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Raganui
Ok, so yea, I decided to see how many people on these forums liked Dungeons and Dragons. I mean it's a fun game and definitely allows you freedom over video games. Most games, you're faced with a wooden door and despite how much you hit it, it stands, even if you launch your most powerful attack at it, say from a rocket launcher, and will only open if you have a key. In Dungeons and Dragons, you just call your fighter to bash it in or your thief to pick the lock or have your mage blow it away with a spell. Now I know that some of the new games are having things you can bash through, but still.

So let me hear your takes on Dungeons and Dragons and what all.


Oh, as an after thought, if any of the people that like DnD also like Warcraft and have free Wensdays, I would like to talk about a campaign that needs some people.
BigDeadMushy
I've enjoyed rolling the bones a few times....or a lot,seeing as how I'm a big RPGeek,it stands to reason.
however,wednesday nites depends on your timezone.MY wednesday nites (GMT+10,eastern australia) are out,due to other geekish pursuits.
anyhoo,D&D is fun,and you forgot that sometimes the door isn't a door,too many times my party has come across a door that's actually a mimic *shudder* at the thought of that damn mimic mucus....yuk.
Raganui
XD Of course, mimics are always great to put sometimes when you have a fighter who's first reaction is break it down.
Lapislazuli
I loved DND, but I've never been to a campaign that I can stay long in. dry.gif

Either the game died or I just don't get along with the other players.
Raganui
Heh, well if you want to try the Warcraft one, just send me a PM and we'll work it out.
Wiseguy
No... no its not DnD. Dnd is dead, and it has been since they invented computer games. It's just a non graphic computer game with little focus on storytelling. I dislike it.
The Lone David
I can't agree with that, I prefer several games to computer games though I don't play table top RPGs, my neerdly pursuit is magic, and I refuse to play online.
Wiseguy
I didn't say computer games where good, just that DnD was like a computer game. I like my rpg:s to have more storytelling.
Raganui
Wiseguy, either you must've had some bad DMs or never played. I know some DMs that make whole worlds that are alive while they DM the campaign. Sure not EVERY character is fleshed out to have a backstory or something and there are a lot of generical NPCs, but you get that with EVERY game.
Lapislazuli
QUOTE (Raganui @ Sep 18 2007, 06:14 PM) *
Wiseguy, either you must've had some bad DMs or never played. I know some DMs that make whole worlds that are alive while they DM the campaign. Sure not EVERY character is fleshed out to have a backstory or something and there are a lot of generical NPCs, but you get that with EVERY game.


Storyline and backgrounds are very important to me when it comes to gameplay. A session that I've been to a year back, I didn't really like it because every characters' backstory seem to involve deaths or massacre of the character's family/tribe/etc dry.gif And, every character seems to be cynical and skeptic about each other, it's not even fun. (That's the reason why I couldn't get along with the players. Everytime I play, I'm treated like I'm on trial or something. I know it's for the theatrics, but still! Just because my character's a rogue...)

The latest one I went to this summer, though, was great, but the DM had to quit on the game because he decided that real world is more fun than DND tongue.gif
Murk42
I am considering trying it......
Guru
I've loved it since 5th grade. Thank God for having nothing to do on Saturday
squidthingy
D&D may be one of the best things ever and one of the best places to find great origional (interactive even) storytelling
Cerberus
Sadly I have only gotten to participate in one campaign. It was much fun though. I hope to do it again soon. I will always look back with fondness on my first DnD character: Grekk the Hobgoblin fighter.
Guh?
I prefer to not be burdened with a social stigma.
MantaLord
sigh... DnD. We have it, but I've never got to play it once. My family's to lazy/don't want to, and my friends always say "ZOMGITSTEHSATANIC!" I've read guide books and everything but...

