http://sports.aol.com/story/_a/naacp-urges...822131409990013

They should just let the 58 bulldogs that he tortured chew him up. Now THAT would be justice.

"Some have said things to save their own necks," White said. "Michael Vick has received more negative press than if he had killed a human being."

I CALL BS!!!

Its a dog. So he killed some animals. Big whup. I kill animals too.

I don't think we need constant coverage of stuff like that, especially not in places like ESPN, just let it go for a while and focus on the games, it's what people watch the shows for damnit.

Anyone who kills animals is a sicko and a psychopath I hope he dies in the most painful way possible I really do.


/sign for the death penalty of that idiot

Dude, they are animals, not human beings. It may be a tad cruel, but its not deserving of the death penalty. He may need some consequences, but not more then a few months in jail.

We're just furthering his publicity by talking about it anyway.

But regardless people are just too lenient of animal death these days at least let him rot in Jail In England someone who killed a dog was put in jail for 2 years 2x58+Being an idiot=345 years in prison if he dies before he can complete his sentence then other family members will do it for him until completed

That isn't how the system works, and I'm not gonna lie, he's seriously helped by the fact that he's an NFL quarterback.

yep that lucky **^(%^*$^($%^%&$^&$$**&** But I don't watch NFL that much

True, but even so (and I really have no Idea who Mr. Vick is) I think that while animal cruelty should have some (minor) punishments, I do not think that its really worth putting someone in jail for a few years. Animals only have the rights that humans give to them, but honestly I dont think that animals should be given anything resembling human rights. If Mr. Vick had killed 58 humans, t hen you should either lock him up forever or kill him. But he killed DOGS as much as I love dogs, I dont value their lives anywhere near as much as I do human life.

That's true Elf, and that's why Vick's just going to get a slap on the hand and amazing publicity.

I'm almost certain they get caught on purpose.

No, some of them are just so stupid they cant help get caught. And really, do a crime long enough and you will get caught. Statistics prove it.

Of course only a few smart or lucky people have gotten away

Until you drive down a dark road in the backcountry at night, one should refrain from saying that anyone who kills an animal should take a visit to the gallows/lethal injection/the chair.

If Zacarias Moussaoui won't get the death penalty for helping plot 9/11, then I doubt a shitty quarterback is going to get the death penalty for killing a couple of dogs.

The law of numbers state that the chances of you being that smart are lucky are so small as that you are better off not trying to hit them.

what about Jack the Ripper he was a crap Killer it was only in the time he was that he got away if he was in this century he would have been caught on his 1st murder

... Wow.

Jack the Ripper was a very intellegent criminal. I am sure that if he was committing crimes in the modern day, he would have adapted his methods. Hes methods were near flawless for his day and it was only excellent police work and patience for him to make a mistake (which as all humans he did) that caught him.

WRONG

Jack The Ripper was as stupid as they came but it was common for gentlemen in those days to be covered in blood because of the amount of butchers there were and of course the stupidness of the police and the lack of science

They caught Jack the Ripper?

Na they didn't

That's what I thought, anyway, Jack was a brilliant man, evil as hell, but brilliant. And as a point of fact there was a guy who came really close to being a modern day Jack the Ripper, the Green River killer. He was only caught because of Ted Bundy.

Ted Bundy he never helped to catch the green river killer did he? I'm not sure anyway the Green River Killer now he was a great killer Evil,Sadistic and as smart as hell.

He actually wrote to the investigator in charge and told him to come to Miami so he could help.

Oh yeah but he didn't really help he tried to prolong His life before he got electrocuted

No he helped, it was only because of him that they were able to catch the guy.

Wasn't it through DNA that they found sperm in a women's vagina

It was before DNA testing.

yeah but then It was a cold case then a scientific break through came and they were able to find out who the Green river Killer was

All you're doing is derailing this topic, Chaos. Just stop while you're ahead and take it to the jibber jabber thread.

On topic... Vick is going to face a couple months max or nothing at all. NFL = jail free card.

Unfortunately so. And then more people are going to accuse pit bulls of being monstrous atrocities that should be killed. Poor things.

Humans are one of the few creatures capable of having empathy towards a species other than our own. Look how we ignore that blessing.

And all because the cock-bite has the ability to throw a football.

I'd like to see those guys play just as rough without all the padding... and play non-stop for a minimum of 10 minutes.

And maybe throw in a Sumo Wrestler and a Muay Tai expert.

