothing to do with the sun. It is magnetic storms bombarding our atmosphere.
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