I also played a free week trial of DnD Online. It rocked.
Raganui
I look back at the first hobgoblin I've ever faced and smile as I remember my lance ripping it's head from it's shoulders from my mounted charge. I think that group agreed later, after more battles, that when my character did a mounted charge, something died.
Cerberus
QUOTE (Raganui @ Sep 18 2007, 08:39 PM) *
I look back at the first hobgoblin I've ever faced and smile as I remember my lance ripping it's head from it's shoulders from my mounted charge. I think that group agreed later, after more battles, that when my character did a mounted charge, something died.

Hobgoblins are a proud people with an ancient heritage.
BigDeadMushy
had one guy who regularly did a mounted charge....he came late into the campaign so he got a beefed up knight type....lizardman on a big triceratops...stuff died.lots of stuff died....many times it was his trike,he was just standing to close to me and another guy with the 'demon-dice' debuff aura.
Jabba
DnD is awesome providing you have a good and all knowing DM/GM, otherwise it becomes lame. Also depending on the system that you use, if your using pure D20 rules or simple D6 the gaming experience is entirely different. D6 is faster yet has less combat (or at least it usually does) where as D20 has more combat but a hell of a lot more rolling so is slower.

i perfer the D20 because it has more freedom. I also LOVE DnD though i currently have no one to play with. I like to DM on occasion but i dont do so very often, because i get bored slowly with it and by the end of a campaign just have this desire to be a character again. That being said i have been told on many occasions that i run the most fun DnD sessions....

...possibly because i choose to create my own scenarios...

...also possibly because last time i hired a dancer for a belly dancing bit. you had to take a note from her loins without her noticing. 15 attmepts it took them, luckily she owed me a favour and didnt mind so much, hell of a lot of fun though biggrin.gif...

...even if i did get slapped twice... tongue.gif who says you cant accidentally slip and grab?

ITS POSSIBLE DAMNIT

though i have to admit the second time was kinda pushing it biggrin.gif
Verbose
QUOTE (Cerberus @ Sep 19 2007, 06:00 PM) *
Hobgoblins are a proud people with an ancient heritage.

No they're not.

It's the biggest problem with most games of this ilk. The villians are out there and exist solely to be killed by the heroes. Nobody else ever does anything.
Dro
Verbose, that aspect depends on the GM/DM.

But my problem with DnD is that it inevitably becomes a Hack 'n Slash. Not strong enough to do a mission? Go kill something.
Raganui
Bah, that's why I like it when you have a creative group. Such as one guy was fighting a minotaur and he wasn't strong enough, so he did a crazy and hit the minotaur with a bag full of alc fires. I nick named the guy Mr. Burns after muttering my annoyance at his survival as he burned down a place that the rest of us were planning on robbing. Just remember, there are ALWAYS more ways to do something instead of the old straight method of hit it till it stops moving.
boredom
QUOTE (Verbose @ Sep 19 2007, 12:40 PM) *
. The villians are out there and exist solely to be killed by the heroes. Nobody else ever does anything.




(Good and bad is too short sighted) in real life both sides are bad and good (war)... more like the cow said about good and evil in lfg.
(keep forgetting his name)
...
still id never played DND so im not sure, seems kinda boring.. from my view..
Jabba
if youve never played it then you HAVE no view ¬¬ its like saying you hate pork without trying it. you wont know till you try. also the raganui your gm is like... well REALLY lax with the rules lol, seriously he shouldnt have let your buddy do that. though i was in a game where a dude cut something off his own face and someone elses simultaneously with a double bladed axe so i guess it doesnt matter.

DnD rules ONLY if your creative and have a good set of friends to play with. heh gotta stop ranting
Krazy Pudding
Plus with table-top rpgs like DnD you don't have to play by the rules all the time if you don't want to. You could make a nuclear missle crisis your basis for a story if you REALLY wanted to. Nukes with Knights? Thats why I think DnD's fun.
Wiseguy
Let me give you a avarage DnD char introduction.