Its called "Rugby"

I was gonna say that

Its true. Rugby is like a really weird version of football.

Rugby is the real sport, football is just for the pussys.

Say that after a 300lb dude slams into you. Even with pads, that hurts.

Only if I have a medic on the spot, being a small Asian kid wont help me in this matter.

Trust me, I've been tackled before. It HURTS precious!

I know it was Rugby. I was purposely hinting towards it. As for having some bulky 300-lb guy tackling you, you only have to sprint a little bit. American football bodies are trained to sprint. If you can stay ahead for about 40 yards at most, and continue at a steady pace for a while, you could easily avoid a confrontation. Football players' bodies aren't meant for long periods of duress.

Blue, I am a small Asian kid as well, so I completely understand.

I don't know. Vick kinda had a point, from what I hear.

It was a good business.


I don't think he's the Tooth Fairy. He won't disappear if we refuse to believe in him.


...yeah, pretty sure they don't just add it together like that.


Just like other humans, amirite? i r so rite.


I call BS on that.

Think about it. If someone is able to do a crime indefinitely without being caught, the statistics won't show it at all. After all, if they aren't caught, the crimes aren't attributed to any one individual.


Eh, he was okay.

Killing hookers, while fun, is hardly a sign of brilliance.


Blessing? What blessing?

Then again, I seem to be lacking this blessing. After all, I only like animals and plants that actively kill other animals/plants. It's why I'm such a people person.

On the pitbulls, I say they should be put down. BUT, why pass up the profit? They'll be just as dead if we fight them all to death in a tournament and then put the last one "to sleep".


I think with ole' Vick, it's more because he can rush with a football. His receivers can't catch, so throwing is no help.




Okay, now this is tiresome.

My cousin plays Gridiron in an amateur capacity. He has also played Rugby and Australian Rules football in a similar capacity. He has only suffered permanent damage from Gridiron.

Why? Well, wearing those pads makes him feel invincible. He runs harder and is a lot more punishing because they are protected. It's resulted in him having some serious finger damage more than anything else. Raebles, I'm sure that some people could outrun a Gridiron player for forty yards but in the game you don't. You run headlong into them. If you get lucky, you pop out on the other side and run as far as you can as fast as you can.

Wearing pads doesn't make them "weak" or "cowards" or anything like that, it simply offers protection from the nature of the game. You don't try to smash through people [all that often] in Rugby because it slows you down. Better by far to slip through unharmed to get the Try.

Triforceelf and Verbose, when did suffering from a dog become far less than a human "being"? Especially you, Triforce. Just because, in your opinion, dogs are "inferior" and "far less important" than humans does not make their suffering trivial.

My god. It shocks me to see that people still believe they're far superior to other species, but at a level like that? "It was just a dog"???

/loses faith in humanity

I don't see Dogs or animals as inferior life forms those who do are sort of like robots

Agreed.

EDIT: Or sadistic serial killers. They always start with other animals when they're younger.

Agreed

In my view animals are inferior to humans, they don't have societies outside of pack units, they don't build shelters, and have not shown higher-order reasoning, and frankly, haven't dominated the planet as we have. However, our superiority doesn't mean we should be cruel to them for pleasure, if you're gonna kill 'em, don't let them die in vain, eat 'em.

We can't smell or hear as good as most animals. I can't see in the infrared spectrum without aid of a tool (and it's still not as good as some animals).

Every species has its bonuses that others do not. Some share a similar pack system (humans and dogs, for instance (that's why a dog is "man's best friend")), others do not need packs to survive.

Actually Animals are better creatures than Humans soooo how are they inferior to humans. They do build shelters for Hibernation you've never seen them have you?

Well, see, they're not better OR worse. Some humans believe in using a judgment system based on what skills they find most useful, which is why they believe they're superior. Others realize that we, humans, are mammals in Kingdom Animaliae. It really depends upon what skill you believe is most important, or if you believe a value judgement system like that should be used at all.

I don't know why people don't get this. By the way, dogs and cats feel the same emotion of agony, pain, misery, and suffering that humans do. In other words, they suffer just as much as we would.


A little comparison I like to make is that if you took a random guy off the street, stripped him and threw him in a cage, starved and beat him regularly, and then threw him in a pit with another person who had undergone the same treatment, they wouldn't stroll up to each other and say "I say, what a nice morning! Would you care for some tea?" They'd probably be so deranged they might even kill each other.

And after about 20-40 fights like that, they'd spend the rest of their life in a mental hospital, deranged beyond the human limit.