Death to Butterflies
Aug 23 2007, 04:07 PM
This was brought up by both the people here on this forum and my WoW guildies. It's an interesting topic.
Could Richard be the archmage, before he died, and therefore it was best that he was ko'd and didn't go with them to the castle? As pointed out before, the features we see of the archmage are similar to Richard's, and both are a bit on the unsafely thin side. Could it be true?
Your thoughts.
I r smrt
Aug 23 2007, 04:09 PM
Yarr, that was my theory.
Death to Butterflies
Aug 23 2007, 04:16 PM
QUOTE (I r smrt @ Aug 23 2007, 09:09 AM)

Yarr, that was my theory.
Aye, and a good one.
Scarlet Argent
Aug 23 2007, 04:22 PM
Meh...double existence ftl!
The archmage had no idea there is Richard with the party.
serpentnine
Aug 23 2007, 04:57 PM
Aside from the heavy brows, sunken eyes, and thinness... are they really that similar? We can't tell if Richard has that... receding jawline, after all. Also, the archmage's tattoos are very much different from Richard's.
Finally, the archmage doesn't seem to have any obvious murderous tendencies. Perhaps undeath and a couple centuries could have changed him, but... seems like it'd have to be a very large change, doesn't it?
Takekaze
Aug 23 2007, 05:08 PM
Interesting theory. Reminds me of the "Back to the future" movies.
iloverichard
Aug 23 2007, 05:47 PM
i'm just staying with the thought that the archmage might-- oh, second thought!! what if the archmage is Richard's father?? haha!!!!! i'm assuming Richard is going to go to the castle one time or another, so he might actually murder the archmage in front of the group just for fun!! lol
Kaeldurn
Aug 23 2007, 06:16 PM
QUOTE (Takekaze @ Aug 23 2007, 12:08 PM)

Interesting theory. Reminds me of the "Back to the future" movies.
Only if Richard has to kill 88 peasants per hour to time travel.
iloverichard
Aug 23 2007, 06:19 PM
that wouldn't be a problem for him.
I r smrt
Aug 23 2007, 06:19 PM
QUOTE (Death to Butterflies @ Aug 23 2007, 05:16 PM)

Aye, and a good one.
/flex
Kaeldurn
Aug 23 2007, 06:21 PM
QUOTE (iloverichard @ Aug 23 2007, 01:19 PM)

that wouldn't be a problem for him.
Good point, infact that may be cutting back on killing for him.
Though in all seriousness I doubt Richard is the archmage, i'm sure theres some sort of connection, but I doubt hes Richard's father, or richard himself, or Richard's fruity cousin, Marvin....
Well maybe his cousin..
I r smrt
Aug 23 2007, 06:23 PM
Darn the Archmage, he is nothing like Richard (exept a few said things)
WHEN AND ONLY WHEN the Archmage has Richard sence of humor and love of killing things WILL I BELIVE THE ARCHMAGE IS RICHARD
iloverichard
Aug 23 2007, 06:25 PM
i still think Richard's going to go to the castle and be like
R: oh, look! hi dad.
Archmage: well hello, son! how have you been all these years?
R: *FWOOM* just smashing.
Cale: *twitch*
Krunch: WARLOCK!!
Benny: nice one.
(LOL) like that would ever happen that way...

EDIT: i must agree with you, I r smart. you really r smart.
Melfina-chan
Aug 23 2007, 06:46 PM
QUOTE (Kaeldurn @ Aug 23 2007, 11:16 AM)

Only if Richard has to kill 88 peasants per hour to time travel.
Haha, nice.
iloverichard
Aug 23 2007, 06:56 PM
like i said, i don't think it would be a problem. he would be pooped at the end of the day, tho.
Kaeldurn
Aug 23 2007, 07:00 PM
QUOTE (iloverichard @ Aug 23 2007, 01:56 PM)

like i said, i don't think it would be a problem. he would be pooped at the end of the day, tho.
Doubtful, he just got done killing well over 200 people in that village, and he still had the energy to fix the population.
Also the "88 per hour" is a reference to Back to the future movies, incase you're not catching it.
I r smrt
Aug 23 2007, 07:08 PM
88 kills per hours would be a breeze for Richard.
iloverichard
Aug 23 2007, 07:26 PM
QUOTE (Kaeldurn @ Aug 23 2007, 12:00 PM)