"I have a life-story... when i was little my family was slain by [Insert-race] thus i travel the [insert world or country] searching for [Insert magic item] so that i may finally gain revenge on [Insert-race]"

Its about as good as it gets... that's only my personal experience though.
Jabba
then you were playing with some damn boring people. i have a family and kids in my game, hell i braught a kid along with me once. was interesting making a char sheet for a 5 year old girl half orc. but it was fun.

seriously even the babies are like 5 foot, orcs are BIG.
Krazy Pudding
The only really weird one I played was just me and two friends. The setting was in an office building instead of a dungeon and we used ventilation shafts instead of teleporters and changed the name of all the weapons to a more modern twist. Magic Missle = Rocket Launcher. That was the best DnD experience ever. You have to get creative with it or it gets boring incredibly fast.
BigDeadMushy
QUOTE
its like saying you hate pork without trying it

hehe...green eggs and ham much?

evil campaigns can be fun also.at my gaming club a couple years ago,we had 2 groups playing simultaneous campaigns,one good and one evil.the DMs were working in close consort with each other,and we ran into each other on a few occasions.very fun.
tsroark
DnD is in my opinion the best game i've played. every dm i have played under has been great. full story lines, completely new worlds and social ideas. I like video games but they are lonely. spending friday and saturday night power leveling is fun, but youre all alone.

dont always play by the rules. getting an entire hospital to believe you were cow-tipping in a mine field is the reason you happen to be covered in blood and severely wounded is. . . . ya. while trying to hide the arsenal of government regulated weapons he happens to be carrying in his coat. especially if your character happens to have enough morphing in his system to bring down a very large elephant and he has charisma, intell, and wisdom modifiers of 0. yes, he could throw a bus, but wasn't smart enough to know when he's out of HP.
Raganui
Hehahaha. Oh man. Reminds me of characters I've played. Dumb as a rock, hell he even called armor shiny skin. He called magic sparklies but he could hit things hard. Hell, he spent like half an hour busting down a metal door, then had a fit because he couldn't break the stone check beyond it with his axe. Some sort of magic. And no one on the team could pick locks. It's funny to watch a large Half-Orc throw a tantrum and cry like a little kid because he had done all that work for nothing.
spyderjaxon
QUOTE (Dro @ Sep 19 2007, 09:45 AM) *
Verbose, that aspect depends on the GM/DM.

But my problem with DnD is that it inevitably becomes a Hack 'n Slash. Not strong enough to do a mission? Go kill something.

Spyder- Wouldn't work for you in games I run. I am infamous for running games with time limits. It isn't a video game where you can pause. Though in all honestly I do give the group a set number of times, say three for example, that they can stop in-game time to debate a course of action. However, mostly time flows on, I even have a timer to keep them from having too long to think about what to do with that monster that just showed up and is running at them. The point is if you have a job that you aren't powerful enough for, you won't be able to stop it in time. Bad day for whoever it was you couldn't help. Of course it doesn't happen terribly often. A GM is supposed to take your groups limits in consideration when designing a campaign. Also my groups have damnable imaginations that circurmvent many of my plans to destroy them. It just isn't fair when the boss is killed by surprise, it really isn't. But they often find ways to defeat my plans that have little to do with level or strength.
Grym
I just started (Not RP thread) Role playing (I'm pretty sure it was DnD) For the first time! woo! The DM isn't that great compared to your guys' descriptions, but its still very fun. I played it at the anime club, which manages to have almost no anime at all, and consists mostly of people hanging out having fun doing misc nerdy activities (It should be renamed "Nerd club")

The game (Or at least my part in it) Consisted of me (human monk) falling off mount olympus, into the ocean, and punching a kraken in the eye. Yeah, I had fun.
Raganui
Did you at least call out a pointless attack name while doing it? You know, like "HEAVEN TO EARTH STRIKE! SHATTERING FIST!" or something? Why are Japanese attack names so long and pointless?
Grym
And why do they scream when they're sneak attacking someone? These questions have but one answer. 42.

QUOTE (raganul)
It's funny to watch a large Half-Orc throw a tantrum and cry like a little kid because he had done all that work for nothing.

