Full Version: Richar-Dick
Forgive my lack of knowledge, but I simply don't get it. Why the names are interchangeable, and Richard seems offended? Knowing that LFG is not...inclined to use "bad words" I assume Dick is some name, but my light on the topic ceases here. It doesn't even sound like Richard...it's not like it's Richie or something...
I'm not sure why Dick was ever used for a nickname for the name Richard, but that's how it is here in at least America. I'm sure it was much more common when 'dick' wasn't used as slang for a certain male appendage.
Why was John F. Kennedy's nickname "Jack"? It doesn't really make sense that "Dick" is a shortened version of Richard but I guess that's just his misfortune. 
I personally don't blame Richard for hating the nickname. After all, nobody names themself. For example, given the choice, I wouldn't have picked the name "Jaime" for myself. Hispanic people laugh at me. >_<
I personally don't blame Richard for hating the nickname. After all, nobody names themself. For example, given the choice, I wouldn't have picked the name "Jaime" for myself. Hispanic people laugh at me. >_<
I always felt it was just Richard's attitude of "I can mess with you but you can't mess with me." Typical playground bully attitude type thing there, methinkst.
I do not know why Dick has always been a nickname of Richard because usually nicknames share a similar sound like Rob and Bob or are a shortening of the original name like Andy is to Andrew
Dick shares no common ground to the name Richard yet it has been used as a version of the name for hundreds of years it is very strange...
Dick shares no common ground to the name Richard yet it has been used as a version of the name for hundreds of years it is very strange...
I guess someone had the nickname Rick, hated it, and people thought up a better one to go with Richard, which was hated even more.
Robert -> Bob
Richard -> Dick
It's just one of those stupid American things, like peanut butter.
Richard -> Dick
It's just one of those stupid American things, like peanut butter.
So, Dick is typical nickname for Richard?
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So, Dick is typical nickname for Richard?
Yep :-)
"It's a Dick on a stick!!" (LOL)
i'd much rather have Richard be called "Richie" than "Dick" anyday.
i'd much rather have Richard be called "Richie" than "Dick" anyday.
Richard is the English form of an Old German name, Ricohard. It originally meant “Strong Ruler” from “ric” (ruler) and “hard” (strong).
History:
Richard was brought to England by the Normans. It was in decline until the 18th century, whereupon it rose again in popularity.
Pronunciation: rich-ard, or rick-ard.
Diminutives:
Cornish: Hicca.
English: Diccon, Dick, Dickie, Dickon, Digg, Hick, Higg, Hitch, Hitchcock, Rich, Ritchie, Rick, Rickey, Ricky.
Hawaiian: Lika, Liki.
Spanish: Rico.
It was supposedly because of the rolled "R" in the Normadic language that brought about the secondary "Dick."
History:
Richard was brought to England by the Normans. It was in decline until the 18th century, whereupon it rose again in popularity.
Pronunciation: rich-ard, or rick-ard.
Diminutives:
Cornish: Hicca.
English: Diccon, Dick, Dickie, Dickon, Digg, Hick, Higg, Hitch, Hitchcock, Rich, Ritchie, Rick, Rickey, Ricky.
Hawaiian: Lika, Liki.
Spanish: Rico.
It was supposedly because of the rolled "R" in the Normadic language that brought about the secondary "Dick."
wikipedia much? 
Actually, I hate wikipedia. It angers me with its know-it-all attitude. Makes amateur know-it-alls like me look really bad. I actually picked that up from a baby name site. So HA! Wikipedia that!
wow awsum they really go into detail over baby names now dont they?? that is quite surprising 
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wow awsum they really go into detail over baby names now dont they?? that is quite surprising
I went to a baby name site and looked up my name out of sheer boredom once. I think my name is a bit ill-suited.
Ashley: (Old English) means "From the Ash-tree meadow"
I've never been near an ash tree in my life >.> So how would I have come from a meadow full of them? o_O
well maybe your goal in life is to find this sacred meadow of ashness?? it could be a sign!
still back on topic i wonder if the meaning of "dick" was the same back when it was first used to announce someone with the name Richard as it is today???
hmmmm
still back on topic i wonder if the meaning of "dick" was the same back when it was first used to announce someone with the name Richard as it is today???
hmmmm
I doubt it o_O But then again, I wasn't alive back then, so wouldn't know XD
QUOTE (Scarlet Argent @ Aug 17 2007, 08:31 PM) 
Forgive my lack of knowledge, but I simply don't get it. Why the names are interchangeable, and Richard seems offended? Knowing that LFG is not...inclined to use "bad words" I assume Dick is some name, but my light on the topic ceases here. It doesn't even sound like Richard...it's not like it's Richie or something...
I think Dick was used as an insult cause after Cale calls him Dick, Richards gets this look on his face like he got mad
QUOTE (Kerrah @ Aug 18 2007, 08:33 PM)
Robert -> Bob
Richard -> Dick
It's just one of those stupid American things, like peanut butter.
Richard -> Dick
It's just one of those stupid American things, like peanut butter.
Or William -> Bill
See as an example the character of William "Bill" Riker, first officer aboard the USS Enterprise (the starship from Star Trek, not the real ship).
What makes it even more confusing is that there are American men with the birth name "Dick" (i.e. Dick Cheney), so it exists as a nickname for Richards AND as a separate name of its own.