Doubtful, he just got done killing well over 200 people in that village, and he still had the energy to fix the population.
Also the "88 per hour" is a reference to Back to the future movies, incase you're not catching it.
i know

oh, and i noticed that Richard is also left-handed!! just like Lar, eh? silly artist

anyway, i also noticed that the population was about 2,785 people. look closely.
Kaeldurn
Aug 23 2007, 07:28 PM
QUOTE (iloverichard @ Aug 23 2007, 02:26 PM)

i know

oh, and i noticed that Richard is also left-handed!! just like Lar, eh? silly artist

anyway, i also noticed that the population was about 2,785 people. look closely.
and thats probably just a nice brisk warm up for richard..
"2000 a day keeps the Witch Hunters away!"
iloverichard
Aug 23 2007, 07:45 PM
i know lol
Icemagi
Aug 24 2007, 06:29 AM
But Richard isn't a witch, so they would just try to steer clear of him at all costs... most likely definitely their lives.
Then Richard would kill some witches just to spite them.
Frozen_Sun
Aug 26 2007, 06:26 PM
I think the archmage is to old to be Richard.
Death to Butterflies
Aug 27 2007, 03:13 AM
Remember, this is in the past. Richard would have already died, and the Archmage DID call them his 'acquaintences'.
iloverichard
Aug 27 2007, 03:49 AM
nooooooo the archmage is Richard's father!!!! i just know it
Icemagi
Aug 27 2007, 04:29 AM
Well as long as there isn't the "Richard is his own father" time paradox, I'm totally fine with the Archmage being Richard's father.
Although explaining such a bizzare situation would result in a few laughs and *fhwoom*'s.
iloverichard
Aug 27 2007, 04:39 AM
definitely fwoomings. of course, we'd all see a little fwoosh here and there, but yes, mostly fwooming. oh i hope this turns out great!
Kaeldurn
Aug 27 2007, 06:06 AM
QUOTE (Icemagi @ Aug 26 2007, 11:29 PM)

Well as long as there isn't the "Richard is his own father" time paradox, I'm totally fine with the Archmage being Richard's father.
Although explaining such a bizzare situation would result in a few laughs and *fhwoom*'s.
If it involves richard, some form of Burnination and/or Fhwooming will take place.
But as in terms of Past-Nastification of making Richard his own Daddy... uh... Lord I hope not.
Frozen_Sun
Aug 27 2007, 01:27 PM
Gah! Time vortex, closing in, mind racing, can't handel outrageous comments! Ricahrd his own daddy? -head explodes-
sheep
Aug 27 2007, 05:55 PM
yes, it is possible that the archmage is richard's father...
however, it would be cooler if richard is the archmage, and killed himself. i.e. - if richard(future) stumbled across the archmage and killed him (only later to rise again). thus had he never gone back, he never would have killed himself, which means he wouldnt have risen again so that he could kill himself. time paradox 4tw.
it is possible that after rising again, he had no (or limited) memories of his past life (as with the forsaken), and thus wouldnt hesitate to kill some old guy in a robe.
... and it also combines the "how did richard die" thread with this one

...
on a similar train of thought, it could be that the town that richard slaughtered (2 people left) is the same town that he is the mayor of (which gets mentioned in strip #3).
Frozen_Sun
Aug 27 2007, 06:35 PM
QUOTE (sheep @ Aug 27 2007, 01:55 PM)

yes, it is possible that the archmage is richard's father...
however, it would be cooler if he is the archmage, and killed himself. i.e. - if richard(future) stumbled across the archmage and killed him (only later to rise again). thus had he never gone back, he never would have killed himself, which means he wouldnt have risen again so that he could kill himself. time paradox 4tw.
it is possible that after rising again, he had no (or limited) memories of his past life (as with the forsaken), and thus wouldnt hesitate to kill some old guy in a robe.
... and it also combines the "how did richard die" thread with this one