Thog nail not-nale.
Raganui
Actually, Thog wasn't on my mind when I created this guy. It was a point buy system and I could live with playing a stupid fighter. So I did. He was actually investing most of his points into craft: Armorsmith and Craft: Weaponsmith. He was pretty good at it too.

Sure he couldn't spot stealthy people worth crap, but he was normally with others that did that. Gruul was there to go "BASH!"
Verbose
QUOTE (Jabba @ Sep 20 2007, 05:17 AM) *
if youve never played it then you HAVE no view ¬¬ its like saying you hate pork without trying it. you wont know till you try.

I'm pretty sure I don't like to inhale liquid fecal matter while applying a meat tenderiser to my genitals even though I haven't tried it.

Sometimes, you just can't imagine something as fun.

QUOTE (spyderjaxon @ Sep 20 2007, 10:29 PM) *
Spyder- Wouldn't work for you in games I run. I am infamous for running games with time limits.

...

Also my groups have damnable imaginations that circurmvent many of my plans to destroy them. It just isn't fair when the boss is killed by surprise, it really isn't. But they often find ways to defeat my plans that have little to do with level or strength.

Now that works for me. Of course, I would only rarely play a character who even attempted to complete the quest, so I'm biased towards group failure.

...

The trick is to set a double red herring. You make really obvious a potential way of victory that they'll discount as too obvious, but you set up a less obvious trap behind that.

QUOTE (grym @ Sep 21 2007, 09:57 AM) *
The game (Or at least my part in it) Consisted of me (human monk) falling off mount olympus, into the ocean, and punching a kraken in the eye. Yeah, I had fun.

I assume a grisly death followed.
Raganui
Hopefully he took the kraken out with him.
completelyrandom-for pony
I must say I do enjoy walking up to a very annoying Bugbear and pummeling him into the ground... It fills that little empty place in my heart.
Grym
QUOTE (Verbose @ Sep 22 2007, 02:42 AM) *
I assume a grisly death followed.

QUOTE (Raganui @ Sep 22 2007, 02:03 PM) *
Hopefully he took the kraken out with him.

There were four... 3 of them were smote (Smitten?) by poseiden.
Verbose
I always liked the sound of Smoten.

It's completely wrong in every sense, but it has a certain ring.
Grym
Maybe if we start using it, It'll become slang and then part of our language! After all, todays slang is tomorrows language. Which is why IM speak scares me.
tsroark
oh, IM speak has already integrated itself. people abbreviate stuff all the time. it is very annoying. even my roommate abbreviates sh..stuff.
pentheraphobia
L!]<E ROFLZ i h8 dat tiep /o language
is 5O T/-\ /P ded LOLZ
l!/<e, 9o dy
subikyu
Raganui
I think I'll stick to ENGLISH and not some butchery thank you.
pentheraphobia
what i said was the following:

Like roflz i hate that king of language
it's so retarded lolz
like, go die
shut up before i kill you

now, i meant none of that, but i was just saying it for emphasis
Verbose
QUOTE (grym @ Sep 24 2007, 09:04 AM) *
Maybe if we start using it, It'll become slang and then part of our language! After all, todays slang is tomorrows language. Which is why IM speak scares me.

It doesn't work that way.

Some aspects of IM language have already been incorporated and more will be, but it'll never be a complete shift. Too many people resist it.

Sadly, many of these people spell through as thru and aren't aware of the error.

Still, you Americans can cheer up. You've been systematically undermining the idea of standardised spelling for hundreds of years.

"Donut"? That word means nothing. It should be doughnought - a nought (or zero) made of dough.
Nomadic Warrior
I've posted another topic and thought that this would've been in games area instead...

Question: A bunch of friends and I need something to do during the summer and Dungeons and Dragons popped in our little heads and now the problem is: what do we have to get to start?

I hope somebody can help us! I request detailed stuff we need, links to products online would be nice, and recommendations as to major places to go to in order the buy the stuff physically (like going into a store...).

Pictures of the products would be wonderful too. Thanks if you can help!
MantaLord
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