Well I'm German, I don't have to understand it...As for OMG lewdness and swear-words, I know that US Americans are rather... puritan in that regard, but I didn't put a president and vice-president into office who BOTH have names that are American slang terms for female and male "naughty bits", respectively
, so complaining about a "naughty" name turning up in a webcomic is a bit... how shall I put it? I guess I'm easily amused.QUOTE (NE_have_rabies @ Aug 19 2007, 04:33 PM)
I've never been near an ash tree in my life >.> So how would I have come from a meadow full of them? o_O
A Wizard did it!
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A Wizard did it!
Ha, I guess that's the only plausible explanation :-p
As for us Americans being puritan... Not so much XD Sure, we try to put up that front, but I guess when we have the reputation that we have... I don't know. I know all us lowly citizens think and act alike... with our dirty minds and what not XD
Anyway.... Yeah. The name game can sure get confusing >.< Silly English language.
QUOTE (Fou @ Aug 18 2007, 01:24 PM)
I guess someone had the nickname Rick, hated it, and people thought up a better one to go with Richard, which was hated even more.
Hate to break it to ya, but it's not American. They do it in the U.K., too. And probably Canada and anywhere else a Richard resides, like say...Australia. Discerning the origin is too tedious and inane for me to waste my time with, but I'm pretty sure this is everywhere. In our parents' time, Dick or Rick or Ricky or Richie weren't frowned on as names and were considered moderately "cool". Hell, I grew up with a Richie. He should have been a Dick, as he bullied me in the 7th and 9th grades.
QUOTE (Tobrian @ Aug 20 2007, 12:26 PM)
Or William -> Bill
What makes it even more confusing is that there are American men with the birth name "Dick" (i.e. Dick Cheney), so it exists as a nickname for Richards AND as a separate name of its own. Well I'm German, I don't have to understand it...
What makes it even more confusing is that there are American men with the birth name "Dick" (i.e. Dick Cheney), so it exists as a nickname for Richards AND as a separate name of its own.
Well I'm German, I don't have to understand it...Actually, he was born Richard B. Cheney. Why did you think that was his birthname? It's his generation, methinks. A time when calling someone "Dick" wasn't insulting the Richard.
i still don't see why Dick had to be short for Richard 
i like Rick better 
i like Rick better
QUOTE (iloverichard @ Aug 27 2007, 12:25 AM)
i still don't see why Dick had to be short for Richard i like Rick better
i like Rick better Thats the english language for you, more randomized crap "Just 'cause" than any other language.. evar.
QUOTE (NE_have_rabies @ Aug 17 2007, 11:35 PM)
I'm not sure why Dick was ever used for a nickname for the name Richard,
here's how.
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How did Dick become short for Richard? I could take Rick without raising an eyebrow. I liken it unto tolerating lichen -- ohhh, see what I did there?
We can examine this Dick/Richard thing scientifically, but all it will do is shatter your every confidence in all empirical knowledge. Watch:
Obviously, there's a pattern at work here. The D in Dick didn't come out of nowhere. This isn't some kind of goddamn Moon-D. It's right there at the end of Richard.
So, okay. Step one. Take the last letter of your original name and make it the first letter.
That explains that.
Now what about that K? That, well, that is a Moon-K.
So now our second step is to replace the fourth letter of the original name with a K for no reason at all. Fine.
Therefore, according to the logic of the Richard-to-Dick transformation, Nrik is obviously short for Brian.
We can examine this Dick/Richard thing scientifically, but all it will do is shatter your every confidence in all empirical knowledge. Watch:
Obviously, there's a pattern at work here. The D in Dick didn't come out of nowhere. This isn't some kind of goddamn Moon-D. It's right there at the end of Richard.
So, okay. Step one. Take the last letter of your original name and make it the first letter.
That explains that.
Now what about that K? That, well, that is a Moon-K.
So now our second step is to replace the fourth letter of the original name with a K for no reason at all. Fine.
Therefore, according to the logic of the Richard-to-Dick transformation, Nrik is obviously short for Brian.
thats why.
Makes perfect sense, i vote we wage war on the brittish language. Let's smother it in its sleep.
The English language is messed up because we stole rules and words and sounds from everyone else without picking anything specific. Thus, our 26 letters have like 80 bazillion possible phonetic sounds, our idioms are indecipherable to new speakers, and the F word can be used as all parts of speech.
And Richard becomes Dick.
And Richard becomes Dick.
QUOTE (corpmilenko @ Aug 19 2007, 08:13 PM)
I think Dick was used as an insult cause after Cale calls him Dick, Richards gets this look on his face like he got mad
got mad?
look at page 3 again.. he BURNS Cale into ashes!
Dick is the nickname for Richard, which is why Cale asked "Your name is Richard?" He knew that Dick is the nickname for Richard, and loved it.
The English Language is a result from Hochdeutsch, High Germanic. You can see the language evolve from Beowolf, to Shakespeare, to.. something, to modern day English.
Our letter characters are Roman.
Our numbers are Arabic.
And "Americans" didn't do a damn thing of this. It's all older than America. Sorry.
And as for the nicknames.. they were probably just that. A nickname. Which caught on and became common.
Our letter characters are Roman.
Our numbers are Arabic.
And "Americans" didn't do a damn thing of this. It's all older than America. Sorry.
And as for the nicknames.. they were probably just that. A nickname. Which caught on and became common.
QUOTE (Niliaheilm @ Aug 30 2007, 05:50 PM)
Which caught on and became common.
and then were started to be used as a nickname for a sex organ.
which i find to be very sad -.-
I think Richard honestly likes his name, or else he would have used his last name or something....does he have a last name? Hmm. It could be revealed in the movie.
i'd laugh so hard if it was anywhere near the sounding of "Cypher"... hehehe
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