...
on a similar train of thought, it could be that the town that richard slaughtered (2 people left) is the same town that he is the mayor of (which gets mentioned in strip #3).
It seems possible.....I CAN'T WAIT FOR THURSDAY!
Maria
Aug 28 2007, 09:25 AM
QUOTE (iloverichard @ Aug 27 2007, 01:49 PM)

nooooooo the archmage is Richard's father!!!! i just know it


wait how would you know that?
Durinthiam
Aug 28 2007, 09:58 AM
Same eyes, eyebrows, arm movements/poses...
Village....mayor...
It's all so crazy it might be true! We should get a bet on the go
gratock
Aug 28 2007, 07:02 PM
richard could be archmage....
it would expline why he uses ice spells.... mages can, warlocks cant
(he had a change of hearth)
and becuse he is undead he could be like a billion years old... so no problem there
and they do look like each other... yah, richard is the archmage..
i am totaly shure
gratock
Aug 28 2007, 07:02 PM
richard could be archmage....
it would expline why he uses ice spells.... mages can, warlocks cant
(he had a change of hearth)
and becuse he is undead he could be like a billion years old... so no problem there
and they do look like each other... yah, richard is the archmage..
i am totaly shure
Frozen_Sun
Aug 28 2007, 09:06 PM
Im fine with the theory as long as uh, future Richard, is the one who kills the archmage, so he would be killing himself. which would be funny.
Durinthiam
Aug 28 2007, 09:28 PM
QUOTE (Frozen_Sun @ Aug 28 2007, 10:06 PM)

Im fine with the theory as long as uh, future Richard, is the one who kills the archmage, so he would be killing himself. which would be funny.
*FHWOOM*"Wow i never knew suicide would be so much fun"
Frozen_Sun
Aug 28 2007, 09:30 PM
QUOTE (Durinthiam @ Aug 28 2007, 05:28 PM)

*FHWOOM*
"Wow i never knew suicide would be so much fun"

wow, you almost made fall out of my chair! that'd be REAL funny!
Durinthiam
Aug 28 2007, 09:36 PM
Heheh /bow
I do try y'know

There is so much material for Richard its fantastic, best webcomic character ever

Infact i think im going to fire up 3ds max this weekend and make a hi-def model of old Fhwoomer

what about
*FHWOOM*"You know, I have this funny feeling.."
Frozen_Sun
Aug 28 2007, 10:07 PM
QUOTE (Durinthiam @ Aug 28 2007, 05:36 PM)

Heheh /bow
I do try y'know

There is so much material for Richard its fantastic, best webcomic character ever

Infact i think im going to fire up 3ds max this weekend and make a hi-def model of old Fhwoomer

what about
*FHWOOM*"You know, I have this funny feeling.."heh, I like the first one better, but of course, Richard's body language helps a lot too. It'd be hilarious if he kept fhwooming up his dead corpse, just casually light it on fire and then put it out...and that would just keep going on and on, untill something more interesing started to happen, but then again, what could be more interesting then lighting yourself on fire! repeatidly!
Durinthiam
Aug 28 2007, 10:11 PM
QUOTE (Frozen_Sun @ Aug 28 2007, 11:07 PM)

heh, I like the first one better, but of course, Richard's body language helps a lot too. It'd be hilarious if he kept fhwooming up his dead corpse, just casually light it on fire and then put it out...and that would just keep going on and on, untill something more interesing started to happen, but then again, what could be more interesting then lighting yourself on fire! repeatidly!
Setting yourself on fire then jumping out of a moving vehicle to put yourself out, realising that in jumping out of said vehicle you landed on a railway track with a freight train 10 metres from you. THEN repeatedly *FHWOOMING* yourself
picture his body language
*fhwoom*
Hmm, yep definatly something
*fhwoom*
AHAH!...nope, no no its gone
*fwhoom*
Ohhhhh right, yeah thats what it is
*FWHOOM*
cue, big speech
Frozen_Sun
Aug 28 2007, 10:26 PM
QUOTE (Durinthiam @ Aug 28 2007, 06:11 PM)

Setting yourself on fire then jumping out of a moving vehicle to put yourself out, realising that in jumping out of said vehicle you landed on a railway track with a freight train 10 metres from you. THEN repeatedly *FHWOOMING* yourself
picture his body language
*fhwoom*
Hmm, yep definatly something
*fhwoom*
AHAH!...nope, no no its gone
*fwhoom*
Ohhhhh right, yeah thats what it is
*FWHOOM*
cue, big speech

hah ha! perfect! thats is something I could see Richard doing, Cale would be utterly terrified by it though, now thats a memory
I would treasure forever.
Durinthiam
Aug 28 2007, 10:39 PM
"Pinky, you're tears are making my leg itch. Warlock, enough masochism we've got a job to do"
*FHWOOM*
*singing to himself* "cuz suicide is painless.."
*FHWOOM*
Frozen_Sun
Aug 28 2007, 11:00 PM
rofl! I might have to post some fan art now! thats downright funny...
Durinthiam
Aug 28 2007, 11:01 PM
QUOTE (Frozen_Sun @ Aug 29 2007, 12:00 AM)

rofl! I might have to post some fan art now! thats downright funny...
better credit me or i shall have to *FHWOOM* you repeatedly!
Frozen_Sun
Aug 28 2007, 11:02 PM
QUOTE (Durinthiam @ Aug 28 2007, 07:01 PM)

better credit me or i shall have to *FHWOOM* you repeatedly!
will do!
Calidria
Aug 29 2007, 01:19 AM
if Richard is the archmage or related to the archmage I think it would be pretty amusing... Pretty sure the archmage is going to die though either way. If Richard killed the archmage(and it turned out to be himself) that is silly, and warlocks are overpowered.
Grym
Aug 29 2007, 01:56 AM
QUOTE (serpentnine @ Aug 23 2007, 12:57 PM)

Aside from the heavy brows, sunken eyes, and thinness... are they really that similar? We can't tell if Richard has that... receding jawline, after all. Also, the archmage's tattoos are very much different from Richard's.
but you never see richards forehead in the comic. He could have gotten the eyebrow tattoos later on in life (Or death)
sheep
Aug 29 2007, 02:15 AM
QUOTE (Durinthiam @ Aug 28 2007, 09:36 PM)

Infact i think im going to fire up 3ds max this weekend and make a hi-def model of old Fhwoomer

I'm going to be doing it with lightwave, but good luck to you sir.
Richard's Pony
Aug 29 2007, 05:43 AM
I think the archmage is richard in the past, but he will not know it for a while, he will kill himself though
*FWHOOM*
Richard: I slipped, honest!
Darkryu75
Aug 29 2007, 02:12 PM
QUOTE (gratock @ Aug 28 2007, 07:02 PM)

richard could be archmage....
it would expline why he uses ice spells.... mages can, warlocks cant
(he had a change of hearth)
and becuse he is undead he could be like a billion years old... so no problem there
and they do look like each other... yah, richard is the archmage..
i am totaly shure
only in the world of Warcraft? and I don't think that this is the world of warcraft.
Richard has 2 green check marks above his left eye. the arch mage does not, and has 3 green circles ontop of his head. if we could see under Richard's hood it would make it a lot easiar to tell.
Also the keeper of time, stated that 6 will enter and 6 will leave, and that they won't be the same. if tavor kills the archmage I'm sure the guards will kill him..or the group will kill the guards. considering krunch and the dwarf aren't fond of each other, and cale wants to protect his friends that is a posibility. Though I do doubt that the archmage and richard is the same. Richard is the ruler of darkness right? of course he has knowledge of magic. He wouldn't be that great of a ruler in realm of magic not knowing magic now would he?
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